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Nelson_Mandela
09/28/17 11:27:12 PM
#101:


tazzyboyishere posted...
NBIceman posted...
I'd be arguing against the 1 game playoff even if the Yankees and Twins' records were reversed this year. It's a stupid system.

And you'd still have a bad argument.

Not as bad as a "win the division!" argument which is literally counterintuitive to a wild card in itself
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FFDragon
09/28/17 11:29:53 PM
#102:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Not as bad as a "win the division!" argument which is literally counterintuitive to a wild card in itself


Still say getting something tangible for winning the division and then having a game between the next two best for the opportunity to get the last spot that neither of them earned anyway is in no way counterintuitive.
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Nelson_Mandela
09/28/17 11:30:27 PM
#103:


NBIceman posted...
tazzyboyishere posted...
NBIceman posted...
I'd be arguing against the 1 game playoff even if the Yankees and Twins' records were reversed this year. It's a stupid system.

And you'd still have a bad argument.

I really don't understand why a sport completely built around series is suddenly and arbitrarily reduced to one do-or-die game where one of the teams could easily, as with this year, have a markedly worse record than the other.

Because it's 2017 and people with immature minds think only in terms of instant gratification. Randomness=entertainment to them.

But give me king of the hill over family guy any day!
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tazzyboyishere
09/28/17 11:31:24 PM
#104:


NBIceman posted...
tazzyboyishere posted...
NBIceman posted...
I'd be arguing against the 1 game playoff even if the Yankees and Twins' records were reversed this year. It's a stupid system.

And you'd still have a bad argument.

I really don't understand why a sport completely built around series is suddenly and arbitrarily reduced to one do-or-die game where one of the teams could easily, as with this year, have a markedly worse record than the other.

tazzyboyishere posted...
Because so long as baseball's playoffs are determined through divisional titles, awarding a team that fails to make it through the season in second place should not get the same opportunity as the team that they failed to overtake. If you want to avoid the extra play-in game, just win the division. I don't really get the argument that teams who've failed to be better shouldn't receive any type of conflict, and should be held on the same pedestal as direct competition that was better.


I mean, if you wanted to argue that the WC teams should have a best of 3 or something, I could get behind that. I know a lot of other supporters say it's more thrilling this way, but I think settling a 1-1 tie is more exciting than a single game. Sure it makes things longer, but I like baseball enough to have it extend 2-3 days.
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NBIceman
09/28/17 11:33:40 PM
#105:


tazzyboyishere posted...
NBIceman posted...
tazzyboyishere posted...
NBIceman posted...
I'd be arguing against the 1 game playoff even if the Yankees and Twins' records were reversed this year. It's a stupid system.

And you'd still have a bad argument.

I really don't understand why a sport completely built around series is suddenly and arbitrarily reduced to one do-or-die game where one of the teams could easily, as with this year, have a markedly worse record than the other.

tazzyboyishere posted...
Because so long as baseball's playoffs are determined through divisional titles, awarding a team that fails to make it through the season in second place should not get the same opportunity as the team that they failed to overtake. If you want to avoid the extra play-in game, just win the division. I don't really get the argument that teams who've failed to be better shouldn't receive any type of conflict, and should be held on the same pedestal as direct competition that was better.


I mean, if you wanted to argue that the WC teams should have a best of 3 or something, I could get behind that. I know a lot of other supporters say it's more thrilling this way, but I think settling a 1-1 tie is more exciting than a single game. Sure it makes things longer, but I like baseball enough to have it extend 2-3 days.

Yeah, that's the exact direction I want to go. I like the WC1/WC2 system, I just think the single game is too random to be a good decider, especially since it's such a drastic difference to the rest of the 162-game season.
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FFDragon
09/28/17 11:34:07 PM
#106:


I mean, the purest of purest ways would be to have no leagues, no divisions, every team plays 6 games against every other team (3 home, 3 away) and whoever has the most wins at the end of the season is the champion.
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TheKnightOfNee
09/28/17 11:35:59 PM
#107:


I want to see all 12 non-division winners put into a series of 11 single-game elimination games to make the wild card spot. It would be 11 times more exciting than that current wild card setup, plus no team would ever be in danger of being out of a playoff spot down the stretch!
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red sox 777
09/28/17 11:36:45 PM
#108:


Yeah, Game 163 breaks a regular season tie. The Wild Card Game is the equivalent of making the top 2 teams in a division play a one-game playoff to decide the division, every year, even when one team won way more in the regular season.

I can't really discern a purpose for it other than to generate more ad revenue with an extra playoff game, and to punish the Wild Card winner. People didn't like the percentage of World Series won by WC teams or something. But that's because the WC winner under the old system was usually the 2nd or 3rd best team in the league, by regular season record. And given that they probably played in a strong division, in terms of team quality, maybe even better than the regular season record indicates. So it shouldn't be surprising they win the WS a fair number of times.
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FFDragon
09/28/17 11:38:59 PM
#109:


red sox 777 posted...
The Wild Card Game is the equivalent of making the top 2 teams in a division play a one-game playoff to decide the division, every year, even when one team won way more in the regular season.


No it is the equivalent of making the top 2 teams who lost their divisions to play a one-game playoff to decide who gets to join the real playoffs.
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ExThaNemesis
09/29/17 2:20:06 AM
#110:


You want to know what ABSOLUTELY needs to change?

The Division Series being 5 games.

There is no argument for that to not be best of seven. None.

For the Wild Card play in game, would you lot be happier if it was a short Best Of Three series?
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ExThaNemesis
09/29/17 2:22:38 AM
#111:


Oooh I saw that suggestion where the WC1 holder gets two shots at winning one game and the WC2 holder has to beat them twice to get in, that's pretty sexy. Adds a shit ton of tension. I love that.

Also Chris, how did it feel to be the ones to formally eliminate the Cardinals.
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Xuxon
09/29/17 2:34:28 AM
#112:


FFDragon posted...
wildcard game is just better in every way except for the wc1 team's whiny fanbases

tbqh i hated it from the moment it was introduced, back in 2013-2014 when the WC2 was the Yankees' only real shot
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red sox 777
09/29/17 2:43:38 AM
#113:


Baseball just isn't designed to be decided by one single game. Even a 7-game series is pretty random. I think a 7-game series of baseball is probably no better than a single game of football in determining the better team, in that a significantly better football team will win a single game match more than a significantly better baseball team will win the 7-game series.
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WiggumFan267
09/29/17 7:30:54 PM
#114:


Arti posted...
let's go twins

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tazzyboyishere
09/29/17 7:57:48 PM
#115:


I'd like to see the Yankees do well for Castro.
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Nelson_Mandela
09/29/17 11:02:24 PM
#116:


I'd love to see the sox lose out ooh boy would I love that
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DpObliVion
09/30/17 10:17:35 PM
#117:


Andrew Romine played all nine positions today, that's pretty awesome. Second-best box score listing of the season.

Andrew Romine LF-CF-RF-3B-SS-2B-C-2B-P-1B
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Mershaaay
10/01/17 2:13:40 PM
#118:


I suppose it's better to prepare for 1 play-in game than 2
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Jakyl25
10/01/17 3:49:54 PM
#119:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Oooh I saw that suggestion where the WC1 holder gets two shots at winning one game and the WC2 holder has to beat them twice to get in, that's pretty sexy. Adds a shit ton of tension. I love that.

Also Chris, how did it feel to be the ones to formally eliminate the Cardinals.


Wouldn't that actually LESSEN tension from being a single game win or go home?
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Mershaaay
10/01/17 4:01:44 PM
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WiggumFan267
10/02/17 12:46:41 AM
#121:


enjoy
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WiggumFan267
10/02/17 4:58:57 PM
#122:


Will I make a playoff topic
Who knows

Here's my predix

Yankees > Twins
Dbacks > Rockies

Dodgers > Dbacks (5)
Cubs > Never Won A Playoff Series (5)

Indians > Yankees (3)
Astros > Red Sox (4)

Dodgers > Cubs (7)
Astros > Indians (7)

Dodgers > Astros (6)
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tazzyboyishere
10/02/17 5:02:07 PM
#123:


Yanks > Twins
Dbacks > Rockies

Dbacks > Dodgers
Cubs > Nats

Indians > Yanks
Astros > Sox

Cubs > Dbacks
Indians > Astros

Cubs > Indians again
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Xuxon
10/02/17 5:18:06 PM
#124:


don't you guys know you can't predict baseball
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WiggumFan267
10/02/17 5:18:09 PM
#125:


Homer picks!!! I'm guilty too but hey
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KCF0107
10/02/17 5:18:34 PM
#126:


Yanks > Twins
Dbacks > Rockies

Indians > Yanks
Astros > Red Sox
Dbacks > Dodgers
Nationals > Cubs

Astros > Indians
Dbacks > Nationals

Astros > Dbacks
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Arti
10/02/17 5:18:57 PM
#127:


WiggumFan267 posted...
Homer picks!!! I'm guilty too but hey


yankees win world series
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WiggumFan267
10/02/17 5:19:01 PM
#128:


Xuxon posted...
don't you guys know you can't predict baseball


Thanks John Sterling
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DpObliVion
10/02/17 5:22:11 PM
#129:


Yankees > Twins
Diamondbacks > Rockies

Indians > Yankees
Astros > Red Sox
Diamondbacks > Dodgers
Nationals > Cubs (sorry, Wigs, it's happening)

Indians > Astros
Diamondbacks > Nationals

Indians > Diamondbacks
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tazzyboyishere
10/02/17 5:40:22 PM
#130:


All I did was make a favorites bracket...
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Jakyl25
10/02/17 5:47:46 PM
#131:


I want the Astros to win because I want that SI cover to be right

And also Verlander
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KCF0107
10/03/17 2:56:30 AM
#132:


Terry Collins resigns as Mets manager and will be in the front office
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DpObliVion
10/03/17 7:11:46 AM
#133:


And Jacob deGrom cut his hair.

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WiggumFan267
10/03/17 10:05:22 AM
#134:


Mets moves all here:
https://metsinsider.mlblogs.com/mets-announce-staff-changes-f64dad86ba03?sf64395773=1

Terry Collins has accepted the position of Special Assistant to General Manager Sandy Alderson.

-Ah awesome. Good for TC. I do t know of I trust him in that role but nice he stays with the org. Wonder what happens to Riccardi

Dan Warthen, who has been the Mets Pitching Coach since 2008, will not return as New York's Pitching Coach, and has been offered another role in the organization. Bench Coach Dick Scott, First Base Coach Tom Goodwin, Bullpen Coach Ricky Bones will be given permission to speak to other teams, pending the selection of a new manager.

Will miss warthen but I guess he killed our pitchers. Keeping him around to teach that warthen slider he's famous for. Goodwin and Bones were cool dudes.

The Mets will retain coaches Kevin Long and Pat Roessler along with Third Base Coach Glenn Sherlock who is already under contract for 2018.

-Great news. I met these guys before. They're really smart and know what they're doing.

.................

Ray Ramirez, who has been the Mets Head Trainer since the 2005 season, will not return in 2018.

............

OH MY GODDDDDDDD

IT FINALLY FUCKING HAPPENED JRDKKESOOEJEOEKEKEKWKSKSKE

I HAVE BEEN WAITING 10 YEARS FOR THIS FUCKING DAY!!!!!!!!!!

THE METS CURSE IS FINALLY OVER OMFG WE CAN ACTUALLY STAY HEALTHY NOW OMG

(I mean they will still be dumb and make awful decisions about injuries but now it will be like when it's a NORMAL team injuries, not a CURSED set of injuries)

Oh my god this is the most amazing thing ever

I'm so happy. Our curse is finally broken.

New trainer will get the biggest applause ever on opening day
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WiggumFan267
10/03/17 10:12:08 AM
#135:


This is like top 20 day of my life
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DpObliVion
10/03/17 7:06:47 PM
#136:


WHOOOOOOOOO GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE, RAY RAMlREZ
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WiggumFan267
10/03/17 7:49:20 PM
#137:


do the yankees actually play the evil empire theme for the opposing teams?
lmao, so deluded
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Meow1000
10/03/17 8:19:37 PM
#138:


Trusting Severino is going well
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CherryCokes
10/03/17 8:20:07 PM
#139:


all is going according to plan
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tazzyboyishere
10/03/17 8:25:20 PM
#140:


I wonder how many times Severino has caused Seph to yell the n-word
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WiggumFan267
10/03/17 8:30:01 PM
#141:


lmaoooo

The only downside of this is having to hear y'all Yankees fans complain about the Wildcard game forever.

I can safely say btw, and there is probably proof of me saying this, that I like it a lot, even considering the Mets lost in it last year.

Great tension, love the focus on winning division and divisional games... the old method of 1 WC team was fine. But this is way better.

The results or circumstances of any particular Wild Card game/situation don't change my feelings on it.
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Meow1000
10/03/17 8:31:54 PM
#142:


Props to Girardi for the quick hook, he struggles with leaving pitchers in too long. Actually keeps the Yankees in the game.
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Meow1000
10/03/17 8:36:34 PM
#143:


WiggumFan267 posted...
lmaoooo

The only downside of this is having to hear y'all Yankees fans complain about the Wildcard game forever.

I can safely say btw, and there is probably proof of me saying this, that I like it a lot, even considering the Mets lost in it last year.

Great tension, love the focus on winning division and divisional games... the old method of 1 WC team was fine. But this is way better.

The results or circumstances of any particular Wild Card game/situation don't change my feelings on it.


This is why I wasn't in favor of the Yankees making any major trades. They know they're a year or two early, but they made a bunch of trades trying to win the division (And they're not beating Cleveland or Houston in a series). Now they've settled for a wild card game they would've been in anyway, except instead of playing with house money and enjoying the ride, the season's effectively a colossal failure if they lose here.
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tazzyboyishere
10/03/17 8:46:55 PM
#144:


lol twins
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WiggumFan267
10/03/17 9:18:17 PM
#145:


lol ok i'll eat shit

i always forget the yankees playing in a minor league stadium means THEY can do the same thing as other teams
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Meow1000
10/03/17 9:30:24 PM
#146:


The Indians are watching this game and laughing.

How many pitchers will this game end up having
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NBIceman
10/03/17 9:33:01 PM
#147:


The Yankees home runs tonight have been 391 and 393 feet. Rosario's was the only homer tonight where the short porch has come into play.

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Meow1000
10/03/17 10:14:44 PM
#148:


The ball is getting hit.. hard, today.
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Emeraldegg
10/03/17 10:23:51 PM
#149:


The Twins blew a 3-0 lead, even more of a choke job than the warriors!
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RPGlord95
10/03/17 10:24:57 PM
#150:


Oh Wigs.

Leave the calls to the professional

Yankees have this all wrapped up, consider it...

ZzzzZzZzzzz *falls asleep*
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