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edwardsdv
01/30/12 9:30:00 PM
#201:


From: JaKyL25 | #199
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I wish they had gotten a better shot of that.


Punk such a liar...he said he'd GTS anyone who shook his hand.

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TheRock1525
01/30/12 9:33:00 PM
#202:


Cena drops Rock to face Taker.
Sheamus challenges Zack Ryder for the Internet Championship.
Jericho is literally the Anti-Christ.
Punk takes on Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, great promos overwhelm the audience.

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FFDragon
01/30/12 9:34:00 PM
#203:


JaKyL25 posted...
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I wish they had gotten a better shot of that.


They also started their match by following the Code of Honor!

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Wanglicious
01/30/12 9:36:00 PM
#204:


knew that orton gif from the title, so good.
also take hhh as gm.

hhh in boring wm match will involve many more promos, guests, and totally kill raw as we spend half its time on hhh until wm, where he will then take over as gm anyway.


at least as gm he'll only get half an hour. the real mystery to this is what they do with foley. foley made sense as GM.

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DeathChicken
01/30/12 9:42:00 PM
#205:


Hey, it's HHH and Undertaker

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 9:51:00 PM
#206:


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Actually kinda makes the angle of the shot WWE got work.

They're mirrored from before, and they even color co-ordinated oppositely from that match.
...that can't be intentional, can it?

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Wanglicious
01/30/12 9:58:00 PM
#207:


black shorts to blue trunks!
but they prob remember roh well enough. i don't think the dragon wearing red bit to reverse 'em was intentional. but handshakes, sure.

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SmartMuffin
01/30/12 9:58:00 PM
#208:


I thought the "matchup" screen of CHAMPION VS CHAMPION showing the two of them was the best.

If you could go back in time and show that to ROH fans, nobody would ever believe you.

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LongIslandIcedZ
01/30/12 9:59:00 PM
#209:


I suddenly have an urge to do an angle where the US title gets replaced with the European title.

The man to do it? Lets just say he's very European

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 9:59:00 PM
#210:


From: Wanglicious | #207
black shorts to blue trunks!


Punk had blue trunks on underneath the black shorts!

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Wanglicious
01/30/12 10:02:00 PM
#211:


...then it probably was.
>___>

wouldn't put it past either of them.

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Wanglicious
01/30/12 10:02:00 PM
#212:


also clearly this means blue = BEST IN THE WORLD.

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Panthera
01/30/12 10:02:00 PM
#213:


Yeah aside from the ending tonight's Raw was actually pretty enjoyable

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 10:07:00 PM
#214:


From: Wanglicious | #212
also clearly this means blue = BEST IN THE WORLD.


No way, Bryan won the match tonight!

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 10:34:00 PM
#215:


Bret Hart @BretHart
Kudos to both @CMPunk and @WWEDanielBryan. Good match

Bret Hart making the effort to praise other people is notable!

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Wanglicious
01/30/12 10:55:00 PM
#216:


i seriously never thought the day when yelling YES
YES
YES
YES
YES
YES
(etc)

would become a gimmick in wwe, but it is. with random WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION inserted at times, to not be completely monotonous. i mean jericho was stealin' that last week!


but seriously, i don't know who made this gimmick but man. awesome.
in other news, is anyone else confused how ace is still heel. like is this an experiment in 'how hard can punk bury somebody' or something. yeah, ace did two big heel things - ryder match with kane and punk screwjob story (which ultimately include ziggler's wins whoops) - but he was quite fair and just to a lot of everyone else. he screwed over the heels, he screwed over the faces. tendency leaned a bit more to the heel side but not exclusively and was more of a smark way than anything else. dude was pretty damn fine. like at the start of this it seemed like what hhh was saying - here was a guy who backstabbed his boss to get his position.

....except he didn't. in fact, he was the only one who didn't screw hhh. he warned hhh in advance that he needed to be more management-like (which is undeniably true and even he'll admit it) then the vote of no confidence bit happened. after that he took control. now at this point the story seemed like ace had been planning all along to get the position. y'know, the CONSPIRACY angle that truth started, then miz joined, then punk joined too before lawler did too. 'there is a force that does not want hhh as boss.'

that force looked to be johnny ace. and then the angle was dropped, nash came in, a different angle was run, truth got wellness'd, and the conspiracy that APPEARED as if it would lead to a major faction split of some kind never happened. nothing happened with it. instead ace got put into the GM position and has been pretty damn good at it. it's clear they had a storyline and for some reason through everything away to leave us where we are now. awesome truth + ace would've been a start, but you could've had others join too, like del rio, ziggler, swagger, etc. y'know, the group of 5 or so heels that got together to try to take hhh out of power? perfect group for a brand-crossing conspiracy. hell, you even have the means to kill it within the group itself, truth eventually realizing that he IS the conspiracy and decides he wants to kill it. or that he'll join it to kill it from within. gets you what that's different? face truth. like, y'know. what we have now.

now yes, del rio and christian are injured. so? use that as a statement of 'we've got positions to fill, ziggler's trying to fill in, are you interested' to some guys. pitch offers to have them join. actively recruit them.



but none of that's the case. instead we have dropped angles into ace and..... nothing really majorly negative that he's done that's had any impact, save for ryder's match with kane.

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ScareChan
01/30/12 10:57:00 PM
#217:


So my DVR cut off right before Trips started to fire Laurinitis and then TAKER

Had to see it on WWE.com



I see a wayyyyyyyyyy better and actually AMAZING angle they could take this with Trips turning it down. Instead of him saying his personal stuff is set aside and he is ready to GM so thats why he turned Taker down he turned it down because he now knows he can't beat Taker. Its going to be a reverse on HBK going crazy he can't beat Taker. He's going to go crazy because he knows he CAN'T. He gave EVERYTHING he had last year and even had his Sledge hammer and he TAPPED because he didnt HAVE IT IN HIM. He can't go back and try it again because he knows it's not in him to do it. What I LOVED is that if you watch the video again the music Taker's music hits there is a very small gasp reaction from Taker and then he puts on Gameface. I absolutely believe that was an intentional thing and not just Trips reaction to what was going on, as usually when someones music hits they just go straight to gameface. There was an small instance where Trips showed fear hearing Taker's music. The look in Taker's eyes although distant was very intense in an odd way.

I was not a fan of last years match but this got me hyped again

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ScareChan
01/30/12 10:59:00 PM
#218:


Also I think Punk retains, Bryan loses, Sheamus goes for WHC. Jericho goes after Punk and Bryan has a clause in his MITB contract that he gets a rematch at either title and he inserts himself into that match. Jericho, Punk, Bryan. Lets do it.

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 10:59:00 PM
#219:




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Wanglicious
01/30/12 11:01:00 PM
#220:


....a reverse hbk thing sounds dumb honestly. 'oh no i can't beat you' 'yes you can' 'but i did everything.' 'you didn't try hard enough, you could've done it!'

like, what. why would anyone run that storyline. it can sorta work with a student/mentor thing where the mentor's pushing on the student to try again, but something like that here? doesn't make sense. the only thing that does is further inflate hhh's ego that he's the greatest of all t--
oh.

welps, guess that's the storyline.

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Wanglicious
01/30/12 11:03:00 PM
#221:


i fully await the day the audio is replaced with dragon doing it.

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:03:00 PM
#222:


There's no payoff to it but, "The Streak is finished because no one wants to fight Taker anymore" is kind of a funny way to twist the whole thing around.

Taker: "PLEASE SOMEONE FIGHT ME! I WANT 20-0!"

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ScareChan
01/30/12 11:04:00 PM
#223:


From: Wanglicious | #220
....a reverse hbk thing sounds dumb honestly. 'oh no i can't beat you' 'yes you can' 'but i did everything.' 'you didn't try hard enough, you could've done it!'

like, what. why would anyone run that storyline. it can sorta work with a student/mentor thing where the mentor's pushing on the student to try again, but something like that here? doesn't make sense. the only thing that does is further inflate hhh's ego that he's the greatest of all t--
oh.

welps, guess that's the storyline.




Uh because its not Taker thats the mentor, it's HBK that comes back and says "I said you couldn't do it last year, but I saw something in you that you can do it." So it goes with HBK pushing for him to do it because he couldnt and to get his match Taker goes and tombstones HBK.

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Lopen
01/30/12 11:04:00 PM
#224:


I was more thinking reverse HBK as in

"You gave me a challenge I like that. Let's fight again."
"No I'm the boss now"
"fff"

Or

"You've got too big an ego for someone who lost. I want a rematch so I can defeat you more soundly"
"No I'm the boss now"
"ffff"

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:07:00 PM
#225:


Maybe Tom is right and this isn't leading to Triple H vs. Taker.

Every week from now until WM Taker tries this schtick on a different person, getting more and more desperate each time, but they all rebuff him.

Cut to NXT the last week of March, when he's interrupting Bateman and Maxine's wedding and staring back and forth between the WM sign and a really confused Bateman.

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ScareChan
01/30/12 11:08:00 PM
#226:


From: JaKyL25 | #225
Maybe Tom is right and this isn't leading to Triple H vs. Taker.

Every week from now until WM Taker tries this schtick on a different person, getting more and more desperate each time, but they all rebuff him.

Cut to NXT the last week of March, when he's interrupting Bateman and Maxine's wedding and staring back and forth between the WM sign and a really confused Bateman.




And instead of intense distant eyes Taker has big puppy dog eyes

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ScareChan
01/30/12 11:08:00 PM
#227:


If it goes that route it has to end with No one in the company will face you cue Sexy Boy

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Wanglicious
01/30/12 11:10:00 PM
#228:


Uh because its not Taker thats the mentor, it's HBK that comes back and says "I said you couldn't do it last year, but I saw something in you that you can do it." So it goes with HBK pushing for him to do it because he couldnt and to get his match Taker goes and tombstones HBK.

this is *still* exclusively the situation of 'we are inflating hhh's ego so hard even people on mars can see it.'

this is a man who LITERALLY wanted to do a one man show and was cheered. it is incredibly dumb to make him like wwe's neo.


i mean the more i think about it the more i'm frightened it's the most logical thing they'll do based on booking, but that doesn't make it any better because it's a horrible thing.

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edwardsdv
01/30/12 11:11:00 PM
#229:


From: JaKyL25 | #222
There's no payoff to it but, "The Streak is finished because no one wants to fight Taker anymore" is kind of a funny way to twist the whole thing around.

Taker: "PLEASE SOMEONE FIGHT ME! I WANT 20-0!"


I like it if only because it opens it up to a hungry young heel to demand the match as a chance to prov the belong ora chance to star in the "real" main event. Del Rio would be my first pick for the role but in his absence,(wang disagrees strongly) but I feel like the Miz fits here perfectly.

He's hungry, hes young hes brash. He just pulled out the Iron man performance of the rumble and he DESPERATELY wants to feel like he hasn't lost a step since last year. As a bonus his brawl-heavy style would work well with what Taker can realistically do at this point.

I personally would be VERY interesting in the Miz trying to get into the head of the Undertaker or take on a series of escalating challenges to prove he "belongs" in that match. Even in failure, a really strong showing could put him over big time and maybe even turn him face if so desired.

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:11:00 PM
#230:


Everyone refuses. Taker has no match.

MitB match at WM happens
Middle of the match: GONG <lights out>
<lights on> "The briefcase...it disappeared!"

Later in the night Sheamus wins the title and Taker cashes in.

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Wanglicious
01/30/12 11:15:00 PM
#231:


haha. now i can dig the 'no competition wants me whoops' angle. only the people he goes to have to prove themselves in a match first. of which he'd proceed to beat the up and comers who want in, sheamus too. kane would just laugh him off saying he's got better to do than a try at futility or something, and that'd leave us down to cena, orton, and punk. orton is busy with wade, cena with rock. and.... if this is punk/jericho there's that. but it's open enough that you could do punk/dragon too because it's not like jericho's getting boo'd ever. punk/taker certainly wouldn't be bad. he'd have to superman the EC. and if punk really wants to ME WM, that's certainly a match that could do it.

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:16:00 PM
#232:


But yeah, that moment of hesitation Triple H had when he was about to exit the stage made it perfectly clear that this story is merely a story about Triple H vs. himself, his desire for personal glory vs. the good of the company.

Taker is just a plot device.

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Wanglicious
01/30/12 11:18:00 PM
#233:


stop it jakyl. i am fine with plot devicium taker so long as it's hhh taking the high road and doing what's good for the company.

no i did not type that with a straight face.

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:19:00 PM
#234:


Don't worry, I'm sure we'll come to some resolution where the Board of Directors rules that Triple H vs. Taker at WM is good for the company so he can move forward on it without regret.

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Wanglicious
01/30/12 11:24:00 PM
#235:


YOU WILL BE WRONG ON THIS.
EVEN IF THE UNIVERSE MUST END.

....

oh dear god, jericho's taking out hhh before WM, forcing him to miss the show. and he'll do so on orders from hhh's wife.

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:29:00 PM
#236:


Did we ever figure out what exactly Taker was PLANNING last year in kayfabe?

3 weeks of mysterious promos, a countdown timer, and then when it ended, he just walked out to the ring.

Then Triple H came out and challenged him for WM with AWKWARD NON-VERBAL COMMUNICATION~! but there's no way Taker could have known that would happen.

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ScareChan
01/30/12 11:33:00 PM
#237:


He probably came out to say that there is no challenge left for him at Mania and he would retire. Which is why he started to brush off Trips

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:37:00 PM
#238:


3 weeks of mysterious promos and a countdown timer just to ANNOUNCE HIS RETIREMENT?

Arrogant douche!

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ScareChan
01/30/12 11:39:00 PM
#239:


Name someone that isnt HBK or Flair that could pull it off besides Taker


And Trips doesnt count either because he would still end up fighting someone

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GTM
01/30/12 11:42:00 PM
#240:


he was going to announce his match with Sting

then Triple H wouldn't have any of that

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Wanglicious
01/30/12 11:43:00 PM
#241:


jericho.

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GTM
01/30/12 11:44:00 PM
#242:


and now I'm picturing Sting at the gorilla position waiting to come out, the triple h shows up and has some AWKWARD NON-VERBAL COMMUNICATION~! then walks out to his music shortly after

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Wanglicious
01/30/12 11:47:00 PM
#243:


other guys who could pull that off would be your standard assortment of 'you've been since forever.' show, kane, mysterio. hell, cena soon. only problem they have is the same one hbk/flair do - no element of mystery to 'em.

leaving jericho who's the obvious answer considering we had months of mysterious promos and a countdown timer already. >__>;

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:47:00 PM
#244:


Man, I still can't believe Sting chose to ride out the end of his career in TNA over a huge WM match with Undertaker, a cushy retirement, a Legends contract, and 2012 HoF honors.

I mean, we don't KNOW that any of that was on the table, but if you're WWE and you see the reactions to people begging for Sting vs. Taker after that first video aired, you gotta throw everything you can at the guy to make it happen.

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:48:00 PM
#245:


A huge WM match with Undertaker IN ATLANTA no less.

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voltch
01/31/12 3:52:00 AM
#246:


Instead his achilles tendon is ****ed.

Well at any rate Miami Mania is going to be staaaacked,

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SmartMuffin
01/31/12 6:33:00 AM
#247:


Best moment ever would be Punk and Dragon in the ring arguing over who the best wrestler in the world is, only to be interrupted by...



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JaKyL25
01/31/12 7:30:00 AM
#248:


He'd be Wellness'd before he even made it to the ring.

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JaKyL25
01/31/12 9:34:00 AM
#249:


#HelpingDanteGetIntoIndieWrestling

Kevin Steen @KILLSTEENKILL
Not a bad Rumble in the end, although it did lack some Vince McMahon blowing his quads out, in my opinion. Sheamus winning it is good stuff.

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Dauntless Hunter
01/31/12 9:37:00 AM
#250:


From: Wanglicious | #220
....a reverse hbk thing sounds dumb honestly. 'oh no i can't beat you' 'yes you can' 'but i did everything.' 'you didn't try hard enough, you could've done it!'

like, what. why would anyone run that storyline. it can sorta work with a student/mentor thing where the mentor's pushing on the student to try again, but something like that here? doesn't make sense. the only thing that does is further inflate hhh's ego that he's the greatest of all t--
oh.

welps, guess that's the storyline.


And then when Undertaker is trying to celebrate 20-0, Triple H can be like "I TOLD you I couldn't win! I didn't even want to fight you! What's the matter with you?!"

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