Poll of the Day > i don't know why some streamers get so angry at people giving them advice

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so much so that they gotta make "no backseat gaming" apart of the chat rules....

but let me ask you what's fun about watching someone struggle to do something so obvious when you know the answer but giving it will get you banned from chat?

the stream becomes less enjoyable if they have run into a wall and cannot figure it out on their own despite numerous attempts all failing miserably

yes they can be annoying but if you yourself have spent numerous hours trying to solve one problem that no matter how many attempts it takes you cannot beat it

why make everyone else suffer by watching you flop and fail so you can preserve your ego?
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People like that don't deserve any attention from anyone. Move on to something better.

It's their stream and they're well within their rights to play however they want. If you don't like it, go watch someone else.
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It's Probably because they ant to enjoy their game. They want to make their own discoveries and they don't want the surprise ruined

NightMareBunny posted...

but let me ask you

Nope.
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Tell them how to do it and let yourself be banned, for the greater good. Honestly, doesn't sound like a fun stream, anyway, but might as well let everyone else enjoy it.
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i don't know why people watch others play games instead of playing games
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

i don't know why people watch others play games instead of playing games

It can be fun to see how other people handle games you've already played through (especially for speedruns). Some let's players have really enjoyable or insightful commentary.

Do you understand now?
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It's actually rather rude to give unsolicited advice. If someone asks for help, then by all means, provide them with it, but otherwise, keep your gob shut.
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For me, it's because figuring out what to do is one of the most important aspects of games. Pressing the buttons isn't the goal, it's figuring out what buttons to press. If someone just tells you what to do, you're not really playing the game any more. At least not in its full capacity.
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most people in chat, from my experience, don't really wait to tell you what to do... they just go ahead and tell you, which really can ruin the game for the streamer
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Gamechamp3k posted...

For me, it's because figuring out what to do is one of the most important aspects of games. Pressing the buttons isn't the goal, it's figuring out what buttons to press. If someone just tells you what to do, you're not really playing the game any more. At least not in its full capacity.

Greenfox111 posted...

most people in chat, from my experience, don't really wait to tell you what to do... they just go ahead and tell you, which really can ruin the game for the streamer

Yep.

No one wants to watch somebody just go through the motions of playing a game. You're there watching the streamer to see how they react.
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Watching people struggle and overcoming it on their own is amusing. Watching someone breeze through a game because they're good at it, isn't always better. Blind dark souls runs are always a treat.

https://clips.twitch.tv/FragileResoluteThymeWow

This is one of my favorite clips. Context: at the epilogue of the game, the game itself reviews the player on how well he played.
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NightMareBunny posted...

but let me ask you what's fun about watching someone struggle to do something so obvious when you know the answer but giving it will get you banned from chat?

I don't know, why do you ignore us when we give you advice?
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NightMareBunny posted...

why make everyone else suffer by watching you flop and fail so you can preserve your ego?

This could be said about the person who "has" to back seat game.

Don't like watching someone play a game without backseat gaming? Then go find a streamer who allows it/enjoys it.
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You tend to get pretty mad TC when potders try to give you advice so. . .
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Smarkil posted...

NightMareBunny posted...

but let me ask you what's fun about watching someone struggle to do something so obvious when you know the answer but giving it will get you banned from chat?

I don't know, why do you ignore us when we give you advice?

Lmao

I hate, hate, HATE backseat gamers! Like seriously it is one of my hugest pet peeves. If I ask for advice then fine, please give it to me, but if you ruin a puzzle for me I will be PISSED. I once threw my mom out of my room and spent my allowance on a new lock for my bedroom door because she solved part of a jigsaw puzzle that was sitting on my desk. That was back 20 years ago and I would still do it to this day.

Then again, I don't steam for this very reason. And if I did I would only stream games that I have played before.
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Backseat gaming can be annoying even as someone watching, especially when it's presented like "OMG you don't even know about ____ in this game?" It's fun to watch an interesting person play a game, not fun to watch them be berated or watch someone give them orders
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Dikitain posted...

I hate, hate, HATE backseat gamers! Like seriously it is one of my hugest pet peeves. If I ask for advice then fine, please give it to me, but if you ruin a puzzle for me I will be PISSED. I once threw my mom out of my room and spent my allowance on a new lock for my bedroom door because she solved part of a jigsaw puzzle that was sitting on my desk. That was back 20 years ago and I would still do it to this day.

Being a teenager is one thing--overreacting is what they do, I was a teen myself before--but if you think this is a reasonable reaction as an adult, you really need to reevaluate things.
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Golden Road posted...

Being a teenager is one thing--overreacting is what they do, I was a teen myself before--but if you think this is a reasonable reaction as an adult, you really need to reevaluate things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuUNB4HPlO8
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Dikitain posted...

I once threw my mom out of my room and spent my allowance on a new lock for my bedroom door because she solved part of a jigsaw puzzle that was sitting on my desk. That was back 20 years ago and I would still do it to this day.

Lmao

green dragon posted...

It's Probably because they ant to enjoy their game. They want to make their own discoveries and they don't want the surprise ruined

Pretty much. Even though they're doing so for the entertainment of others, streamers still want to be able to enjoy their own games, and part of that enjoyment is the struggle of figuring things out for themselves. If you're going to ruin that for them by telling them how to play because you don't want to watch them struggle, you probably shouldn't be watching people play games that you already know how to play.
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When streamers are bad, why do you watch?
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

When streamers are bad, why do you watch?

Also that. Watching people suck at a game can sometimes be entertaining, but if that's not what you're looking for (as is obviously the case if you're trying to direct them), just don't watch them.
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adjl posted...

green dragon posted...

It's Probably because they ant to enjoy their game. They want to make their own discoveries and they don't want the surprise ruined

Pretty much. Even though they're doing so for the entertainment of others, streamers still want to be able to enjoy their own games, and part of that enjoyment is the struggle of figuring things out for themselves. If you're going to ruin that for them by telling them how to play because you don't want to watch them struggle, you probably shouldn't be watching people play games that you already know how to play.

I've seen people who don't change that stance even when playing Multiplayer team games

how is that acceptable?
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NightMareBunny posted...

I've seen people who don't change that stance even when playing Multiplayer team games

how is that acceptable?

Because they want to play the game the way they want to play the game, not the way that helps some obnoxious busybody with an inflated sense of self-importance pretend they're being useful. Again, if a streamer isn't playing a game the way you want them to play the game, and that bugs you, you shouldn't watch that stream.
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