Poll of the Day > Anime, Manga, VN, JRPG, Related Things Discussion Topic LXXIX

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Think I should get back to the Shippuuden grind before bed.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

Think I should get back to the Shippuuden grind before bed.

Where are you at? I'm up through 351 now.
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dragon504 posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

Think I should get back to the Shippuuden grind before bed.

Where are you at? I'm up through 351 now.

I made it to 388 before stopping. I think 2 of the filters are going to be about Hinata so I think I'll watch those two at some point.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

dragon504 posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

Think I should get back to the Shippuuden grind before bed.

Where are you at? I'm up through 351 now.

I made it to 388 before stopping. I think 2 of the filters are going to be about Hinata so I think I'll watch those two at some point.

I'm in a filler block right now unfortunately. Paused to watch the second season of Rage of Bahamut.
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Have you been watching all the fillers? I've been skipping them XD. I get annoyed with flashbacks and flashback fillers.

edit: oh, and the ninja war annoyed me way back when I read the manga. It's still annoying....
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

Have you been watching all the fillers? I've been skipping them XD. I get annoyed with flashbacks and flashback fillers.

edit: oh, and the ninja war annoyed me way back when I read the manga. It's still annoying....

Yeah, always watch filler first time through. The war arc lasts too damn long indeed. It'll be a while until I get to see the scene I want to see animated, hopefully I get a good chuckle out of it, like I did from the manga.
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I'm nearing the end of 1-5 in Phoenix Wright. I have to find some way to avoid the imminent Guilty verdict; it's the climax and I'm on my last strike, so my pride as a mystery fan won't let me use a guide. I have to figure this thing out.
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dragon504 posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

Have you been watching all the fillers? I've been skipping them XD. I get annoyed with flashbacks and flashback fillers.

edit: oh, and the ninja war annoyed me way back when I read the manga. It's still annoying....

Yeah, always watch filler first time through. The war arc lasts too damn long indeed. It'll be a while until I get to see the scene I want to see animated, hopefully I get a good chuckle out of it, like I did from the manga.

I never saw that scene when I was watching earlier episodes. I think what you're talking about happens right after the Pain fight. I skipped a lot of fillers then but I swear I saw it animated!
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

dragon504 posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

Have you been watching all the fillers? I've been skipping them XD. I get annoyed with flashbacks and flashback fillers.

edit: oh, and the ninja war annoyed me way back when I read the manga. It's still annoying....

Yeah, always watch filler first time through. The war arc lasts too damn long indeed. It'll be a while until I get to see the scene I want to see animated, hopefully I get a good chuckle out of it, like I did from the manga.

I never saw that scene when I was watching earlier episodes. I think what you're talking about happens right after the Pain fight. I skipped a lot of fillers then but I swear I saw it animated!

It should be in the 4xx range. I recall him using it on goddess lady (kaguya?).
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dragon504 posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

dragon504 posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

Have you been watching all the fillers? I've been skipping them XD. I get annoyed with flashbacks and flashback fillers.

edit: oh, and the ninja war annoyed me way back when I read the manga. It's still annoying....

Yeah, always watch filler first time through. The war arc lasts too damn long indeed. It'll be a while until I get to see the scene I want to see animated, hopefully I get a good chuckle out of it, like I did from the manga.

I never saw that scene when I was watching earlier episodes. I think what you're talking about happens right after the Pain fight. I skipped a lot of fillers then but I swear I saw it animated!

It should be in the 4xx range. I recall him using it on goddess lady (kaguya?).

ohhh ok. I remember that now. I swear he used it on Sakura long before that as well though.
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Just started watching Deadman Wonderland.
Nice story so far. They could definitely use some pizza in the prison though.
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Dawww! tiny Hinata and Hanabi are way too cute!!!
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See? Those are the kinds of filler episodes I like. The ones that tell more about the side characters that usually don't get the chance to shine. I really enjoyed seeing Hinata and Hanabi's story.
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Deadman anime is good, but unfortunately it's one of those shows that's just an advertisement for the source material. The ending is inconclusive as fuck.
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Hazuki (in new game!!) is godlike. What a wonderful human being. May her reign at the company be eternal.

Overall I kinda feel like I liked the first season better so far but I'm only half way through this one. The new character is kinda meh and hifumi have less of a role is annoying. Also their game just kind of doesn't seem good or fun. I've liked the extra focus and development for nene though and they have definitely stepped up their yuri undertone game. Guess I'll just have to see how it progresses.
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Whelp, that was the worst thing I've witnessed in quite some time. The level of loathing I feel towards the writer of new game is indescribable. I don't think I'd watch another season if they made one.
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YoukaiSlayer posted...

Whelp, that was the worst thing I've witnessed in quite some time. The level of loathing I feel towards the writer of new game is indescribable. I don't think I'd watch another season if they made one.

That's a strong statement. I haven't seen the show, but isn't it just a chill SoL series?
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Season 1 is. Season 2 decides to add melodrama to the mix to spice things up and the ends in a way that was not only unnecessary but also incredibly frustrating. I almost let the show get away with the decrease in quality from the first season because they upped the yuri levels but that worked massively to its disadvantage in the end. Not only did it make sure to leave the relationship I care about unresolved, it did it in such a way as to ruin the character for me, so I don't even want the character to be happy anymore.

If the show had a reason to do this, I might be more forgiving, but as you mentioned, it's a chill SoL, that's all I wanted from it. I learned nothing, I gained nothing, I lost everything. I regret watching season 2.
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Damn that sounds rough
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What frustrates me possibly more than that (ok not more than that but still) is that out of the 220ish people that rated the last episode, I'm the only one that gave it a 1/5. Almost everybody else loved it. Season 2 is rated more highly than season 1. This feels like madoka's ending all over again.

At least I've learned from that one. I've done my rage posts, I've vented, I'm just going to try and forget this anime ever happened and move on rather than be sucked into a 3 week argument that causes me to write a novels worth of posts that are probably still chronicled somewhere on the madoka sub forums on MAL. Also going to rule 34 to hopefully sort out some feelings of unresolved yuri and so help me god if artists haven't solved this I'm going to be upset with the whole internet.

This goes on my list of anime, that if I ever somehow get insanely rich, I'm going to try to get the rights to so I can fix the endings. Others on the list include yami to boushi, madoka, katanagatari, gantz (although a brotherhood style re-adaptation is really all it needs), that one yuri show about shrine maidens, and I think a few more I've tried to block out. Hm...most of these are for ruining my yuri. For some reason yuri was not allowed to have a happy ending before sakura trick came out.
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YoukaiSlayer posted...

Also going to rule 34 to hopefully sort out some feelings of unresolved yuri and so help me god if artists haven't solved this I'm going to be upset with the whole internet.

Fortunately the internet gets to live another day. Although it always frustrates me when yuri characters get drawn getting fucked by dudes. Like why? Who is wanting that? Oh well, found a well drawn kiss of the 2 characters so that eases my rage a little a bit.
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What didn't you like about madoka's ending?
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YoukaiSlayer posted...

Like why? Who is wanting that?

Me :)
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FellWolf posted...

Me :)

Damn you bastard. There's plenty of hot non yuri girls to see get fucked. Leave my yuri out of it.
FellWolf posted...

What didn't you like about madoka's ending?

It's honestly hard to remember at this point. Kind of funny since I wrote so much arguing about it. A lot of it had to do with not exploring the limits of wishes. For instance, why doesn't kyuubi get a girl to wish "entropy is solved". Boom. One girl gets sacrificed, universe saved, effort saved. Why?

OH WAIT. I remember what my main frustration was. A writing sin that seems to only bother me. The invalidation of the journey. If the actions the main character took since the beginning were pointless AND we get anything but a perfectly happy ending, I will be frothing at the mouth. That is also why katanagatari is on my list. Main character of madoka was homura btw before that causes confusion.

I also felt that the show did not earn it's sad ending. The powers the main characters had at their disposal (time travel and infinite wishes) are simply too great to conceivably end up with anything but the happiest possible ending. If they had gone through the effort of creating clear and understandable limits or at least showed the characters trying these obvious things it would have been possible to end up with a sad ending that felt earned, but thats not what happened.

Yami to boushi is on my list for basically all of the above and then some. As much as I'm angry at new game right now, I was so much more angry at that show. It does it all. Invalidation of journey, ruining of yuri pairing character, twisting of yuri pairing in a unique way, memory rewrite, all of this, against the source material, and for absolutely no gain.. The rest of yami to boushi was so good and the ending being such an affront to humanity crushed me when I watched that.

Gantz source material is as far as I know, fine. It just had a completely butchered anime original ending.

The shrine maiden one was honestly probably not worth being too upset over. I'm pretty sure the show as a whole was pretty meh so a bad ending isn't really ruining too much.

EDIT: Claymore should also be on my list for the same reason as gantz.
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I understand ya.

I never finished claymore, I don't think I got very far.
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It's been a really long time since I saw claymore but I remember liking it quite a lot until near the end. Even the anime original ending wasn't THAT bad. Like, it was awful, but it wasn't ambitious enough to truly ruin the entire show so maybe it doesn't belong on my list. My list is mostly for shows that I legitimately wish I had not seen. Even a bad show that sucked dick is usually not something that weighs on me. This feeling is reserved almost entirely for shows that I really truly loved, up until the ending, which somehow tainted my memories of the show to a point I regret the whole experience.

That said, I feel like I'm over new game. Season 1 hasn't gone anywhere and thinking about these other shows has perhaps put new game into perspective. While I still think the ending was abysmal, I don't regret watching the show, I'm just that much more determined to make something similar that ends in the way I think is best.

Still, I can't help but think of how much I could have loved new game if they didn't rush the character development so much. I think it would have been fine to leave Aoba in her starting position for another season or 2 so we can really see her grow and earn the position she wants as we see ko settle into her job as AD and eventually get with rin. Perhaps have Aoba become character designer in season 4, and AD in season 5 where ko takes a more backseat role as producer with her would be girlfriend rin. That's a version of New Game I would have cherished.

The more I thought back on season 2 the more it seems like they tried to move the show way too fast and ko was just caught in the crossfire as the characters ran out of room to grow. The addition of new characters just exacerbated that. In the end, these "fuwafuwa" shows are about maintaining that atmosphere and feeling rather than the plot and I feel season 2 threw that out to pursue something more dramatic when that's not at all what I wanted from this series.
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FellWolf posted...

YoukaiSlayer posted...

Like why? Who is wanting that?

Me :)

And I

I don't understand how someone could watch a yuri show and think. "You know what this needs, a fat guy in his 30s putting his penis inside this beautiful romance between 2 girls." It's very clear that 80% of people that draw hentai feel that way, but I don't get it. Just give me fanart of the obvious pairing please.
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In non yuri news (at least as far as I know, I guess theres always hope) I just checked out those gameplay videos for code vein aka anime dark souls and it looks better than I expected for an alpha. One handed sword way too strong though. The boss looked like it would be pretty fun.
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Pretty sure it's just self inserting yourself into that situation is what gets people off
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Self insert as a girl then. It's yuri. The main character still usually exists for that. I'm fairly convinced most artists are not actually 30-50 old tokyo businessmen anyway.
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You're letting fan made hentai affect you way too much.

I understand what you're saying though. But I like both, when the yuri characters are doing yuri things and also when they're doing straight things.

OR!!!!

One one of them is futa so you get both worlds :D And I don't even like futa!!!
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

You're letting fan made hentai affect you way too much.

I understand what you're saying though. But I like both, when the yuri characters are doing yuri things and also when they're doing straight things.

OR!!!!

One one of them is futa so you get both worlds :D And I don't even like futa!!!

Ugh, futa is the worst.
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Jesus; this Bruce Goodman case just keeps going. I thought I was near the end, but apparently there's at least one more round.
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keyblader1985 posted...

Jesus; this Bruce Goodman case just keeps going. I thought I was near the end, but apparently there's at least one more round.

Yeah, the last bonus chapter of AA1 is almost half of the length of the rest of the chapters combined. It's pretty crazy.
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I actually like futa. If ya need to put a dick in the yuri, do it that way. I guess I'm making it seem like I care more than I do. There have actually been times when I've looked up a yuri pairing and found NO yuri results, only straight results, and that is legitimately upsetting, but it's not really a big deal if the yuri results do exist in decent quantity.

All in all it's just kind of painful to be a yuri fan a lot between the infrequent anime and the ridiculous number of tragic endings so it kinda sucks to have to look for closure outside the source material and then be hit with a bunch of non yuri.

One day we will get an actual yuri ecchi harem show and all will be right with the world. If I magically get super rich, alongside "the list" it'd be awesome to open an anime studio that produces exclusively yuri.
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YoukaiSlayer posted...

One day we will get an actual yuri ecchi harem show and all will be right with the world.

This...would be great! And I'm not even a huge yuri fan. For me, the harem route is the only right route!
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I hope I can shed a little light on the New Game! situation here: The reason the anime ends the way it does is that it caught up to the 4-koma on which it was based. Since there was no more material to adapt, they had to stop there (or run the risk of anime-original endings). I still hope for a Season 3, but ... it is unlikely to happen any time soon.

As far as yuri goes, I prefer regular ol' yuri. I have no use for Protag-kunus Interruptus. And there is certainly a niche for futa, but that is not normally my thing. I suppose I am not too angry about New Game! ending the way it does because yuri bait is its own thing, and I know that fanficcers (... like myself) will pick up the slack that the source leaves. *shrugs*
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

For me, the harem route is the only right route!

Hell yeah! Harem route is true route.

We've had some almost yuri ecchi harems. Valkyrie drive is probably the closest but it's not REALLY a harem, it's just a series of pairings. Keijo is sort of close but it's not actually yuri, just the most enjoyable type of yuri bait. Maria holic is basically the entirely perfect set up, lesbian pervert goes to all girls school to perv on girls and find lesbian love BUT her nosebleeds, while funny, entirely prevent any yuri from even approaching possible. Season 3 never. Matsurika best girl.
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Isn't there some Sakura...something that was a yuri thing? I can't remember it's name, I just know when people talk about it, they say,

"Watch for the yuri, stay for the feels."

I guess it hooks people with yuri but is sad or just hits the feels XD

Oh, and I don't mean any of the Sakura games. I'm talking about an anime.
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I_Abibde posted...

I hope I can shed a little light on the New Game! situation here: The reason the anime ends the way it does is that it caught up to the 4-koma on which it was based. Since there was no more material to adapt, they had to stop there (or run the risk of anime-original endings). I still hope for a Season 3, but ... it is unlikely to happen any time soon.

As far as yuri goes, I prefer regular ol' yuri. I have no use for Protag-kunus Interruptus. And there is certainly a niche for futa, but that is not normally my thing. I suppose I am not too angry about New Game! ending the way it does because yuri bait is its own thing, and I know that fanficcers (... like myself) will pick up the slack that the source leaves. *shrugs*

Yeah I'm aware that 64 of 68-69 chapters have been adapted already so it goes on the long list of season 3 never shows. I suppose it's the manga I have the problem with for writing it that way.

For me anyway, to have successful yuri bait, you need to leave the bait intact. The ending damages the yuri bait IMO. Now any real fanfic either takes place way in the future or retcons some shit. With the tone shift, increased fan service and mid season character introductions, I kind of wonder if the manga was in trouble right before the first season of the anime aired.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

"Watch for the yuri, stay for the feels."

This entirely is what worries me. As strange as it might sound. I've had my fill of yuri feels. I want yuri light hearted rom com stuff, preferably with ecchi and at least some level of kissing. Oh wait, you are talking about sakura trick. It's basically the one bastion of good ecchi anime. Some yuri fans say it is fanservicy trash but I say they can go fuck themselves because I loved that show. Minutes of sweet yuri kissing every episode. Demolition d+ had a good bit on it in one of his seasonal preview things that has that gif I can never find with the "lesbian physics" part (gamefaqs won't let me put what it actually was without autoflagging it).
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YoukaiSlayer posted...

Oh wait, you are talking about sakura trick

That's it!

YoukaiSlayer posted...

Some yuri fans say it is fanservicy trash but I say they can go fuck themselves because I loved that show.

Meh, I'll never understand why people are so against fan service. I don't see how that could ever ruin an entire story.
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Sakura trick's fanservice was just kissing anyway. People said that the show was just to show us a bunch of anime girls kissing and had no substance. While I disagree, even if that were true, I'd have been fine with it. IIRC I think I might have actually teared up at one part and the romance is easily the most adorable I can think of in anime.
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Sakura Trick and Kindred Spirits On the Roof are the holy grails of the genre, thus far. And I have absolutely nothing against fan service, of course.

YoukaiSlayer posted...

Now any real fanfic either takes place way in the future or retcons some shit.

*steeples fingers*

With writing, nothing is impossible.
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True, but not seeing ko x rin animated would be a bummer. Granted I've done a fair bit of writing over the last year so I know what ya mean. Sad that none of it is in a usable state but I'ma finish this one dammit.
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I know I don't really like the ninja war arc that I'm on, but this current ending with the Ichiraku Ramen Stand is quickly becoming one of my all time fave endings in Naruto.
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This isn't really anime related or anything but I FINALLY figured out what was making my art tablet fuck up in gimp and fix it (something about the expressview causing major issues). I have nowhere else to talk about this and I've spent like 10 total hours over a few weeks troubleshooting this bullshit problem and it's finally solved and I can finally use pressure sensitivity. Yay.

To make this post somewhat relevant, how is the new season going? First episodes have aired for everything as far as I know. I see this is the season we finally get that new kino to tabi. I'm hoping it lives up to the old stuff since I loved the original series. I would be very surprised if shokugeki no soma S3 wasn't awesome.

I see a series whose title sounds like some inuyasha x shiki crossover fighting game with inuyashiki but apparently its some sci-fi psychological action show. Maybe something like psycho pass. Has good ratings so far, love the genre.

Got some shoujo sci-fi fantasy show. Dang, the season of sci-fi. I'm not complaining.

UQHolder seems to also fall in the same sci-fi theme. I remember someone here talking about the manga and how great it was(something about lolis).

A few more sci-fi shows. Jesus, I was kind of joking at first but there really is a ton of sci-fi this season.

Whats looking good, whats meh, what seems interesting but it's too soon to tell?
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