Board 8 > FFXIII-2 apparently features the opposite of linear hallway dungeons.

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Anagram 01/07/12 10:44:00 AM #1:	Remember how people complained that FFXIII was a series of hallways? Well check out Square's response to that criticism in the sequel (no spoilers, don't worry). http://www.gamezone.com/news/final-fantasy-xiii-2-too-complex-for-japanese-gamers I honestly laughed when I saw that first map. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:640057] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Remember how people complained that FFXIII was a series of hallways? Well check out Square's response to that criticism in the sequel (no spoilers, don't worry).http://www.gamezone.com/news/final-fantasy-xiii-2-too-complex-for-japanese-gamersI honestly laughed when I saw that first map. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingBartz 01/07/12 10:47:00 AM #2:	Doesn't look that complex to me. -- SuperNiceDog? More like GuruNiceDog. <cite>KingBartz posted [p:640058] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Doesn't look that complex to me. -- SuperNiceDog? More like GuruNiceDog. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Weakupedia 01/07/12 10:50:00 AM #3:	it's dawned on me the square no longer has any clue what they're doing -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe <cite>Weakupedia posted [p:640059] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> it's dawned on me the square no longer has any clue what they're doing -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 01/07/12 10:51:00 AM #4:	That's just taking narrow corridors and giving them a lot of branches. There's no real pathfinding to it unless you accidentally get turned around and don't realize it somehow. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:640060] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> That's just taking narrow corridors and giving them a lot of branches. There's no real pathfinding to it unless you accidentally get turned around and don't realize it somehow. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."-Toad, SMB3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Senjougaharaism 01/07/12 10:53:00 AM #5:	looks cool to me -- DON~! <cite>Senjougaharaism posted [p:640061] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> looks cool to me -- DON~! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadosneko 01/07/12 10:55:00 AM #6:	From: Anagram \| #001 I honestly laughed when I saw that first map. What in the **? That is... welp. -- http://backloggery.com/shados http://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko <cite>shadosneko posted [p:640062] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: Anagram \| #001I honestly laughed when I saw that first map.What in the **?That is... welp. -- http://backloggery.com/shadoshttp://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/07/12 10:55:00 AM #7:	What the hell am I looking at? If those are dead ends as they appear to be, this is even stupider than what they had before. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i53.tinypic.com/2hpufbd.png <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:640063] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> What the hell am I looking at?If those are dead ends as they appear to be, this is even stupider than what they had before. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i53.tinypic.com/2hpufbd.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wg64Z 01/07/12 10:56:00 AM #8:	I don't see a problem here. <cite>wg64Z posted [p:640064] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> I don't see a problem here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 01/07/12 10:56:00 AM #9:	Nothing wrong with a little exploring! As long as the battles aren't a chore. We'll find out soon enough. -- Black: 3310-7431-2094 <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:640065] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Nothing wrong with a little exploring! As long as the battles aren't a chore. We'll find out soon enough. -- Black: 3310-7431-2094 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 01/07/12 10:58:00 AM #10:	Spoilers guys, this is exactly what the classic games were. I can draw maps for comparison if you're curious. This is a plus, not a negative. Don't be scared nancys. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:640066] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Spoilers guys, this is exactly what the classic games were. I can draw maps for comparison if you're curious. This is a plus, not a negative. Don't be scared nancys. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/07/12 10:59:00 AM #11:	From: KanzarisKelshen \| #010 Spoilers guys, this is exactly what the classic games were. I can draw maps for comparison if you're curious. This is a plus, not a negative. Don't be scared nancys. No. The pointless branch-offs were much shorter and less numerous. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police I assure you, my dear, all Ace Detectives are perfect gentlemen! <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:640067] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: KanzarisKelshen \| #010Spoilers guys, this is exactly what the classic games were. I can draw maps for comparison if you're curious. This is a plus, not a negative. Don't be scared nancys.No. The pointless branch-offs were much shorter and less numerous. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' PoliceI assure you, my dear, all Ace Detectives are perfect gentlemen! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/07/12 10:59:00 AM #12:	From: kevwaffles \| #004 That's just taking narrow corridors and giving them a lot of branches. There's no real pathfinding to it unless you accidentally get turned around and don't realize it somehow. Hint: Most FF dungeons are exactly like this. FFXIII-2 isn't doing anything previous FF games didn't do. -- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:640068] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: kevwaffles \| #004That's just taking narrow corridors and giving them a lot of branches. There's no real pathfinding to it unless you accidentally get turned around and don't realize it somehow.Hint: Most FF dungeons are exactly like this.FFXIII-2 isn't doing anything previous FF games didn't do. -- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/07/12 11:00:00 AM #13:	From: Rad Link 5 \| #011 No. The pointless branch-offs were much shorter and less numerous. Well, this is what happens when so many people complain about 'it's so linear!' You get the other end of the spectrum! -- http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8516/whatisdesiresig.gif <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:640069] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: Rad Link 5 \| #011No. The pointless branch-offs were much shorter and less numerous.Well, this is what happens when so many people complain about 'it's so linear!'You get the other end of the spectrum! -- http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8516/whatisdesiresig.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Whiskey_Nick 01/07/12 11:01:00 AM #14:	those maps are not worse than some of the stuff they came up with for FFXI Yuhtunga and Yhoater Jungles for example were hell holes -- Not changing this sig until the Bengals, Bills, Browns and Lions win the Super Bowl (10/10/10) The most American Canadian on Board 8 - #9 Bro on Board 8 <cite>Whiskey_Nick posted [p:640070] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> those maps are not worse than some of the stuff they came up with for FFXIYuhtunga and Yhoater Jungles for example were hell holes -- Not changing this sig until the Bengals, Bills, Browns and Lions win the Super Bowl (10/10/10)The most American Canadian on Board 8 - #9 Bro on Board 8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadosneko 01/07/12 11:01:00 AM #15:	How about we just have a JRPG where every area is accessible from the start on the world map and the only thing stopping you from going there are the levels of the monsters? That'd be cool. -- http://backloggery.com/shados http://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko <cite>shadosneko posted [p:640071] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> How about we just have a JRPG where every area is accessible from the start on the world map and the only thing stopping you from going there are the levels of the monsters?That'd be cool. -- http://backloggery.com/shadoshttp://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 01/07/12 11:02:00 AM #16:	*LeonhartFour posted...* From: Rad Link 5 \| #011 No. The pointless branch-offs were much shorter and less numerous. Well, this is what happens when so many people complain about 'it's so linear!' You get the other end of the spectrum! Do developers not know what subtlety or a happy medium is? Jeez. Any fool can tell you that the extreme side of anything is never good. -- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. The guru champ isn't such a SuperNiceDog, he made me change my sig! <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:640072] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> LeonhartFour posted...From: Rad Link 5 \| #011No. The pointless branch-offs were much shorter and less numerous.Well, this is what happens when so many people complain about 'it's so linear!'You get the other end of the spectrum!Do developers not know what subtlety or a happy medium is? Jeez. Any fool can tell you that the extreme side of anything is never good. -- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism.The guru champ isn't such a SuperNiceDog, he made me change my sig! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/07/12 11:04:00 AM #17:	Well, I agree it's pretty stupid to try to swing to the other end to appease fans. But either way, what XIII-2 is doing isn't that much different from other JRPGs. -- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:640073] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Well, I agree it's pretty stupid to try to swing to the other end to appease fans.But either way, what XIII-2 is doing isn't that much different from other JRPGs. -- "I can set you free, mate.""My freedom was forfeit long ago!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 01/07/12 11:06:00 AM #18:	From: LeonhartFour \| #012 Hint: Most FF dungeons are exactly like this. FFXIII-2 isn't doing anything previous FF games didn't do. FF1-5, maybe. FF6-9, not at all. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:640074] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: LeonhartFour \| #012Hint: Most FF dungeons are exactly like this.FFXIII-2 isn't doing anything previous FF games didn't do.FF1-5, maybe.FF6-9, not at all. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."-Toad, SMB3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 01/07/12 11:07:00 AM #19:	From: Rad Link 5 \| #011 No. The pointless branch-offs were much shorter and less numerous. Hell no. You might not have played Xenogears, but the Deus dungeon makes this look like a total cakewalk. Same with Terra Tower, Galbadia Garden, Ultimecia's Castle, the Temple of the Ancients, and more, never mind Vagrant Story, which is true hardcore map **. Your memory is damn faulty. From: shadosneko \| #015 How about we just have a JRPG where every area is accessible from the start on the world map and the only thing stopping you from going there are the levels of the monsters? That'd be cool. That was Chrono Cross. You might have hated it. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:640075] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: Rad Link 5 \| #011No. The pointless branch-offs were much shorter and less numerous.Hell no. You might not have played Xenogears, but the Deus dungeon makes this look like a total cakewalk. Same with Terra Tower, Galbadia Garden, Ultimecia's Castle, the Temple of the Ancients, and more, never mind Vagrant Story, which is true hardcore map **. Your memory is damn faulty.From: shadosneko \| #015How about we just have a JRPG where every area is accessible from the start on the world map and the only thing stopping you from going there are the levels of the monsters?That'd be cool.That was Chrono Cross. You might have hated it. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skull_bonek23 01/07/12 11:07:00 AM #20:	*shadosneko posted...* How about we just have a JRPG where every area is accessible from the start on the world map and the only thing stopping you from going there are the levels of the monsters? That'd be cool. FFXII kinda did that -- skull <cite>skull_bonek23 posted [p:640076] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> shadosneko posted...How about we just have a JRPG where every area is accessible from the start on the world map and the only thing stopping you from going there are the levels of the monsters?That'd be cool.FFXII kinda did that -- skull </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/07/12 11:09:00 AM #21:	I mean just look at the first map. If you want to explore all of the pointless branch-off hallways, you have to backtrack through the same hallways like twenty times. That's just ***ing ridiculous. Someone trying to get 100% could spend way too many hours in just that one dungeon, unless some of those hallways have nothing in them, in which case someone without a guide could spend way too many hours exploring absolutely empty hallways. The only remedy to this is if you move extremely* fast in this game, in which case someone just trying to get through the dungeon and ignore all the exploration would get through the dungeon way too fast. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police This place feels like Cheers. - smitelf discussing Board 8 <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:640077] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> I mean just look at the first map. If you want to explore all of the pointless branch-off hallways, you have to backtrack through the same hallways like twenty times. That's just ****ing ridiculous. Someone trying to get 100% could spend way too many hours in just that one dungeon, unless some of those hallways have nothing in them, in which case someone without a guide could spend way too many hours exploring absolutely empty hallways. The only remedy to this is if you move extremely fast in this game, in which case someone just trying to get through the dungeon and ignore all the exploration would get through the dungeon way too fast. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' PoliceThis place feels like Cheers. - smitelf discussing Board 8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 01/07/12 11:11:00 AM #22:	From: Rad Link 5 \| #021 I mean just look at the first map. If you want to explore all of the pointless branch-off hallways, you have to backtrack through the same hallways like twenty times. That's just ***ing ridiculous. Someone trying to get 100% could spend way too many hours in just that one dungeon, unless some of those hallways have nothing in them, in which case someone without a guide could spend way too many hours exploring absolutely empty hallways. The only remedy to this is if you move extremely* fast in this game, in which case someone just trying to get through the dungeon and ignore all the exploration would get through the dungeon way too fast. Again: Deus. You lose. Leá Monde. You lose again. This isn't a complicated map. You just grew less skiiled at games and less patient as you aged. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:640078] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: Rad Link 5 \| #021I mean just look at the first map. If you want to explore all of the pointless branch-off hallways, you have to backtrack through the same hallways like twenty times. That's just ****ing ridiculous. Someone trying to get 100% could spend way too many hours in just that one dungeon, unless some of those hallways have nothing in them, in which case someone without a guide could spend way too many hours exploring absolutely empty hallways. The only remedy to this is if you move extremely fast in this game, in which case someone just trying to get through the dungeon and ignore all the exploration would get through the dungeon way too fast.Again: Deus. You lose. Leá Monde. You lose again. This isn't a complicated map. You just grew less skiiled at games and less patient as you aged. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transcience 01/07/12 11:11:00 AM #23:	the thing that scares me with 13-2 is how reactionary the whole thing is. it feels like a game being designed based on criticism more than an honest attempt at making a game. that said, the dungeon looks fine -- add the c and back away iphonesience <cite>transcience posted [p:640079] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> the thing that scares me with 13-2 is how reactionary the whole thing is. it feels like a game being designed based on criticism more than an honest attempt at making a game. that said, the dungeon looks fine -- add the c and back awayiphonesience </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/07/12 11:14:00 AM #24:	From: KanzarisKelshen \| #022 Again: Deus. You lose. Leá Monde. You lose again. This isn't a complicated map. You just grew less skiiled at games and less patient as you aged. Ahahaha, old school trolling. I like that. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i53.tinypic.com/o0ce3q.png <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:640080] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: KanzarisKelshen \| #022Again: Deus. You lose. Leá Monde. You lose again. This isn't a complicated map. You just grew less skiiled at games and less patient as you aged.Ahahaha, old school trolling. I like that. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i53.tinypic.com/o0ce3q.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 01/07/12 11:17:00 AM #25:	It's almost like no one here has ever played a RPG before. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch <cite>redrocket posted [p:640081] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> It's almost like no one here has ever played a RPG before. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 01/07/12 11:19:00 AM #26:	Kanz'D Time to stop posting here anyway. Posting in FFXIII topics gives people a false idea about what my username means -- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. The guru champ isn't such a SuperNiceDog, he made me change my sig! <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:640082] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Kanz'DTime to stop posting here anyway. Posting in FFXIII topics gives people a false idea about what my username means -- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism.The guru champ isn't such a SuperNiceDog, he made me change my sig! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SlymDayspring 01/07/12 11:19:00 AM #27:	how about people stop complaining until they play the game -- I'm "kind of a big deal". http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png <cite>SlymDayspring posted [p:640083] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> how about people stop complaining until they play the game -- I'm "kind of a big deal".http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/07/12 11:20:00 AM #28:	From: transcience \| #023 the thing that scares me with 13-2 is how reactionary the whole thing is. it feels like a game being designed based on criticism more than an honest attempt at making a game. Yeah, that's my main problem with XIII-2, honestly. The game looks fine, but it seems like the whole design process was "Fix what people complained about." We'll see how it works. -- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:640084] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: transcience \| #023the thing that scares me with 13-2 is how reactionary the whole thing is. it feels like a game being designed based on criticism more than an honest attempt at making a game.Yeah, that's my main problem with XIII-2, honestly. The game looks fine, but it seems like the whole design process was "Fix what people complained about." We'll see how it works. -- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SBell0105 01/07/12 11:23:00 AM #29:	Going into the game knowing next to nothing as I do all Final Fantasys. Its Final Fantasy, even the **iest one is better than a lot of other games. -- (\__/) (='.'=] < http://img.imgcake.com/sbellcardjpgub.jpg <cite>SBell0105 posted [p:640085] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Going into the game knowing next to nothing as I do all Final Fantasys. Its Final Fantasy, even the **iest one is better than a lot of other games. -- (\__/)(='.'=] < http://img.imgcake.com/sbellcardjpgub.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kotetsu534 01/07/12 11:26:00 AM #30:	I've been reading that this game is much easier than XIII, which I'd be disappointed by. One thing I really enjoyed in XIII was the challenge offered - I needed to play well to survive and win during the second half of the game. -- Who knew the Rivalry Rumble would be so predictable? SuperNiceDog, that's who. <cite>Kotetsu534 posted [p:640086] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> I've been reading that this game is much easier than XIII, which I'd be disappointed by. One thing I really enjoyed in XIII was the challenge offered - I needed to play well to survive and win during the second half of the game. -- Who knew the Rivalry Rumble would be so predictable? SuperNiceDog, that's who. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/07/12 11:26:00 AM #31:	From: SlymDayspring \| #027 how about people stop complaining until they play the game You make it sound like buying the game is something we should just automatically do! -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/1417/nighthawks1575201136223.jpg <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:640087] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: SlymDayspring \| #027how about people stop complaining until they play the gameYou make it sound like buying the game is something we should just automatically do! -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://img845.imageshack.us/img845/1417/nighthawks1575201136223.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 01/07/12 11:26:00 AM #32:	From: LeonhartFour \| #028 Yeah, that's my main problem with XIII-2, honestly. The game looks fine, but it seems like the whole design process was "Fix what people complained about." We'll see how it works. Wasn't that the design process that went into Sonic Colours? -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:640088] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: LeonhartFour \| #028Yeah, that's my main problem with XIII-2, honestly. The game looks fine, but it seems like the whole design process was "Fix what people complained about." We'll see how it works.Wasn't that the design process that went into Sonic Colours? -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/07/12 11:26:00 AM #33:	STP -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i56.tinypic.com/2enwxo0.jpg <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:640089] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> STP -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i56.tinypic.com/2enwxo0.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 01/07/12 11:27:00 AM #34:	Dungeon looks fine to me. -- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:640090] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Dungeon looks fine to me. -- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/07/12 11:29:00 AM #35:	From: KanzarisKelshen \| #032 Wasn't that the design process that went into Sonic Colours? Eh, it's not quite the same thing. -- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:640091] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: KanzarisKelshen \| #032Wasn't that the design process that went into Sonic Colours?Eh, it's not quite the same thing. -- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 01/07/12 11:30:00 AM #36:	At the very end of every branch(which it filled with random encounters every three steps) is a chest. One of these chests contains an item that is required to advance to the next area. The rest are empty, except for a speech bubble that pops up and says, "u mad?" Oh, the location of the real chest is random. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch <cite>redrocket posted [p:640092] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> At the very end of every branch(which it filled with random encounters every three steps) is a chest. One of these chests contains an item that is required to advance to the next area. The rest are empty, except for a speech bubble that pops up and says, "u mad?" Oh, the location of the real chest is random. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SlymDayspring 01/07/12 11:32:00 AM #37:	You make it sound like buying the game is something we should just automatically do! ....no I don't? I just feel like complaining about the possibility of a game being bad based on a a map (which is exactly what everyone here did with FF13) is stupid. -- I'm "kind of a big deal". http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png <cite>SlymDayspring posted [p:640093] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> You make it sound like buying the game is something we should just automatically do!....no I don't? I just feel like complaining about the possibility of a game being bad based on a a map (which is exactly what everyone here did with FF13) is stupid. -- I'm "kind of a big deal".http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/07/12 11:32:00 AM #38:	From: redrocket \| #036 At the very end of every branch(which it filled with random encounters every three steps) is a chest. One of these chests contains an item that is required to advance to the next area. The rest are empty, except for a speech bubble that pops up and says, "u mad?" Oh, the location of the real chest is random. I see no problem with this. You all need to stop complaining until you actually play the game. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/81/1768646.jpg <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:640094] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: redrocket \| #036At the very end of every branch(which it filled with random encounters every three steps) is a chest. One of these chests contains an item that is required to advance to the next area. The rest are empty, except for a speech bubble that pops up and says, "u mad?" Oh, the location of the real chest is random.I see no problem with this.You all need to stop complaining until you actually play the game. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://img848.imageshack.us/img848/81/1768646.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saveus_Maria 01/07/12 11:34:00 AM #39:	this looks like much more fun to me (I'm more of a fan of classic dungeon crawlers myself) but then again the battle system and characters all still look terrible so I probably will pass just like with the first one. -- no misuzu aliens did it <cite>saveus_Maria posted [p:640095] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> this looks like much more fun to me (I'm more of a fan of classic dungeon crawlers myself) but then again the battle system and characters all still look terrible so I probably will pass just like with the first one. -- no misuzu aliens did it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/07/12 11:34:00 AM #40:	From: SlymDayspring \| #037 ....no I don't? I just feel like complaining about the possibility of a game being bad based on a a map (which is exactly what everyone here did with FF13) is stupid. And it turned out to be right with FF13. But how else would you propose they try to judge a game they don't own, then? -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police I assure you, my dear, all Ace Detectives are perfect gentlemen! <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:640096] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: SlymDayspring \| #037....no I don't? I just feel like complaining about the possibility of a game being bad based on a a map (which is exactly what everyone here did with FF13) is stupid.And it turned out to be right with FF13. But how else would you propose they try to judge a game they don't own, then? -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' PoliceI assure you, my dear, all Ace Detectives are perfect gentlemen! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 01/07/12 11:38:00 AM #41:	FF13 isn't bad because of the map! it's just an easy thing to poke fun at. you could give FF13 lots of branching paths and it wouldn't change your opinion in a major way. -- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:640097] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> FF13 isn't bad because of the map! it's just an easy thing to poke fun at. you could give FF13 lots of branching paths and it wouldn't change your opinion in a major way. -- xyzzy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Weakupedia 01/07/12 11:38:00 AM #42:	*transcience posted...* the thing that scares me with 13-2 is how reactionary the whole thing is. it feels like a game being designed based on criticism more than an honest attempt at making a game. that said, the dungeon looks fine this is pretty much how I feel about 13-2 -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe <cite>Weakupedia posted [p:640098] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> transcience posted...the thing that scares me with 13-2 is how reactionary the whole thing is. it feels like a game being designed based on criticism more than an honest attempt at making a game. that said, the dungeon looks finethis is pretty much how I feel about 13-2 -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChichiriMuyo 01/07/12 11:39:00 AM #43:	Considering the fact that the articles states those are some of the more complex maps I have to say this should be a non-issue. If those were like the first two areas, though, then there might be something to complain about. -- SuperNiceDog had a super nice bracket too. <cite>ChichiriMuyo posted [p:640099] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Considering the fact that the articles states those are some of the more complex maps I have to say this should be a non-issue. If those were like the first two areas, though, then there might be something to complain about. -- SuperNiceDog had a super nice bracket too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Senjougaharaism 01/07/12 11:43:00 AM #44:	to be honest I think the map complaint is one of the more legit ones you can have about FFXIII then again if that was your only complaint, these maps should get you hyped. -- DON~! <cite>Senjougaharaism posted [p:640100] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> to be honest I think the map complaint is one of the more legit ones you can have about FFXIIIthen again if that was your only complaint, these maps should get you hyped. -- DON~! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/07/12 11:43:00 AM #45:	Honestly, those maps remind me of the last dungeon in FFX. Hopefully these dungeons won't be filled with smog that make it hard to tell where you're going. -- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:640101] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Honestly, those maps remind me of the last dungeon in FFX. Hopefully these dungeons won't be filled with smog that make it hard to tell where you're going. -- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 01/07/12 11:45:00 AM #46:	Yeah, the map looks fine. -- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." <cite>ZFS posted [p:640102] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, the map looks fine. -- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 01/07/12 11:47:00 AM #47:	From: Senjougaharaism \| #044 then again if you were complaining about that, these maps should get you hyped. Nah, most people want a middle ground. Maps where the path you're supposed to go is clear, with some short branches off in other directions where you can find rare treasure/hidden bosses/whatever. That first map is too extreme, like Square is going "Fine, you want stupid exploration? Here, have some stupid exploration! Stupid!" In all seriousness though, if maps like that first map aren't a frequent occurence, it's fine. -- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] Ace Detective in Sir Charles's Police http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkOj5DAJu2A <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:640103] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: Senjougaharaism \| #044then again if you were complaining about that, these maps should get you hyped.Nah, most people want a middle ground. Maps where the path you're supposed to go is clear, with some short branches off in other directions where you can find rare treasure/hidden bosses/whatever. That first map is too extreme, like Square is going "Fine, you want stupid exploration? Here, have some stupid exploration! Stupid!"In all seriousness though, if maps like that first map aren't a frequent occurence, it's fine. -- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] Ace Detective in Sir Charles's Policehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkOj5DAJu2A </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LamdaMax 01/07/12 11:54:00 AM #48:	Second one looks simple enough to navigate. The first looks like it could potentially be a pain, but if it's like FFXIII where you have a minimap that directs you towards your next objective all the time, navigation seems like it'd become pretty trivial. Really, it's hard to say what it's going to be like until you actually play the game. -- GotD Contest Champ <cite>LamdaMax posted [p:640104] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Second one looks simple enough to navigate. The first looks like it could potentially be a pain, but if it's like FFXIII where you have a minimap that directs you towards your next objective all the time, navigation seems like it'd become pretty trivial. Really, it's hard to say what it's going to be like until you actually play the game. -- GotD Contest Champ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Not_Wylvane 01/07/12 12:01:00 PM #49:	Second one looks fine to me. First looks a tad ridiculous, but it's probably one where you have to activate switches or whatever anyway. Not that I really care, since I'm not getting 13-2. 13 had much bigger problems than "too linear." -- Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Guru for a Super Bad Contest! <cite>Not_Wylvane posted [p:640105] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Second one looks fine to me. First looks a tad ridiculous, but it's probably one where you have to activate switches or whatever anyway.Not that I really care, since I'm not getting 13-2. 13 had much bigger problems than "too linear." -- Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Guru for a Super Bad Contest! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SlymDayspring 01/07/12 12:27:00 PM #50:	And it turned out to be right with FF13. But how else would you propose they try to judge a game they don't own, then? what I mean is that....saying "game is linear: BAD or game has complex maps: BAD" is stupid. if people actually get their hands on the game and start saying that yes, the linearity/complexity of the maps are a problem and it is something that concerns you, that is then making an informed decision. if this article was talking about a consensus amongst reviews saying the maps are a problem, that would be one thing, but it just goes "LOL MAPS" and lists some anonymous forum people with no source link to them actually saying those things. and then everyone makes huge ltm-style overreactions. gamers are just so damn annoying sometimes. -- I'm "kind of a big deal". http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png <cite>SlymDayspring posted [p:640106] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> And it turned out to be right with FF13. But how else would you propose they try to judge a game they don't own, then?what I mean is that....saying "game is linear: BAD or game has complex maps: BAD" is stupid. if people actually get their hands on the game and start saying that yes, the linearity/complexity of the maps are a problem and it is something that concerns you, that is then making an informed decision. if this article was talking about a consensus amongst reviews saying the maps are a problem, that would be one thing, but it just goes "LOL MAPS" and lists some anonymous forum people with no source link to them actually saying those things. and then everyone makes huge ltm-style overreactions. gamers are just so damn annoying sometimes. -- I'm "kind of a big deal".http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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