Poll of the Day > ITT Things wrong with Resident Evil 5.

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- Co-op
- Item management system
- Roided Chris
- Maxwell Sheffield Wesker
- Generic Lab levels

What else?
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Every single level is an escort mission with the worst ai
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Not spooky enough
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BigOlePappy posted...

Roided Chris

Im not certain if its the official reason, but I heard that hes roided in RE5 because (Code Veronica Spoilers) He got his ass beat by wesker in the final act of CV. He was handled like a rag doll so he bulked up to better stand a chance when they meet again.

On topic: bullshit on rails missions.
Also even more QTE than RE4
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Further turning the virus from zombies into weird goo monsters
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It's been a long time since I've played it, but the "level select" style of progression really bothered me, and was the start of Resident Evil's fall. It made the game feel more "arcade-ish" and casual than an actual horror game.

That, and they really toned down the graphic death scenes. I really liked seeing all the different ways you could die in RE4.

Overall, it wasn't a bad game. It was pretty much a copy of RE4. Just with a few bad design choices. And then completely jumping the shark at the end.

Only one jewel puzzle.

it needs more puzzle. I did enjoy the light puzzle where i get to kill my partner by accident.
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Trying to be co-op survival horror
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ZBug_ posted...

BigOlePappy posted...

Roided Chris

Im not certain if its the official reason, but I heard that hes roided in RE5 because (Code Veronica Spoilers) He got his ass beat by wesker in the final act of CV. He was handled like a rag doll so he bulked up to better stand a chance when they meet again.

On topic: bullshit on rails missions.
Also even more QTE than RE4

New Chris is just so much less likable. He looks corny (and I think most of the fanbase reacted the same way.) I don't think it would have been as bad if he always looked roided, but it was too dramatic of a change. He personality is even different and kind of corny as well. RE5 had a lot of corny.
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ZBug_ posted...

BigOlePappy posted...

Roided Chris

Im not certain if its the official reason, but I heard that hes roided in RE5 because (Code Veronica Spoilers) He got his ass beat by wesker in the final act of CV. He was handled like a rag doll so he bulked up to better stand a chance when they meet again.

On topic: bullshit on rails missions.
Also even more QTE than RE4

Possible, but he still gets his ass handed to him in RE5 anytime he goes hand to hand with Wesker.

Making Jill a blond and increasing her boob size for stupid reasons.
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RE4 took things off the rails and shouldve just been a new series. They shouldve just had a game about defeating Umbrella then rebooted it.
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The rushed last levels that looked like sh**

The inventory system, chapter select, infinite ammo, artificial difficulty professional.

Those are my only grievances. I get that the first two are to accommodate the co-op system but it makes it feel less involved than RE4.
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it's a great game with a friend.

By yourself I imagine it's pointless feeling

It's part of the horrible series created by RE4.

They didn't ship Wesker and Jill.
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Spinning elevator segment. Oh God, what a nightmare.
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Pus_N_Pecans posted...

Spinning elevator segment. Oh God, what a nightmare.

holy shit this

Veedrock- posted...

The inventory system, chapter select, infinite ammo, artificial difficulty professional.

Those are my only grievances. I get that the first two are to accommodate the co-op system but it makes it feel less involved than RE4.

How is the ability to replay whatever chapter you want a grievance for you? And the infinite ammo thing?

I agree about the inventory system though.

Pus_N_Pecans posted...

Spinning elevator segment. Oh God, what a nightmare.

I wanna erase that part of the game from my brain.
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The only part of RE5 I disliked was the QTEs.

Also, Battlesuit Jill is super hot!
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Roided chris
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Cruddy_horse posted...

How is the ability to replay whatever chapter you want a grievance for you? And the infinite ammo thing?

The series, even RE4 to a degree, had these big hub maps that required exploration and backtracking to progress. Chapter select turned it into strictly point A to point B sections because they couldn't tie later events back into earlier ones. The ability to just replay any section you want with any equipment leaves you without any sense of progression and connectivity in environment. Lots of areas in the game were throwaway as a result, there's not much that's memorable imo. Additionally you could farm the most lucrative loot chapter to get all the money you want to upgrade your weapons to max on a whim, there's no true sense of progression in power like you had in RE4 where you had to manage your money because it was limited.

I'm a sucker for the old school but I actually like having to replay a whole game to see certain parts of it again. With things like NG+ you can go ahead and cheese the next playthrough with your overpowered stuff if you want, and replaying it lets you optimize your gameplay and discover things you might have missed the first time through. There's some great satisfaction to be had in beating the game a second time in only a fraction of the time it took you before. That second playthrough can be as magical as your first.

Infinite ammo sucks in any game, it just breaks the gameplay. Older RE games about conservation but this mechanic just shits all over that. You can say "oh its optional" but is it really when everyone online uses it anyways and the highest difficulty damn near requires it? Professional difficulty wasn't hard like it should be, they just made it "kill or be killed" because they assumed infinite ammo would be in play. Without chapter select or floating inventories, they could have balanced ammo drops, weapon locations, money gathering, and damage to be a more difficult but still fair like they did in RE4. Again if they really wanted to keep this they could do it for NG+ which would still be locked to the difficulty of that file, so there's no cheesing the harder stuff.

Everything after the first playthrough is lackluster as a result of these. The first playthrough is great because you care about what ammo you find, you care what damage you take, you're progressing the game as intended. Then after you beat it you have free reign over what you play and what you use and you can never recapture that same experience without hard deleting your save file.

So yeah, screw chapter select and floating inventory.
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I loved re5, probably because I played coop with my brothers.

Pus_N_Pecans posted...

Spinning elevator segment. Oh God, what a nightmare.

I legit don't remember that and haven't a clue as to what you're talking about

re5 is the only good resident evil game

it's fun as fuck and looks gorgeous
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Veedrock- posted...

lots of stuff

So basically you don't like that there's things in the game that you can choose to not abuse?

Level select - Just play through the game once and then when you're done start a new file.
farming loot in a chapter - Don't farm the loot in that chapter to make it easy.
infinite ammo - uh...just don't buy the infinite ammo....

Veedrock- posted...

Everything after the first playthrough is lackluster as a result of these. The first playthrough is great because you care about what ammo you find, you care what damage you take, you're progressing the game as intended. Then after you beat it you have free reign over what you play and what you use and you can never recapture that same experience without hard deleting your save file.

So yeah, screw chapter select

And once again, no one is forcing you to take advantage of NG+.
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I played RE5 coop with my best friend, so I had a blast. I never had to experience the Sheva AI, which I hear is pretty awful. I didn't have a problem with the spinning elevator, but the giant infested troll boss using the jeep's miniguns was terrible. Maybe not so bad in normal difficulties, but trying to get S rank on professional was a nightmare.

The two DLC missions were both a lot of fun too. Doing one of them more survival-horror style has a nice change of pace.
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Just got the game. Planning on playing it in VR but I am very easily spooked. I may have to get myself drunk.
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why would re5 spook you
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

And once again, no one is forcing you to take advantage of NG+.

I already addressed this, you can't tell me it's optional when the game is built with it in mind. NG+ in RE4 was optional. It is not in RE5.
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helIy posted...

why would re5 spook you

I dunno I imagine it has spooks
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The fact it more or less paved the way for 6. Yes, I know 4 kinda did that but I still feel like that game is still a survival horror. Call me crazy.
5 way a pure action game. I still like it, but it's got man flaws. And I mean many.

I just realized this topic is about re5 and not re7
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Mead posted...

I just realized this topic is about re5 and not re7

I was gonna say, I don't think Re5 is in VR.

Veedrock- posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

And once again, no one is forcing you to take advantage of NG+.

I already addressed this, you can't tell me it's optional when the game is built with it in mind. NG+ in RE4 was optional. It is not in RE5.

But it is still optional. When you're done with the game for the first time, it's not like it locks you out from ever restarting from scratch.
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WarGreymon77 posted...

It's part of the horrible series created by RE4.

This right here.

@AllstarSniper32 posted...

Veedrock- posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

And once again, no one is forcing you to take advantage of NG+.

I already addressed this, you can't tell me it's optional when the game is built with it in mind. NG+ in RE4 was optional. It is not in RE5.

But it is still optional. When you're done with the game for the first time, it's not like it locks you out from ever restarting from scratch.

You literally cannot start from scratch. You carry over any inventory, cash, and treasure wherever you go; even if you could sell everything (not sure you can sell the tactical vest) and manage to zero it out your money somehow, the shop is still fully unlocked with all weapon upgrades available, whereas on a fresh playthrough your weapon choices and upgrade paths are throttled by your progress.

That's not the player's choice, that's the game's design. That's not optional, it's forced.
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Mead posted...

helIy posted...

why would re5 spook you

I dunno I imagine it has spooks

The lickers were the only scary parts.
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Veedrock- posted...

You literally cannot start from scratch. You carry over any inventory, cash, and treasure wherever you go; even if you could sell everything (not sure you can sell the tactical vest) and manage to zero it out your money somehow, the shop is still fully unlocked with all weapon upgrades available, whereas on a fresh playthrough your weapon choices and upgrade paths are throttled by your progress.

That's not the player's choice, that's the game's design. That's not optional, it's forced.

You can't start a new save?
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

You can't start a new save?

No, the game doesn't have save files.
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Veedrock- posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

You can't start a new save?

No, the game doesn't have save files.

Then how does it even save?
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avatarmight posted...

I played RE5 coop with my best friend, so I had a blast. I never had to experience the Sheva AI, which I hear is pretty awful.

Lets put it this way:

When the most difficult part in the game for me (the first Wesker fight on Professional) is difficult only because your forced AI partner gets one-shot killed less then a minute into the fight (which is 7 minutes long) and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it, then yea the AI sucks.
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Dikitain posted...

avatarmight posted...

I played RE5 coop with my best friend, so I had a blast. I never had to experience the Sheva AI, which I hear is pretty awful.

Lets put it this way:

When the most difficult part in the game for me (the first Wesker fight on Professional) is difficult only because your forced AI partner gets one-shot killed less then a minute into the fight (which is 7 minutes long) and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it, then yea the AI sucks.

The co-op ai is quite terrible. It's really best to play with a buddy.
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Dikitain posted...

ZBug_ posted...

BigOlePappy posted...

Roided Chris

Im not certain if its the official reason, but I heard that hes roided in RE5 because (Code Veronica Spoilers) He got his ass beat by wesker in the final act of CV. He was handled like a rag doll so he bulked up to better stand a chance when they meet again.

On topic: bullshit on rails missions.
Also even more QTE than RE4

Possible, but he still gets his ass handed to him in RE5 anytime he goes hand to hand with Wesker.

Making Jill a blond and increasing her boob size for stupid reasons.

Yep because roids aint enough to get the job done.

Did they have an excuse for blonde Jill? She bleach or something? Lol
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

Veedrock- posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

You can't start a new save?

No, the game doesn't have save files.

Then how does it even save?

It has self overwriting save data.
I mean you could go into the system settings and manually delete the games save data but still.
And as Veedeock said before, being built around level select hurt level DESIGN. So even if you choose not to use level select the levels are still bland, point A to point B. Thats a completely legitimate complaint.
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Snuggletoof posted...

And then completely jumping the shark at the end.

This hinted at it, but I can't believe no one has yet mentioned this:
Punching the boulder. He punches the boulder out of his way, and that works. It's absurd.

SushiSquid posted...

Punching the boulder

One of the greatest moments in gaming.
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ZBug_ posted...

It has self overwriting save data.
I mean you could go into the system settings and manually delete the games save data but still.

It's been years since I played it but I really thought you could just start a new game. If you can't then of course they're right.

ZBug_ posted...

So even if you choose not to use level select the levels are still bland, point A to point B. Thats a completely legitimate complaint.

No it's not. It's a legitimate reason to not like it, but a game having levels that are point A to point B doesn't make a game automatically bad. All games don't have to be open world or free roaming.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

No it's not. It's a legitimate reason to not like it

Thats the same thing that I said. Its a legit complaint.

I didnt say it was bad. I played it co op with my brother enough to collect all the blue medallions and treasures and whatever else was collecable.
Havent played it since tho because it gets old fast imo.
Previous RE games werent open world and they were still known for excellent level design. Although I would not claim the RE4s levels were much better than RE5. They basically were A to B most of the game too.
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I prefer going from point A->B ->C over doing point A->B->A->B like the old games

helIy posted...

re5 is the only good resident evil game

it's fun as fuck and looks gorgeous

how do you so consistently have opinions this terrible?
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