Board 8 > FFXIII-2 apparently features the opposite of linear hallway dungeons.

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pjbasis 01/07/12 2:45:00 PM #101:	Looks like an RPG dungeon to me. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:640157] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Looks like an RPG dungeon to me. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 01/07/12 3:08:00 PM #102:	For reference, everybody who is **ing in this topic is pretty much just being whiny. We have trip reports from people who are not professional reviewers, nor associated with Squeenix. The game apparently has many similarities with the Chrono series in plot, and most of the irritating autobattle bits of XIII are gone. It's looking like a major step up, not a gut reaction on the dislike for XIII. XIII was basically a gigantic tech demo, really. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:640158] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> For reference, everybody who is **ing in this topic is pretty much just being whiny. We have trip reports from people who are not professional reviewers, nor associated with Squeenix. The game apparently has many similarities with the Chrono series in plot, and most of the irritating autobattle bits of XIII are gone. It's looking like a major step up, not a gut reaction on the dislike for XIII. XIII was basically a gigantic tech demo, really. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grand Kirby 01/07/12 3:17:00 PM #103:	From: shadosneko \| #015 How about we just have a JRPG where every area is accessible from the start on the world map and the only thing stopping you from going there are the levels of the monsters? That'd be cool. http://www.gamefaqs.com/nes/563408-dragon-warrior -- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan <cite>Grand Kirby posted [p:640159] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: shadosneko \| #015How about we just have a JRPG where every area is accessible from the start on the world map and the only thing stopping you from going there are the levels of the monsters?That'd be cool.http://www.gamefaqs.com/nes/563408-dragon-warrior -- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? HsuThat you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHINE GET 64 01/07/12 3:26:00 PM #104:	*Grand Kirby posted...* From: shadosneko \| #015 How about we just have a JRPG where every area is accessible from the start on the world map and the only thing stopping you from going there are the levels of the monsters? That'd be cool. http://www.gamefaqs.com/nes/563408-dragon-warrior http://www.gamefaqs.com/wii/960564-xenoblade-chronicles -- http://i.imgur.com/lFBk1.jpg http://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/CaptainRockman.png <cite>SHINE GET 64 posted [p:640160] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Grand Kirby posted...From: shadosneko \| #015How about we just have a JRPG where every area is accessible from the start on the world map and the only thing stopping you from going there are the levels of the monsters?That'd be cool.http://www.gamefaqs.com/nes/563408-dragon-warriorhttp://www.gamefaqs.com/wii/960564-xenoblade-chronicles -- http://i.imgur.com/lFBk1.jpghttp://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/CaptainRockman.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 01/07/12 3:27:00 PM #105:	Maps weren't the only problem. Is XIII-2 still without an overworld? Is it still chaptered and you're just stuck in the level you're on? If so it's still the same problem I had with XIII. I'd be pretty okay with straight-line maps if they were all on an overworld. That being said, these maps aren't good. They're just labyrinths. Square is just going "oh they don't like completely straight roads, I guess they want big complexity!". It just leads to completely uninspired mazes that nobody wants. However, I'm not going to judge XIII-2's maps based on this. XIII's map problem was that every map was a straight line except Pulse. I don't believe that every map in XIII-2 will be like this. I could be wrong, but I have no reason to suggest otherwise when it's just these two maps shown. Either way, I won't be buying this game unless it's used for really really cheap. XIII was not a story I wanted to be continued. That and the cast was 2 characters I liked, 3 characters I don't care for, and 1 character I absolutely despise. -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/mask_salesman_rage.gif <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:640161] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Maps weren't the only problem. Is XIII-2 still without an overworld? Is it still chaptered and you're just stuck in the level you're on? If so it's still the same problem I had with XIII. I'd be pretty okay with straight-line maps if they were all on an overworld.That being said, these maps aren't good. They're just labyrinths. Square is just going "oh they don't like completely straight roads, I guess they want big complexity!". It just leads to completely uninspired mazes that nobody wants. However, I'm not going to judge XIII-2's maps based on this. XIII's map problem was that every map was a straight line except Pulse. I don't believe that every map in XIII-2 will be like this. I could be wrong, but I have no reason to suggest otherwise when it's just these two maps shown.Either way, I won't be buying this game unless it's used for really really cheap. XIII was not a story I wanted to be continued. That and the cast was 2 characters I liked, 3 characters I don't care for, and 1 character I absolutely despise. -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/mask_salesman_rage.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 01/07/12 3:28:00 PM #106:	Grand Kirby with the better link. -- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." <cite>ZFS posted [p:640162] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Grand Kirby with the better link. -- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leebo86 01/07/12 3:30:00 PM #107:	This is what people whined for, and now they're whining more. Just a bunch of whiners. -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:640163] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> This is what people whined for, and now they're whining more. Just a bunch of whiners. -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 01/07/12 3:36:00 PM #108:	I see some reasonable people in this topic. And quite a few beta whiners. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog <cite>voltch posted [p:640164] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> I see some reasonable people in this topic.And quite a few beta whiners. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/07/12 3:38:00 PM #109:	just as an aside, it's entirely possible that this game will be labyrinthine and horrible I mean this is Square-Enix guys they haven't made a good FF game in a decade <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:640165] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> just as an aside, it's entirely possible that this game will be labyrinthine and horribleI mean this is Square-Enix guysthey haven't made a good FF game in a decade </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHINE GET 64 01/07/12 3:41:00 PM #110:	6 years -- http://i.imgur.com/lFBk1.jpg http://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/CaptainRockman.png <cite>SHINE GET 64 posted [p:640166] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> 6 years -- http://i.imgur.com/lFBk1.jpghttp://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/CaptainRockman.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/07/12 3:41:00 PM #111:	From: SHINE GET 64 \| #110 2 years -- http://i.minus.com/iH9vIGOBoyTQ2.gif <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:640167] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: SHINE GET 64 \| #1102 years -- http://i.minus.com/iH9vIGOBoyTQ2.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/07/12 3:46:00 PM #112:	FFX was 10 years ago guys <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:640168] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> FFX was 10 years ago guys </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 01/07/12 3:46:00 PM #113:	Livin' in the past. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog <cite>voltch posted [p:640169] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Livin' in the past. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 01/07/12 3:48:00 PM #114:	From: OmarsComin \| #109 just as an aside, it's entirely possible that this game will be labyrinthine and horrible I mean this is Square-Enix guys they haven't made a good FF game in a decade And yet the player reviews are decent (from people who did not like XIII). You'll understand it if I trust them over the whining in this topic, Da? -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:640170] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: OmarsComin \| #109just as an aside, it's entirely possible that this game will be labyrinthine and horribleI mean this is Square-Enix guysthey haven't made a good FF game in a decadeAnd yet the player reviews are decent (from people who did not like XIII). You'll understand it if I trust them over the whining in this topic, Da? -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHINE GET 64 01/07/12 3:49:00 PM #115:	While certainly a good game, I'd say XIII was only average as a FF game! -- http://i.imgur.com/lFBk1.jpg http://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/CaptainRockman.png <cite>SHINE GET 64 posted [p:640171] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> While certainly a good game, I'd say XIII was only average as a FF game! -- http://i.imgur.com/lFBk1.jpghttp://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/CaptainRockman.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0ron 01/07/12 3:52:00 PM #116:	FFX2 was 8 years ago guys -- _foolmo_ 'and out of the blue and completely unprovoked came foolmo and his insult' - Anagram <cite>foolm0ron posted [p:640172] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> FFX2 was 8 years ago guys -- _foolmo_'and out of the blue and completely unprovoked came foolmo and his insult' - Anagram </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/07/12 3:54:00 PM #117:	And yet the player reviews are decent (from people who did not like XIII). You'll understand it if I trust them over the whining in this topic, Da? it's not whining, it's a natural reaction to being fans of a series that has been up and down for a while now it's called skepticism, and that seems like a reasonable response to anything from this company these days <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:640173] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> And yet the player reviews are decent (from people who did not like XIII). You'll understand it if I trust them over the whining in this topic, Da?it's not whining, it's a natural reaction to being fans of a series that has been up and down for a while nowit's called skepticism, and that seems like a reasonable response to anything from this company these days </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeepsPraw 01/07/12 3:58:00 PM #118:	*shadosneko posted...* How about we just have a JRPG where every area is accessible from the start on the world map and the only thing stopping you from going there are the levels of the monsters? That'd be cool. Dark Souls AKA GOTY 2011 -- Jerry Sandusky is a football God! Jerry Sandusky is a football LEGEND! http://youtu.be/B3fRhOfkc_w <cite>DeepsPraw posted [p:640174] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> shadosneko posted...How about we just have a JRPG where every area is accessible from the start on the world map and the only thing stopping you from going there are the levels of the monsters?That'd be cool.Dark Souls AKA GOTY 2011 -- Jerry Sandusky is a football God! Jerry Sandusky is a football LEGEND!http://youtu.be/B3fRhOfkc_w </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0ron 01/07/12 4:09:00 PM #119:	From: DeepsPraw \| #118 Dark Souls AKA GOTY 2011 not a JRPG -- _foolmo_ 'Illegal activities is a slight misnomer, most of it is not related to material that is actually illegal.' - nintendogrl1 <cite>foolm0ron posted [p:640175] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: DeepsPraw \| #118Dark Souls AKA GOTY 2011not a JRPG -- _foolmo_'Illegal activities is a slight misnomer, most of it is not related to material that is actually illegal.' - nintendogrl1 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leebo86 01/07/12 4:11:00 PM #120:	From: OmarsComin \| #117 it's not whining It only sounds like whining, right -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:640176] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: OmarsComin \| #117it's not whiningIt only sounds like whining, right -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0ron 01/07/12 4:13:00 PM #121:	From: OmarsComin \| #117 it's not whining -- _foolmo_ 'he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance' - ertyu quoting Tidus <cite>foolm0ron posted [p:640177] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: OmarsComin \| #117it's not whining -- _foolmo_'he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance' - ertyu quoting Tidus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/07/12 9:44:00 PM #122:	Are you talking about people somewhere else? Because the posts I've read ITT have been pretty non-whine. <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:640178] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Are you talking about people somewhere else? Because the posts I've read ITT have been pretty non-whine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/07/12 9:51:00 PM #123:	*OmarsComin posted...* Are you talking about people somewhere else? Because the posts I've read ITT have been pretty non-whine. Sounds like something a whiner would say. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:640179] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> OmarsComin posted...Are you talking about people somewhere else? Because the posts I've read ITT have been pretty non-whine.Sounds like something a whiner would say. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/07/12 9:52:00 PM #124:	I made a post about how Square jumps from extreme to extreme in map design between games and then said I wanted an FF9 HD Remix if that's the criteria I guess those posts make a lot more sense! <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:640180] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> I made a post about how Square jumps from extreme to extreme in map design between games and then said I wanted an FF9 HD Remixif that's the criteria I guess those posts make a lot more sense! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroicGammaRay 01/07/12 9:54:00 PM #125:	the maps look pretty standard to me (which is still probably boring/tedious but that's a problem with rpgs in general, not this game in particular) --- <cite>HeroicGammaRay posted [p:640181] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> the maps look pretty standard to me (which is still probably boring/tedious but that's a problem with rpgs in general, not this game in particular)--- </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordOfDabu 01/07/12 9:57:00 PM #126:	I would have liked something more along the lines of Pulse, personally -- Watch me play games! http://www.livestream.com/dabu <cite>LordOfDabu posted [p:640182] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> I would have liked something more along the lines of Pulse, personally -- Watch me play games!http://www.livestream.com/dabu </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/07/12 9:59:00 PM #127:	*OmarsComin posted...* I made a post about how Square jumps from extreme to extreme in map design between games and then said I wanted an FF9 HD Remix if that's the criteria I guess those posts make a lot more sense! But... these maps don't seem like extremes compared to XIII. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:640183] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> OmarsComin posted...I made a post about how Square jumps from extreme to extreme in map design between games and then said I wanted an FF9 HD Remixif that's the criteria I guess those posts make a lot more sense!But... these maps don't seem like extremes compared to XIII. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 01/07/12 10:05:00 PM #128:	From: OmarsComin \| #124 I made a post about how Square jumps from extreme to extreme in map design between games and then said I wanted an FF9 HD Remix if that's the criteria I guess those posts make a lot more sense! Wasn't talking about you specifically, mostly people on the frontpage. But tell you what, you get FF9-2 HD Remix if I get FF8-0 or FF8-2. :P -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:640184] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: OmarsComin \| #124I made a post about how Square jumps from extreme to extreme in map design between games and then said I wanted an FF9 HD Remixif that's the criteria I guess those posts make a lot more sense!Wasn't talking about you specifically, mostly people on the frontpage.But tell you what, you get FF9-2 HD Remix if I get FF8-0 or FF8-2. :P -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/07/12 10:06:00 PM #129:	yeah they do <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:640185] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> yeah they do </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/07/12 10:09:00 PM #130:	*OmarsComin posted...* yeah they do Not really. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:640186] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> OmarsComin posted...yeah they doNot really. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/07/12 10:12:00 PM #131:	But tell you what, you get FF9-2 HD Remix if I get FF8-0 or FF8-2. :P I want all of those things, sounds good Not really. I was gonna go find some pictures of FF13 area maps but Google didn't find me anything. so just pretend I drew a straight line in paint and uploaded it, with something really witty written at the bottom <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:640187] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> But tell you what, you get FF9-2 HD Remix if I get FF8-0 or FF8-2. :PI want all of those things, sounds goodNot really.I was gonna go find some pictures of FF13 area maps but Google didn't find me anything. so just pretend I drew a straight line in paint and uploaded it, with something really witty written at the bottom </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/07/12 10:29:00 PM #132:	No, I get that FFXIII is a straight line. What I'm saying is that these maps aren't an "extreme" opposite of a straight line. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:640188] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> No, I get that FFXIII is a straight line. What I'm saying is that these maps aren't an "extreme" opposite of a straight line. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 01/07/12 10:31:00 PM #133:	I don't find maps like these to be particulary great either. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog <cite>voltch posted [p:640189] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> I don't find maps like these to be particulary great either. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 01/07/12 10:46:00 PM #136:	No, I get that FFXIII is a straight line. What I'm saying is that these maps aren't an "extreme" opposite of a straight line. I only saw the two pictures in the link, but they look more complex than anything the series has had since... the SNES? For the most part the FF series seems to have pretty simple map design. With those maps looking the day they do, I'd be surprised if they weren't a reaction to fan feedback from 13. It seems to change a bit every time from what I can see. I liked 10's maps a lot but 13 definitely felt like corridors. FFXII and XIII-2 can both probably be categorized as relatively non-linear (at least for the series) and they look a lot different from each other. I don't find maps like these to be particulary great either. I think 12 has the weirdest maps TBH they seem like they could be randomly generated and I wouldn't know the difference <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:640192] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> No, I get that FFXIII is a straight line. What I'm saying is that these maps aren't an "extreme" opposite of a straight line.I only saw the two pictures in the link, but they look more complex than anything the series has had since... the SNES? For the most part the FF series seems to have pretty simple map design. With those maps looking the day they do, I'd be surprised if they weren't a reaction to fan feedback from 13.It seems to change a bit every time from what I can see. I liked 10's maps a lot but 13 definitely felt like corridors. FFXII and XIII-2 can both probably be categorized as relatively non-linear (at least for the series) and they look a lot different from each other.I don't find maps like these to be particulary great either.I think 12 has the weirdest maps TBHthey seem like they could be randomly generated and I wouldn't know the difference </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 01/07/12 10:53:00 PM #137:	*OmarsComin posted...* I was gonna go find some pictures of FF13 area maps but Google didn't find me anything. so just pretend I drew a straight line in paint and uploaded it, with something really witty written at the bottom ! -- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." <cite>ZFS posted [p:640193] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> OmarsComin posted...I was gonna go find some pictures of FF13 area maps but Google didn't find me anything. so just pretend I drew a straight line in paint and uploaded it, with something really witty written at the bottom ! -- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 01/07/12 10:56:00 PM #138:	*UltimaterializerX posted...* This goes to show that casual gamers should never be taken into account during any game's design process because they are all completely clueless as to what they actually want. Goddamn Sonic Team. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:640194] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> UltimaterializerX posted...This goes to show that casual gamers should never be taken into account during any game's design process because they are all completely clueless as to what they actually want. Goddamn Sonic Team. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/07/12 10:56:00 PM #139:	From: ZFS \| #137 ! Yep, that's a lot better than the Sandsea. -- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:640195] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: ZFS \| #137 !Yep, that's a lot better than the Sandsea. -- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 01/07/12 10:58:00 PM #140:	To each their own, I suppose! -- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." <cite>ZFS posted [p:640196] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> To each their own, I suppose! -- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/07/12 10:59:00 PM #141:	Well, the Sandsea in general is terrible. The ridiculous layout is only one reason. -- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:640197] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Well, the Sandsea in general is terrible. The ridiculous layout is only one reason. -- "I can set you free, mate.""My freedom was forfeit long ago!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 01/07/12 11:01:00 PM #142:	FFXII isn't my ideal map, in any case. The RPG with the best map ever looks like this on the map screen -- -- but like this when you're on it -- ! -- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." <cite>ZFS posted [p:640198] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> FFXII isn't my ideal map, in any case. The RPG with the best map ever looks like this on the map screen -- -- but like this when you're on it -- ! -- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/07/12 11:07:00 PM #143:	Persona 4 best maps <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:640199] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> Persona 4 best maps </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/07/12 11:21:00 PM #144:	I only saw the two pictures in the link, but they look more complex than anything the series has had since... the SNES? For the most part the FF series seems to have pretty simple map design. With those maps looking the day they do, I'd be surprised if they weren't a reaction to fan feedback from 13. I'm not saying this isn't feedback from the last game. I'm not saying they're not more complicated than normal. I'm saying these aren't the "extreme" opposites of straight line. This is: -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:640200] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> I only saw the two pictures in the link, but they look more complex than anything the series has had since... the SNES? For the most part the FF series seems to have pretty simple map design. With those maps looking the day they do, I'd be surprised if they weren't a reaction to fan feedback from 13.I'm not saying this isn't feedback from the last game.I'm not saying they're not more complicated than normal.I'm saying these aren't the "extreme" opposites of straight line.This is: -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 01/07/12 11:25:00 PM #145:	From: UltimaterializerX \| #134 pffffffhahahahahahahahahahaha people will f**ing cry about any goddamn thing they can these days. Beta males being beta males. This EXACT same topic got made before 13 came out and this whole board whined about the game being a hallway. Now Square gives you all exactly what you want and the same people cry like girls. That map isn't even complicated, either; it is* the happy medium people have been whining for since FFX. Have any of you people actually played a JRPG from the Playstation 1 era? Vagrant Story and Xenogears absolutely crap all over that map for complexity. It isn't Square that "doesn't know what they're doing", it's Square's whiny mainstream hipster fangirl customers who want to have their cake and eat it too. This goes to show that casual gamers should never be taken into account during any game's design process because they are all completely clueless as to what they actually want. Whoever coined "the customer is always right" was living in Bizarro World. 13 was great, 13-2 is going to be Hall of Fame caliber. Can't wait to play it. Ninja'd like crazy, man! Got there way before you did! :P But yeah, more or less agree with everything, though less aggressively. This is Square Doing It Right, really. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:640201] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> From: UltimaterializerX \| #134pffffffhahahahahahahahahahaha people will f**ing cry about any goddamn thing they can these days. Beta males being beta males.This EXACT same topic got made before 13 came out and this whole board whined about the game being a hallway. Now Square gives you all exactly what you want and the same people cry like girls. That map isn't even complicated, either; it is* the happy medium people have been whining for since FFX. Have any of you people actually played a JRPG from the Playstation 1 era? Vagrant Story and Xenogears absolutely crap all over that map for complexity. It isn't Square that "doesn't know what they're doing", it's Square's whiny mainstream hipster fangirl customers who want to have their cake and eat it too. This goes to show that casual gamers should never be taken into account during any game's design process because they are all completely clueless as to what they actually want. Whoever coined "the customer is always right" was living in Bizarro World.13 was great, 13-2 is going to be Hall of Fame caliber. Can't wait to play it.Ninja'd like crazy, man! Got there way before you did! :PBut yeah, more or less agree with everything, though less aggressively. This is Square Doing It Right, really. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RevolverSaro 01/07/12 11:40:00 PM #146:	The maps in the original post look pretty good. Haters gonna hate -- "Don't freeze up girl, you're looking quite a sight." - Adam Ant. "Baby, can you dig your man? He's a righteous man." - Larry Underwood <cite>RevolverSaro posted [p:640202] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> The maps in the original post look pretty good. Haters gonna hate -- "Don't freeze up girl, you're looking quite a sight." - Adam Ant."Baby, can you dig your man? He's a righteous man." - Larry Underwood </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delseban 01/07/12 11:48:00 PM #148:	It's more like Square has given these guys a cake AND is letting them eat it, and they're still complaining <cite>Delseban posted [p:640204] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> It's more like Square has given these guys a cake AND is letting them eat it, and they're still complaining </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Brayze_II 01/07/12 11:51:00 PM #149:	psh those aren't so bad RPG story one time I played in a game that featured a labyrinth that looked mostly identical and it would teleport you from junction to junction. Each dead end looked from a distance like an exit, but actually consisted of an imp statue holding a sky-colored lantern that would animate, leap off the pedestal and recite 'oh look at this, it's a dead end is it?' 'you're pouting like children and throwing a fit!' 'well cry all you want as I don't give a **' 'And now I will gate you - set you back a bit!' And then it teleported us to a random part of the dungeon. If you can picture a grown man capering around and reciting this about 10 times then you can imagine what this was like. There was a second rhyme when we actually did reach the end. If we didn't defeat the real devil in about 4-5 rounds, he broke into song: 'You thought you'd get out, oh I'm sure that you did!' "You'd hoped that your boots would walk free on the grass.' 'But I've bottled you up, and stoppered the lid,' 'So get back to the start, and kisseth mine ass!' and then slapped its butt, farted, and teleported us back to the beginning. As you might imagine I don't have a lot of patience for people who worry about branching paths -- A mystical magical favor <cite>Brayze_II posted [p:640205] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> psh those aren't so badRPG storyone time I played in a game that featured a labyrinth that looked mostly identical and it would teleport you from junction to junction. Each dead end looked from a distance like an exit, but actually consisted of an imp statue holding a sky-colored lantern that would animate, leap off the pedestal and recite'oh look at this, it's a dead end is it?''you're pouting like children and throwing a fit!''well cry all you want as I don't give a **''And now I will gate you - set you back a bit!'And then it teleported us to a random part of the dungeon. If you can picture a grown man capering around and reciting this about 10 times then you can imagine what this was like.There was a second rhyme when we actually did reach the end. If we didn't defeat the real devil in about 4-5 rounds, he broke into song:'You thought you'd get out, oh I'm sure that you did!'"You'd hoped that your boots would walk free on the grass.''But I've bottled you up, and stoppered the lid,''So get back to the start, and kisseth mine ass!'and then slapped its butt, farted, and teleported us back to the beginning.As you might imagine I don't have a lot of patience for people who worry about branching paths -- A mystical magical favor </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
samuraiman26 01/08/12 5:21:00 AM #150:	I don't understand ff Fans anymore. What I hate is that people aren't even giving this game a chance. The story is different, there a towns, a world map to connect towns, dialogue choices but people still whine. I do admit however the recent Final Fantasy aren't the same, I blame it on the current director, like someone above me said. It isn't Final Fantasy it is him. Motymoria or something like that. He made FFX FFXII and FFXIII and FFXIII-2. While I do like all of those games, XII is when most people think the series went downhill. But with FFX he had two other people helping him. Have you noticed all the cheesy dialogue? He makes Kingdom Hearts also. What I don't understand is that the other people who made past titles are still there, but this guy should be fired. While I do like all Final Fantasies, and think that XIII was over exaggerated in terms of badness, you could put someone else, and it would have been better received.. I think that if the next ff game is announced (FFXV), Somebody should start a petition if he is directing it. I hope he doesn't direct it. Anyway, I will be getting ff13-2 as I think it will be like older ones as it is going to get from him. Fans should stop complaining and exaggerate a games badness. While XIII was linear, I think that the story is the only part they failed in. <cite>samuraiman26 posted [p:640206] in FFXIII-2 a... [t:61587143]...</cite> <quote> I don't understand ff Fans anymore. What I hate is that people aren't even giving this game a chance. The story is different, there a towns, a world map to connect towns, dialogue choices but people still whine. I do admit however the recent Final Fantasy aren't the same, I blame it on the current director, like someone above me said. It isn't Final Fantasy it is him. Motymoria or something like that. He made FFX FFXII and FFXIII and FFXIII-2. While I do like all of those games, XII is when most people think the series went downhill. But with FFX he had two other people helping him. Have you noticed all the cheesy dialogue? He makes Kingdom Hearts also. What I don't understand is that the other people who made past titles are still there, but this guy should be fired. While I do like all Final Fantasies, and think that XIII was over exaggerated in terms of badness, you could put someone else, and it would have been better received.. I think that if the next ff game is announced (FFXV), Somebody should start a petition if he is directing it. I hope he doesn't direct it. Anyway, I will be getting ff13-2 as I think it will be like older ones as it is going to get from him. Fans should stop complaining and exaggerate a games badness. While XIII was linear, I think that the story is the only part they failed in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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