Current Events > United CEO doubles down, says passenger was 'disruptive and belligerent'

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https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/10/united-ceo-passenger-disruptive-belligerent.html

I am going to actively avoid United whenever possible.

I've always flown Delta anyway.
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Can some one sum up for me why this airplane kerfuffle is news right now? From what I've gathered it sounds like a man was asked to get off a plane, he refused, so they removed him. Sounds fair to me.
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I've never flown United but if I was looking for a flight and they were the cheapest by a noteworthy amount I still would.
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I don't fly. Period. And this is what, the second time United did something stupid that will inevitably cause their stock to plunge? Remember, there's a song out there called "United Breaks Guitars"
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Dig up, stupid.
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FroMan posted...

Can some one sum up for me why this airplane kerfuffle is news right now? From what I've gathered it sounds like a man was asked to get off a plane, he refused, so they removed him. Sounds fair to me.

There's nothing fair about being forced to disembark from your plane despite having a valid ticket you paid for.
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FroMan posted...

Can some one sum up for me why this airplane kerfuffle is news right now? From what I've gathered it sounds like a man was asked to get off a plane, he refused, so they removed him. Sounds fair to me.

United needed to fly four of its employees, so they asked passengers that had already bought their tickets and were sitting on the plane to volunteer to leave. Nobody accepted the shitty offer of $800 so they decided to send in police officers to go in and forcibly remove a 69 year old doctor.

http://cdn.bgr.com/2017/04/united-passenger-removed.png?w=375&h=220&crop=1

Yeah, that looks "fair" to me too.

Darmik posted...

FroMan posted...

Can some one sum up for me why this airplane kerfuffle is news right now? From what I've gathered it sounds like a man was asked to get off a plane, he refused, so they removed him. Sounds fair to me.

There's nothing fair about being forced to disembark from your plane despite having a valid ticket you paid for.

Depending on what actually happened, sure there is

I haven't read about this at all though
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FroMan posted...

Can some one sum up for me why this airplane kerfuffle is news right now? From what I've gathered it sounds like a man was asked to get off a plane, he refused, so they removed him. Sounds fair to me.

Overbooking is a shit practice anyway. I'm glad united is getting exposed. You need to get your employees somewhere? Thats on you. Guy shouldn't have been made to give up his seat to begin with
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FroMan posted...

Can some one sum up for me why this airplane kerfuffle is news right now? From what I've gathered it sounds like a man was asked to get off a plane, he refused, so they removed him. Sounds fair to me.

The man paid for his seat and was just sitting there but they overbooked the flight, so they asked him to "volunteer" his seat and when he refused they attacked him and dragged his bloodied body out like a corpse on TWD.
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BeantownHero posted...

FroMan posted...

Can some one sum up for me why this airplane kerfuffle is news right now? From what I've gathered it sounds like a man was asked to get off a plane, he refused, so they removed him. Sounds fair to me.

Overbooking is a shit practice anyway. I'm glad united is getting exposed. You need to get your employees somewhere? Thats on you. Guy shouldn't have been made to give up his seat to begin with

There are ways to deal with that situation. One is to simply have four seats already on hold just for employees. Another would be to ask if anybody wants to give up their seat BEFORE they board the plane.

The way they handled it was just stupid on all levels, and clearly created a huge PR disaster for them.
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wolverinev2 posted...

clearly created a huge PR disaster for them.

United is good at that.
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SpiralDrift posted...

FroMan posted...

Can some one sum up for me why this airplane kerfuffle is news right now? From what I've gathered it sounds like a man was asked to get off a plane, he refused, so they removed him. Sounds fair to me.

The man paid for his seat and was just sitting there but they overbooked the flight, so they asked him to "volunteer" his seat and when he refused they attacked him and dragged his bloodied body out like a corpse on TWD.

He's also a doctor who had to go treat patients the next day. He even told them but they still wanted to kick him off.

in a perfect world, this guy is going to have a greater networth than United does in the not too distant future. but I'm not holding my breath
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FroMan posted...

Can some one sum up for me why this airplane kerfuffle is news right now? From what I've gathered it sounds like a man was asked to get off a plane, he refused, so they removed him. Sounds fair to me.

Flight was fully booked. United wanted to replace passengers with employees that were slated to work on a flight in another state. Passengers did not want to accept offer of $800 and hotel stay for leaving voluntarily. United runs lottery to decide who gets forced off of flight. Lottery falls on the doctor who was supposed to be at a hospital the next morning. Doctor tries to refuse, so United called security to rough him up before taking him off of flight instead. CEO lies about situation.

The end.
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I heard you can't be asked for give up your spot on a plane after you've already boarded so wondering how they plan to skirt the law on this one.
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Also, and it's sad that it's come to this, but the look of pure anguish and defeat on the guy's face as his lifeless body was dragged down the aisle made for good meme material. Plus "Fly the Friendly Skies", the irony was too great ignore.
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Paragon21XX posted...

FroMan posted...

Can some one sum up for me why this airplane kerfuffle is news right now? From what I've gathered it sounds like a man was asked to get off a plane, he refused, so they removed him. Sounds fair to me.

Flight was fully booked. United wanted to replace passengers with employees that were slated to work on a flight in another state. Passengers did not want to accept offer of $800 and hotel stay for leaving voluntarily. United runs lottery to decide who gets forced off of flight. Lottery falls on the doctor who was supposed to be at a hospital the next morning. Doctor tries to refuse, so United called security to rough him up before taking him off of flight instead. CEO lies about situation.

The end.

In addition, 1) he wasn't just roughed up, he was concussed and bleeding, to the extent that (after the police managed to lose track of him) he re-boarded the plane confused and bleeding saying that he needs to get home, 2) he had patients that he needed to see back home and 3) the airline tried to orchestrate the whole bumping people off the plane thing after everyone had already boarded.

DarthAragorn posted...

Darmik posted...

FroMan posted...

Can some one sum up for me why this airplane kerfuffle is news right now? From what I've gathered it sounds like a man was asked to get off a plane, he refused, so they removed him. Sounds fair to me.

There's nothing fair about being forced to disembark from your plane despite having a valid ticket you paid for.

Depending on what actually happened, sure there is

I haven't read about this at all though

I should have clarified. They had no reason for that specific passenger to leave. They just wanted his seat.
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SpiralDrift posted...

Also, and it's sad that it's come to this, but the look of pure anguish and defeat on the guy's face as his lifeless body was dragged down the aisle made for good meme material. Plus "Fly the Friendly Skies", the irony was too great ignore.

loling right now
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clearaflagrantj posted...

United CEO doubles down, says passenger was 'disruptive and belligerent'

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FroMan posted...

Can some one sum up for me why this airplane kerfuffle is news right now? From what I've gathered it sounds like a man was asked to get off a plane, he refused, so they removed him. Sounds fair to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv3uW9kQW1M&spfreload=10

In short, United wanted to get a few of their employees on the full plane, but no one wanted to give up their seat. So, United had security/police escorts people off. The doctor, who apparently had to get home to see patients in the morning, refused to get off. So, they beat his ass and dragged him off by force.

And now United is choosing to downplay the incident and make the passenger look like the bad guy.
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Meanwhile, apparently, Delta is giving inconvenienced passengers free pizza.
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This is a practice that is somewhat common in the industry, unfortunately. Most of the time things do not transpire to what we've witnessed in this incident. I'm sure the airline regrets what has happened (too little too late, though)

I'm not an aviation expert, but I do know that airlines operate under small margins and consistently overbook flights to compensate for no shows. Jet fuel alone on any given flight costs thousands.
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Capn Circus posted...

This is a practice that is somewhat common in the industry, unfortunately. Most of the time things do not transpire to what we've witnessed in this incident. I'm sure the airline regrets what has happened (too little too late, though)

I'm not an aviation expert, but I do know that airlines operate under small margins and consistently overbook flights to compensate for no shows. Jet fuel alone on any given flight costs thousands.

This lawsuit is going to cost them a lot more than that.
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wolverinev2 posted...

This lawsuit is going to cost them a lot more than that.

You underestimate the unholy soul sucking demons from the darkets, firey pits of hell's lowest circle known as "Corporate LAwyers"
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what kind of moron no shows a flight anyway, they aren't cheap

And sometimes, they have to dump thousands of dollars worth of jet fuel to return back to airports during engine failure (pretty interesting watch)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEf35NtlBLg
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FroMan posted...

Can some one sum up for me why this airplane kerfuffle is news right now? From what I've gathered it sounds like a man was asked to get off a plane, he refused, so they removed him. Sounds fair to me.

https://twitter.com/kaylyn_davis/status/851480498186485760


Fair indeed.
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If they don't have open seats they need to just shell out the money for their people to get on a different flight from a rival company or some crap.
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Honestly, heres the truth... United is a budget airline and they're already running on razor thin margins. If you want to fly cheap then overbooking is the risk you take. At most, these people should get a refund and nothing more. Of course we live in the age of entitlement so people think they're special and don't have to follow the rules of security personnel. This guy must think he's the only doctor in the world capable of doing his job. He's obviously not even a good doctor if he's flying budget in the first place. He wasn't needed anywhere near as much as people are crying.

If he would have followed the god damned rules he wouldn't have gotten roughed up for causing a disturbance. Not only will he not get a dime, he better pray he isn't charged with creating a disturbance on an aircraft and barred from flying for life with multiple felony charges.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Honestly, United is a budget airline and they're already running on razor thin margins. If you want to fly cheap then overbooking is the risk you take. At most, these people should get a refund and nothing more. Of course we live in the age of entitlement so people think they're special and don't have to follow the rules of security personnel. This guy must think he's the only doctor in the world capable of doing his job. He's obviously not even a good doctor if he's flying budget in the first place. He wasn't needed anywhere near as much as people are crying.

If he would have followed the god damned rules he wouldn't have gotten roughed up for causing a disturbance. Not only will he not get a dime, he better pray he isn't charged with creating a disturbance on an aircraft and barred from flying for life with multiple felony charges.

Oh god you're serious.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Honestly, United is a budget airline and they're already running on razor thin margins. If you want to fly cheap then overbooking is the risk you take. At most, these people should get a refund and nothing more. Of course we live in the age of entitlement so people think they're special and don't have to follow the rules of security personnel. This guy must think he's the only doctor in the world capable of doing his job. He's obviously not even a good doctor if he's flying budget in the first place. He wasn't needed anywhere near as much as people are crying.

If he would have followed the god damned rules he wouldn't have gotten roughed up for causing a disturbance. Not only will he not get a dime, he better pray he isn't charged with creating a disturbance on an aircraft and barred from flying for life with multiple felony charges.

What I have you tagged as makes this post hilarious but i would get modded for sure and then I couldn't laugh at this post
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Wow, I never realised he was such a massive shit poster
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I also kinda find it weird that NO ONE was willing to give up their seat for 1k, a room and a flight to their destination. I know frequent vacationers who would've jumped at that
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BeantownHero posted...

I also kinda find it weird that NO ONE was willing to give up their seat for 1k, a room and a flight to their destination. I know frequent vacationers who would've jumped at that

IF you're flying home, you tend to have to go back to a job.
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BeantownHero posted...

I also kinda find it weird that NO ONE was willing to give up their seat for 1k, a room and a flight to their destination. I know frequent vacationers who would've jumped at that

you do realize the "cash" is actually multiple $50 flight vouchers, which can't be used simultaneously and are only valid for 1 year from the date issued right?

gunplagirl posted...

What I have you tagged as makes this post hilarious but i would get modded for sure and then I couldn't laugh at this post

Sorry the truth hurts champ!!
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Honestly, heres the truth... United is a budget airline and they're already running on razor thin margins. If you want to fly cheap then overbooking is the risk you take. At most, these people should get a refund and nothing more. Of course we live in the age of entitlement so people think they're special and don't have to follow the rules of security personnel. This guy must think he's the only doctor in the world capable of doing his job. He's obviously not even a good doctor if he's flying budget in the first place. He wasn't needed anywhere near as much as people are crying.

If he would have followed the god damned rules he wouldn't have gotten roughed up for causing a disturbance. Not only will he not get a dime, he better pray he isn't charged with creating a disturbance on an aircraft and barred from flying for life with multiple felony charges.

I really hope this is all sarcasm.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Honestly, heres the truth... United is a budget airline and they're already running on razor thin margins. If you want to fly cheap then overbooking is the risk you take. At most, these people should get a refund and nothing more. Of course we live in the age of entitlement so people think they're special and don't have to follow the rules of security personnel. This guy must think he's the only doctor in the world capable of doing his job. He's obviously not even a good doctor if he's flying budget in the first place. He wasn't needed anywhere near as much as people are crying.

If he would have followed the god damned rules he wouldn't have gotten roughed up for causing a disturbance. Not only will he not get a dime, he better pray he isn't charged with creating a disturbance on an aircraft and barred from flying for life with multiple felony charges.

Is this real? Can someone out there actually see this situation like this?
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Lightsasori posted...

I really hope this is all sarcasm.

Ok tbh I can't walk away from this topic letting people think I believe any of that stupid shit and I need to go to bed soon. Honestly I'm surprised a few people aren't sharp enough to see through such a blatantly obvious shitpost. I mean, that post was bleeding with blatantly unapologetic bait. Come on guys... I copied half of that from a YouTube comments section shitpost. Minimum effort.

On topic, I wish that poor bastard could sue them into bankruptcy.
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shnangyboos posted...

Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Honestly, heres the truth... United is a budget airline and they're already running on razor thin margins. If you want to fly cheap then overbooking is the risk you take. At most, these people should get a refund and nothing more. Of course we live in the age of entitlement so people think they're special and don't have to follow the rules of security personnel. This guy must think he's the only doctor in the world capable of doing his job. He's obviously not even a good doctor if he's flying budget in the first place. He wasn't needed anywhere near as much as people are crying.

If he would have followed the god damned rules he wouldn't have gotten roughed up for causing a disturbance. Not only will he not get a dime, he better pray he isn't charged with creating a disturbance on an aircraft and barred from flying for life with multiple felony charges.

Is this real? Can someone out there actually see this situation like this?

well he does make good points. reals before feels yo.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Lightsasori posted...

I really hope this is all sarcasm.

Ok tbh I can't walk away from this topic letting people think I believe any of that stupid shit and I need to go to bed soon. Honestly I'm surprised people aren't sharp enough to see through such a blatantly obvious shitpost. I mean, that post was bleeding with blatantly unapologetic bait. Come on guys... I copied half of that from a YouTube comments section shitpost. Minimum effort.

On topic, I wish that poor bastard could sue them into bankruptcy.

Okay thanks for the clarification. Poes law and all. I can sleep better at night now lol
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Lightsasori posted...

I really hope this is all sarcasm.

Ok tbh I can't walk away from this topic letting people think I believe any of that stupid shit and I need to go to bed soon. Honestly I'm surprised a few people aren't sharp enough to see through such a blatantly obvious shitpost. I mean, that post was bleeding with blatantly unapologetic bait. Come on guys... I copied half of that from a YouTube comments section shitpost. Minimum effort.

On topic, I wish that poor bastard could sue them into bankruptcy.

Don't bait the hook if you can't fight with the catch.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Lightsasori posted...

I really hope this is all sarcasm.

Ok tbh I can't walk away from this topic letting people think I believe any of that stupid shit and I need to go to bed soon. Honestly I'm surprised a few people aren't sharp enough to see through such a blatantly obvious shitpost. I mean, that post was bleeding with blatantly unapologetic bait. Come on guys... I copied half of that from a YouTube comments section shitpost. Minimum effort.

On topic, I wish that poor bastard could sue them into bankruptcy.

Aghhhhhh HAHA. What a complete fail.
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I saw a video of the guy after they pretty much whooped his ass. And it wasn't like they were like "Sir, can you please come with us." and gently walked him out. He was pretty much bloodied like they beat the shit out of him, and then in the video he was completely dazed and concussed.

Also, a follow up has been shown to have them throw the Air Martial's under the bus for doing that shit.
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That damage control lol

GG. United
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I always hated United anyway and this just enforces my hate of that company

I avoid them like a plague as much as I can
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Dragonblade01 posted...

Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Lightsasori posted...

I really hope this is all sarcasm.

Ok tbh I can't walk away from this topic letting people think I believe any of that stupid shit and I need to go to bed soon. Honestly I'm surprised a few people aren't sharp enough to see through such a blatantly obvious shitpost. I mean, that post was bleeding with blatantly unapologetic bait. Come on guys... I copied half of that from a YouTube comments section shitpost. Minimum effort.

On topic, I wish that poor bastard could sue them into bankruptcy.

Don't bait the hook if you can't fight with the catch.

I can't sleep well with a guilty conscience homie. I just wanted to make people chuckle, I never expected anyone to actually take that seriously lol.
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