Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 387: **** it, Mask Off

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yep, it always drives me nuts when leftists are perfectly fine body shaming or misgendering or ****-shaming or otherwise throwing out low blows they'd normally avoid, just if the target's a Bad Guy.

seems like a stretch to call occupy democrats "leftists," from what i'm seeing.

sure, but they ain't the only ones

Well yeah the Republicans (the American ones) are to the right of Frances National Rally which is Le Pens party. This has been shown by multiple studies, they are far-right and the Democrats are charitably centrists though arguably more centre-right with some centre or centre-left elements. The right wing of the Democrats are just right wingers outright.

The national rally supports the expulsion of all Muslims from France and the banning of face veils, both of which are way farther to the right than anything Republicans advocate.

It's almost like comparing politics across different cultures in a single line from left to right is dumb

Left and right are largely for economic issues

The context in this topic was a social issue, so

(I dont think the democrats are right wing thing is accurate for economic issues either, but it sure as fuck isnt accurate for social issues)

Capitalism is right wing.

Thats..That's... that's the line!

The national rally supports the expulsion of all Muslims from France, deporting legal immigrants back to their previous country and the banning of face veils, all of which are way farther to the right than anything Republicans advocate.

It's almost like comparing politics across different cultures in a single line from left to right is dumb

Capitalism is right wing.

Thats..That's... that's the line!

That also seems like a stretch. In complete anarchy with no politics whatsoever you would have a barter economy which would be a form of capitalism.

Also just to add a bit about National Rally - dropping the elder Le Pens more insane promises like mass deportations of ethnic groups is a tool that Marine Le Pen used to appear more palatable, and is a big part of how she was able to get so much support relative to her father in 2002. Make no mistake however, she is still far right. I suspect the Republicans will try something similar in the US oh, were ditching all the QAnon crazies, were so respectable now while not actually changing their fundamentals much at all.

(I dont think the democrats are right wing thing is accurate for economic issues either, but it sure as fuck isnt accurate for social issues)

To be clear I dont dispute at all that the Republicans are currently far right. What I would claim is that the center right is basically politically homeless in US politics right now.

Last I checked National Rally only still supports banning the face veil of those (they have moderated from when they were literal Nazis but are still far right) and does not support deporting legal immigrants, but did you forget about the last guy to be President in the US? He blocked all entry from majority-Muslim countries which is much farther than even Marine Le Pen wanted to go. Her dad was a different story but she kicked him out.

There is actually an even better individual to compare to the US, and that would be Eric Zemmour, who basically stood as a US Republican. Where is he considered to be in France? On the far right, because the Republicans are a far right party.

To be clear I dont dispute at all that the Republicans are currently far right. What I would claim is that the center right is basically politically homeless in US politics right now.

That said, the center right still has lots and lots of actual power. Who's actually deciding what's included in legislation - Mitch McConnell or Marjorie Taylor Greene?

The answer to this is MTG.

The answer to this is MTG.

Like, I know everyone likes to talk about how insane Republicans are. They are, I haven't voted for one in 8 years, but even the crazy ones aren't trying to deport legal immigrants. That's insane