Board 8 > Leonhart Plays The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles (Spoilers)

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I figured G1-5's segments would both be very high - it's a pretty long case and only has two - but wow, I didn't expect the whole thing to be second-longest.

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LeonhartFour posted...

so I guess the big question (for line counts) going into the second game is if Ryunosuke can catch Apollo

him not being in case 1 is probably the main thing that will keep it close

This isn't going to be close, there's no way. Ryunosuke is going to be closer to Edgeworth than to Apollo when all is said and done.

Finally started G2 for the first time!
So uh question
In the intro... what is written on the grave? because it kinda feels misleading for people that can't read Japanese.
For the entire intro I thought this is Susato's father grave..and then when the intro ended she was like "Kazuma-sama!" and I was like "oh.."

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Anagram posted...

All of Maya Fey's games, and she's beaten in line count by Ryunosuke after just one game.

Well, this doesn't have Layton/AA included just yet, but yeah, being the protagonist goes a long way! Athena isn't that far behind her with only two games under her belt.

Paratroopa1 posted...

I suspect that GAA's line counts may be a touch inflated just by there being a lot more random interjecting from bit players, especially jury and such. G1-5 is pretty long, but is it really longer than 2-4 and 3-5?

Yeah, I imagine it might get inflated by just how big the cast of the case is. I doubt it will be as long as those two in the time counts.

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The big cast was also part of my reluctance to do line counts for Layton/AA, but I'll have to bite the bullet soon and go for it.

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Yeah, protagonist gets a lot. Along with spoken words, you also get all their thoughts too.

I'm not exactly sure how incorrect dialogue is handled, because there's a ton more added to GAA than other games. Scuse me, summation examination, and dance of deduction all adds a ton of unique incorrect dialogue.

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I am not going out of my way to get wrong answer dialogue since I didn't do that for anything else, but my rule was if I encounter it, I'll count it because this isn't an exact science and it won't throw the numbers off by that much.

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G2-2
Is this a typo or a saying?
https://i.imgur.com/C3aSnDj.png

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Oh yeah, my Sherlock Holmes tiers for anyone who actually wants to know!

Best of the Best Tier

The Hound of the Baskervilles
The Yellow Face
The Five Orange Pips
The Final Problem

Great Tier

A Scandal in Bohemia
The Blue Carbuncle
The Speckled Band
The Musgrave Ritual
The Reigate Squire
The Greek Interpreter
The Naval Treaty
The Empty House
The Norwood Builder
The Priory School
Charles Augustus Milverton
The Dying Detective
Thor Bridge
The Three Garridebs

Good Tier

A Study in Scarlet
The Sign of the Four
The Red-Headed League
The Man with the Twisted Lip
The Engineer's Thumb
Silver Blaze
The Gloria Scott
The Resident Patient
The Dancing Men
The Solitary Cyclist
Black Peter
The Six Napoleons
The Three Students
The Abbey Grange
The Second Stain
The Red Circle
The Bruce-Partington Plans
The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax
The Devil's Foot
His Last Bow
The Mazarin Stone
The Sussex Vampire
The Lion's Mane
The Retired Colourman

Forgettable Tier

The Valley of Fear
The Boscombe Valley Mystery
A Case of Identity
The Beryl Coronet
The Copper Beeches
The Stockbroker's Clerk
The Crooked Man
The Golden Pince-Nez
The Missing Three-Quarter
The Wisteria Lodge
The Creeping Man
The Illustrious Client
The Blanched Soldier
The Veiled Lodger
Shoscombe Old Place

Bad Tier

The Noble Bachelor
The Cardboard Box
The Three Gables

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Nanis23 posted...

G2-2
Is this a typo or a saying?
https://i.imgur.com/C3aSnDj.png

Definitely a typo. I've caught a couple, but the localization has been by and large excellent.

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I am beginning my playthrough of the second game, so there will be spoilers for Great Ace Attorney 2 from here on.

Just throwing that out there for everyone who isn't there yet.

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The fuck I just realized the picture I posted was embedded, I thought putting it in spoiler tags would prevent it from doing that
How can I post a link to imgur but not embed it?

So Leon I am sorry but please edit that post that quoted me

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I like how Auchi's hairstyle this time around is reminiscent of Winston's in 4-1.

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We've officially hit the second game, so I'm outta here. Thanks for the topic, Leon, I have enjoyed it.

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You should play the second game. It's so much better than the first.
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I don't want to observe the Auchi growth

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I wonder if Susato visiting the grave at the beginning is supposed to mislead the player into thinking it's her father's until she mentions Kazuma at the end

but the fact that her father is alive and well during this case is a big red flag that whatever happened at the end of GAA1 is not all it appears to be

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Nanis23 posted...

Finally started G2 for the first time!
So uh question
In the intro... what is written on the grave? because it kinda feels misleading for people that can't read Japanese.
For the entire intro I thought this is Susato's father grave..and then when the intro ended she was like "Kazuma-sama!" and I was like "oh.."

I asked this but nobody answered :(
I was sure she was talking to her father that died because of the illness mentioned at the end of the first game..but nope

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It certainly isn't Kazuma's name, because it doesn't look anything like the name in the armband.

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It could be her mother's grave because we know she died in childbirth.

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We have a couple more Dahlia Hawthorne parallels here for Jezaille Brett. First, she's clutching supposedly decisive evidence in her hand that was actually full of poison, and said poison was recently stolen from the university laboratory.

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Yeah, I can see why Auchi didn't want to present that second photograph because, as Membami points out, it's highly suspicious to have a photo from behind the victim only moments after she was stabbed in the back. Plus, the lens is cracked.

this isn't quite on the tier of "the victim misspelled Maggey's name with a broken neck" in terms of self-defeating evidence but I wonder if Auchi understood the implications of that picture or not

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"There I am, stuck in the middle with...Raiten Menimemo!"

a great pop culture reference and a solid name pun, I approve

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between Spark Brushel, Myriam Scuttlebutt, and now Raiten Menimemo, some of the quirkiest witnesses in the series are journalists

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"Ryutaro's" head tilt animation is kinda adorable not gonna lie

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Menimemo's damage animation reminds me of Luke Atmey's breakdown, and he even repeats his dialogue word for word both times, like Atmey did.

Actually, this guy kind of reminds me of Atmey overall, too, with his rambling pseudo-professionalism.

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Hmmm...I guess I kinda get why Menimemo tried to stab Brett to cover the poison's tracks, but I don't know why he thought anyone would suspect him in particular. Nobody even realized he was there! If anything, it would probably mean Soseki got to match Maya's record for number of times as a defendant since it would rule out Rei as a suspect!

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I love how everyone bows respectfully to mourn the loss of Auchi's "sprig of hope," including Hosonaga, who randomly reappeared for no reason.

also I don't know if that poem right before he cut it was supposed to be a haiku but if so the last part had one syllable too many

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And with that, G2-1 complete! I think the pacing and the mystery itself were better in this intro case as opposed to G1-1, but Menimemo doesn't compare to Brett as a villain.

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Total lines by case:

6-5 - 6722
G1-5 - 6033
2-4 - 5946
1-5 - 5913
3-5 - 5815
E1-5 - 4831
E2-5 - 4777
4-3 - 4494
3-2 - 4151
3-3 - 4063
6-3 - 3979
E2-3 - 3959
4-4 - 3952
E2-2 - 3936
2-3 - 3884
5-2 - 3750
G1-4 - 3620
5-6 - 3616
4-2 - 3468
1-4 - 3466
5-3 - 3202
6-6 - 3134
2-2 - 3119
6-2 - 2987
E1-4 - 2935
E2-4 - 2868
1-3 - 2741
5-5 - 2550
E1-3 - 2412
G1-2 - 2352
5-4 - 2018
G1-3 - 1998
E1-2 - 1995
G1-1 - 1985
E2-1 - 1923
1-2 - 1773
6-4 - 1650
G2-1 - 1548
4-1 - 1421
6-1 - 1362
3-4 - 1225
3-1 - 1167
5-1 - 1102
E1-1 - 1039
2-1 - 899
4-0 - 679
1-1 - 389

Total lines by character per case:

The Adventure of the Blossoming Attorney (G2-1)

1. Susato Mikotoba - 560 (36.18%)
2. Taketsuchi Auchi - 194 (12.53%)
3. Seshiro Jigoku - 189 (12.21%)
4. Yujin Mikotoba - 184 (11.89%)
5. Raiten Menimemo - 177 (11.43%)
6. Rei Membami - 94
7. Soseki Natsume - 74
8. Satoru Hosonaga - 68
9. Jezaille Brett - 5
10. Other - 3

Line totals per character by grouping:

The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles

Ryunosuke Naruhodo - 5629
Susato Mikotoba - 2509
Sherlock Holmes - 875
Iris Wilson - 841
Judge of the Old Bailey - 796
Barok van Zieks - 692
Taketsuchi Auchi - 451
Kazuma Asogi - 431
Gina Lestrade - 402
Seshiro Jigoku - 398
Tobias Gregson - 368
Satoru Hosonaga - 366
Yujin Mikotoba - 223
Soseki Natsume - 211
John Garrideb - 185
Jezaille Brett - 132
Mael Stronghart - 113
Beppo - 35
William Shamspeare - 9
Wagahai - 8
Adron B. Metermann - 6
John H. Watson - 4

Most lines per case:

Apollo Justice (6-5) - 2482
Phoenix Wright (2-4) - 2194
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-5) - 2058
Miles Edgeworth (E1-5) - 2036
Phoenix Wright (1-5) - 2032
Miles Edgeworth (E2-5) - 1854
Phoenix Wright (6-3) - 1731
Apollo Justice (4-3) - 1673
Miles Edgeworth (E2-2) - 1597
Phoenix Wright (3-5) - 1570
Apollo Justice (5-2) - 1529
Phoenix Wright (3-3) - 1476
Phoenix Wright (3-2) - 1433
Phoenix Wright (2-2) - 1370
Phoenix Wright (6-6) - 1366
Phoenix Wright (5-6) - 1349
Apollo Justice (4-2) - 1339
Miles Edgeworth (E1-4) - 1328
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-4) - 1296
Athena Cykes (5-3) - 1260
Phoenix Wright (2-3) - 1236
Phoenix Wright (1-4) - 1211
Apollo Justice (6-2) - 1170
Miles Edgeworth (E2-4) - 1133
Phoenix Wright (1-3) - 1117
Miles Edgeworth (E1-3) - 1059
Miles Edgeworth (E1-2) - 936
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-2) - 935
Phoenix Wright (5-5) - 931
Phoenix Wright (4-4) - 914
Miles Edgeworth (E2-3) - 870
Miles Edgeworth (E2-1) - 830
Phoenix Wright (1-2) - 812
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-3) - 680
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-1) - 660
Athena Cykes (6-4) - 646
Phoenix Wright (5-4) - 588
Susato Mikotoba (G2-1) - 560
Phoenix Wright (6-1) - 514
Miles Edgeworth (E1-1) - 466
Apollo Justice (4-1) - 440
Mia Fey (3-4) - 436
Mia Fey (3-1) - 396
Phoenix Wright (5-1) - 337
Phoenix Wright (2-1) - 329
Phoenix Wright (4-0) - 236
Phoenix Wright (1-1) - 135

Highest percentage of lines per case:

Miles Edgeworth (E1-2) - 46.92%
Phoenix Wright (1-2) - 45.80%
Miles Edgeworth (E1-4) - 45.25%
Miles Edgeworth (E1-1) - 44.85%
Phoenix Wright (2-2) - 43.92%
Miles Edgeworth (E1-3) - 43.91%
Phoenix Wright (6-6) - 43.59%
Phoenix Wright (6-3) - 43.50%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-1) - 43.16%
Miles Edgeworth (E1-5) - 42.14%
Apollo Justice (5-2) - 40.77%
Phoenix Wright (1-3) - 40.75%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-2) - 40.57%
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-2) - 39.75%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-4) - 39.50%
Athena Cykes (5-3) - 39.35%
Apollo Justice (6-2) - 39.17%
Athena Cykes (6-4) - 39.15%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-5) - 38.81%
Apollo Justice (4-2) - 38.61%
Phoenix Wright (6-1) - 37.74%
Phoenix Wright (5-6) - 37.31%
Apollo Justice (4-3) - 37.23%
Apollo Justice (6-5) - 36.92%
Phoenix Wright (2-4) - 36.90%
Phoenix Wright (2-1) - 36.60%
Phoenix Wright (5-5) - 36.51%
Phoenix Wright (3-3) - 36.33%
Susato Mikotoba (G2-1) - 36.18%
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-4) - 35.80%
Mia Fey (3-4) - 35.59%
Phoenix Wright (1-4) - 34.94%
Phoenix Wright (4-0) - 34.76%
Phoenix Wright (1-1) - 34.70%
Phoenix Wright (3-2) - 34.52%
Phoenix Wright (1-5) - 34.36%
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-5) - 34.11%
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-3) - 34.03%
Mia Fey (3-1) - 33.93%
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-1) - 33.25%
Phoenix Wright (2-3) - 31.82%
Apollo Justice (4-1) - 30.96%
Phoenix Wright (5-1) - 30.58%
Phoenix Wright (5-4) - 29.14%
Phoenix Wright (3-5) - 27.00%
Phoenix Wright (4-4) - 23.13%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-3) - 21.98%

Testimonies by character:

62. Raiten Menimemo - 16 lines/3 testimonies
63. Geiru Toneido - 15 lines/3 testimonies
64. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 15 lines/3 testimonies
65. Sirhan Dogen - 15 lines/3 testimonies
66. Horace Knightley - 14 lines/3 testimonies
67. Phineas Filch - 14 lines/3 testimonies
68. Satoru Hosonaga - 14 lines/3 testimonies
69. Tahrust Inmee - 14 lines/3 testimonies
70. Ted Tonate - 14 lines/3 testimonies
71. Manfred von Karma - 12 lines/3 testimonies
72. Beppo - 5 lines/3 testimonies
73. Juniper Woods - 17 lines/2 testimonies
74. Simon Blackquill - 17 lines/2 testimonies
75. Dee Vasquez - 16 lines/2 testimonies
76. April May - 14 lines/2 testimonies
77. Valant Gramarye - 14 lines/2 testimonies
78. Betty de Famme - 13 lines/2 testimonies
79. Yanni Yogi - 13 lines/2 testimonies
80. Dane Gustavia - 12 lines/2 testimonies
81. John Marsh - 12 lines/2 testimonies
82. Kristoph Gavin - 12 lines/2 testimonies
83. Pierce Nichody - 12 lines/2 testimonies
84. Sal Manella - 12 lines/2 testimonies
85. Zinc Lablanc - 12 lines/2 testimonies
86. Blaise Debeste - 11 lines/2 testimonies
87. Gina Lestrade - 11 lines/2 testimonies
88. Jay Elbird - 11 lines/2 testimonies
89. Sorin Sprocket - 11 lines/2 testimonies
90. Tyrell Badd - 11 lines/2 testimonies
91. Aristotle Means - 10 lines/2 testimonies
92. Katherine Hall - 10 lines/2 testimonies
93. Lance Amano - 10 lines/2 testimonies
94. Norma DePlume - 10 lines/2 testimonies
95. Patricia Beate - 10 lines/2 testimonies
96. Richard Wellington - 10 lines/2 testimonies
97. Roger Retinz/The Great Mr. Reus - 10 lines/2 testimonies
98. The Judge - 10 lines/2 testimonies
99. Myriam Scuttlebutt - 9 lines/2 testimonies
100. Rhoda Teneiro - 9 lines/2 testimonies
101. Cammy Meele - 8 lines/2 testimonies
102. Solomon Starbuck - 7 lines/2 testimonies
103. Iyesa Nosa - 6 lines/2 testimonies
104. Kyurio Korekuta - 4 lines/2 testimonies
105. Soseki Natsume - 4 lines/2 testimonies
106. Robin Newman - 14 lines/1 testimony
107. Dhurke Sahdmadhi - 8 lines/1 testimony
108. Miles Edgeworth - 8 lines/1 testimony
109. Damian Tenma - 7 lines/1 testimony
110. Herman Crab - 7 lines/1 testimony
111. Tobias Gregson - 7 lines/1 testimony
112. Trucy Wright - 7 lines/1 testimony
113. Wocky Kitaki - 7 lines/1 testimony
114. Bonny/Betty de Famme - 6 lines/1 testimony
115. Di-Jun Huang - 6 lines/1 testimony
116. Jinxie Tenma - 6 lines/1 testimony
117. Kay Faraday - 6 lines/1 testimony
118. Karin Jenson/Bonnie Young - 6 lines/1 testimony
119. Morgan Fey - 6 lines/1 testimony
120. Nahyuta Sahdmadhi - 6 lines/1 testimony
121. Ponco - 6 lines/1 testimony
122. Terry Fawles - 6 lines/1 testimony
123. Vera Misham - 6 lines/1 testimony
124. Jezaille Brett - 5 lines/1 testimony
125. Magnus McGilded - 5 lines/1 testimony
126. Sasha Buckler - 5 lines/1 testimony
127. The Bellboy - 5 lines/1 testimony
128. Ahlbi Ur'gaid - 4 lines/1 testimony
129. Apollo Justice - 4 lines/1 testimony
130. John Garrideb - 4 lines/1 testimony
131. Nicole Swift - 4 lines/1 testimony
132. Orla Shipley - 4 lines/1 testimony
133. Polly - 3 lines/1 testimony
134. Roly Beate - 3 lines/1 testimony
135. Joan Garrideb - 1 line/1 testimony
136. Rei Membami - 1 line/1 testimony

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Total lines by character:

1. Phoenix Wright - 24094
2. Miles Edgeworth - 15372
3. Apollo Justice - 10237
4. The Judge - 6966
5. Ryunosuke Naruhodo - 5629
6. Maya Fey - 5237
7. Athena Cykes - 4816
8. Dick Gumshoe - 4089
9. Kay Faraday - 3370
10. Trucy Wright - 2629
11. Susato Mikotoba - 2509
12. Ema Skye - 2434
13. Franziska von Karma - 2314
14. Mia Fey - 1418
15. Pearl Fey - 1281
16. Simon Blackquill - 1280
17. Larry Butz - 1205
18. Klavier Gavin - 1154
19. Shi-Long Lang - 1101
20. Justine Courtney - 1016
21. Rayfa Padma Khura'in - 988
22. Raymond Shields - 971
23. Godot - 902
24. Nahyuta Sahdmadhi - 892
25. Sherlock Holmes - 875
26. Iris Wilson - 841
27. Judge of the Old Bailey - 796
28. Khura'in Judge - 754
29. Bobby Fulbright - 700
30. Barok van Zieks - 692
31. Gregory Edgeworth - 649
32. Lotta Hart - 648
33. Tyrell Badd - 593
34. Dahlia Hawthorne - 578
35. Dhurke Sahdmadhi - 562
36. Wendy Oldbag - 553
37. Sebastian Debeste - 521
38. Calisto Yew/Shih-na - 489
39. Adrian Andrews - 459
40. Winston Payne - 453
41. Taketsuchi Auchi - 451
42. Manfred von Karma - 444
43. Kazuma Asogi - 431
44. The Judge's Brother - 421
45. Gina Lestrade - 402
46. Seshiro Jigoku - 398
47. Shelly de Killer - 387
48. Lamiroir/Thalassa Gramarye - 386
49. Datz Are'bal - 381
50. Will Powers - 380
51. Simon Keyes - 380
52. Tobias Gregson - 368
53. Satoru Hosonaga - 366
54. Bikini - 351
55. Gaspen Payne - 335
56. Ga'ran Sigatar Khura'in - 329
57. Maggey Byrde - 323
58. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 320
59. Kristoph Gavin - 319
60. Ahlbi Ur'gaid - 319
61. Quercus Alba - 303
62. Ashley Graydon - 302
63. Valant Gramarye - 298
64. Luke Atmey - 292
65. Damon Gant - 285
66. Juniper Woods - 277
67. Ini Miney - 275
68. Angel Starr - 272
69. Ron DeLite - 271
70. Rhoda Teneiro - 268
71. Katherine Hall - 267
72. Blaise Debeste - 265
73. Regina Berry - 261
74. Jake Marshall - 257
75. Jean Armstrong - 251
76. Nicole Swift - 250
77. Lana Skye - 249
78. Victor Kudo - 247
79. Mike Meekins - 235
80. Marvin Grossberg - 234
81. Jacques Portsman - 231
82. Spark Brushel - 230
83. Yujin Mikotoba - 223
84. Frank Sahwit - 219
85. Alita Tiala - 219
86. Hugh O'Conner - 218
87. Marlon Rimes - 217
88. Patricia Roland - 217
89. Daryan Crescend - 216
90. Soseki Natsume - 211
91. Dane Gustavia - 209
92. Horace Knightley - 209
93. Florent L'Belle - 208
94. Maximillion Galactica - 203
95. Ben & Trilo Quist - 200
96. Pierce Nichody - 200
97. Yuri Cosmos - 199
98. Sasha Buckler - 198
99. Penny Nichols - 194
100. Phineas Filch - 192
101. Jinxie Tenma - 191
102. Paul Atishon-Wimperson - 187
103. Uendo Toneido (Combined) - 186
104. John Garrideb - 185
105. Armie Buff/Sarge - 182
106. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 182
107. Roger Retinz/Mr. Reus - 182
108. Iris - 181
109. Herman Crab - 180
110. Magnus McGilded - 180
111. Damian Tenma - 179
112. Nash Skulkin - 178
113. Pees'lubn Andistan'dhin - 178
114. Raiten Menimemo - 177
115. Furio Tigre - 176
116. Zak Gramarye - 174
117. Matt Engarde - 171
118. Nikolina Pavlova - 170
119. Sirhan Dogen - 170
120. Cammy Meele - 168
121. Morgan Fey - 165
122. Redd White - 162
123. Betty de Famme - 158
124. Ringo Skulkin - 155
125. Aristotle Means - 154
126. Solomon Starbuck - 154
127. John Marsh - 153
128. Robin Newman - 153
129. Delicia Scones - 151
130. Colias Palaeno - 150
131. Dee Vasquez - 148
132. Zinc Lablanc - 146
133. Ellen Wyatt - 143
134. Desiree DeLite - 142
135. Ted Tonate - 141
136. Trilo Quist - 140
137. Bruce Fairplay - 138
138. Joan Garrideb - 138
139. Wesley Stickler - 138
140. Cody Hackins - 135
141. Norma DePlume - 134
142. Jezaille Brett - 132
143. Olga Orly - 131
144. Patricia Beate - 131
145. Lauren Paups - 130
146. Tahrust Inmee - 130
147. Karin Jenson - 129
148. Sorin Sprocket - 127
149. Amara Sigatar Khura'in - 123
150. Myriam Scuttlebutt - 123
151. Aura Blackquill - 122
152. Guy Eldoon - 118
153. Bonny de Famme - 113
154. Mael Stronghart - 113
155. Wocky Kitaki - 112
156. Di-Jun Huang - 110
157. Bif Strogenov - 109
158. Geiru Toneido - 108
159. The Phantom - 107
160. Richard Wellington - 107
161. April May - 104
162. Uendo Toneido - 104
163. Vera Misham - 104
164. Jay Elbird - 102
165. Yanni Yogi - 98
166. Roly Beate - 95
167. Rei Membami - 94
168. Beh'leeb Inmee - 92
169. Lance Amano - 92
170. Jeff Master - 90
171. Pop Windibank - 90
172. Deaf Surgeon Juror - 89
173. Viola Cadaverini - 80
174. Communications Officer Juror - 77
175. Director Hotti/Doctor Hickfield - 76
176. Plum Kitaki - 76
177. Terry Fawles - 74
178. Drew Misham - 74
179. Iyesa Nosa - 73
180. The Bellboy - 72
181. Lay D. Furst - 70
182. Ernest Amano - 68
183. Ponco - 66
184. OCD Maid Juror - 61
185. Benjamin Woodman - 60
186. Sal Manella - 59
187. Chief of Detectives - 55
188. Day Laborer Juror - 55
189. Bonnie Young - 53
190. Vilen Borshevik - 51
191. Patches - 50
192. Inga Karkhuul Khura'in - 46
193. Kisegawa - 46
194. Lisa Basil - 46
195. Brown Suit Juror - 45
196. Kyurio Korekuta - 45
197. Stereoscope Juror - 45
198. Clonco - 43
199. Widget - 42
200. Machi Tobaye - 41
201. Orla Shipley - 40
202. Bucky Whet - 39
203. Turner Grey - 39
204. Top Hat and Rose Juror - 36
205. Beppo - 35
206. Metropolitan Lady Juror - 35
207. Elise Deauxnim - 30
208. Knife Wielding Juror - 30
209. Guildmaster Coachman Juror - 29
210. Knitting Grandma Juror - 27
211. Owen - 26
212. The Amazing Mr. Hat - 22
213. Shah'do - 21
214. Missile - 20
215. Polly - 20
216. Winfred "Big Wins" Kitaki - 20
217. Romein LeTouse - 13
218. Taka - 10

Overall total lines - 142170

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I love Auchi in G2-1. It's nice to have his serious side in G1-1 and then his joke side in G2-1.

Menimemo...and really G2-1 as a whole kinda reminds me of Wellington and 2-1. It's a simple, but fast case with a culprit with fun animations. I feel like I would have loved Menimemo if I played a few years ago. He's just OK. Great animations though.

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40. Winston Payne - 453
41. Taketsuchi Auchi - 451

lmao

I enjoyed many things about 2-1
Susato as a male defense attorney was funny

Questions -
1.Is Rei supposed to be a reference to Maya? her animations look very similar
2.How did he even poison her? It was never mentioned. Poisoned the water when she didn't look?
3.How did she get a hold of his pen?

Also a stupid nitpick-
I didn't like how the judge knew it was Susato all along
Yes I know it's supposed to be a "ha ha he knew" scene and not something very serious
But it still bothers me
Because a judge must follow the law. Even if he thinks said law is stupid. This is the very idea of a judge


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LeonhartFour posted...

I love how everyone bows respectfully to mourn the loss of Auchi's "sprig of hope," including Hosonaga, who randomly reappeared for no reason.

also I don't know if that poem right before he cut it was supposed to be a haiku but if so the last part had one syllable too many

The best part was Kazuma's Nocturne playing. (late-game spoilers) It ruins any tragic elements that theme might have, and just as well, since we later learn there really isn't much to be sad about Kazuma anymore
Nanis23 posted...

I didn't like how the judge knew it was Susato all along
Yes I know it's supposed to be a "ha ha he knew" scene and not something very serious
But it still bothers me
Because a judge must follow the law. Even if he thinks said law is stupid. This is the very idea of a judge

tbf judges have let things fly in the past before like perceive and the whole mood matrix. Or just simple things like allowing defendants or random witnesses that were previously unaccounted for on the stand after they've barged in uninvited with something to say. Also, not sure if you've finished the game or not.
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Nanis23 posted...

2.How did he even poison her? It was never mentioned. Poisoned the water when she didn't look?

Exactly. The water was on a table directly in front of the opening Menimemo stuck his camera through, IIRC.

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GiftedACIII posted...

The best part was Kazuma's Nocturne playing. (late-game spoilers) It ruins any tragic elements that theme might have, and just as well, since we later learn there really isn't much to be sad about Kazuma anymore.
Also something funny about Rei is that she has a damage animation... that she only does after the trial is over. During the trial she never does a damage animation when getting contradicted in court even though you'd think having evidence on you being a murderer would be more shocking.

tbf judges have let things fly in the past before like perceive and the whole mood matrix. Or just simple things like allowing defendants or random witnesses that were previously unaccounted for on the stand after they've barged in uninvited with something to say. Also, not sure if you've finished the game or not.

I only started the second case so no I don't know what happens later

_SecretSquirrel posted...

Brett was sitting on a chair directly in front of the opening Menimemo stuck his camera through. All he had to do was empty his pen into her glass while she was holding it. She wouldn't notice if he did it while Rei was confronting her about the missing poison.

So we are to assume he also dropped the pen by mistake and then she picked it up?

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LeonhartFour posted...

Hmmm...I guess I kinda get why Menimemo tried to stab Brett to cover the poison's tracks, but I don't know why he thought anyone would suspect him in particular. Nobody even realized he was there! If anything, it would probably mean Soseki got to match Maya's record for number of times as a defendant since it would rule out Rei as a suspect!

Actually, Menimemo would be the prime suspect since I don't think Soseki was ever alone that day when they were at the lab, since he was with Yujin the whole time. Menimemo would be the only possibility as someone who learned of the poison through the interview, but was later alone with no alibi at the time the poison disappeared.

Nanis23 posted...

So we are to assume he also dropped the pen by mistake and then she picked it up?

Pretty much. Granted, this is the one part that seems to be a bit convoluted, but Menimemo empties his pen into Brett's wine glass of water, and drops the pen, likely as a result of him being nervous as fuck knowing he is about to kill someone. None of this is noticed due to the argument over the stolen poison, but as Brett starts dying, she sees the out-of-place fountain pen and realizes exactly what the fuck happened from her own past misdeeds, and picks it up in her last moments to hopefully identify the victim.

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Paratroopa1 posted...

40. Winston Payne - 453
41. Taketsuchi Auchi - 451

lmao

yes I noticed this immediately too, it's perfect

Nanis23 posted...

Questions -
1.Is Rei supposed to be a reference to Maya? her animations look very similar
2.How did he even poison her? It was never mentioned. Poisoned the water when she didn't look?
3.How did she get a hold of his pen?

Also a stupid nitpick-
I didn't like how the judge knew it was Susato all along
Yes I know it's supposed to be a "ha ha he knew" scene and not something very serious
But it still bothers me
Because a judge must follow the law. Even if he thinks said law is stupid. This is the very idea of a judge

I didn't really get "Maya" vibes from her. If anything, it feels like she's meant to be yuri bait for Susato. I can only imagine the amount of fanfiction about the two of them that has arisen and will continue to arise from this case!

He does mention that he did it when he was confronting her in the hut. He doesn't say exactly how he distracted her so she didn't notice what he was doing, but he got so nervous she would catch him that he dropped the pen afterwards, which is how she got a hold of it. I guess he thought it would look suspicious if he knelt down to pick up his pen, or he just didn't realize he had done it until afterwards.

Also, Susato's dad and the judge are long time friends, which they referenced during the case. The judge himself also seems to be really frustrated by how hamstrung their legal system is, which is probably another reason he was willing to let one slide.

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Something I find funny about the special poison is that one of the key evidence is how it makes the victim's pupils dilate... yet you never see Brett's eyes in the games. The photograph of Rei pulling out the knife is the one instance where you can see Brett's eyes without her mask or hat covering it and her eyes are closed there.
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it would've been kinda neat if they showed Brett's full face only for her eyes to have no pupils

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huh I did not realize a garnet and a carbuncle are the same thing

Princess Carbuncle doesn't have the same ring to it

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"We can take comfort only in the fact that his soul was well cleansed on its way to the hereafter"

Holmes is great

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the silhouette of the mystery guest in the Dance of Deduction bears a resemblance to Bruce Fairplay

I guess they can't show who the actual person was just yet but that's an interesting choice!

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but then they have Soseki dancing all the way home later on and I love it

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wow I'm impressed by Gregson's knowledge of Macbeth

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Hmmm...Susato says this is going to be the second Great Exhibition, which I guess could explain the anachronism. Of course, it still makes it an alternate timeline, but at least they give a reason for the discrepancy.

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Huh, Soseki and Shamspeare were having Mercs debates about Shakespeare characters. I feel like we need a tier list of power levels now!

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"By sweet poison did he seeketh to end my life"

one of my writing pet peeves is when stories use Middle English but don't understand the rules of its grammar

the "-eth" or "-th" ending operates basically the same as just the "-s" ending on a verb, so in modern English, that sentence would read "By sweet poison did he seeks to end my life" which is of course totally wrong

this hath been LeonhartFour's English soapbox

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I feel like that might be intentional based on Shamspeare being, well, a sham.

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