Board 8 > Leonhart Plays The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles (Spoilers)

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This will be a bit of a different playthrough since I've already seen LPs of both games. I didn't think we'd ever get them, so I went ahead and watched them since I wanted to know how they went, story-wise. However, I won't openly spoil beyond where I am in the game, so for you newbies, you can follow without fear in that regard. I enjoyed my experience with them so much that they inspired me to read all the Sherlock Holmes stories, and it really kickstarted my mystery genre fandom.

Anyway, the main reason I'm doing a separate topic instead of just posting in the SELF topic like I normally would is that I plan to do line counts and time stats for these games, and I know some of the people who'd be interested in that don't follow that topic (to my knowledge). If you're not familiar with it, I played through the series a few years ago and kept track of how many lines of dialogue are in each case to see which case was the biggest in that regard, and then I played through again and personally timed how long each case was to see which one took me the most time to beat. I've saved all that info on Google Docs if you want to check them out.

Time stats: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qSdmjcbQjG_QPBFylHNgk7oVXRbsSjDetdO8w7Ygh8k

Line counts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sBPDmATQERIv7R3VvvXx43DRJZNOwnSwmLkZhfWLqSc

So the plan here is for me to play through once and do line counts, and then immediately replay it to do time stats (since the goal is to time it based on just going straight through and not getting stuck anywhere along the way). I'll update the numbers each time I finish a case. Oh right, one "line" of dialogue is just one uninterrupted speech by the same character, regardless of the number of text boxes it takes.

I do intend to give my thoughts on the cases, the characters, and all that, too, but this is my primary motivator.

So here we go.

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Would love to contribute to this topic, but mine is sitting on my shelf for a while until I finish a few others on the backlog. Have fun!

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For various reasons, I barely played tonight (only up to the first cross-examination), but it's still nice to have a new(ish) AA game to play again.

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Random fun fact: I don't know if the game openly reveals this or if they changed it in English to complete the reference, but Kazuma's sword is called Karuma, which is Manfred and Franziska's surname in Japanese. Not sure if they renamed it Karma in English or not, but I guess we'll see!

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It's nice that the Switch version has trophies/achievements, and they even have their own sound effect. I bought the Switch version just because it's been so long since I've had a physical copy of an Ace Attorney game, so I'm glad I don't miss out on that part of it!

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It is still Karuma.

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Leonhart4 posted...

Random fun fact: I don't know if the game openly reveals this or if they changed it in English to complete the reference, but Kazuma's sword is called Karuma, which is Manfred and Franziska's surname in Japanese. Not sure if they renamed it Karma in English or not, but I guess we'll see!

Didn't they outright say that an Asogi disciple named themselves after the sword? I took that to mean they were the von Karma's ancestor.

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Mewtwo59 posted...

Didn't they outright say that an Asogi disciple named themselves after the sword? I took that to mean they were the von Karma's ancestor.

Oh right, I seem to recall that, now that you mention it. That would seem to be the implication, yes.

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This whole "the victim was dining alone the whole time" thing reminds me so much of 3-3.

also LOL Hotta Clinic

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Made it to the first checkpoint. If anyone is interested in a line count sneak preview, this is what we've got so far:

The Adventure of the Great Departure (G1-1)

Ryunosuke Naruhodo - 273
Kazuma Asogi - 175
Taketsuchi Auchi - 92
The Japanese Judge - 74
Iyesa Nosa - 55
Kyurio Korekuta - 37
Satoru Hosonaga - 32
Yujin Mikotoba - 16
Susato Mikotoba - 1
Sherlock Holmes - 1

(I assumed the person narrating the opening cutscene was Holmes, but I legit couldn't tell. If I made a mistake there, let me know)

(I'm also not sure if I should just call him Sherlock Holmes here or go along with this Herlock Sholmes business)

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Who are you going to credit the other case narrations to?
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Also, it's interesting they spell it Jezaille Brett here. I guess it's an attempt to make it look like a more feminine name, but her name is a reference to the jezail bullet, which is what John Watson was shot with in the army in the stories. Makes for a fitting name in this case!

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Mewtwo59 posted...

Who are you going to credit the other case narrations to?

I'm not sure. I haven't heard them yet!

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Gotta say, not a fan of Auchi's Objection. I think they were trying to recapture the shrill nature of Winston's, but it ends up sounding more like that Flynch guy from Layton/Ace Attorney.

Also, I enjoy reading the protagonist's dialogue aloud for story-driven games, so I've been reading Naruhodo's dialogue with a (hopefully passable) British accent.

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It's interesting that Naruhodo prides himself on his powers of observation, which would make him more akin to Edgeworth or even Apollo than Phoenix.

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The chemistry between Naruhodo and Kazuma is so good, and it's neat that you can really see the moment when Naruhodo takes the lead on the case.

Also, Brett is a nice throwback to the Dahlia Hawthorne type of dainty yet deadly villainess.

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And now we have the missing green glass bottle like 4-1, except it's carbonated water (which is gross, by the way) instead of grape juice.

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man I've been waiting to hear Brett's SHUT UP

it was amazing in the Japanese version and it's great here too

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All right, reached the second save point and we've surpassed 6-1 for the third most lines in an intro case thus far. It'll certainly pass 4-1 for second, but passing E2-1 for first will be difficult at this pace, I think.

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Oh nice, this curare stuff that Brett is studying is from The Sign of the Four.

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I like that there's sort of an indirect reference to the end of 3-1 when Brett actually consumes the poisoned bottle, like how Mia challenged Dahlia and Winston to do.

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Just beat the first game, will follow along from here unless you pass me and reach the second.

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Anagram posted...

Just beat the first game, will follow along from here unless you pass me and reach the second.

I doubt I'll catch you unless you take a break from playing! My pace will be fairly slow. I think I'm almost done with this first case though.

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Turning the victim around in the chair after he was killed to make it look like he was killed from a different angle is another similarity to 4-1.

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Whew, G1-1 complete! There were several lines toward the end that I understood the significance of because of stuff that's revealed later, but I won't mention that here. I get the complaints I'm seeing in other topics that the ends of these cases feel pretty unsatisfying because, in this instance, Brett is basically going to get off scot-free despite Naruhodo essentially proving she did it.

I guess the "problem" here is that Takumi is basically writing one big mystery novel with Great Ace Attorney, and every mystery novel needs a hook to move on to the next part of the mystery. There is literally no satisfying resolution of any kind until the very end. Each event just builds on the overarching plot until the big reveal at the end. However, this approach is very un-Ace Attorney-like, so it might be hitting the wrong notes for some people as a result because it's not delivering the satisfying climaxes you're used to getting from each individual case (with very few exceptions up until now).

As for me, I did enjoy the case. Brett was a solid villain. She employed a lot of misdirection in a classic mystery style, constantly trying to prevent you from focusing on what you should really be paying attention to. Naruhodo and Kazuma were great together. I loved Kazuma's statement at the end that Auchi's clan would never in a thousand years measure up to Naruhodo's clan, and we see that being fulfilled in Phoenix's beatdowns of the Payne brothers!

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Now for the numbers:

The Adventure of the Great Departure (G1-1)

Ryunosuke Naruhodo - 660
Kazuma Asogi - 405
Taketsuchi Auchi - 256
The Japanese Judge - 208
Satoru Hosonaga - 146
Jezaille Brett - 127
Iyesa Nosa - 72
Kyurio Korekuta - 44
Yujin Mikotoba - 39
Susato Mikotoba - 16
Other - 11
Sherlock Holmes - 1

Total lines by segment:

E1-5 Middle - 2476
E2-5 Beginning - 2350
6-5 Trial Day 2 - 2343
E2-2 End - 2154
G1-1 - 1985
6-5 Investigation Day 2 - 1907
3-5 Trial Day 2 - 1888
5-5 Trial Day 1 - 1693
6-4 - 1650
E1-5 End - 1626
2-4 Trial Day 2 - 1613
E2-3 End - 1603
2-4 Investigation Day 1 - 1595
3-5 Investigation Day 2 - 1575
E2-5 Middle - 1575
6-2 Trial Day 1 - 1540
4-3 Trial Day 2 - 1499
6-2 Investigation Day 1 - 1447
2-4 Investigation Day 2 - 1432
4-1 - 1421
E2-3 Middle - 1393
3-5 Investigation Day 1 - 1382
6-1 - 1362
3-2 Investigation Day 1 - 1358
6-5 Investigation Day 1 - 1340
1-5 Trial Day 3 - 1338
2-3 Investigation Day 1 - 1331
2-4 Trial Day 1 - 1306
E2-2 Middle - 1248
3-4 - 1225
3-3 Investigation Day 2 - 1221
6-3 Investigation Day 1 - 1205
4-4 Investigation Day 2 - 1169
3-1 - 1167
4-2 Investigation Day 1 - 1154
5-2 Investigation Day 1 - 1149
6-5 Trial Day 1 - 1132
E2-4 End - 1129
3-2 Investigation Day 2 - 1127
4-3 Investigation Day 2 - 1127
3-3 Investigation Day 1 - 1093
5-6 Trial Day 2 - 1088
6-6 Investigation Day 1 - 1054
3-3 Trial Day 2 - 1041
4-3 Investigation Day 1 - 1034
E1-4 Middle - 1030
6-3 Trial Day 2 - 1020
E2-1 Beginning - 1009
1-5 Investigation Day 2 - 1004
E1-4 End - 979
3-5 Trial Day 1 - 970
3-2 Trial Day 2 - 966
E2-3 Beginning - 963
E1-3 End - 953
1-5 Trial Day 1 - 938
1-5 Investigation Day 3 - 932
E1-4 Beginning - 926
2-2 Investigation Day 1 - 924
5-6 Investigation Day 1 - 921
6-3 Investigation Day 2 - 921
E2-1 End - 914
5-2 Trial Day 1 - 904
5-6 Investigation Day 2 - 903
2-3 Investigation Day 2 - 900
2-1 - 899
5-3 Trial Day 2 - 899
6-6 Trial Day 2 - 892
4-2 Investigation Day 2 - 891
5-2 Trial Day 2 - 875
1-5 Investigation Day 1 - 874
5-4 Investigation Day 1 - 872
E2-4 Beginning - 871
E2-4 Middle - 868
5-5 Investigation Day 1 - 857
4-4 Investigation Day 1 - 853
E2-5 End - 852
2-3 Trial Day 1 - 851
4-3 Trial Day 1 - 834
6-3 Trial Day 1 - 833
1-5 Trial Day 2 - 827
5-2 Investigation Day 2 - 822
2-2 Investigation Day 2 - 808
2-3 Trial Day 2 - 802
5-3 Investigation Day 2 - 789
E1-2 Beginning - 788
5-3 Investigation Day 1 - 785
2-2 Trial Day 2 - 764
4-4 Trial Day 1 - 748
E1-3 Beginning - 744
1-4 Investigation Day 2 - 729
5-3 Trial Day 1 - 729
E1-5 Beginning - 729
4-2 Trial Day 1 - 724
E1-3 Middle - 715
3-3 Trial Day 1 - 708
5-6 Trial Day 1 - 704
1-4 Investigation Day 1 - 700
3-2 Trial Day 1 - 700
4-2 Trial Day 2 - 699
4-0 - 679
E1-2 End - 670
1-3 Investigation Day 2 - 661
5-1 Trial Day 2 - 630
1-4 Trial Day 3 - 626
2-2 Trial Day 1 - 623
5-4 Trial Day 2 - 617
6-6 Trial Day 1 - 542
E1-2 Middle - 537
E1-1 Beginning - 535
E2-2 Beginning - 534
5-4 Trial Day 1 - 529
1-2 Trial Day 1 - 524
1-4 Trial Day 1 - 519
1-3 Trial Day 2 - 517
E1-1 End - 504
4-4 Trial Day 2 - 503
1-4 Investigation Day 3 - 478
5-1 Trial Day 1 - 472
1-3 Investigation Day 1 - 455
1-2 Trial Day 2 - 447
1-4 Trial Day 2 - 414
1-3 Trial Day 3 - 403
1-2 Investigation Day 1 - 402
1-2 Investigation Day 2 - 400
1-1 - 389
1-3 Trial Day 1 - 380
1-3 Investigation Day 3 - 325

Total lines by case:

6-5 - 6722
2-4 - 5946
1-5 - 5913
3-5 - 5815
E1-5 - 4831
E2-5 - 4777
4-3 - 4494
3-2 - 4151
3-3 - 4063
6-3 - 3979
E2-3 - 3959
4-4 - 3952
E2-2 - 3936
2-3 - 3884
5-2 - 3750
5-6 - 3616
4-2 - 3468
1-4 - 3466
5-3 - 3202
6-6 - 3134
2-2 - 3119
6-2 - 2987
E1-4 - 2935
E2-4 - 2868
1-3 - 2741
5-5 - 2550
E1-3 - 2412
5-4 - 2018
E1-2 - 1995
G1-1 - 1985
E2-1 - 1923
1-2 - 1773
6-4 - 1650
4-1 - 1421
6-1 - 1362
3-4 - 1225
3-1 - 1167
5-1 - 1102
E1-1 - 1039
2-1 - 899
4-0 - 679
1-1 - 389

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Most lines per case:

Apollo Justice (6-5) - 2482
Phoenix Wright (2-4) - 2194
Miles Edgeworth (E1-5) - 2036
Phoenix Wright (1-5) - 2032
Miles Edgeworth (E2-5) - 1854
Phoenix Wright (6-3) - 1731
Apollo Justice (4-3) - 1673
Miles Edgeworth (E2-2) - 1597
Phoenix Wright (3-5) - 1570
Apollo Justice (5-2) - 1529
Phoenix Wright (3-3) - 1476
Phoenix Wright (3-2) - 1433
Phoenix Wright (2-2) - 1370
Phoenix Wright (6-6) - 1366
Phoenix Wright (5-6) - 1349
Apollo Justice (4-2) - 1339
Miles Edgeworth (E1-4) - 1328
Athena Cykes (5-3) - 1260
Phoenix Wright (2-3) - 1236
Phoenix Wright (1-4) - 1211
Apollo Justice (6-2) - 1170
Miles Edgeworth (E2-4) - 1133
Phoenix Wright (1-3) - 1117
Miles Edgeworth (E1-3) - 1059
Miles Edgeworth (E1-2) - 936
Phoenix Wright (5-5) - 931
Phoenix Wright (4-4) - 914
Miles Edgeworth (E2-3) - 870
Miles Edgeworth (E2-1) - 830
Phoenix Wright (1-2) - 812
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-1) - 660
Athena Cykes (6-4) - 646
Phoenix Wright (5-4) - 588
Phoenix Wright (6-1) - 514
Miles Edgeworth (E1-1) - 466
Apollo Justice (4-1) - 440
Mia Fey (3-4) - 436
Mia Fey (3-1) - 396
Phoenix Wright (5-1) - 337
Phoenix Wright (2-1) - 329
Phoenix Wright (4-0) - 236
Phoenix Wright (1-1) - 135

Highest percentage of lines per case:

Miles Edgeworth (E1-2) - 46.92%
Phoenix Wright (1-2) - 45.80%
Miles Edgeworth (E1-4) - 45.25%
Miles Edgeworth (E1-1) - 44.85%
Phoenix Wright (2-2) - 43.92%
Miles Edgeworth (E1-3) - 43.91%
Phoenix Wright (6-6) - 43.59%
Phoenix Wright (6-3) - 43.50%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-1) - 43.16%
Miles Edgeworth (E1-5) - 42.14%
Apollo Justice (5-2) - 40.77%
Phoenix Wright (1-3) - 40.75%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-2) - 40.57%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-4) - 39.50%
Athena Cykes (5-3) - 39.35%
Apollo Justice (6-2) - 39.17%
Athena Cykes (6-4) - 39.15%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-5) - 38.81%
Apollo Justice (4-2) - 38.61%
Phoenix Wright (6-1) - 37.74%
Phoenix Wright (5-6) - 37.31%
Apollo Justice (4-3) - 37.23%
Apollo Justice (6-5) - 36.92%
Phoenix Wright (2-4) - 36.90%
Phoenix Wright (2-1) - 36.60%
Phoenix Wright (5-5) - 36.51%
Phoenix Wright (3-3) - 36.33%
Mia Fey (3-4) - 35.59%
Phoenix Wright (1-4) - 34.94%
Phoenix Wright (4-0) - 34.76%
Phoenix Wright (1-1) - 34.70%
Phoenix Wright (3-2) - 34.52%
Phoenix Wright (1-5) - 34.36%
Mia Fey (3-1) - 33.93%
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-1) - 33.25%
Phoenix Wright (2-3) - 31.82%
Apollo Justice (4-1) - 30.96%
Phoenix Wright (5-1) - 30.58%
Phoenix Wright (5-4) - 29.14%
Phoenix Wright (3-5) - 27.00%
Phoenix Wright (4-4) - 23.13%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-3) - 21.98%

Testimonies by character:

1. Dick Gumshoe - 105 lines/19 testimonies
2. Dahlia Hawthorne - 75 lines/12 testimonies
3. Shi-Long Lang - 56 lines/12 testimonies
4. Larry Butz - 54 lines/10 testimonies
5. Ema Skye - 49 lines/10 testimonies
6. Wendy Oldbag - 49 lines/9 testimonies
7. Calisto Yew/Shih-na - 41 lines/9 testimonies
8. Franziska von Karma - 43 lines/8 testimonies
9. Bobby Fulbright - 43 lines/7 testimonies
10. Lamiroir - 40 lines/7 testimonies
11. Rayfa Padma Khura'in - 41 lines/6 testimonies
12. Luke Atmey - 38 lines/6 testimonies
13. Adrian Andrews - 34 lines/6 testimonies
14. Lotta Hart - 31 lines/6 testimonies
15. Shelly de Killer - 31 lines/6 testimonies
16. Jacques Portsman - 29 lines/6 testimonies
17. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 34 lines/5 testimonies
18. Frank Sahwit - 32 lines/5 testimonies
19. Uendo Toneido - 32 lines/5 testimonies
20. Phoenix Wright - 30 lines/5 testimonies
21. Justine Courtney - 24 lines/5 testimonies
22. Maya Fey - 29 lines/5 testimonies
23. Quercus Alba - 21 lines/5 testimonies
24. Redd White - 29 lines/4 testimonies
25. Angel Starr - 24 lines/4 testimonies
26. Bikini - 24 lines/4 testimonies
27. Ini Miney - 24 lines/4 testimonies
28. Olga Orly - 24 lines/4 testimonies
29. Spark Brushel - 24 lines/4 testimonies
30. Furio Tigre - 23 lines/4 testimonies
31. Alita Tiala - 22 lines/4 testimonies
32. Jean Armstrong - 22 lines/4 testimonies
33. Sebastian Debeste - 22 lines/4 testimonies
34. Datz Are'bal - 21 lines/4 testimonies
35. Victor Kudo - 21 lines/4 testimonies
36. Marlon Rimes - 20 lines/4 testimonies
37. Mike Meekins - 20 lines/4 testimonies
38. Wesley Stickler - 20 lines/4 testimonies
39. Simon Keyes - 19 lines/4 testimonies
40. Hugh O'Conner - 24 lines/3 testimonies
41. Yuri Cosmos - 23 lines/3 testimonies
42. Cody Hackins - 21 lines/3 testimonies
43. Damon Gant - 20 lines/3 testimonies
44. Daryan Crescend - 19 lines/3 testimonies
45. Florent L'Belle - 19 lines/3 testimonies
46. Lana Skye - 19 lines/3 testimonies
47. Paul Atishon-Wimperson - 19 lines/3 testimonies
48. Pees'lubn Andistan'dhin - 19 lines/3 testimonies
49. Armie Buff/Sarge - 18 lines/3 testimonies
50. Jake Marshall - 18 lines/3 testimonies
51. Patricia Roland - 18 lines/3 testimonies
52. Amara Sigatar Khura'in - 17 lines/3 testimonies
53. Ron DeLite - 17 lines/3 testimonies
54. Trilo Quist - 17 lines/3 testimonies
55. Will Powers - 17 lines/3 testimonies
56. Lauren Paups - 16 lines/3 testimonies
57. Geiru Toneido - 15 lines/3 testimonies
58. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 15 lines/3 testimonies
59. Sirhan Dogen - 15 lines/3 testimonies
60. Horace Knightley - 14 lines/3 testimonies
61. Phineas Filch - 14 lines/3 testimonies
62. Tahrust Inmee - 14 lines/3 testimonies
63. Ted Tonate - 14 lines/3 testimonies
64. Manfred von Karma - 12 lines/3 testimonies
65. Juniper Woods - 17 lines/2 testimonies
66. Simon Blackquill - 17 lines/2 testimonies
67. Dee Vasquez - 16 lines/2 testimonies
68. April May - 14 lines/2 testimonies
69. Valant Gramarye - 14 lines/2 testimonies
70. Betty de Famme - 13 lines/2 testimonies
71. Yanni Yogi - 13 lines/2 testimonies
72. Dane Gustavia - 12 lines/2 testimonies
73. John Marsh - 12 lines/2 testimonies
74. Kristoph Gavin - 12 lines/2 testimonies
75. Pierce Nichody - 12 lines/2 testimonies
76. Sal Manella - 12 lines/2 testimonies
77. Zinc Lablanc - 12 lines/2 testimonies
78. Blaise Debeste - 11 lines/2 testimonies
79. Jay Elbird - 11 lines/2 testimonies
80. Sorin Sprocket - 11 lines/2 testimonies
81. Tyrell Badd - 11 lines/2 testimonies
82. Aristotle Means - 10 lines/2 testimonies
83. Katherine Hall - 10 lines/2 testimonies
84. Lance Amano - 10 lines/2 testimonies
85. Norma DePlume - 10 lines/2 testimonies
86. Richard Wellington - 10 lines/2 testimonies
87. Roger Retinz/The Great Mr. Reus - 10 lines/2 testimonies
88. The Judge - 10 lines/2 testimonies
89. Myriam Scuttlebutt - 9 lines/2 testimonies
90. Rhoda Teneiro - 9 lines/2 testimonies
91. Cammy Meele - 8 lines/2 testimonies
92. Solomon Starbuck - 7 lines/2 testimonies
93. Iyesa Nosa - 6 lines/2 testimonies
94. Kyurio Korekuta - 4 lines/2 testimonies
95. Robin Newman - 14 lines/1 testimony
96. Dhurke Sahdmadhi - 8 lines/1 testimony
97. Miles Edgeworth - 8 lines/1 testimony
98. Damian Tenma - 7 lines/1 testimony
99. Herman Crab - 7 lines/1 testimony
100. Trucy Wright - 7 lines/1 testimony
101. Wocky Kitaki - 7 lines/1 testimony
102. Bonny/Betty de Famme - 6 lines/1 testimony
103. Di-Jun Huang - 6 lines/1 testimony
104. Jinxie Tenma - 6 lines/1 testimony
105. Kay Faraday - 6 lines/1 testimony
106. Karin Jenson/Bonnie Young - 6 lines/1 testimony
107. Morgan Fey - 6 lines/1 testimony
108. Nahyuta Sahdmadhi - 6 lines/1 testimony
109. Ponco - 6 lines/1 testimony
110. Satoru Hosonaga - 6 lines/1 testimony
111. Terry Fawles - 6 lines/1 testimony
112. Vera Misham - 6 lines/1 testimony
113. Jezaille Brett - 5 lines/1 testimony
114. Sasha Buckler - 5 lines/1 testimony
115. The Bellboy - 5 lines/1 testimony
116. Ahlbi Ur'gaid - 4 lines/1 testimony
117. Apollo Justice - 4 lines/1 testimony
118. Nicole Swift - 4 lines/1 testimony
119. Orla Shipley - 4 lines/1 testimony
120. Polly - 3 lines/1 testimony

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Total lines by character:

1. Phoenix Wright - 24094
2. Miles Edgeworth - 15372
3. Apollo Justice - 10237
4. The Judge - 6966
5. Maya Fey - 5237
6. Athena Cykes - 4816
7. Dick Gumshoe - 4089
8. Kay Faraday - 3370
9. Trucy Wright - 2629
10. Ema Skye - 2434
11. Franziska von Karma - 2314
12. Mia Fey - 1418
13. Pearl Fey - 1281
14. Simon Blackquill - 1280
15. Larry Butz - 1205
16. Klavier Gavin - 1154
17. Shi-Long Lang - 1101
18. Justine Courtney - 1016
19. Rayfa Padma Khura'in - 988
20. Raymond Shields - 971
21. Godot - 902
22. Nahyuta Sahdmadhi - 892
23. Khura'in Judge - 754
24. Bobby Fulbright - 700
25. Ryunosuke Naruhodo - 660
26. Gregory Edgeworth - 649
27. Lotta Hart - 648
28. Tyrell Badd - 593
29. Dahlia Hawthorne - 578
30. Dhurke Sahdmadhi - 562
31. Wendy Oldbag - 553
32. Sebastian Debeste - 521
33. Calisto Yew/Shih-na - 489
34. Adrian Andrews - 459
35. Winston Payne - 453
36. Manfred von Karma - 444
37. The Judge's Brother - 421
38. Kazuma Asogi - 405
39. Shelly de Killer - 387
40. Lamiroir/Thalassa Gramarye - 386
41. Datz Are'bal - 381
42. Will Powers - 380
43. Simon Keyes - 380
44. Bikini - 351
45. Gaspen Payne - 335
46. Ga'ran Sigatar Khura'in - 329
47. Maggey Byrde - 323
48. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 320
49. Kristoph Gavin - 319
50. Ahlbi Ur'gaid - 319
51. Quercus Alba - 303
52. Valant Gramarye - 298
53. Luke Atmey - 292
54. Damon Gant - 285
55. Juniper Woods - 277
56. Ini Miney - 275
57. Angel Starr - 272
58. Ron DeLite - 271
59. Rhoda Teneiro - 268
60. Katherine Hall - 267
61. Blaise Debeste - 265
62. Regina Berry - 261
63. Jake Marshall - 257
64. Taketsuchi Auchi - 256
65. Jean Armstrong - 251
66. Nicole Swift - 250
67. Lana Skye - 249
68. Victor Kudo - 247
69. Mike Meekins - 235
70. Marvin Grossberg - 234
71. Jacques Portsman - 231
72. Spark Brushel - 230
73. Frank Sahwit - 219
74. Alita Tiala - 219
75. Hugh O'Conner - 218
76. Marlon Rimes - 217
77. Patricia Roland - 217
78. Daryan Crescend - 216
79. Dane Gustavia - 209
80. Horace Knightley - 209
81. Florent L'Belle - 208
82. The Japanese Judge - 208
83. Maximillion Galactica - 203
84. Ben & Trilo Quist - 200
85. Pierce Nichody - 200
86. Yuri Cosmos - 199
87. Sasha Buckler - 198
88. Penny Nichols - 194
89. Phineas Filch - 192
90. Jinxie Tenma - 191
91. Paul Atishon-Wimperson - 187
92. Uendo Toneido (Combined) - 186
93. Armie Buff/Sarge - 182
94. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 182
95. Roger Retinz/Mr. Reus - 182
96. Iris - 181
97. Herman Crab - 180
98. Damian Tenma - 179
99. Pees'lubn Andistan'dhin - 178
100. Furio Tigre - 176
101. Zak Gramarye - 174
102. Matt Engarde - 171
103. Sirhan Dogen - 170
104. Cammy Meele - 168
105. Morgan Fey - 165
106. Redd White - 162
107. Betty de Famme - 158
108. Aristotle Means - 154
109. Solomon Starbuck - 154
110. John Marsh - 153
111. Robin Newman - 153
112. Delicia Scones - 151
113. Colias Palaeno - 150
114. Dee Vasquez - 148
115. Satoru Hosonaga - 146
116. Zinc Lablanc - 146
117. Ellen Wyatt - 143
118. Desiree DeLite - 142
119. Ted Tonate - 141
120. Trilo Quist - 140
121. Wesley Stickler - 138
122. Cody Hackins - 135
123. Norma DePlume - 134
124. Olga Orly - 131
125. Lauren Paups - 130
126. Tahrust Inmee - 130
127. Karin Jenson - 129
128. Jezaille Brett - 127
129. Sorin Sprocket - 127
130. Amara Sigatar Khura'in - 123
131. Myriam Scuttlebutt - 123
132. Aura Blackquill - 122
133. Guy Eldoon - 118
134. Bonny de Famme - 113
135. Wocky Kitaki - 112
136. Di-Jun Huang - 110
137. Geiru Toneido - 108
138. The Phantom - 107
139. Richard Wellington - 107
140. April May - 104
141. Uendo Toneido - 104
142. Vera Misham - 104
143. Jay Elbird - 102
144. Yanni Yogi - 98
145. Beh'leeb Inmee - 92
146. Lance Amano - 92
147. Jeff Master - 90
148. Viola Cadaverini - 80
149. Director Hotti/Doctor Hickfield - 76
150. Plum Kitaki - 76
151. Terry Fawles - 74
152. Drew Misham - 74
153. Iyesa Nosa - 72
154. The Bellboy - 72
155. Ernest Amano - 68
156. Ponco - 66
157. Benjamin Woodman - 60
158. Sal Manella - 59
159. Chief of Detectives - 55
160. Bonnie Young - 53
161. Patches - 50
162. Inga Karkhuul Khura'in - 46
163. Kisegawa - 46
164. Lisa Basil - 46
165. Kyurio Korekuta - 44
166. Clonco - 43
167. Widget - 42
168. Machi Tobaye - 41
169. Orla Shipley - 40
170. Bucky Whet - 39
171. Turner Grey - 39
172. Yujin Mikotoba - 39
173. Elise Deauxnim - 30
174. Owen - 26
175. The Amazing Mr. Hat - 22
176. Shah'do - 21
177. Missile - 20
178. Polly - 20
179. Winfred "Big Wins" Kitaki - 20
180. Susato Mikotoba - 16
181. Romein LeTouse - 13
182. Taka - 10

Overall total lines - 126619

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Godot has barely over 900, but still has one of the biggest presences.

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And Manfred von Karma has half of that!

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the OT (and especially PW1) does not waste your time

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SSBM_Guy posted...

the OT (and especially PW1) does not waste your time

PW1 would have the fewest lines of any game in the series by a wide margin if not for 1-5.

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Anagram posted...

Godot has barely over 900, but still has one of the biggest presences.

It sort of makes sense. Every character above him except for Klavier and the Judge is either a protagonist, an investigation assistant, or has at least two separate cross-examinations.

Yeah, he's still top 25 for the series, and there are only 11 characters who have significantly more lines than him, and we'd say those are probably the most important characters in the series (along with Mia, who hangs in strong at 12th despite being dead for most of the series and hasn't been seen since the OT!).

I'm confident Naruhodo and Susato surpass him by the time this is over, for sure. Probably Van Zieks, too. Not sure if anyone else from GAA will.

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Line counts are of course a little misleading too, since it's entire unbroken sentences and not total text boxes, and Godot has a little bit of a habit of monologuing even by AA character standards.

Can you bold the changes to the big lists? It's really hard to see all of the changes when there's so many characters to scroll through.
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I'd guess that Iris passes Godot too, since Ray managed it and they're both in that weird backup partner spot.

Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, if Kazuma got nearly halfway there in just one case as an assistant, I think Iris is nearly a guarantee to pass Godot.
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Paratroopa1 posted...

Line counts are of course a little misleading too, since it's entire unbroken sentences and not total text boxes, and Godot has a little bit of a habit of monologuing even by AA character standards.

This is also true. He does have a few of those. I don't know that total text boxes would shift the rankings too much because I feel like things eventually balance out in the end though.

Mewtwo59 posted...

Can you bold the changes to the big lists? It's really hard to see all of the changes when there's so many characters to scroll through.

Yeah, I'll do that for future updates.

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How do you count flashback lines and lines only spoken when you make a mistake?

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Anagram posted...

How do you count flashback lines and lines only spoken when you make a mistake?

I don't count flashback lines. I also don't count "..." as a line since nothing was spoken.

I do try to get wrong answer dialogue when it's a multiple choice situation. I'll just save and reload afterwards. I don't try to get every single piece of wrong answer dialogue though because it would just take too long, especially with the older games where saving and reloading over and over is kind of a hassle. If I happen upon it naturally, I'll count it though. I don't make a lot of unintentional mistakes though since I'm pretty familiar with most of the games.

So I get that what I'm doing isn't going to be 100% accurate, but it at least gives us a ballpark estimate to work with.

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Leonhart4 posted...

I also don't count "..." as a line since nothing was spoken.

I actually almost asked about that, but decided you probably did count ellipses, so I didn't. Interesting.

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It's probably good because holy cow that first case went all in on the repeated use of every character in the room going "..." to signify awkward silence!

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Mewtwo59 posted...

I'd guess that Iris passes Godot too, since Ray managed it and they're both in that weird backup partner spot.

Notably, Grossberg doesn't even come close, even though he also counts as a backup partner!

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Well, Grossberg is a backup for a much shorter tutorial case, and he's absent for half of it, to boot.

Iris will probably come close, but I feel like she has fairly minor roles (or none at all in the first few here), so she may not get there. I think Holmes will end up with more lines, and I'm not sure he'll beat Godot either.

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G1-2 is entitled The Adventure of the Unbreakable Speckled Band, derived from the Sherlock Holmes story of (almost) the same name (the word "Unbreakable" isn't in the original title). It might be the most critically acclaimed of the short stories. Although not my personal favorite, it is indeed quite good. A lot of Sherlock's erroneous deductions in this game are summaries of the stories each case is based on, for the record.

I won't spoil the details of the story in case someone is inspired by these games to read Sherlock Holmes (as I was), although perhaps the statute of limitations has expired at this point, and the intro gives some of the details anyway.

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Hmm...Susato's made a couple of slips of the tongue that seem a bit significant based on what happens later, but I'm not totally sure because I don't recall exactly how it plays out later.

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Susato's thinly veiled Holmes fangirlism is excellent

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Ah, they call the magazines Holmes stories were published in the Randst here. I was wondering if they'd call it Strand or not.

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Bif Strogenov, well chosen

pulling names out of the Romein Letouse handbook for this game

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I'm trying to figure out what to do with these Holmes deductive reasoning things for the line counts. Maybe I should count them the same as testimonies because that's basically what they are.

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