Board 8 > Ok. So what exactly is a casual gamer?

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Ace_Killjoy 10/25/11 9:42:00 PM #1:	(I would say "topic" and leave it at that, but that's lame.) Pizza. -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind. http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif <cite>Ace_Killjoy posted [p:478221] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> (I would say "topic" and leave it at that, but that's lame.)Pizza. -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind.http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 10/25/11 9:43:00 PM #2:	A gamer who plays games casually. -- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:478222] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> A gamer who plays games casually. -- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pretty_Odd 10/25/11 9:43:00 PM #3:	Someone who plays Call of Duty. -- Kiwi <cite>Pretty_Odd posted [p:478223] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Someone who plays Call of Duty. -- Kiwi </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Weakupedia 10/25/11 9:43:00 PM #4:	YOU. -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe <cite>Weakupedia posted [p:478224] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> YOU. -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ace_Killjoy 10/25/11 9:44:00 PM #5:	Leon is the closest to an actual answer. -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind. http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif <cite>Ace_Killjoy posted [p:478225] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Leon is the closest to an actual answer. -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind.http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ace_Killjoy 10/25/11 9:51:00 PM #6:	Perhaps I need more emphasis... "What exactly is a casual gamer?" -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind. http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif <cite>Ace_Killjoy posted [p:478226] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Perhaps I need more emphasis..."What exactly is a casual gamer?" -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind.http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pretty_Odd 10/25/11 9:53:00 PM #7:	That was an actual answer... Someone who plays just plays games on their cell phone and maybe owns a Wii and plays casual games are not casual gamers. They're just an everyday person in today's society. A casual gamer is someone who plays Call of Duty. That is literally the definition now. They're hardcore about it, but it's the only game they play or even know about. -- Kiwi <cite>Pretty_Odd posted [p:478227] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> That was an actual answer...Someone who plays just plays games on their cell phone and maybe owns a Wii and plays casual games are not casual gamers. They're just an everyday person in today's society. A casual gamer is someone who plays Call of Duty. That is literally the definition now. They're hardcore about it, but it's the only game they play or even know about. -- Kiwi </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MUKMASTER2 10/25/11 9:55:00 PM #8:	Someone who doesn't waste their time bragging about how "hardcore" they are, and then whine and nag about games/companies they don't like. -- "If he's so good, why isn't he playing in the SEC?" ~McAdamMc "Yeah, that Walter Payton sucked, playing in the SWAC" <cite>MUKMASTER2 posted [p:478228] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Someone who doesn't waste their time bragging about how "hardcore" they are, and then whine and nag about games/companies they don't like. -- "If he's so good, why isn't he playing in the SEC?" ~McAdamMc"Yeah, that Walter Payton sucked, playing in the SWAC" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji76 10/25/11 9:56:00 PM #9:	exclusively plays call of duty and/or madden -- Menji~ and you could write a Bad Romance http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/508/badk.gif <cite>Menji76 posted [p:478229] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> exclusively plays call of duty and/or madden -- Menji~ and you could write a Bad Romancehttp://img686.imageshack.us/img686/508/badk.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 10/25/11 9:58:00 PM #10:	Someone who never played Dark Souls -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:478230] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Someone who never played Dark Souls -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ace_Killjoy 10/25/11 9:58:00 PM #11:	So... they play games just for the sake of playing them? These answers are confusing. Can't someone be a casual gamer and NOT play CoD? DETAILS, PEOPLE!! -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind. http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif <cite>Ace_Killjoy posted [p:478231] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> So... they play games just for the sake of playing them?These answers are confusing. Can't someone be a casual gamer and NOT play CoD?DETAILS, PEOPLE!! -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind.http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 10/25/11 9:58:00 PM #12:	Id say a casual gamer is one who only enjoys a small amount of genres. Thus they only focus on a small part of gaming news and gaming history. Even if they spend hours on end playing that 1 game or 1 genre, im not sure if i can call them a "hardcore gamer". Id call them a hardcore jrpg player, or hardcore fps player. But for overall gaming? Id say they are casual. There are plenty of CoD players that id say casual gamers. When a game sells 20 mill, ya, a good portion are casual gamers. But there are plenty of CoD players who play the game nonstop for a month or two, and then move on to another game from a completely different genre. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:478232] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Id say a casual gamer is one who only enjoys a small amount of genres. Thus they only focus on a small part of gaming news and gaming history. Even if they spend hours on end playing that 1 game or 1 genre, im not sure if i can call them a "hardcore gamer". Id call them a hardcore jrpg player, or hardcore fps player. But for overall gaming? Id say they are casual.There are plenty of CoD players that id say casual gamers. When a game sells 20 mill, ya, a good portion are casual gamers. But there are plenty of CoD players who play the game nonstop for a month or two, and then move on to another game from a completely different genre. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFaddict1313 10/25/11 9:59:00 PM #13:	Someone who doesn't want to dig deeper beyond the surface of the game. They don't want to know any of the subtleties of the game mechanics and if they keep failing at something which requires that knowledge/execution they'll give up before they learn/master it. Doesn't go out of their way to find new or interesting games. There's not really much of an answer for this question, though, which I'm sure is why you made this topic. -- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] <cite>FFaddict1313 posted [p:478233] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Someone who doesn't want to dig deeper beyond the surface of the game. They don't want to know any of the subtleties of the game mechanics and if they keep failing at something which requires that knowledge/execution they'll give up before they learn/master it. Doesn't go out of their way to find new or interesting games.There's not really much of an answer for this question, though, which I'm sure is why you made this topic. -- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ace_Killjoy 10/25/11 10:00:00 PM #14:	*FFaddict1313 posted...* Someone who doesn't want to dig deeper beyond the surface of the game. They don't want to know any of the subtleties of the game mechanics and if they keep failing at something which requires that knowledge/execution they'll give up before they learn/master it. Doesn't go out of their way to find new or interesting games. There's not really much of an answer for this question, though, which I'm sure is why you made this topic. Best answer so far. Well, I must not be a casual gamer, then. -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind. http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif <cite>Ace_Killjoy posted [p:478234] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> FFaddict1313 posted...Someone who doesn't want to dig deeper beyond the surface of the game. They don't want to know any of the subtleties of the game mechanics and if they keep failing at something which requires that knowledge/execution they'll give up before they learn/master it. Doesn't go out of their way to find new or interesting games.There's not really much of an answer for this question, though, which I'm sure is why you made this topic.Best answer so far.Well, I must not be a casual gamer, then. -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind.http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ace_Killjoy 10/25/11 10:02:00 PM #15:	*Metal_DK posted...* Id say a casual gamer is one who only enjoys a small amount of genres. Thus they only focus on a small part of gaming news and gaming history. Even if they spend hours on end playing that 1 game or 1 genre, im not sure if i can call them a "hardcore gamer". Id call them a hardcore jrpg player, or hardcore fps player. But for overall gaming? Id say they are casual. There are plenty of CoD players that id say casual gamers. When a game sells 20 mill, ya, a good portion are casual gamers. But there are plenty of CoD players who play the game nonstop for a month or two, and then move on to another game from a completely different genre. Another good answer. By this definition, I am a casual gamer, as I really only care for FPS and Shoot-em-ups. But I see no problem with that. -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind. http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif <cite>Ace_Killjoy posted [p:478235] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Metal_DK posted...Id say a casual gamer is one who only enjoys a small amount of genres. Thus they only focus on a small part of gaming news and gaming history. Even if they spend hours on end playing that 1 game or 1 genre, im not sure if i can call them a "hardcore gamer". Id call them a hardcore jrpg player, or hardcore fps player. But for overall gaming? Id say they are casual.There are plenty of CoD players that id say casual gamers. When a game sells 20 mill, ya, a good portion are casual gamers. But there are plenty of CoD players who play the game nonstop for a month or two, and then move on to another game from a completely different genre.Another good answer.By this definition, I am a casual gamer, as I really only care for FPS and Shoot-em-ups. But I see no problem with that. -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind.http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 10/25/11 10:03:00 PM #16:	From: Ace_Killjoy \| #005 Leon is the closest to an actual answer. Heh I get it, he's a casual gamer. <cite>pjbasis posted [p:478236] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> From: Ace_Killjoy \| #005Leon is the closest to an actual answer.Heh I get it, he's a casual gamer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 10/25/11 10:04:00 PM #17:	At least unlike a lot of people, I don't consider "Casual gamer" to be something negative! -- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:478237] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> At least unlike a lot of people, I don't consider "Casual gamer" to be something negative! -- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?""I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ace_Killjoy 10/25/11 10:05:00 PM #18:	Is there anything wrong with being a casual gamer? Just curious as to what you guys think. -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind. http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif <cite>Ace_Killjoy posted [p:478238] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Is there anything wrong with being a casual gamer?Just curious as to what you guys think. -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind.http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Natwaf_akidna 10/25/11 10:06:00 PM #19:	... could've sworn I asked this a few months ago as well. Anyway, don't care about the Casual/Hardcore connotation much. -- My Little Phineas and Ferb: Summer is Magic! <cite>Natwaf_akidna posted [p:478239] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> ... could've sworn I asked this a few months ago as well.Anyway, don't care about the Casual/Hardcore connotation much. -- My Little Phineas and Ferb: Summer is Magic! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 10/25/11 10:07:00 PM #20:	Casuals is also what people call the ones responsible for games becoming more and more streamlined and cinematic. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:478240] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Casuals is also what people call the ones responsible for games becoming more and more streamlined and cinematic. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 10/25/11 10:10:00 PM #21:	Games cannot be casual, therefore selecting a game and saying "only casuals play it" is incredibly stupid. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:478241] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Games cannot be casual, therefore selecting a game and saying "only casuals play it" is incredibly stupid. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhiteLens 10/25/11 10:10:00 PM #22:	While I tend to have casual playing traits these days (1 or 2 hours at most at any given day), I wouldn't exactly call myself a casual gamer, simply for the sheer amount of stuff I've played before and my ginormous collection. -- http://img.imgcake.com/whitelens/MadokaMagicaMessagejpguj.jpg http://img.imgcake.com/whitelens/MadokaThanksjpgen.jpg <cite>WhiteLens posted [p:478242] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> While I tend to have casual playing traits these days (1 or 2 hours at most at any given day), I wouldn't exactly call myself a casual gamer, simply for the sheer amount of stuff I've played before and my ginormous collection. -- http://img.imgcake.com/whitelens/MadokaMagicaMessagejpguj.jpghttp://img.imgcake.com/whitelens/MadokaThanksjpgen.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 10/25/11 10:12:00 PM #23:	From: TheRock1525 \| #021 Games cannot be casual, therefore selecting a game and saying "only casuals play it" is incredibly stupid. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casual_games http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Casual/ -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:478243] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> From: TheRock1525 \| #021Games cannot be casual, therefore selecting a game and saying "only casuals play it" is incredibly stupid.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casual_gameshttp://store.steampowered.com/genre/Casual/ -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 10/25/11 10:13:00 PM #24:	Oh also Wikipedia's description of a casual gamer while I'm on the page. Casual gamer "Casual gamer" is a loosely defined term used to describe a type of video game player whose time or interest in playing games is limited compared with a hardcore gamer. Casual gamers can conceivably consist of any people who show more than a passing interest in video games, therefore it is difficult to categorize them as a group. For this reason, games which attempt to appeal to the casual player tend to strive for simple rules and ease of game play, the goal being to present a pick-up-and-play experience that people from almost any age group or skill level could enjoy.[6][24][25][26][27] Casual gaming demographics also vary greatly from those of traditional computer games, as the typical casual gamer is older and more predominantly female,[28][29] with over 74% of those purchasing casual games being women -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:478244] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Oh also Wikipedia's description of a casual gamer while I'm on the page.Casual gamer"Casual gamer" is a loosely defined term used to describe a type of video game player whose time or interest in playing games is limited compared with a hardcore gamer. Casual gamers can conceivably consist of any people who show more than a passing interest in video games, therefore it is difficult to categorize them as a group. For this reason, games which attempt to appeal to the casual player tend to strive for simple rules and ease of game play, the goal being to present a pick-up-and-play experience that people from almost any age group or skill level could enjoy.[6][24][25][26][27] Casual gaming demographics also vary greatly from those of traditional computer games, as the typical casual gamer is older and more predominantly female,[28][29] with over 74% of those purchasing casual games being women -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 10/25/11 10:15:00 PM #25:	Gotta break the term up into two types, since those two types are pretty damn different. mainstream casuals, and minigame/partygame casuals mainstream: only plays the biggest games: CoD / Halo / Mario / Zelda / Madden / GTA / etc minigame/partygame: they buy your Carnival Games, Just Dance, your licensed games, Wii Party, and popular mobile games also, just because you play any one of these games doesn't mean you're appart of that catagory - it's only if those are the only games you play -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/23203029StQGo8Ecne.gif <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:478245] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Gotta break the term up into two types, since those two types are pretty damn different.mainstream casuals, and minigame/partygame casualsmainstream: only plays the biggest games: CoD / Halo / Mario / Zelda / Madden / GTA / etcminigame/partygame: they buy your Carnival Games, Just Dance, your licensed games, Wii Party, and popular mobile gamesalso, just because you play any one of these games doesn't mean you're appart of that catagory - it's only if those are the only games you play -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/23203029StQGo8Ecne.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 10/25/11 10:18:00 PM #26:	Games cannot be casual, therefore selecting a game and saying "only casuals play it" is incredibly stupid. a game can be casual if a huge portion of gamers that play it only care about that game, or that genre. The reason why CoD is considered casual by so many isnt the gameplay itself, its the fanbase. Same with WoW. These games have 12+million sales (subscribers). Even the best selling games of this gen usually only hit 2-4 mill....Its kinda odd that these few games just have a 8+ mill advantage on other games. If these gamers were more "hardcore" (caring about other genres), youd see demon's souls sell 10+ mill too. There are hardcore gamers who play CoD. Trust me, there are. Quite a few in fact. But when people say "CoD is a casual game", the reason why i somewhat agree is because there is a disproportionate amount of gamers who only buy the latest CoD/online FPS, and play it every so often. These gamers dont focus on things like gaming history, or the largest gaming news stories. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:478246] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Games cannot be casual, therefore selecting a game and saying "only casuals play it" is incredibly stupid.a game can be casual if a huge portion of gamers that play it only care about that game, or that genre.The reason why CoD is considered casual by so many isnt the gameplay itself, its the fanbase. Same with WoW. These games have 12+million sales (subscribers). Even the best selling games of this gen usually only hit 2-4 mill....Its kinda odd that these few games just have a 8+ mill advantage on other games. If these gamers were more "hardcore" (caring about other genres), youd see demon's souls sell 10+ mill too.There are hardcore gamers who play CoD. Trust me, there are. Quite a few in fact. But when people say "CoD is a casual game", the reason why i somewhat agree is because there is a disproportionate amount of gamers who only buy the latest CoD/online FPS, and play it every so often. These gamers dont focus on things like gaming history, or the largest gaming news stories. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ace_Killjoy 10/25/11 10:19:00 PM #27:	I'm thinking I'm some sort of casual. I mostly play Halo and a few select Shmups. I'll branch out for a game I think I'll be interested in. But then I also like things like Armored Core... -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind. http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif <cite>Ace_Killjoy posted [p:478247] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> I'm thinking I'm some sort of casual.I mostly play Halo and a few select Shmups. I'll branch out for a game I think I'll be interested in.But then I also like things like Armored Core... -- "You dare not look at my explosion? Like some kind of hero?! I'LL KILL YOU!!! ~ Willydahivemind.http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120003/phoenixtrio.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 10/25/11 10:27:00 PM #28:	*Ayuyu posted...* From: TheRock1525 \| #021 Games cannot be casual, therefore selecting a game and saying "only casuals play it" is incredibly stupid. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casual_games http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Casual/ Yeah, don't really give a crap about what wikipedia says. The inherent flaw is describing games as casual/hardcore is that it doesn't include any of the time and effort put in by the player. For example, let's call Call of Duty casual and Dark Souls hardcore. Player A dedicates massive amounts of time and energy into Call of Duty, becoming one of the best players in the game. Player B plays Dark Souls for an hour before giving up and never playing again. But if we go by the games, player A is "casual" and player B is "hardcore." That's why it's dumb. Here's a better way to define it: Casual gamers are gamers who do not dedicate significant amounts of time and effort into gaming, usually favoring genres that encourage quick and easy play but are open to any games that are the same way. Hardcore gamers are gamers who dedicate significant time and effort to become good at gaming, but are not limited by game or genre (ot all hardcore gamers aren't going to enjoy every single genre). -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:478248] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Ayuyu posted...From: TheRock1525 \| #021Games cannot be casual, therefore selecting a game and saying "only casuals play it" is incredibly stupid.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casual_gameshttp://store.steampowered.com/genre/Casual/Yeah, don't really give a crap about what wikipedia says.The inherent flaw is describing games as casual/hardcore is that it doesn't include any of the time and effort put in by the player. For example, let's call Call of Duty casual and Dark Souls hardcore. Player A dedicates massive amounts of time and energy into Call of Duty, becoming one of the best players in the game. Player B plays Dark Souls for an hour before giving up and never playing again. But if we go by the games, player A is "casual" and player B is "hardcore." That's why it's dumb.Here's a better way to define it:Casual gamers are gamers who do not dedicate significant amounts of time and effort into gaming, usually favoring genres that encourage quick and easy play but are open to any games that are the same way.Hardcore gamers are gamers who dedicate significant time and effort to become good at gaming, but are not limited by game or genre (ot all hardcore gamers aren't going to enjoy every single genre). -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 10/25/11 10:28:00 PM #29:	From: TheRock1525 \| #028 Player B plays Dark Souls for an hour before giving up and never playing again Player B would be casual too by that definition though. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:478249] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> From: TheRock1525 \| #028Player B plays Dark Souls for an hour before giving up and never playing againPlayer B would be casual too by that definition though. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 10/25/11 10:31:00 PM #30:	*Ayuyu posted...* From: TheRock1525 \| #028 Player B plays Dark Souls for an hour before giving up and never playing again Player B would be casual too by that definition though. We're going by the game definition though. Games define the gamer in this case, not the effort. And someone just proved my point. He said that casual gamers flock towards Call of Duty. That doesn't make the game casual, the players are. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:478250] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Ayuyu posted...From: TheRock1525 \| #028Player B plays Dark Souls for an hour before giving up and never playing againPlayer B would be casual too by that definition though.We're going by the game definition though. Games define the gamer in this case, not the effort.And someone just proved my point. He said that casual gamers flock towards Call of Duty. That doesn't make the game casual, the players are. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 10/25/11 10:34:00 PM #31:	Imo a casual game is just a game that can be picked up and played by anybody. And I mean played well, with an actual chance of doing good from the get go. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:478251] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Imo a casual game is just a game that can be picked up and played by anybody.And I mean played well, with an actual chance of doing good from the get go. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 10/25/11 10:34:00 PM #32:	CoD is a casual game because it's incredibly popular among casuals. It's not a bad thing for a game to be called a casual game. Mario and Zelda are casual too. -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/tumblrlpvyb5DlkE1r1xnw9o1500em.gif <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:478252] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> CoD is a casual game because it's incredibly popular among casuals.It's not a bad thing for a game to be called a casual game. Mario and Zelda are casual too. -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/tumblrlpvyb5DlkE1r1xnw9o1500em.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metaIslugg 10/25/11 10:34:00 PM #33:	Arguments over ambiguous, subjective terms. When will it end? -- http://i52.tinypic.com/5ugxly.jpg <cite>metaIslugg posted [p:478253] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Arguments over ambiguous, subjective terms. When will it end? -- http://i52.tinypic.com/5ugxly.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 10/25/11 10:35:00 PM #34:	We're going by the game definition though. Games define the gamer in this case, not the effort. And someone just proved my point. He said that casual gamers flock towards Call of Duty. That doesn't make the game casual, the players are. actually, i didnt prove ur point. I proved that games CAN be casual. Its just not based so much on gameplay and based moreso on the fans that play the game. Call of duty IS a casual game because so many casual gamers buy it. There are hardcore gamers who buy CoD. They are the ones who are just as excited for Skyrim, or Skyward Sword, or Heroes of Might and Magic 6. However the CoD fanbase as a whole has a smaller % of gamers who think that way. I guess im defining a game by its fanbase, which you might not like. But yes, games can be considered casual. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:478254] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> We're going by the game definition though. Games define the gamer in this case, not the effort.And someone just proved my point. He said that casual gamers flock towards Call of Duty. That doesn't make the game casual, the players are.actually, i didnt prove ur point. I proved that games CAN be casual. Its just not based so much on gameplay and based moreso on the fans that play the game. Call of duty IS a casual game because so many casual gamers buy it.There are hardcore gamers who buy CoD. They are the ones who are just as excited for Skyrim, or Skyward Sword, or Heroes of Might and Magic 6. However the CoD fanbase as a whole has a smaller % of gamers who think that way.I guess im defining a game by its fanbase, which you might not like. But yes, games can be considered casual. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 10/25/11 10:37:00 PM #35:	*GuessMyUserName posted...* CoD is a casual game because it's incredibly popular among casuals. It's not a bad thing for a game to be called a casual game. Mario and Zelda are casual too. They also contain hardcore fanbases. So why give it a label like "casual" when it has fans of both types? Why not define the gamer rather than the game, since its a lot easier to do that than pick a game and assign it a side? -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:478255] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> GuessMyUserName posted...CoD is a casual game because it's incredibly popular among casuals.It's not a bad thing for a game to be called a casual game. Mario and Zelda are casual too.They also contain hardcore fanbases. So why give it a label like "casual" when it has fans of both types? Why not define the gamer rather than the game, since its a lot easier to do that than pick a game and assign it a side? -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 10/25/11 10:40:00 PM #36:	You don't define sports teams as casual or hardcore, you define their fans as casual or hardcore. You don't define movies/TV shows as casual or hardcore, you define their fans as casual or hardcore. Yet with games, we're supposed to define them as casual or hardcore, rather than the fans? Sorry, I'm never going to agree to that. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:478256] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> You don't define sports teams as casual or hardcore, you define their fans as casual or hardcore.You don't define movies/TV shows as casual or hardcore, you define their fans as casual or hardcore.Yet with games, we're supposed to define them as casual or hardcore, rather than the fans?Sorry, I'm never going to agree to that. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 10/25/11 10:44:00 PM #37:	You don't define sports teams as casual or hardcore, you define their fans as casual or hardcore. You don't define movies/TV shows as casual or hardcore, you define their fans as casual or hardcore. Yet with games, we're supposed to define them as casual or hardcore, rather than the fans? actually, you somewhat can define sports teams as casual or hardcore. Yes, there are hardcore yankees fans. Yes there are hardcore steelers fans. But id bet you a higher percent of NY Islanders and Pittsburgh Pirates fans know more about the team's history and players than yankees and steelers fans. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:478257] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> You don't define sports teams as casual or hardcore, you define their fans as casual or hardcore.You don't define movies/TV shows as casual or hardcore, you define their fans as casual or hardcore.Yet with games, we're supposed to define them as casual or hardcore, rather than the fans?actually, you somewhat can define sports teams as casual or hardcore. Yes, there are hardcore yankees fans. Yes there are hardcore steelers fans. But id bet you a higher percent of NY Islanders and Pittsburgh Pirates fans know more about the team's history and players than yankees and steelers fans. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 10/25/11 10:44:00 PM #38:	... But you DO define the fans. They're casual gamers. They only play the casual titles. You seem to be taking offense to it, and you shouldn't. >_> -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/23203029StQGo8Ecne.gif <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:478258] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> ... But you DO define the fans. They're casual gamers. They only play the casual titles.You seem to be taking offense to it, and you shouldn't. >_> -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/23203029StQGo8Ecne.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFaddict1313 10/25/11 10:44:00 PM #39:	I mean, sure, if someone goes and plays Rock Band with a goal of understanding the game's mechanics and getting very good at it, they might be a hardcore gamer. If you consider playing a significant variety of games as a necessity for being "hardcore", then they may not be. Most games are deep and forgiving enough that they can be played both in a casual and hardcore way. Some aren't, however. I mean, do you really think that Cooking Mama and Carnival Games and... whatever else can really be played in a hardcore way? Also, no person neatly fits into either category of "hardcore" or "casual". I'm sure there are plenty of hardcore gamers who are quite happy to mash buttons and watch the pretty effects in Marvel vs Capcom 3. -- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] <cite>FFaddict1313 posted [p:478259] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> I mean, sure, if someone goes and plays Rock Band with a goal of understanding the game's mechanics and getting very good at it, they might be a hardcore gamer.If you consider playing a significant variety of games as a necessity for being "hardcore", then they may not be.Most games are deep and forgiving enough that they can be played both in a casual and hardcore way. Some aren't, however.I mean, do you really think that Cooking Mama and Carnival Games and... whatever else can really be played in a hardcore way?Also, no person neatly fits into either category of "hardcore" or "casual". I'm sure there are plenty of hardcore gamers who are quite happy to mash buttons and watch the pretty effects in Marvel vs Capcom 3. -- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 10/25/11 10:46:00 PM #40:	From: Ace_Killjoy \| #001 Ok. So what exactly is a casual gamer? If you have to ask, you're streets behind. -- ~Ç~ Eff_Dee http://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:478260] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> From: Ace_Killjoy \| #001Ok. So what exactly is a casual gamer?If you have to ask, you're streets behind. -- ~Ç~ Eff_Deehttp://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 10/25/11 10:48:00 PM #41:	From: Metal_DK \| #038 actually, you somewhat can define sports teams as casual or hardcore. Yes, there are hardcore yankees fans. Yes there are hardcore steelers fans. But id bet you a higher percent of NY Islanders and Pittsburgh Pirates fans know more about the team's history and players than yankees and steelers fans. The fans have nothing to do with whether the Yankees are a hardcore or a casual team. The Yankees aren't a hardcore or a casual team. Their fans are. -- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:478261] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> From: Metal_DK \| #038actually, you somewhat can define sports teams as casual or hardcore. Yes, there are hardcore yankees fans. Yes there are hardcore steelers fans. But id bet you a higher percent of NY Islanders and Pittsburgh Pirates fans know more about the team's history and players than yankees and steelers fans.The fans have nothing to do with whether the Yankees are a hardcore or a casual team.The Yankees aren't a hardcore or a casual team. Their fans are. -- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.pnghttp://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 10/25/11 10:52:00 PM #42:	actually, you somewhat can define sports teams as casual or hardcore. Yes, there are hardcore yankees fans. Yes there are hardcore steelers fans. But id bet you a higher percent of NY Islanders and Pittsburgh Pirates fans know more about the team's history and players than yankees and steelers fans. Oh hey, look how you're defining the fans and not the team, meaning the team isn't casual. Once again proving my point. ... But you DO define the fans. They're casual gamers. They only play the casual titles. You seem to be taking offense to it, and you shouldn't. >_> So a casual gamer instantly becomes a hardcore gamer if he sticks Dark Souls into his PS3 for five minutes? Its basically what you're saying. You define the gamer strictly by the games they play, meaning all it takes for someone to move up to "hardcore" is to spend minimal time with a hardcore game. And I do take offense, as people (so called "hardcore" gamers) try to downplay accomplishments of others because they give the game a stupid label. Nevermind the fact that they slap the "hardcore" title on themselves based on the games they play more than the time, skill level, and effort they have with video games. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:478262] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> actually, you somewhat can define sports teams as casual or hardcore. Yes, there are hardcore yankees fans. Yes there are hardcore steelers fans. But id bet you a higher percent of NY Islanders and Pittsburgh Pirates fans know more about the team's history and players than yankees and steelers fans.Oh hey, look how you're defining the fans and not the team, meaning the team isn't casual. Once again proving my point.... But you DO define the fans. They're casual gamers. They only play the casual titles.You seem to be taking offense to it, and you shouldn't. >_>So a casual gamer instantly becomes a hardcore gamer if he sticks Dark Souls into his PS3 for five minutes? Its basically what you're saying. You define the gamer strictly by the games they play, meaning all it takes for someone to move up to "hardcore" is to spend minimal time with a hardcore game.And I do take offense, as people (so called "hardcore" gamers) try to downplay accomplishments of others because they give the game a stupid label. Nevermind the fact that they slap the "hardcore" title on themselves based on the games they play more than the time, skill level, and effort they have with video games. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dauntless Hunter 10/25/11 10:57:00 PM #43:	I'd say a casual gamer is just someone who doesn't put a lot of focus on gaming. It doesn't matter what games they play, it just matters how into it they are. -- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] <cite>Dauntless Hunter posted [p:478263] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> I'd say a casual gamer is just someone who doesn't put a lot of focus on gaming. It doesn't matter what games they play, it just matters how into it they are. -- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Red Shifter 10/25/11 10:57:00 PM #44:	A casual gamer is someone who didn't buy F-Zero GX. -- It's F-Zero. F-ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERO! http://img.imgcake.com/RedShifter/straitjacketdswordjpgem.jpg <cite>Red Shifter posted [p:478264] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> A casual gamer is someone who didn't buy F-Zero GX. -- It's F-Zero. F-ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERO!http://img.imgcake.com/RedShifter/straitjacketdswordjpgem.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chrono1219 10/25/11 10:59:00 PM #45:	The problem is casual and hardcore gamers are way too broad of a spectrum to really define. That's why so many subtypes of gamers exist like... 1. The Japanophile 2. The Madden Men 3. Button Mashers 4. Achievers 5. Serial Grinders 6. Nostalgiac 7. Facebooker 8. Peripheraler 9. Nintendoite 10. Pokemon Trainer 11. The War Hero 12. The Perfecter and more. -- Chrono1219 <cite>Chrono1219 posted [p:478265] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> The problem is casual and hardcore gamers are way too broad of a spectrum to really define. That's why so many subtypes of gamers exist like...1. The Japanophile2. The Madden Men3. Button Mashers4. Achievers 5. Serial Grinders 6. Nostalgiac7. Facebooker8. Peripheraler9. Nintendoite10. Pokemon Trainer11. The War Hero 12. The Perfecterand more. -- Chrono1219 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 10/25/11 11:00:00 PM #46:	From: Dauntless Hunter \| #043 I'd say a casual gamer is just someone who doesn't put a lot of focus on gaming. It doesn't matter what games they play, it just matters how into it they are. Yeah I agree with this line of thinking. Casual game = game that lends itself more to casual gamers. Hardcore game = game that lends itself more to hardcore gamers. But a casual gamer can play a hardcore game and a hardcore gamer can play a casual game. Super Smash Bros Melee is a casual game, but the tournament scene got completely defined and redefined by hardcore gamers who delved deep into the game mechanics. -- ~Ç~ Eff_Dee http://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:478266] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> From: Dauntless Hunter \| #043I'd say a casual gamer is just someone who doesn't put a lot of focus on gaming. It doesn't matter what games they play, it just matters how into it they are.Yeah I agree with this line of thinking.Casual game = game that lends itself more to casual gamers.Hardcore game = game that lends itself more to hardcore gamers.But a casual gamer can play a hardcore game and a hardcore gamer can play a casual game.Super Smash Bros Melee is a casual game, but the tournament scene got completely defined and redefined by hardcore gamers who delved deep into the game mechanics. -- ~Ç~ Eff_Deehttp://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 10/25/11 11:01:00 PM #47:	*Dauntless Hunter posted...* I'd say a casual gamer is just someone who doesn't put a lot of focus on gaming. It doesn't matter what games they play, it just matters how into it they are. Thank you, DH, for putting it into much simpler terms. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:478267] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> Dauntless Hunter posted...I'd say a casual gamer is just someone who doesn't put a lot of focus on gaming. It doesn't matter what games they play, it just matters how into it they are.Thank you, DH, for putting it into much simpler terms. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 10/25/11 11:03:00 PM #48:	I consider myself a hardcore gamer because I have a hardcore attitude towards gaming, instead of simply treating it as a minor pastime. A casual gamer has a casual attitude towards gaming. That is the definition. -- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:478268] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> I consider myself a hardcore gamer because I have a hardcore attitude towards gaming, instead of simply treating it as a minor pastime.A casual gamer has a casual attitude towards gaming. That is the definition. -- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 10/25/11 11:11:00 PM #49:	From: TheRock1525 \| Posted: 10/26/2011 1:52:26 AM \| #042 So a casual gamer instantly becomes a hardcore gamer if he sticks Dark Souls into his PS3 for five minutes? Its basically what you're saying. ... Have you been listening? Because that's not what anyone is saying. In fact we've been saying the opposite. CoD is a casual game because it has such a high ratio of casual gamers to hardcore gamers. Inversely, Dark Souls is considered a "hardcore" game because it has such a high ratio of hardcore gamers to casual gamers. The ratio. Know what that means? There ARE hardcore gamers that play CoD, and there ARE casual gamers that play Dark Souls. If a hardcore gamer plays CoD, he's still a hardcore gamer. If a casual gamer plays Dark Souls, he's still a casual gamer. -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/kamaro.jpg <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:478269] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> From: TheRock1525 \| Posted: 10/26/2011 1:52:26 AM \| #042So a casual gamer instantly becomes a hardcore gamer if he sticks Dark Souls into his PS3 for five minutes? Its basically what you're saying.... Have you been listening? Because that's not what anyone is saying. In fact we've been saying the opposite.CoD is a casual game because it has such a high ratio of casual gamers to hardcore gamers. Inversely, Dark Souls is considered a "hardcore" game because it has such a high ratio of hardcore gamers to casual gamers.The ratio. Know what that means? There ARE hardcore gamers that play CoD, and there ARE casual gamers that play Dark Souls. If a hardcore gamer plays CoD, he's still a hardcore gamer. If a casual gamer plays Dark Souls, he's still a casual gamer. -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/kamaro.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 10/25/11 11:24:00 PM #50:	From: GuessMyUserName \| #049 there ARE casual gamers that play Dark Souls. And that's what you get when it happens : -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:478270] in Ok. So wha... [t:60775888]...</cite> <quote> From: GuessMyUserName \| #049there ARE casual gamers that play Dark Souls.And that's what you get when it happens : -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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