Board 8 > Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius Topic 35 - A2, Brute?

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The Mana Sword
08/15/17 1:14:55 PM
#101:


Scratch that, I can barely get Maxwell to 600 ATK, that's just not going to be viable.
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crazygamer999
08/15/17 1:16:38 PM
#102:


RaidenZeroX posted...
My only DPS' were my Fryevia and a friend Fryevia. Other than that I used King, Tilith, WoL, and Rikku.

This for me, except replace King with Maxwell.

The Mana Sword posted...
Can the Gilgamesh trial be fairly easily OHKO'd now? I never got Bushido Freedom and I'm looking up strats for Aigaion and a lot of them recommend it.

You can use it, but you don't really have to- the only thing you really need dispelled is the main body.
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Fiyun
08/15/17 1:20:29 PM
#103:


The Mana Sword posted...
RaidenZeroX posted...
My only DPS' were my Fryevia and a friend Fryevia. Other than that I used King, Tilith, WoL, and Rikku.


Is WoL necessary? I'm probably going to have to do this the long way because I have to use Orlandeau(s) as my damage dealer, and they'll have to be gimped (maybe).

I could use Maxwell as the Sacrifice, and then Tilith, Ace (mana battery), Rikku & Orlandeau x2.

Or I could use Tilith, Ace, Rem + WoL (provoke/revive) and then 2x Orleandeau, but I miss out on Rikku's stuff, which seems better. I guess I should see how high I can get Maxwell.


I will say for Aigaion, unless you ramp everyones' SPR to 300+ you should have a tank to absorb those basic attacks since you don't want your sacrificial lamb to eat GB, and stray hits on the same turn until Lefty is dead and buried.
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Natwaf_akidna
08/15/17 1:22:31 PM
#104:


WoL's Light Is With Us was pretty boss, drawing in Aigaion's random pokes without attracting Left Arm's OHKO attack

My only DPS was a friend 1000+ MAG Fryevia

... or was it 900+ MAG? Either way, it took me 6,5 hours to do it the long way
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The Mana Sword
08/15/17 1:23:46 PM
#105:


Natwaf_akidna posted...
Either way, it took me 6,5 hours to do it the long way


Yeah this is my issue. I would love to get this gear for A2 right now, but it's not worth hours and hours of my time to do it.
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Natwaf_akidna
08/15/17 1:25:46 PM
#106:


I mean, you don't have to do it continuously

Just sacrifice your NRG and Arena Orb and fight the fight as you have time. I think one guy did it after 20 hours of a lot more off than on fighting
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The Mana Sword
08/15/17 1:29:09 PM
#107:


I don't have the patience for that. If I spent 4+ hours on this fight, even across 24 hours, and ended up losing because of bad RNG or something, I'd throw my phone in a wood chipper and burn down my apartment.

I'd honestly rather ignore it and just pray for a Fryevia someday.
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Lopen
08/15/17 1:31:51 PM
#108:


I think a 6 hour boss sounds awesome.

Once I get Delita functional I'll probably start tackling these things.
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Fiyun
08/15/17 1:34:15 PM
#109:


The only time bad rng should happen is as long as Lefty is still alive.

Once it's dead you prepare for that double GB(Always dispel the bastard) once you killed the right man once.

After it is dead and buried it's a smooth, but long, predictable battle as long as you have Rikku. OR Tidus to make it easier.
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voltch
08/15/17 1:44:02 PM
#110:


Surely there has to be a way for us to brute force the bastard?

Would sticking machine killer help any?
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RaidenZeroX
08/15/17 1:50:03 PM
#111:


WoL was completely necessary for me. Since I used Fry, I killed the body first and went the short route. After the body is gone the right arm becomes a problem (this was actually the hardest part of the fight with the body first method, at least from my experience). It took about a little over an hour. With Orlandeau or Emperor I don't think you can do the body first method since the damage to the body ends up getting outhealed by the right arm.

Machine killer is a big help, especially if you're going the brute force method on the body.
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The Mana Sword
08/15/17 1:50:09 PM
#112:


voltch posted...
Surely there has to be a way for us to brute force the bastard?


You can with 2x Fryevia. You just need to be able to consistently do more than 500k damage to the body every turn.
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voltch
08/15/17 1:54:43 PM
#113:


500k a turn?

Hmmm, should be possible with dual Machine Killer 2Bs then, Triple 2Bs should be able to hit that mark or powerful friend Orlandeau to activate DV.

So I would need to figure out the other 3 characters in the party should be.

Rem/Rikku/Tilith?
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RaidenZeroX
08/15/17 1:59:25 PM
#114:


voltch posted...
500k a turn?

Hmmm, should be possible with dual Machine Killer 2Bs then, Triple 2Bs should be able to hit that mark or powerful friend Orlandeau to activate DV.

So I would need to figure out the other 3 characters in the party should be.

Rem/Rikku/Tilith?


It's possible, but once the body is dead you'll need some luck, because the right arm will be hitting, and hitting hard. That's why WoL was huge during that portion. If I didn't have WoL I wouldn't have got through even half of the right arm portion. Even then it still took some luck with Fry getting I shall not lose! followed by dodging the next physical attack.

Can't 2B be used as a chainer as well? With her innate machine killer, it might be a safer solution to use both of them, and drop Orlandeau for WoL
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The Mana Sword
08/15/17 1:59:44 PM
#115:


That might work? Just be careful before crossing the 70% threshold (and every 5 turns after that) and make sure you have Rikku's LB, because World Destroyer + all the other attacks from the arms are rough.
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The Mana Sword
08/15/17 2:00:38 PM
#116:


Alternatively, if you're careful, you can probably work is so you kill the body & right arm on the same turn.
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Fiyun
08/15/17 2:05:17 PM
#117:


LV 25 LBs 2Bs was one reason if prepped for Aigaion.
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voltch
08/15/17 2:06:53 PM
#118:


What if I were to use Avoid right off the bat?

Would 2B evade w/e he throws at me?
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The Mana Sword
08/15/17 2:07:26 PM
#119:


No, the OHKO attack can't be evaded.
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crazygamer999
08/15/17 2:35:54 PM
#120:


Pretty much there's 2 ways to go about it-

The first is the ARMS method: kill the left arm 10 times, then kill right arm 3x, then main body.
It's safer since you free your OHKO provoker after L arm is down and it's relatively easy until you kill the Right Arm the second time( then you have to tank 2 Genocide beams a turn) and the last phase( cause World Destroyer), but you're running through a total of 13 lifebars, so it takes hours.

The other way is the Brute Force method( which I did)- kill Main Body, then Right Arm, then Left Arm.
Much quicker than the ARMS method, but it's also a harder route for a few reasons:
1) you'll almost always be down one member cause you kill the Left Arm last( which also makes the Ramuh mission a touch harder and to be saved for last because electric attacks to it lead the arm to counter with a very painful AoE)
2) It is REQUIRED that you do at least more than 500k per turn to out damage the R arm heals
3) you'll be taking the attacks of all three parts- including World Destroyer once you pass 70% and every 5 turns past said threshold

It gets easier as it goes on; once the main body goes down, you just have to deal with 8 buffed Physical attacks from the right arm- usually a good idea to get the Right Arm's life down as much as possible during the main body phase without killing it- and once the right arm goes down, the Left arm just keeps killing your OHKO bait and nothing else, so you can take your frustrations out on it.

Also, note that 100% provoke can override the "highest atk" focus, so if your OHKO bait goes down without a reraise and you have someone with 100% provoke(WoL, Wilhelm), they can take the hit instead while you recover the Re-raise.
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voltch
08/15/17 4:53:33 PM
#121:


I don't think I have the TMRs to confidently go in.

I have made some strides lately, but will still need to invest a decent amount to prep what I think I need.
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Natwaf_akidna
08/15/17 6:31:11 PM
#122:


Actually, you know what the best part of this Ability Awakening batch is?

I can finally use all of my superfluous Tech crysts on something
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Fiyun
08/15/17 6:34:50 PM
#123:


For those with Marie, do pay attention to the datamine since Lovely Guard +2 is only a 40% def/spr in JP.
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GANON1025
08/15/17 6:38:07 PM
#124:


9S' limit break looks awesome
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The Mana Sword
08/15/17 8:46:04 PM
#125:


Adventurer III crafted

just a couple more months to go!!
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Horith
08/15/17 9:16:36 PM
#126:


Is anyone else having terrible luck with Explorations this week? I swear I've failed more in the last few days than I have in the last month. I don't think I've even broken 100 Relics yet this week, and I'm a bit worried about making the 140. I realize some of it is my units are still mostly 4-star, so obviously I'm not really matching the requirements, but it's still pretty disheartening to see three missions in a row fail.

Also, a question on how long buffs are supposed to last. I'm using Zargabaath in the raid to keep from being paralyzed, and from my understanding it's supposed to last three turns. I use it on Turn 1, and my mind is thinking I shouldn't need to use it again until Turn 4. But (and maybe I'm just not paying attention), I swear I'm seeing some units get paralyzed if I don't use it on Turn 3, which means I'm only getting the benefits for two of Engel's attack turns. Am I just imagining things, or is the game that blatantly unfair when it comes to buff/debuff duration?
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FFDragon
08/15/17 9:18:31 PM
#127:


I made 140 yesterday and haven't noticed a huge difference, no.

Must just be on the bad side of variance.
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Fiyun
08/15/17 11:47:23 PM
#128:


Horith posted...
Is anyone else having terrible luck with Explorations this week? I swear I've failed more in the last few days than I have in the last month. I don't think I've even broken 100 Relics yet this week, and I'm a bit worried about making the 140. I realize some of it is my units are still mostly 4-star, so obviously I'm not really matching the requirements, but it's still pretty disheartening to see three missions in a row fail.

Also, a question on how long buffs are supposed to last. I'm using Zargabaath in the raid to keep from being paralyzed, and from my understanding it's supposed to last three turns. I use it on Turn 1, and my mind is thinking I shouldn't need to use it again until Turn 4. But (and maybe I'm just not paying attention), I swear I'm seeing some units get paralyzed if I don't use it on Turn 3, which means I'm only getting the benefits for two of Engel's attack turns. Am I just imagining things, or is the game that blatantly unfair when it comes to buff/debuff duration?


Haven't noticed any change yet in fail/success ratio, but it have been brought up on Reddit.

Report, since it lasts this turn+ 2 more of your turns.
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crazygamer999
08/16/17 12:00:34 AM
#129:


voltch posted...
I don't think I have the TMRs to confidently go in.

I have made some strides lately, but will still need to invest a decent amount to prep what I think I need.

I mean, I did it with few TM's(DW for my DPS Fry and Maxwell so he can be bait, Fry's needle, a bunch of Follower's Oaths, 2 Gungnir for Maxwell)-it was more event weapons and abilities that won the day.

but yea, your team of 2Bx2/Rem/Rikku/Tillith is fine. If possible get the 2B as a friend and stick a WoL in there for tanks and SPR Breaks.
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ChaosTonyV4
08/16/17 12:05:02 AM
#130:


What does Maxwell have that makes her so useful for it?
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Fiyun
08/16/17 12:10:49 AM
#131:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
What does Maxwell have that makes her so useful for it?


80% self-resurrection+aoe dispel+high hp+highest attack if using Emperor/Rem/Fry means she eats it.
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Horith
08/16/17 12:16:05 AM
#132:


Fiyun posted...
Report, since it lasts this turn+ 2 more of your turns.


At this point, I'm pretty sure I was just imagining things. But I'll keep an eye out.

I know most people aren't enjoying it, but I'm really loving the magicite rewards for this raid. My espers were so damn far behind, and now I have Lakshmi, Golem, and Titan all fairly well raised up on top ofthe Odin, Diabolos and Ifrit from last raid. And we're not even halfway done? Looks like most of my espers will finally start looking useful.

And I finally got Orlandeau max leveled, with the only problem being that he's going to be sharing so much equipment with Tidus. How badly will I piss off my friend list by rotating between the two? XD
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Fiyun
08/16/17 12:22:56 AM
#133:


Horith posted...
Fiyun posted...
Report, since it lasts this turn+ 2 more of your turns.


At this point, I'm pretty sure I was just imagining things. But I'll keep an eye out.

I know most people aren't enjoying it, but I'm really loving the magicite rewards for this raid. My espers were so damn far behind, and now I have Lakshmi, Golem, and Titan all fairly well raised up on top ofthe Odin, Diabolos and Ifrit from last raid. And we're not even halfway done? Looks like most of my espers will finally start looking useful.

And I finally got Orlandeau max leveled, with the only problem being that he's going to be sharing so much equipment with Tidus. How badly will I piss off my friend list by rotating between the two? XD


Well, *3 espers are gluttons, so you will need all magicite you can get your hands on.

So until Siren/Ifrit/Shiva/Ramuh *3 most of us will insta-fill Tertra-Sylph, Bahamut and perhaps Fenrir.


As long as you are strong enough most won't probably care much, unless you only have a list dominated by one unit. (And active gifter since I seemed to be down to about 70/130 on Fiyun after I stopped going to that account since anniversary.)
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BakusaiTenketsu
08/16/17 12:24:00 AM
#134:


Just pick one and have the other be sloppy seconds. It doesn't matter, the weaker one will be the first chainer and the stronger one the second and your companion.
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voltch
08/16/17 1:18:12 AM
#135:


Monster breastplate up to 70%

Next up, I may push for a 3rd blade mastery
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Fiyun
08/16/17 2:52:11 AM
#136:


You could try testing on a KitKat or older if you have something since it apparently worked on a Galaxy tab 4. (I had Jellybean for my device.)
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voltch
08/16/17 3:13:59 AM
#137:


Yeah I don't have any older phones or tablets at my disposal.
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Natwaf_akidna
08/16/17 4:18:54 AM
#138:


Man what the hell

I just finished a Raid fight and the stupid quest didn't count it for my Daily Quest because of a connection error
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Natwaf_akidna
08/16/17 4:23:15 AM
#139:


Also 3rd Eve from daily

Hmm
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Fiyun
08/16/17 5:05:35 AM
#140:


Welp.

Malboro Killers, like predicted.

Kefka, Cod, Soleil, WoL, Trance Terra.
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Natwaf_akidna
08/16/17 5:47:17 AM
#141:


These later than usual announcements man

Global Exclusive The Rumble Of Malboro Trial is finally here! After the maintenance anyway. Y'all know what a Great Malboro is, so expect a ridiculous amount of status ailments coming your way. Also the Moogle warns that about the Malboro's mouth (that Devour thing from the datamine?) and that there are multiple Malboros. The reward is a magic whip (ugh I have nobody who can use it) for clearing it on ELT, Ticket on PRO, and 100 Lapis on ADV. No items on ELT nets you a 5* 10% Moogle, Evoke Ifrit (not beat with) nets you the Malboro's Eye accessory which when used provides a 3 turn status immunity to poison, sleep, silence, and stone, and if you beat Great Malboro with an LB you'll get the Malboro's Whisper passive Ability, HP +20% and MAG +30%.

We also get a banner alongside the Trial, with 3-6* CoD (... why? Innate status resistance?), 3-6* Kefka (Ribbon (full status immunity accessory) TMR), 4-6* Warrior of Light (The Great WoL, come get him!), 4-6* Soleil (now I'm even more hyped for her Global exclusive buffs), and 5-6* Trance Terra (... uhh... I have no idea. Magic user I guess. Does she even use a whip?)

Finally, Maintenance on Wednesday 16-Aug 23:00 to Thursday 05:00 PDT. Just 6 hours thank god for that
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Fiyun
08/16/17 5:55:16 AM
#142:


It was just a 50% resistance for those last time I checked.
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voltch
08/16/17 6:06:55 AM
#143:


Summoning Abel crashed my game.
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The Mana Sword
08/16/17 6:07:30 AM
#144:


guess I spoke too soon about no new banner

trash
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voltch
08/16/17 6:08:33 AM
#145:


Guess tomorrow you gotta decide if you wanna spend
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Natwaf_akidna
08/16/17 6:26:53 AM
#146:


Well, the Nier banner will stick around for another week I think
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The Mana Sword
08/16/17 6:30:23 AM
#147:


yeah it'll remain the the off banner for another weeks, so that's another week of tickets I can blow before dropping more cash at a futile attempt to obtain 2B
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Fiyun
08/16/17 7:09:27 AM
#148:


Huh. Apparently 21O also got the bug, but with her laser.
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RaidenZeroX
08/16/17 7:09:36 AM
#149:


Replacing one of the most hyped banners with a terrible banner. Even with Nier being off banner but still available, I can't bring myself to waste lapis on the Marlboro Killers. I got what I wanted out of Nier, and my last 2 dailies have been Clyne and Russell, so I think I'm good!
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The Mana Sword
08/16/17 7:27:23 AM
#150:


gumi needed to give us a break before FF3
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