Board 8 > Bully is stabbed to death, his victim faces no charges

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TheNinJa7777 01/04/12 11:20:00 AM #1:	http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/jan/03/collier-judge-upholds-stand-your-ground-defense-ca/?partn -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPsCIG-pycs&feature=related <cite>TheNinJa7777 posted [p:628692] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/jan/03/collier-judge-upholds-stand-your-ground-defense-ca/?partn -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPsCIG-pycs&feature=related </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 01/04/12 11:23:00 AM #2:	The guy punched him in the head. Fair -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:628693] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> The guy punched him in the head. Fair -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 01/04/12 11:24:00 AM #4:	Stabbing someone 12 times is a little overboard for self-defense. -- FF fans don't hang around the internet on a monday morning they are out doing shopping or asleep hungover from parties. They got lives. -The_Djoker <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:628695] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> Stabbing someone 12 times is a little overboard for self-defense. -- FF fans don't hang around the internet on a monday morning they are out doing shopping or asleep hungover from parties. They got lives. -The_Djoker </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Liquid Wind 01/04/12 11:25:00 AM #5:	*DeathChicken posted...* The guy punched him in the head. Fair <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:628696] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> DeathChicken posted...The guy punched him in the head. Fair </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarvelousGerbil 01/04/12 11:25:00 AM #6:	Nobody's going to ** with that kid again. -- http://i.imgur.com/6XjQR.gif <cite>MarvelousGerbil posted [p:628697] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> Nobody's going to ** with that kid again. -- http://i.imgur.com/6XjQR.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mershaaay 01/04/12 11:26:00 AM #7:	The dead kid looks like a douche. Fair. -- SephirothG, channeling awesomeness from Mershiness. The Resurrection <cite>Mershaaay posted [p:628698] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> The dead kid looks like a douche. Fair. -- SephirothG, channeling awesomeness from Mershiness.The Resurrection </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 01/04/12 11:26:00 AM #8:	*The Mana Sword posted...* Stabbing someone 12 times is a little overboard for self-defense. nope. same thing as the mcdonalds attack, if someone aggressively instigates violence with you when you're attempting to be peaceful they're giving you permission to kill or maim them. <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:628699] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> The Mana Sword posted...Stabbing someone 12 times is a little overboard for self-defense.nope. same thing as the mcdonalds attack, if someone aggressively instigates violence with you when you're attempting to be peaceful they're giving you permission to kill or maim them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 01/04/12 11:26:00 AM #9:	From: The Mana Sword \| #004 Stabbing someone 12 times is a little overboard for self-defense. If you ever had to stab or shoot someone, would you not shoot/slash to kill? Because that is the point. You don't attack with deadly force to wound, as they can then kill you. That is why all officers are told shoot to kill. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:628700] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> From: The Mana Sword \| #004Stabbing someone 12 times is a little overboard for self-defense.If you ever had to stab or shoot someone, would you not shoot/slash to kill? Because that is the point. You don't attack with deadly force to wound, as they can then kill you. That is why all officers are told shoot to kill. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mershaaay 01/04/12 11:26:00 AM #10:	*SantaRPG posted...* this sets a bad precedent for cyber bullying wut last I checked you can't physically hurt someone over facebook but maybe you've discovered a way, santa -- SephirothG, channeling awesomeness from Mershiness. The Resurrection <cite>Mershaaay posted [p:628701] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> SantaRPG posted...this sets a bad precedent for cyber bullyingwutlast I checked you can't physically hurt someone over facebook but maybe you've discovered a way, santa -- SephirothG, channeling awesomeness from Mershiness.The Resurrection </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neonreaper 01/04/12 11:28:00 AM #11:	*The Mana Sword posted...* Stabbing someone 12 times is a little overboard for self-defense. what is the correct amount of stabs -- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter? Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. <cite>neonreaper posted [p:628702] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> The Mana Sword posted...Stabbing someone 12 times is a little overboard for self-defense.what is the correct amount of stabs -- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter?Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 01/04/12 11:28:00 AM #12:	From: DeathChicken \| #002 The guy punched him in the head. Fair -- yE frE me Kweku Ananse Papa me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:628703] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> From: DeathChicken \| #002The guy punched him in the head. Fair -- yE frE me Kweku Ananse Papa me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 01/04/12 11:28:00 AM #13:	11 -- FF fans don't hang around the internet on a monday morning they are out doing shopping or asleep hungover from parties. They got lives. -The_Djoker <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:628704] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> 11 -- FF fans don't hang around the internet on a monday morning they are out doing shopping or asleep hungover from parties. They got lives. -The_Djoker </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 01/04/12 11:29:00 AM #14:	From: Mershaaay \| #010 *SantaRPG posted...* this sets a bad precedent for cyber bullying wut last I checked you can't physically hurt someone over facebook but maybe you've discovered a way, santa Punch so hard they feel it over the internet. Anyway, fair. "My son's not a bully, the other guys a dousche! He couldn't have been a bully. He just punched the kid in the head and wouldn't let him run away in front of witnesses, after all!" From: neonreaper \| #011 *The Mana Sword posted...* Stabbing someone 12 times is a little overboard for self-defense. what is the correct amount of stabs 42. -- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover, God himself, be your hope. You have to be your own hope. <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:628705] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> From: Mershaaay \| #010SantaRPG posted...this sets a bad precedent for cyber bullyingwutlast I checked you can't physically hurt someone over facebook but maybe you've discovered a way, santaPunch so hard they feel it over the internet.Anyway, fair. "My son's not a bully, the other guys a dousche! He couldn't have been a bully. He just punched the kid in the head and wouldn't let him run away in front of witnesses, after all!"From: neonreaper \| #011The Mana Sword posted...Stabbing someone 12 times is a little overboard for self-defense.what is the correct amount of stabs42. -- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover, God himself, be your hope. You have to be your own hope. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 01/04/12 11:30:00 AM #15:	Good for justice. It's sad that people are made afraid by the legal system to kill in self-defense. -- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. <cite>KingButz posted [p:628706] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> Good for justice. It's sad that people are made afraid by the legal system to kill in self-defense. -- My Japanese alter-ego.Hey all this is Bartz btw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 01/04/12 11:32:00 AM #16:	Pretty ridiculous. There are ways to injure someone or set examples without killing them, take that fast food guy and his iron stick. Not to mention he was outnumbered with little provocation. This kid is not fit for society if his only response to bullying is "avoid or kill." EVEN THEN. I thought courtrooms worked with the "beyond reasonable doubt" stuff. Was a punch to the head really beyond reasonable doubt he was in mortal danger? *MarvelousGerbil posted...* Nobody's going to *** with that kid again.* But also this. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:628707] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> Pretty ridiculous. There are ways to injure someone or set examples without killing them, take that fast food guy and his iron stick. Not to mention he was outnumbered with little provocation.This kid is not fit for society if his only response to bullying is "avoid or kill."EVEN THEN. I thought courtrooms worked with the "beyond reasonable doubt" stuff. Was a punch to the head really beyond reasonable doubt he was in mortal danger?MarvelousGerbil posted...Nobody's going to **** with that kid again.But also this. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 01/04/12 11:32:00 AM #17:	The bully had also brought a whole bunch of his friends along, apparently. That kid was probably going to be killed himself, or at least very badly hurt -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:628708] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> The bully had also brought a whole bunch of his friends along, apparently. That kid was probably going to be killed himself, or at least very badly hurt -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shoenin_Kakashi 01/04/12 11:32:00 AM #18:	12 stabs? Jesus boy, One is enough to get the point across. Bully looks like a douche though. -- Oh SuperNiceDog's doing it again dude. SuperNiceDog, you ain't no pimp dude <cite>Shoenin_Kakashi posted [p:628709] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> 12 stabs? Jesus boy, One is enough to get the point across.Bully looks like a douche though. -- Oh SuperNiceDog's doing it again dude.SuperNiceDog, you ain't no pimp dude </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 01/04/12 11:33:00 AM #19:	You guys are kidding, right? Nowhere in the article does it infer that the bully had any intent to kill or maim, so no way is this okay. Getting punched in the head does not give you the right to stab a person. Did the bully even know the kid had a knife? <cite>colliding posted [p:628710] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> You guys are kidding, right? Nowhere in the article does it infer that the bully had any intent to kill or maim, so no way is this okay. Getting punched in the head does not give you the right to stab a person. Did the bully even know the kid had a knife? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 01/04/12 11:34:00 AM #20:	*KingButz posted...* Good for justice. It's sad that people are made afraid by the legal system to kill in self-defense. QFT it's a tragedy that people like kleenex and pjb exist that want to defend criminals from their own victims, people shouldn't be afraid of being able to defend themselves <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:628711] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> KingButz posted...Good for justice. It's sad that people are made afraid by the legal system to kill in self-defense.QFTit's a tragedy that people like kleenex and pjb exist that want to defend criminals from their own victims, people shouldn't be afraid of being able to defend themselves </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 01/04/12 11:35:00 AM #21:	From: colliding \| #019 You guys are kidding, right? Nowhere in the article does it infer that the bully had any intent to kill or maim, so no way is this okay. Getting punched in the head does not give you the right to stab a person. Did the bully even know the kid had a knife? From: DeathChicken \| #017 The bully had also brought a whole bunch of his friends along, apparently. That kid was probably going to be killed himself, or at least very badly hurt That information obviously didn't come from the article there. But what the hell kinda argument is that? How would we know the intent of the dead? Obviously it's not going to be in the article. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover, God himself, be your hope. You have to be your own hope. <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:628712] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> From: colliding \| #019You guys are kidding, right? Nowhere in the article does it infer that the bully had any intent to kill or maim, so no way is this okay. Getting punched in the head does not give you the right to stab a person. Did the bully even know the kid had a knife?From: DeathChicken \| #017The bully had also brought a whole bunch of his friends along, apparently. That kid was probably going to be killed himself, or at least very badly hurtThat information obviously didn't come from the article there. But what the hell kinda argument is that? How would we know the intent of the dead? Obviously it's not going to be in the article.--- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover, God himself, be your hope. You have to be your own hope. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 01/04/12 11:35:00 AM #22:	From: The Mana Sword \| #004 Stabbing someone 12 times is a little overboard for self-defense. This. From: KingButz \| #015 Good for justice. It's sad that people are made afraid by the legal system to kill in self-defense. But also this. -- "oh my god oh my god a spider just crawled INTO MY KEYBOARD" -pxlated "It just wants some web access." - Ness26 <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:628713] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> From: The Mana Sword \| #004Stabbing someone 12 times is a little overboard for self-defense.This.From: KingButz \| #015Good for justice. It's sad that people are made afraid by the legal system to kill in self-defense.But also this. -- "oh my god oh my god a spider just crawled INTO MY KEYBOARD" -pxlated"It just wants some web access." - Ness26 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 01/04/12 11:36:00 AM #23:	Nowhere did I say he shouldn't have defended himself, come on now. -- FF fans don't hang around the internet on a monday morning they are out doing shopping or asleep hungover from parties. They got lives. -The_Djoker <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:628714] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> Nowhere did I say he shouldn't have defended himself, come on now. -- FF fans don't hang around the internet on a monday morning they are out doing shopping or asleep hungover from parties. They got lives. -The_Djoker </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 01/04/12 11:37:00 AM #24:	From: Shoenin_Kakashi \| #018 Bully looks like a douche though. This too! -- http://i48.tinypic.com/2q8zwvs.png <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:628715] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> From: Shoenin_Kakashi \| #018Bully looks like a douche though.This too! -- http://i48.tinypic.com/2q8zwvs.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 01/04/12 11:38:00 AM #25:	*Liquid Wind posted...* it's a tragedy that people like kleenex and pjb exist that want to defend criminals from their own victims, people shouldn't be afraid of being able to defend themselves Haha man. What you're asking for is some sort of Wild West style law enforcement. If you attack me I can kill you. I remember everyone up in arms that women have power over men with the ability to say they were raped. But you want people to have the ability to provoke someone into attacking them so they can just kill them? -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:628716] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> Liquid Wind posted...it's a tragedy that people like kleenex and pjb exist that want to defend criminals from their own victims, people shouldn't be afraid of being able to defend themselvesHaha man.What you're asking for is some sort of Wild West style law enforcement.If you attack me I can kill you.I remember everyone up in arms that women have power over men with the ability to say they were raped. But you want people to have the ability to provoke someone into attacking them so they can just kill them? -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rammtay 01/04/12 11:40:00 AM #26:	Oh man. You have no idea how much I want to hunt down and kill the ** out of all those douchebags who ruined my childhood. Good. -- caps <cite>rammtay posted [p:628717] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> Oh man. You have no idea how much I want to hunt down and kill the ** out of all those douchebags who ruined my childhood. Good. -- caps </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 01/04/12 11:41:00 AM #27:	What you're asking for is some sort of Wild West style law enforcement. If you attack me I can kill you. absolutely. if you want to attack someone you should accept the possibility of death, if you don't want to die just behave in a civilized manner. there's always this possibility anyway, there's just no reason the law should protect the instigator. <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:628718] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> What you're asking for is some sort of Wild West style law enforcement.If you attack me I can kill you.absolutely. if you want to attack someone you should accept the possibility of death, if you don't want to die just behave in a civilized manner. there's always this possibility anyway, there's just no reason the law should protect the instigator. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Cobain 01/04/12 11:42:00 AM #28:	rammtay \| Posted 1/4/2012 2:40:00 PM \| message detail \| quote Oh man. You have no idea how much I want to hunt down and kill the ** out of all those douchebags who ruined my childhood. Good. -- i consider myself a very positive influence on the youths of my community http://sonicgenerationart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/slider15.jpg <cite>Sir Cobain posted [p:628719] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> rammtay \| Posted 1/4/2012 2:40:00 PM \| message detail \| quoteOh man. You have no idea how much I want to hunt down and kill the ** out of all those douchebags who ruined my childhood. Good. -- i consider myself a very positive influence on the youths of my communityhttp://sonicgenerationart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/slider15.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biolizard28 01/04/12 11:43:00 AM #29:	I could have sworn the "stand your ground" defense only applied on one's own property, but this is a textbook example of murder in self defense anyway. The kid's social life is already ruined anyway, since he's going to be a labeled a psycho by the victim's family and friends. And who is anyone else to argue? -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] <cite>Biolizard28 posted [p:628720] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> I could have sworn the "stand your ground" defense only applied on one's own property, but this is a textbook example of murder in self defense anyway.The kid's social life is already ruined anyway, since he's going to be a labeled a psycho by the victim's family and friends. And who is anyone else to argue? -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 01/04/12 11:45:00 AM #30:	From: Liquid Wind \| #027 What you're asking for is some sort of Wild West style law enforcement. If you attack me I can kill you. absolutely. if you want to attack someone you should accept the possibility of death, if you don't want to die just behave in a civilized manner. there's always this possibility anyway, there's just no reason the law should protect the instigator. Yep, exactly this. I have a sign right in front of my door saying if you break in, you are going to die (paraphrased, bought at a Kentucky Flee market, nice carved sign, good wood, ignores the elements) It is a simple concept, I shoot dead anyone who so much as steps foot in my families house. It is the same on this, if you punch me in the face (can legitimately kill someone) you are going to be ended. Everyone should have a concealed firearm permit for this exact reason. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:628721] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> From: Liquid Wind \| #027What you're asking for is some sort of Wild West style law enforcement.If you attack me I can kill you.absolutely. if you want to attack someone you should accept the possibility of death, if you don't want to die just behave in a civilized manner. there's always this possibility anyway, there's just no reason the law should protect the instigator.Yep, exactly this. I have a sign right in front of my door saying if you break in, you are going to die (paraphrased, bought at a Kentucky Flee market, nice carved sign, good wood, ignores the elements) It is a simple concept, I shoot dead anyone who so much as steps foot in my families house. It is the same on this, if you punch me in the face (can legitimately kill someone) you are going to be ended. Everyone should have a concealed firearm permit for this exact reason. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 01/04/12 11:47:00 AM #31:	As someone who was picked on in high school and got into many fights, it just seems ridiculous that this is allowed to go unpunished. Bullying and fighting is just something that happens. The bullied either learn to fight back or get better at running away. "Standing your ground" doesn't mean murdering a guy for hitting you one time. If I were the bullies' friends I'd want to kill this guy, y'know, for "justice" and all that. <cite>colliding posted [p:628722] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> As someone who was picked on in high school and got into many fights, it just seems ridiculous that this is allowed to go unpunished. Bullying and fighting is just something that happens. The bullied either learn to fight back or get better at running away. "Standing your ground" doesn't mean murdering a guy for hitting you one time. If I were the bullies' friends I'd want to kill this guy, y'know, for "justice" and all that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 01/04/12 11:49:00 AM #32:	As long as you accept the following scenario will happen a lot too. I don't like you. So I will provoke you into attacking me, and then reveal my hidden knife and slash your throat. Yeahhh! -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:628723] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> As long as you accept the following scenario will happen a lot too.I don't like you. So I will provoke you into attacking me, and then reveal my hidden knife and slash your throat. Yeahhh! -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 01/04/12 11:49:00 AM #33:	The bullied either learn to fight back he kinda did -- http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs462.ash1/25378_426337043573_299696888573_5469519_6175407_n.jpg <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:628724] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> The bullied either learn to fight back he kinda did -- http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs462.ash1/25378_426337043573_299696888573_5469519_6175407_n.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 01/04/12 11:50:00 AM #34:	it just seems ridiculous that this is allowed to go unpunished. Bullying and fighting is just something that happens fighting is one thing if it's agreed upon, bringing your whole gang with you to ensure that your victim can't run away is another. <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:628725] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> it just seems ridiculous that this is allowed to go unpunished. Bullying and fighting is just something that happensfighting is one thing if it's agreed upon, bringing your whole gang with you to ensure that your victim can't run away is another. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 01/04/12 11:51:00 AM #35:	Slippery slope nonsense. This kid purposefully let everyone know he was armed, then walked well out of his way to avoid any altercation. He was followed all the way, and attacked. If anything, the douchebag bully deserves a Darwin Award -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:628726] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> Slippery slope nonsense. This kid purposefully let everyone know he was armed, then walked well out of his way to avoid any altercation. He was followed all the way, and attacked. If anything, the douchebag bully deserves a Darwin Award -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 01/04/12 11:51:00 AM #36:	As long as you accept the following scenario will happen a lot too. I don't like you. So I will provoke you into attacking me, and then reveal my hidden knife and slash your throat. Yeahhh! provoked how exactly? if you make physical contact, even a light shove, you can't claim self defense, you're just going to talk people into throwing a punch when they know the laws aren't protecting them? <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:628727] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> As long as you accept the following scenario will happen a lot too.I don't like you. So I will provoke you into attacking me, and then reveal my hidden knife and slash your throat. Yeahhh!provoked how exactly? if you make physical contact, even a light shove, you can't claim self defense, you're just going to talk people into throwing a punch when they know the laws aren't protecting them? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biolizard28 01/04/12 11:52:00 AM #37:	Nobody "deserves" to die. Cut the s*** with your tough guy routine. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] <cite>Biolizard28 posted [p:628728] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> Nobody "deserves" to die.Cut the s*** with your tough guy routine. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 01/04/12 11:54:00 AM #38:	From: pjbasis \| #032 I don't like you. So I will provoke you into attacking me, and then reveal my hidden knife and slash your throat. Yeahhh! You're acting like people who are provoked into attacking are completely justified in doing so. A provoked attack can be just as deadly as(or more deadly than) an unprovoked attack. And going back to the context of this story, it is fact that this kid tried to avoid fighting the bully. This isn't even close to provoking an attack and killing. The bully was fully intent on attacking the kid whether he wanted to fight or not. -- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. <cite>KingButz posted [p:628729] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> From: pjbasis \| #032I don't like you. So I will provoke you into attacking me, and then reveal my hidden knife and slash your throat. Yeahhh!You're acting like people who are provoked into attacking are completely justified in doing so. A provoked attack can be just as deadly as(or more deadly than) an unprovoked attack.And going back to the context of this story, it is fact that this kid tried to avoid fighting the bully. This isn't even close to provoking an attack and killing. The bully was fully intent on attacking the kid whether he wanted to fight or not. -- My Japanese alter-ego.Hey all this is Bartz btw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 01/04/12 11:55:00 AM #39:	I guess my only problem is from the wording in the article it doesn't seem like the dude made it clear to the bully that he had a knife. It says he showed it to people on the bus, but not necessarily the bully. It seems the kid was only hit one time, and then stabbed the guy until he was dead. Even considering the bully brought his friends with him, I don't see how lethal force was required here. I don't think the guy should get charged with murder or anything, but it does seem like this law is cruel towards the bully's family. <cite>colliding posted [p:628730] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> I guess my only problem is from the wording in the article it doesn't seem like the dude made it clear to the bully that he had a knife. It says he showed it to people on the bus, but not necessarily the bully. It seems the kid was only hit one time, and then stabbed the guy until he was dead. Even considering the bully brought his friends with him, I don't see how lethal force was required here. I don't think the guy should get charged with murder or anything, but it does seem like this law is cruel towards the bully's family. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 01/04/12 11:55:00 AM #40:	Nobody "deserves" to die. a lot of people deserve to die, and this isn't an outlandish viewpoint, the death penalty is still a common punishment for severe crimes. maybe this guy didn't deserve to be killed, but he certainly invited it by attacking someone that he knew was armed with a lethal weapon <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:628731] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> Nobody "deserves" to die.a lot of people deserve to die, and this isn't an outlandish viewpoint, the death penalty is still a common punishment for severe crimes. maybe this guy didn't deserve to be killed, but he certainly invited it by attacking someone that he knew was armed with a lethal weapon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 01/04/12 11:56:00 AM #41:	provoked how exactly? if you make physical contact, even a light shove, you can't claim self defense, you're just going to talk people into throwing a punch when they know the laws aren't protecting them? If we're living in your world where everyone is afraid of violence because the law won't protect them, sure it'll work. But people today will punch you if you insult their pride easily. This kid purposefully let everyone know he was armed, The article mentions the kid showed his knife to two teens on the bus, not the entire bus or the bully. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:628732] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> provoked how exactly? if you make physical contact, even a light shove, you can't claim self defense, you're just going to talk people into throwing a punch when they know the laws aren't protecting them? If we're living in your world where everyone is afraid of violence because the law won't protect them, sure it'll work. But people today will punch you if you insult their pride easily. This kid purposefully let everyone know he was armed, The article mentions the kid showed his knife to two teens on the bus, not the entire bus or the bully. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 01/04/12 11:56:00 AM #42:	From: colliding \| #040 I guess my only problem is from the wording in the article it doesn't seem like the dude made it clear to the bully that he had a knife. It says he showed it to people on the bus, but not necessarily the bully. It seems the kid was only hit one time, and then stabbed the guy until he was dead. Even considering the bully brought his friends with him, I don't see how lethal force was required here. I don't think the guy should get charged with murder or anything, but it does seem like this law is cruel towards the bully's family. It says clearly that the bully wouldn't let him get away. -- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover, God himself, be your hope. You have to be your own hope. <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:628733] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> From: colliding \| #040I guess my only problem is from the wording in the article it doesn't seem like the dude made it clear to the bully that he had a knife. It says he showed it to people on the bus, but not necessarily the bully. It seems the kid was only hit one time, and then stabbed the guy until he was dead. Even considering the bully brought his friends with him, I don't see how lethal force was required here. I don't think the guy should get charged with murder or anything, but it does seem like this law is cruel towards the bully's family.It says clearly that the bully wouldn't let him get away. -- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover, God himself, be your hope. You have to be your own hope. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 01/04/12 11:57:00 AM #43:	Simple solution if you don't want to get killed: Don't bully. -- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. <cite>KingButz posted [p:628734] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> Simple solution if you don't want to get killed: Don't bully. -- My Japanese alter-ego.Hey all this is Bartz btw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 01/04/12 11:57:00 AM #44:	But people today will punch you if you insult their pride easily. which is exactly why the laws need to be changed, people are used to being able to get away with behaving like apes. we're better than that and there should be zero tolerance for it. <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:628735] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> But people today will punch you if you insult their pride easily.which is exactly why the laws need to be changed, people are used to being able to get away with behaving like apes. we're better than that and there should be zero tolerance for it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 01/04/12 12:00:00 PM #45:	From: pjbasis \| #041 If we're living in your world where everyone is afraid of violence because the law won't protect them, sure it'll work. But people today will punch you if you insult their pride easily. You're still ignoring that there was no provocation and the kid walking away. You have no ground to stand on with this point, so just stop and move on to something else. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:628736] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> From: pjbasis \| #041If we're living in your world where everyone is afraid of violence because the law won't protect them, sure it'll work. But people today will punch you if you insult their pride easily.You're still ignoring that there was no provocation and the kid walking away. You have no ground to stand on with this point, so just stop and move on to something else. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."-Toad, SMB3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 01/04/12 12:00:00 PM #46:	*SupremeZero posted...* From: colliding \| #040 I guess my only problem is from the wording in the article it doesn't seem like the dude made it clear to the bully that he had a knife. It says he showed it to people on the bus, but not necessarily the bully. It seems the kid was only hit one time, and then stabbed the guy until he was dead. Even considering the bully brought his friends with him, I don't see how lethal force was required here. I don't think the guy should get charged with murder or anything, but it does seem like this law is cruel towards the bully's family. It says clearly that the bully wouldn't let him get away. Objection! It's unclear whether the bully had knowledge of the knife though. <cite>colliding posted [p:628737] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> SupremeZero posted...From: colliding \| #040I guess my only problem is from the wording in the article it doesn't seem like the dude made it clear to the bully that he had a knife. It says he showed it to people on the bus, but not necessarily the bully. It seems the kid was only hit one time, and then stabbed the guy until he was dead. Even considering the bully brought his friends with him, I don't see how lethal force was required here. I don't think the guy should get charged with murder or anything, but it does seem like this law is cruel towards the bully's family.It says clearly that the bully wouldn't let him get away.Objection! It's unclear whether the bully had knowledge of the knife though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 01/04/12 12:02:00 PM #47:	From: colliding \| #046 *SupremeZero posted...* From: colliding \| #040 I guess my only problem is from the wording in the article it doesn't seem like the dude made it clear to the bully that he had a knife. It says he showed it to people on the bus, but not necessarily the bully. It seems the kid was only hit one time, and then stabbed the guy until he was dead. Even considering the bully brought his friends with him, I don't see how lethal force was required here. I don't think the guy should get charged with murder or anything, but it does seem like this law is cruel towards the bully's family. It says clearly that the bully wouldn't let him get away. Objection! It's unclear whether the bully had knowledge of the knife though. So bullying is ok as long as the victim is unarmed? The bully should not have attacked him in the first place. Period. -- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. <cite>KingButz posted [p:628738] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> From: colliding \| #046SupremeZero posted...From: colliding \| #040I guess my only problem is from the wording in the article it doesn't seem like the dude made it clear to the bully that he had a knife. It says he showed it to people on the bus, but not necessarily the bully. It seems the kid was only hit one time, and then stabbed the guy until he was dead. Even considering the bully brought his friends with him, I don't see how lethal force was required here. I don't think the guy should get charged with murder or anything, but it does seem like this law is cruel towards the bully's family.It says clearly that the bully wouldn't let him get away.Objection! It's unclear whether the bully had knowledge of the knife though.So bullying is ok as long as the victim is unarmed? The bully should not have attacked him in the first place. Period. -- My Japanese alter-ego.Hey all this is Bartz btw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
My Immortal 01/04/12 12:05:00 PM #48:	What a horrible situation. On one hand, the bully didn't deserve to die, but you can't fault the kid for defending himself. Yeah, the kid could have shows the knife, or just cut the bully to get him to back off, but what - you're going to carry the knife at all times with you? I guarantee if he cut the bully to scare him off the bully would just come back a different day even more angry at you. :\ I don't know if the situation was handled the best it could, but you can't blame the kid. -- http://www.backloggery.com/myimmortal <cite>My Immortal posted [p:628739] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> What a horrible situation. On one hand, the bully didn't deserve to die, but you can't fault the kid for defending himself.Yeah, the kid could have shows the knife, or just cut the bully to get him to back off, but what - you're going to carry the knife at all times with you? I guarantee if he cut the bully to scare him off the bully would just come back a different day even more angry at you. :\ I don't know if the situation was handled the best it could, but you can't blame the kid. -- http://www.backloggery.com/myimmortal </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sorozone 01/04/12 12:06:00 PM #49:	From: colliding \| #046 *SupremeZero posted...* From: colliding \| #040 I guess my only problem is from the wording in the article it doesn't seem like the dude made it clear to the bully that he had a knife. It says he showed it to people on the bus, but not necessarily the bully. It seems the kid was only hit one time, and then stabbed the guy until he was dead. Even considering the bully brought his friends with him, I don't see how lethal force was required here. I don't think the guy should get charged with murder or anything, but it does seem like this law is cruel towards the bully's family. It says clearly that the bully wouldn't let him get away. Objection! It's unclear whether the bully had knowledge of the knife though. I don't get why this is relevant. If you are going to pick a fight with someone you know nothing about for the sake of bullying, then the bully should be prepared if the guy is armed or not. It's entirely the bully's fault here. -- - <cite>Sorozone posted [p:628740] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> From: colliding \| #046SupremeZero posted...From: colliding \| #040I guess my only problem is from the wording in the article it doesn't seem like the dude made it clear to the bully that he had a knife. It says he showed it to people on the bus, but not necessarily the bully. It seems the kid was only hit one time, and then stabbed the guy until he was dead. Even considering the bully brought his friends with him, I don't see how lethal force was required here. I don't think the guy should get charged with murder or anything, but it does seem like this law is cruel towards the bully's family.It says clearly that the bully wouldn't let him get away.Objection! It's unclear whether the bully had knowledge of the knife though.I don't get why this is relevant. If you are going to pick a fight with someone you know nothing about for the sake of bullying, then the bully should be prepared if the guy is armed or not. It's entirely the bully's fault here. -- - </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 01/04/12 12:08:00 PM #50:	From: colliding \| #040 I guess my only problem is from the wording in the article it doesn't seem like the dude made it clear to the bully that he had a knife. It says he showed it to people on the bus, but not necessarily the bully. It seems the kid was only hit one time, and then stabbed the guy until he was dead. Even considering the bully brought his friends with him, I don't see how lethal force was required here. I don't think the guy should get charged with murder or anything, but it does seem like this law is cruel towards the bully's family. When you're bullied, you have to make a show of force to stop getting picked on. I was picked on a lot in high school, and it only stopped when I did two things: First, grab the hair of a boy who was three years my senior and straight up pull a chunk away from his scalp to make it clear that I wasn't going to take his BS, and second literally grab a desk and threaten to bludgeon a bastard who ripped the pages off a book I was reading (and I would have gone through with it had the vice-principal not walked in right then and there so I could tell him what happened and get the jerk suspended). Lethal force is harsh, but given mob mentality and the fact that the other dude got seriously physical, I can definitely excuse the kid for protecting his own hide. Horrible things have happened to people too passive to fight back in these situations. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:628741] in Bully is s... [t:61559271]...</cite> <quote> From: colliding \| #040I guess my only problem is from the wording in the article it doesn't seem like the dude made it clear to the bully that he had a knife. It says he showed it to people on the bus, but not necessarily the bully. It seems the kid was only hit one time, and then stabbed the guy until he was dead. Even considering the bully brought his friends with him, I don't see how lethal force was required here. I don't think the guy should get charged with murder or anything, but it does seem like this law is cruel towards the bully's family.When you're bullied, you have to make a show of force to stop getting picked on. I was picked on a lot in high school, and it only stopped when I did two things: First, grab the hair of a boy who was three years my senior and straight up pull a chunk away from his scalp to make it clear that I wasn't going to take his BS, and second literally grab a desk and threaten to bludgeon a bastard who ripped the pages off a book I was reading (and I would have gone through with it had the vice-principal not walked in right then and there so I could tell him what happened and get the jerk suspended). Lethal force is harsh, but given mob mentality and the fact that the other dude got seriously physical, I can definitely excuse the kid for protecting his own hide. Horrible things have happened to people too passive to fight back in these situations. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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