Board 8 > Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius Topic 35 - A2, Brute?

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voltch
08/16/17 7:57:38 AM
#151:


How long till the following, mistair, ayaka, beatrix and that hard what's his face...roy?

If possible I'd like to head into ffix with over 100 tickets.
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The Mana Sword
08/16/17 8:01:26 AM
#152:


Ayaka ~6 weeks
Roy ~10 weeks
Mistair ~13 weeks
Beatrix ~16 weeks
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voltch
08/16/17 8:05:13 AM
#153:


Ok this isn't good
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Natwaf_akidna
08/16/17 8:46:52 AM
#154:


Wait is Mistair 5*?

Is there a poor man's version of a Magic tank if he is?
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voltch
08/16/17 8:56:06 AM
#155:


He is 4*
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Fiyun
08/16/17 8:57:42 AM
#156:


Mistair is a *4 like WoL. Basch the phys and mag tank is *5.
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RaidenZeroX
08/16/17 9:01:00 AM
#157:


Only 6ish weeks until Ayaka? TOO CLOSE NEED MORE TIME.
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voltch
08/16/17 9:09:21 AM
#158:


Yeah skipping ayaka, the only one that got me to pull during the nier hoarding was ffx cos I wanted rikku and tidus.

Only got rikku
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Natwaf_akidna
08/16/17 9:14:27 AM
#159:


Oh good

Sorry BD, I need me some Mistair so that's where my tickets go now
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voltch
08/16/17 9:27:33 AM
#160:


Fuck, anything in the 16 week range likely clashes with Christmas stuff.

That could be guaranteed 5s I guess.
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BakusaiTenketsu
08/16/17 9:42:43 AM
#161:


Looks like I can save 1750 Lapis on daily pulls for the next week at least, and hopefully longer if the coming weeks are still rather pointless. I might continue to use excess tickets on the Nier Banner in hopes of A2 though.

After this next week it's back to saving tickets until probably Basch or Onion Knight I'm guessing.
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Natwaf_akidna
08/16/17 9:43:42 AM
#162:


Ilias maxed out

Come the **** on Great Malboro
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Natwaf_akidna
08/16/17 9:58:14 AM
#163:


And on that note, my remaining 6* capable units I haven't maxed out are:

4* 9S (Burst Pot candidate)
4* Adam
5* Bran
4* Eve
4* Helena
4* Meliadoul
4* Rasler
5* Veritas of the Earth (Burst Pot candidate)

Discounting clones of course

I don't condone clones

That King Burst Pot can't come here soon enough, I want to finish up VoE already
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Taimanin_Asagi
08/16/17 10:03:51 AM
#164:


Oh, whoops, forgot 6* Kelsus still hasn't been maxed out yet.
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RaidenZeroX
08/16/17 10:42:26 AM
#165:


Natwaf_akidna posted...
4* Helena

Discounting clones of course

I don't condone clones


You must hate Orphan Black. </referencenobodywillget>
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Fiyun
08/16/17 11:25:32 AM
#166:


Natwaf_akidna posted...
And on that note, my remaining 6* capable units I haven't maxed out are:

4* 9S (Burst Pot candidate)
4* Adam
5* Bran
4* Eve
4* Helena
4* Meliadoul
4* Rasler
5* Veritas of the Earth (Burst Pot candidate)

Discounting clones of course

I don't condone clones

That King Burst Pot can't come here soon enough, I want to finish up VoE already


Unless you finish the rest I would suggest to put the highlighted ones on the back burner since the units themselves aren't that useful. (Unless you really fancy them of course.)
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Taimanin_Asagi
08/16/17 12:23:40 PM
#167:


I'll take that under advisement

I've also got these future 6* (and 1 5* that might be useful) units to max out:

3* Heltich
4* Rosa
5* Ruggles
4* Timothy (Burst Pot candidate)
4* Ulrica
4* Wakka

Wakka is annoying because I'm still out of Quality Parts

Oh well, between Cactuar Dunes and the Raid Coin summons I think I can max out most of the current 6* including Popoi.
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Fiyun
08/16/17 1:52:34 PM
#168:


I will toss in my reasoning.

Adam

- Crap weapon selection since you are better off giving someone else the Aigaion Arm. (Fixed Dice could work, but he does have no passives outside the LB for ATK.)

- Dodgy abilities. (Raw Feelings is Queen-tier difficult to pull off. Sever Network is limited if you don't graviga your party, which is more suited for Veritas. Cube Explosion requires you to alter with the passive Damage Cut so damage is jumpy for finisher even with Fixed Dice, where better units exists for that role.)

- LB doesn't have that oumph it should have(80-104%) given what it does he will have jumpy damage since you need to fire off something like LB>Bullet Wave(delayed)>Bullet Wave>LB, or LB>Damage Cut>Cube Explosion>LB.

Eve

Being a brawler pre-Prishe he already shot himself in the foot despite he had some potential. (Gather Machine Scraps churns out about 900hp regen per turn. LB is quicker than Seven's but no guaranteed stun for everyone.)

- Same crappy weapon selection, and the dmg multipliers only benefit new players.

- Similar issues regarding passives(Queen!), but he had at least more atk boosters.

Helena

Like I said in the past she is good for new players.

DW for daggers, whips, throwing weapons and guns. (Crappy weapon selection, but works for 400+atk until enhancements, or pulling better units.)

Enhanced: Wield Two Dagger/Whip/Projectile/Gun & 1.5x Chest Drop Chance & +40% ATK when equipped with Gun & LB Fill Rate +100%

Best Shot is 450%. (525% after enhancements.)

- Camo, Hide, Raise, 20% dodge, escape.

Endless Sleep, enhanced: 100% Sleep & Self Recover 50% HP/MP & Self 5 Turn +60% ATK & Self Fill LB Gauge: +10.

Rasler

Tanky, healer, kind of and can chain if light, but that's it unless Gumi makes him viable since his enhanced Royal Obligation is worse than WoL's Light is with us in our current state.


Besides Tim, you can slowly work on the rest if you want on that second list.
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ChaosTonyV4
08/16/17 3:15:03 PM
#169:


Man, I'm having a lot of fun using Zargabaath.

He's so useful.
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WoIfOfLight
08/16/17 3:54:21 PM
#170:


i got only eve, adam, and 21O. I'm kind of burnt on this event. Even a 9S would have been nice.
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voltch
08/16/17 4:07:40 PM
#171:


don't give up on that elusive 9S!

That TMR is gold
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WoIfOfLight
08/16/17 6:39:11 PM
#172:


The tmr is absolutely fantastic and i might give some pulls when i get paid
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BakusaiTenketsu
08/16/17 7:12:29 PM
#173:


I have the hardest time chaining anyone not named Orlandeau lol.

I even had Fry, 2B, and Landeau in a team and couldn't get over a 12 Chain with Blitz, Speed, and DR.

What the ever livin' hell?
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Wanglicious
08/16/17 7:14:04 PM
#174:


if you're going to buy stuff, remember that this friday two bundles are resetting.
more tickets and more lapis.
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The Mana Sword
08/16/17 7:15:49 PM
#175:


They don't have compatible frames with each other so they won't properly fill chain.
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The Mana Sword
08/16/17 7:16:07 PM
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BakusaiTenketsu
08/16/17 7:19:47 PM
#177:


The Mana Sword posted...
They don't have compatible frames with each other so they won't properly fill chain.

Is there a resource that explains compatible chainers, or maybe just fundamentals I may not be completely aware of?
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The Mana Sword
08/16/17 7:22:26 PM
#178:


There's a thread on Reddit somewhere that I'm sure Fiyun will post soon that has frame data for the major chainers.
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GANON1025
08/16/17 7:34:32 PM
#179:


I have FIVE 9Ses now. What am I going to do with all these boys
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BakusaiTenketsu
08/16/17 7:49:09 PM
#180:


GANON1025 posted...
I have FIVE 9Ses now. What am I going to do with all these boys

Start a Catholic Church?
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Taimanin_Asagi
08/17/17 12:55:33 AM
#181:


Maintenance imminent
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Fiyun
08/17/17 12:59:34 AM
#182:


Few units have the ability to hit a harmonic chain without a copy of themselves. (Orlandeau+DV+enhanced Agrias, Camille+Tidus/Elieen.)

https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/6sxtk0/update_who_chains_with_whom_v4_nier_cg_lid/

https://dm.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/6q2nji/who_chains_with_who_multihit_chaining_abilities/

GANON1025 posted...
I have FIVE 9Ses now. What am I going to do with all these boys


Getting all five TMRs would allow your whole party to chain together no matter who.
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Taimanin_Asagi
08/17/17 1:03:35 AM
#183:


Huh

I didn't realize Chizuru and Tidus chained. Not well since Chizuru has to move, but still...
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Fiyun
08/17/17 1:05:32 AM
#184:


There is some need to experiment with positioning units here and there.
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Taimanin_Asagi
08/17/17 2:00:58 AM
#185:


Phew, managed to squeeze in one last Raid before the maintenance hit
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Fiyun
08/17/17 2:30:44 AM
#186:


I will miss that moment when I felt like an ultra whalelord.... ;_;
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Fiyun
08/17/17 3:19:27 AM
#187:


So far:

(A2) Offensive Heal Combo

From: 2x 7 Hits/9 Frames Delay (Exact Hit Frames)
To: 2x 7 Hits/2x 10 Frames Delay (Every 5 Frames)

Damage: 40-50-60-70-80-90-100
Drain: 35-45-55-65-75-85-95


(Randi) Auto-Charge+2

From: +8LS/Turn
To: +6 LS/Turn & +30% ATK


(Primm) Saint Beam+2

From: 400% AoE 1 Hit Light Magic Attack & AoE 3 Turn -50% Light Resist
To: 500% AoE 1 Hit Light Magic Attack & AoE 3 Turn -50% Light Resist



(Grace) Unlimited+2

From: Self 5 Turn +150% ATK/DEF/MAG/SPR
To: Self 5 Turn +200% ATK/DEF/MAG/SPR

https://dm.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/6u8bjj/gl_maint_quick_peek_817/

Full list:

https://ghostbin.com/paste/amsj3

Edit. Forgot her...

https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Chic_Ariana
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Wanglicious
08/17/17 3:43:12 AM
#188:


i really do like Grace's enhancements. one T5 Tech and 3 T4 Techs makes Battle Cyborg go from +30% HP and +15% elements to going 30% on all elements, +30% ATK, and +30% DEF. that's a crazy good improvement on something so cheap. Unlimited and Last Sequence updates are really nice too but they're extremely expensive. Battle Cyborg though, that's legit.

edit:

wait, that ghost bin offers VERY different things. apart from buffing Unlimited they don't appear to be touching Last Sequence. instead they're buffing Whole Fist and Destroy Arm? the latter's currently 2.1x with a 25% defense ignore. that going to 5x and ??? defense ignore makes her DPS legit good.
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ChaosTonyV4
08/17/17 3:58:57 AM
#189:


Not to mention she has an insane amount of base HP.

She's on my TM team right now, but I'm not opposed to using her when I get bored of my usual team.
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Wanglicious
08/17/17 4:24:01 AM
#190:


yeah, she's actually turned around into a great unit in global. she easily breaks 10k HP so 200% defenses on that, a strong DPS move, and... it's not hard to enhance either. Last Sequence was stupid expensive to buff. Whole Fist needs a single T4 to +2, Destroy Arm is +3 T4s and +1 T5. a single power purecryst? i'm down for raising that.

Soleil's buffs/debuff game seems gimmicky but i can see it work. basically 100% AoE ATK and MAG buffs + 35% of either DEF or SPR, 100% AoE DEF and SPR buff with a 35% debuff to either ATK or MAG. if fighting a boss weak to only one break, that ain't so bad. if she just goes in a buff loop, you'll basically go 100% two stats, 120% the other two, and repeat at 120%. she's a budget enhanced Ramza and kicks Zarga's ass on the buffing game too. Endless Turn also makes 100% physical evasion builds possible for her now too, goes well with the status immunity and MP regen. they're all Tech crysts too so that'll work.

edit:
actually wait, enhanced Ramza was just 100% for 3 turns?
lol Soleil is doing 100% to two stats for 2 turns + a debuff for 2 turns -> 120% to two stats for 2 turns + a debuff for 4 turns if you keep dancing -> do the first again to go 120% instead now.

i'm not sure how "budget" that is but goddamn. yeah Ramza has other perks with healing and MP regen but that's legit.
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Fiyun
08/17/17 4:47:19 AM
#191:


Ramza and Lunera are fire and forget without any upkeep or alternating between actions each turn.

Roy will be lazier than Soleil once he hits turn 5(Just hit repeat.)

Edit: Like I said before, Marie-users should get Love You All +2 and Lovely Guard +1 for the most bang. The rest are up to you.
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Taimanin_Asagi
08/17/17 4:56:33 AM
#192:


Well them's the breaks

At least I can have a taste of awesome buffs! Looks like Tilith will have to supply the healing Soleil doesn't provide.

I'm thinking of a party of Tidus, WoL, Ilias, Tilith, and Soleil for the Malboro trial. I dunno. We'll see.
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The Mana Sword
08/17/17 6:11:15 AM
#193:


did...they just make Randi even better?
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voltch
08/17/17 6:27:04 AM
#194:


Throwing you a bone after not getting what you wanted out of the banner sounds like.
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Taimanin_Asagi
08/17/17 7:40:14 AM
#195:


Apparently the game is up, but I've been unable to log in
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Fiyun
08/17/17 7:46:51 AM
#196:


In.

Edit: Aiden heals 40mp when enhanced.

Longer duration on buffs too.
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The Mana Sword
08/17/17 7:55:17 AM
#197:


Sounds like A2 can perfect chain OHC with herself now. Get hype.
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voltch
08/17/17 8:12:30 AM
#198:


hmmm now that 2B #2 is "complete" (only 600 ATK for now)

Tested 3 2Bs (random friend) + Orlandeau.

74 hit chain using Speed. if I set things up with Avoid Attack or Extract Speed I'm sure the total would be much higher, but this isn't too bad, for something right off the bat.
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Fiyun
08/17/17 8:35:38 AM
#199:


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RaidenZeroX
08/17/17 8:40:53 AM
#200:


Can't decide what I should do for Marlboro. If I run WoL, Marie, Tilith, Rikku, and Fryevia, Fry ends up getting the berserk.

If I swap in Dark Veritas for dark goodness, I have to drop either Fry, Rikku, or Marie. I probably don't need Marie because I have status immunity for 4 units already, and can make DV immune to the really bad ones that cause him to miss turns, but I still want to use enhanced Marie. Decisions decisions!
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