Board 8 > Is it cheating to look at the other player's screen in Mario Kart multiplayer

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I am 100% on the its cheating side, but everyone else is saying Im wrong.

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I think it's generally considered bad form to do it, although "cheating" might be a bit too drastic a thing to call it. I've always done it though!

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Cheating? No. Unsportsmanlike? Maybe. Sometimes its hard to avoid though.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Cheating? No. Unsportsmanlike? Maybe. Sometimes its hard to avoid though.

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You know where they are on the map anyway and you can't do much with the knowledge of their item. Who cares
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NFUN posted...

Who cares

This is the answer to pretty much every anagram topic

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we always called it screen cheating so
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I basically do it because I'm way in the lead against my family and I wanna see how the rest of 'em are doing

also I have to remind my dad how to use items

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NFUN posted...

You know where they are on the map anyway and you can't do much with the knowledge of their item.

Eh, you can plan ahead if you know what the person directly ahead of you or behind you has, so it can be useful to know.

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Item knowledge is crucial.


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Not at all. It's impossible to avoid anyways. It also encourages using items more often instead of hoarding.

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It's not cheating if everyone else can do the same thing

No, since they can do it too.

Like, if you got the ghost to steal an item, is it cheating to wait until someone gets something worth stealing?

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If a rule can't be enforced it's not a rule to begin with.

No cheating.

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It's so hard to avoid. "Whoops I accidentally discovered your location." Shouldn't be considered cheating.

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I wonder if everyone's answers change if it were like splitcreen FPS or another competitive game that stands to gain more from screenwatching?

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Waluigi1 posted...

I wonder if everyone's answers change if it were like splitcreen FPS or another competitive game that stands to gain more from screenwatching?

yes
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Waluigi1 posted...

I wonder if everyone's answers change if it were like splitcreen FPS or another competitive game that stands to gain more from screenwatching?

in a competitive game i'm going to feel silly asking my opponents to go out of their way to avoid looking at half the screen lmao

there are ways to enforce a no-screen-cheating rule on one screen, you just gotta get creative. stick a divider down the middle of the TV or something

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Youu have to make an effort not to do it. Cheating generally requires an effort to do in secret.

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screen watching is just part of the game with local split screen multiplayer. Deal with it and git gud.

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Screen peeking is for children that need an advantage, so it tracks that most of B8 does it!

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Yes, but everyone does it

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Depends entirely on the house rules

I think it's better to just allow it, because it's impossible to prove when it's happening

Screen cheat is a great multiplayer game, by the way

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StealThisSheen posted...

Screen peeking is for children that need an advantage, so it tracks that most of B8 does it!

spoken like someone who gets mad at people who screen peek

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StealThisSheen posted...

Screen peeking is for children that need an advantage, so it tracks that most of B8 does it!

if you ain't cheating you ain't trying

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StealThisSheen posted...

Screen peeking is for children that need an advantage, so it tracks that most of B8 does it!

Actually its more like a thing that little kids use as an excuse to throw a tantrum when they lose.

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there is a strong correlation between people who say "stop looking at my screen, that's cheating" and "stop attacking me while i'm recovering, you have to let me come back to the stage"

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What if katchup is turned on

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Yep look at all these kids getting mad they got called out!

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p2: *shoots p1*
p1: Hey are you screencheating?
p2: Yeah
p1:

Can you write a followup line that doesn't sound whiny? I sure can't!

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StealThisSheen posted...

Yep look at all these kids getting mad they got called out!

I openly admitted to it! No shame here.

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For Mario Kart? Nah. You don't gain much of an advantage for doing that.

For FPSes though? Eyes on your side buddy.

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For a serious reply, yeah it's cheating, but nobody really cares. Especially as kids growing up with couch splitscreen, it's just a thing that happens.

I don't think there's any question that it's cheating, since it'd be the equivalent of using hacks today that tell you where players are and so on in online competitive games. The true debate is how much it matters/how much do people care, which is going to differ by game.

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In a FPS it absolutely is but I don't see why you'd care with Mario Kart

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In battle mode it definitely gives you an advantage. So much easier to hit people with green shells.

I saw some game in the eshop not long ago, that I think was an FPS, but the gimmick was that everyone was invisible, and the entire point of the game was to screenwatch your opponent to figure out where they were. Probably cooler in concept than how it plays out I'm sure.

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TomNook posted...

I saw some game in the eshop not long ago, that I think was an FPS, but the gimmick was that everyone was invisible, and the entire point of the game was to screenwatch your opponent to figure out where they were. Probably cooler in concept than how it plays out I'm sure.

That sounds horrible lol

Screencheat is what you are thinking about.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/301970/Screencheat/

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I feel like I'm in bizarro world with this topic. It was always like a gentlemen's agreement that you don't screenwatch. It's in poor taste.

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Calling this cheating is just bizarre to me. Everyone sharing a screen is a part of the game, which means everyone has access to everyone else's information. Mario Kart is not a stealth game. As already mentioned, there's an even an item in some of the games (the ghost) which is entirely based around knowing your opponent's item.

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NeatoAnAccount posted...

p2: *shoots p1*
p1: Hey are you screencheating?
p2: Yeah
p1:

Can you write a followup line that doesn't sound whiny? I sure can't!

"And you're still losing? OK bitch."

But anyway, MK64? Not cheating. Goldeneye 64? Cheating.

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Mind you, I'm only coming at it from an angle of possibly seeing stuff by accident. I don't endorse trying to read your opponent's screen.

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Anything's fair game on split-screen. Especially Mario Kart.

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The manual for Super Mario Kart literally tells you to do it.

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LazyKenny posted...

The manual for Super Mario Kart literally tells you to do it.

owned

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NFUN posted...

Who cares

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No, and it's not cheating in a FPS either. It's a part of playing the game.

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Waluigi1 posted...

I wonder if everyone's answers change if it were like splitcreen FPS or another competitive game that stands to gain more from screenwatching?

Not cheating either way. It's like... flopping in basketball or soccer. Lame, but not cheating

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Eh flopping is actually technically cheating but it's enforced rather loosely in basketball at least. Similar to traveling as players travel in basketball all the time but it would slow down the game too much to call every minor infraction.