From: LinkMarioSamus | #048
I consider myself a hardcore gamer because I have a hardcore attitude towards gaming
No, you don't.
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LeonhartFour 10/25/11 11:29:00 PM #51: |
From: LinkMarioSamus | #048 No, you don't. -- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sorozone 10/25/11 11:30:00 PM #52: |
From: Ayuyu | #050 Lol, this video is hilarious. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forceful_Dragon 10/25/11 11:31:00 PM #53: |
I couldn't finish that video. Too much cringing.
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OmarsComin 10/25/11 11:32:00 PM #54: |
casual gamers are people who choose AE over 3S
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Ayuyu 10/25/11 11:32:00 PM #55: |
From: Forceful_Dragon | #053 Watch the part around 5:20 at least, like the next 20-30 seconds. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 10/25/11 11:33:00 PM #56: |
From: OmarsComin | #054 Yeah, I want some AE. Let's play. -- http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8516/whatisdesiresig.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 10/25/11 11:39:00 PM #57: |
if you played on 360 I would, but I suspect you play it on PS3!
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LeonhartFour 10/25/11 11:41:00 PM #58: |
LOL 360
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Forceful_Dragon 10/25/11 11:57:00 PM #59: |
From: Ayuyu | #055 Awesome! -- ~Ç~ Eff_Dee http://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/26/11 12:09:00 AM #60: |
I understand the argument that something like CoD is a "casual" game because it has a higher ratio of "casual" players to "hardcore," and yet... I disagree with it because CoD isn't something you can just pick up, play for five minutes, and be good at. It's not Angry Birds or Tetris. To be any good, you have to actually put time into it. That, by default, should make it a "hardcore" game. What's the difference between somebody putting countless hours into CoD and somebody putting countless hours into Dark Souls? -- SEP Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! http://img.imgcake.com/stevenashgifpu.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 10/26/11 12:10:00 AM #61: |
the 3S pros told us that the PS3 had more input lag! 360 seemed pretty sensible.
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OmarsComin 10/26/11 12:11:00 AM #62: |
yeah but for serious I don't think of FPS or sports when I think casual. I think stuff like farmville and the puzzle games my friend's mom plays on computer.
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StealThisSheen 10/26/11 12:15:00 AM #63: |
OmarsComin posted... -- SEP Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! http://img.imgcake.com/stevenashgifpu.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkMarioSamus 10/26/11 12:22:00 AM #64: |
LeonhartFour posted...
From: LinkMarioSamus | #048 I consider myself a hardcore gamer because I have a hardcore attitude towards gaming No, you don't. Can't be much of one now considering I have no access to a console! -- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 10/26/11 1:24:00 AM #65: |
GuessMyUserName posted...
From: TheRock1525 | Posted: 10/26/2011 1:52:26 AM | #042 So a casual gamer instantly becomes a hardcore gamer if he sticks Dark Souls into his PS3 for five minutes? Its basically what you're saying. ... Have you been listening? Because that's not what anyone is saying. In fact we've been saying the opposite. CoD is a casual game because it has such a high ratio of casual gamers to hardcore gamers. Inversely, Dark Souls is considered a "hardcore" game because it has such a high ratio of hardcore gamers to casual gamers. The ratio. Know what that means? There ARE hardcore gamers that play CoD, and there ARE casual gamers that play Dark Souls. If a hardcore gamer plays CoD, he's still a hardcore gamer. If a casual gamer plays Dark Souls, he's still a casual gamer. And once again, YOU'RE not getting it. Let's, for s***s and giggles, switch the ratios around. Dark Souls has a great number of casual gamers to hardcore gamers, while Call of Duty has a greater number of hardcore gamers to casual gamers. By your definition, Dark Souls would become a casual game. Despite the fact that the game is the EXACT SAME GAME, only with a larger casual fanbase than hardcore. So how can a game suddenly change from hardcore to casual by no other means than "who plays it" when the game isn't any different in either scenario? That's why the concept is so dumb. If super hard as s*** games became popular enough that they attracted a larger following of casual gamers, they'd suddenly become casual games. Why? The game doesn't change in the slightest.. Its the exact same God damn game. Hell, everyone points to Call of Duty but the COD series started as a PC exclusive, something that a lot of casuals don't get into! It's also why I don't like the term "insert game here didn't age well." It's the exact same game as before, its that your expectations have changed. It doesn't bother me as much as the casual/hardcore game nonsense, though. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 10/26/11 1:40:00 AM #66: |
Right, if the ratios were reversed, Dark Souls would be a casual game, and CoD would be a hardcore game.
"Hardcore" and "Casual" do not refer to quality. At all. And yes, Call of Duty wasn't always casual-bait. It became a hit, and it became one of those games that, if you're a gamer of any kind: whether it takes up every waking breath of your life, or you just like playing here and there, it's a game you're familiar with. It doesn't refer to quality of the game. It doesn't refer to ANYTHING about a game. Casual games can be completely different things. CoD is an FPS, Zelda is an adventure game, Mario is a platformer, Madden is a sports game, GTA is a sandbox game. But they're all casual titles. A mainstream casual gamer is someone who only plays the biggest hits and nothing more. They don't invest they're lives into hearing all the news, or they don't want to spend the money on every game that comes out, they just want to play the big hits and that's it. CoD/Zelda/Mario/etc are all highly popular games, they're the games that every gamer has played. They're the big names, whether gaming is a big hobby of yours, or you're an every-now-and-then gamer, you know these games. And THAT is what makes them the casual status. That's all. It's nothing to get upset over. -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/senkagura5mu.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 10/26/11 2:03:00 AM #67: |
Right, if the ratios were reversed, Dark Souls would be a casual game, and CoD would be a hardcore game.
"Hardcore" and "Casual" do not refer to quality. At all. Never said a damn thing about quality in this argument. A mainstream casual gamer is someone who only plays the biggest hits and nothing more. Now what the f*** is this? A minute ago, you were pointing out how a casual gamer could play Dark Souls, and now it's suddenly they ONLY play the biggest hits? Considering the fact that Demons' Souls (no offense) finished 11th its first month out in NA, I doubt it can be considered one of the "biggest hits." This is why this whole concept is dumb. You give this game a label based on something that has nothing to do with the game and everything to do with who plays it. If you label a game a sports game, it doesn't suddenly become something else because a majority of people who play the game are non-sports fans. It's a sports game. It will always be a sports game, no matter who plays it. But slap on a stupid tag like casual or hardcore and suddenly it can change based on something the game has no effect on. Do you get my point now? Do you finally see why calling any game "casual" or "hardcore" doesn't make any sense? Do you see why it makes sense to label a game based on what it actually is, instead of what type of people like it? -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 10/26/11 2:08:00 AM #68: |
In fact, if we're going use fanbases to determine this, I'm going to start using the terms "chocolatey" and "vanilly" for games, based on which games have a larger black fanbase and which have a larger white fanbase.
NBA 2k12, such a "chocolatey" game. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dauntless Hunter 10/26/11 2:27:00 AM #69: |
From: TheRock1525 | #068 What if it's more popular among Asians or Hispanics or some other group. -- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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baron von toast 10/26/11 2:30:00 AM #70: |
People who don't play Mars Matrix.
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TheRock1525 10/26/11 2:36:00 AM #71: |
Dauntless Hunter posted...
From: TheRock1525 | #068 In fact, if we're going use fanbases to determine this, I'm going to start using the terms "chocolatey" and "vanilly" for games, based on which games have a larger black fanbase and which have a larger white fanbase. NBA 2k12, such a "chocolatey" game. What if it's more popular among Asians or Hispanics or some other group. Asians shall be "lemony" and Hispanics "caramely." For example: "Starcraft is probably the most lemony game out there." -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kurtfisto 10/26/11 2:38:00 AM #72: |
I doubt anyone who frequents a gaming website forum is a casual gamer.
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Biolizard28 10/26/11 4:28:00 AM #73: |
From: TheRock1525 | #042 This is actually a good point. You wouldn't assume I was a casual gamer even if Dark Souls was the only game I ever played in my entire life, because you associate it with hardcore gamers. I enjoy some Call of Duty on occasion, but that doesn't mean I'm any less serious about my hobby than you are. Casual and hardcore are all about degrees. How much time you put into gaming, how wide your scope, how many years of experience. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Senjougaharaism 10/26/11 5:10:00 AM #74: |
for me a casual gamer is someone who occasionally plays games but not for hours upon hours. most of the time people like that also prefer simple games that don't require hours of investment to become any good at (like for example dark souls) but I'm sure there are casual gamers out there that play games like that.
also trying to come up with a strict definition for a casual gamer seems pretty silly to me because it's such a subjective thing. there really isn't a set point of where a person stops being a casual gamer and becomes a hardcore gamer. -- DON~! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UberPyro64 10/26/11 7:03:00 AM #75: |
Chrono1219 posted...
The problem is casual and hardcore gamers are way too broad of a spectrum to really define. That's why so many subtypes of gamers exist like... 1. The Japanophile 2. The Madden Men 3. Button Mashers 4. Achievers 5. Serial Grinders 6. Nostalgiac 7. Facebooker 8. Peripheraler 9. Nintendoite 10. Pokemon Trainer 11. The War Hero 12. The Perfecter and more. You should wright a book. -- Burning Spies is one of my Specialties! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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neonreaper 10/26/11 7:18:00 AM #76: |
Someone who doesn't expect to invest a lot of time into gaming. Sure, they might get sucked into a game for a brief while, but it's not part of their expectations nor is it in their long term prospects.
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Colegreen_c12 10/26/11 7:32:00 AM #77: |
Games aren't really causual are hardcore. They just tend to either cater to casuals or they don't.
Its like you cant call a dumb movie intellectual just because a bunch of intellectuals like it. What your talking about is mainstream or not, which is not the same thing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ace_Killjoy 10/26/11 12:02:00 PM #78: |
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If you have to ask, you're streets behind. Ok. Before I go through the next twenty-something posts, I must comment on this. lol i c wat u did thar. Edit: Anyway, I pretty much got the answer I was looking for... I guess. -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind. http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 10/26/11 12:05:00 PM #79: |
From: TheRock1525 | Posted: 10/26/2011 5:03:25 AM | #067 You're misreading things. When I say that a casual player only plays the big hits, I mean that's generally what they do. It's not a rule that "if you play a hardcore game, you're a hardcore gamer". If someone's a casual gamer, they only play games every now and then, they're not going to be investing a lot of time in researching anything, they generally just going to pick up what they hear. This most often means they'll play the big games. They MIGHT pick up a more obscure game, but it's not common. There is no rule that if a casual gamer touches a hardcore gamer they're suddenly not casual. You are not casual for playing CoD, and you are not hardcore for playing Dark Souls. It's because someone is casual that it is less likely play something like Dark Souls. But slap on a stupid tag like casual or hardcore and suddenly it can change based on something the game has no effect on. No. NOTHING changes. The label of "hardcore" game and "casual" game DOES NOT affect the game. Just because a game is a casual game doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it. It's just a term for statistics. The casual games are the games everyone plays, whether you're well-versed in gaming, or just play every now and then. Do you get my point now? Do you finally see why calling any game "casual" or "hardcore" doesn't make any sense? Do you see why it makes sense to label a game based on what it actually is, instead of what type of people like it? I already told you: we DO label the people. They're the casual gamers and hardcore gamers. Hardcore games and a casual games are attributes of those labels, not the definitions. The definition of a casual gamer is someone that doesn't invest tons of time in gaming. Usually, if someone doesn't invest all their time in gaming, they'll only play the big titles. These are the casual games. Games that everybody knows, whether you're hardcore or casual. You're looking at the label all wrong, applying a negative connotation where you shouldn't. There is a reason for this, because as I said earlier in the topic: there's two types of casual gamers. Mainstream casual, and partygame casual. Partygame casual is reletively new group that was heavily popularized by the Wii. THESE are the people that regular gamers, mainstream casual and hardcore, often look down on. They play the deamed "nongames" or "toy games", of Just Dance, Wii Party, Wii Sports, etc. As I said: these gamers are relatively new. Before this generation, the mainstream casuals were the ONLY casuals. They were THE casuals, and there was no negative connotation to being a "casual gamer", because all it meant is you like games, but you also have a life. Then Wii came along, popularizing a new type of casual gamers that play the "crap games" and are often blamed as the cancer of gaming today. "Casual gamer" still applies to both types, because both types play games casually. When people talk about hating casuals, they don't mean the mainstream casuals (usually >_>), they mean the partygame casuals. -- sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wg64Z 10/26/11 12:08:00 PM #80: |
A casual gamer is in blissful ignorance and just plays games for the lulz, not worrying about hacks, leader boards or DLC.
We could all stand to be a bit more casual. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/26/11 3:27:00 PM #81: |
Yeah, GMUN... I think you're just overly complicating things. -- SEP Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! http://img.imgcake.com/stevenashgifpu.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bigwig_rah 10/26/11 3:33:00 PM #82: |
This is easy, a casual gamer is someone who only plays a small amount of games and vice versa. Someone who only owns a Wii and an iPhone can be a hardcore gamer if they spend a lot of time playing a variety of different games. Someone who has a PS3 and Demon Souls can be a casual gamer if that's all they play.
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Dark Young Link 10/26/11 3:42:00 PM #83: |
To me?
A person who plays video games every once in a while, but doesn't make a hobby out of it. That's all. A "casual" gamer can play Wii, or WoW. The game doesn't matter, the attitude does. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 10/26/11 5:40:00 PM #84: |
From: StealThisSheen | Posted: 10/26/2011 6:27:21 PM | #081 Argh how many times do I have to say: that's not what I'm saying at all The definition of a casual gamer is someone that doesn't invest tons of time in gaming. Usually, if someone doesn't invest all their time in gaming, they'll only play the big titles. These are the casual games. Games that everybody knows, whether you're hardcore or casual. The games don't define the gamer, it's the gamer that defines the games. -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/shokotanzeldafrenzy3um.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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paperwarior 10/26/11 5:52:00 PM #85: |
If you spend significant amounts of money on (and/or pirate a lot of) video games and play them, know what games are coming out and when, and consider video games a primary hobby of yours, you're more like a hardcore gamer. If you play video games a bit to pass the time, you're more like a casual gamer. I'd also consider someone who focuses on getting really good at one genre or game to be like a hardcore gamer.
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