Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 240: Slow News Week

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LordoftheMorons 09/26/19 2:15:51 AM #154:	https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1177049958907879425 .@murraywaas on Giuliani: "The Ukrainian initiative appears to have begun in service of formulating a rationale by which the president could pardon Manafort, as part of an effort to undermine the special counsels investigation." Wow. https://nybooks.com/daily/2019/09/25/trump-giuliani-and-manafort-the-ukraine-scheme/ @nybooks --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927959257] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1177049958907879425 <quote>.@murraywaas on Giuliani: "The Ukrainian initiative appears to have begun in service of formulating a rationale by which the president could pardon Manafort, as part of an effort to undermine the special counsels investigation." Wow. https://nybooks.com/daily/2019/09/25/trump-giuliani-and-manafort-the-ukraine-scheme/ @nybooks</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 09/26/19 3:21:16 AM #155:	So we've reached the point where Fox News is actively attacking each other on-air: http://www.newshounds.us/tucker_carlson_attacks_colleague_shepard_smith_dishonest_opinion_not_news_092519 --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:927960420] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>So we've reached the point where Fox News is actively attacking each other on-air: http://www.newshounds.us/tucker_carlson_attacks_colleague_shepard_smith_dishonest_opinion_not_news_092519</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 09/26/19 7:15:17 AM #156:	CARLSON: That's why it doesn't seem honest to me when a host, any host on any channel, including this one, pretends that the answer is obvious, there is ironclad consensus about what the answer is when there, in fact, isn't, when it's a subjective question. That's not news, is it? That's opinion I know we touch on this a lot, but it really is incredible how much projection the right engages in. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:927963838] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote><quote>CARLSON: That's why it doesn't seem honest to me when a host, any host on any channel, including this one, pretends that the answer is obvious, there is ironclad consensus about what the answer is when there, in fact, isn't, when it's a subjective question. That's not news, is it? That's opinion</quote> I know we touch on this a lot, but it really is incredible how much projection the right engages in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sorozone 09/26/19 8:59:36 AM #157:	https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf --- https://m.twitch.tv/sorozone/profile <cite>Sorozone posted [p:927966144] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hannyabal 09/26/19 10:01:41 AM #158:	Sorozone posted... https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf Very interesting. The biggest piece of news from this is the suggestion that this is not the first phone call thats been hidden (for political purposes) on a private server meant for extremely sensitive information that presents a national security risk. <cite>Hannyabal posted [p:927968030] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Sorozone posted...</cite> <quote>https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf</quote> Very interesting. The biggest piece of news from this is the suggestion that this is not the first phone call thats been hidden (for political purposes) on a private server meant for extremely sensitive information that presents a national security risk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 09/26/19 10:09:05 AM #159:	The buttery males will be surely outraged about this, right --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:927968294] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>The buttery males will be surely outraged about this, right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pyresword 09/26/19 10:11:17 AM #160:	Would also like to point to the existence of the Inspector General's report on the whistleblower complaint, which--among other things--independently explains that they believe the source to be both credible and knowledgable: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/read-icig-report-dni-whistleblower-complaint/ (don't have a direct link sorry) (bolded emphasis mine) The Complainant's identity is known to me. The preliminary review indicated that the Complainant has official and authorized access to the information and sources referenced in the Complainant's Letter and Classified Appendix, and that the Complainant has subject matter expertise related to much of the material information provided in the Complainant's Letter and Classifed Appendix. The Complainant's Letter acknowledges that the Complainant was not a direct witness to the President's telephone call with the Ukrainian President on July 25, 2019. Other information obtained during the preliminary review, however, supports the Complainant's allegation that, among other things, during the call the President sought to pressure the Ukrainian leader to take actions to help the President's 2020 reelection bid. Further, although the preliminary review identified some indicia of an arguable political bias on the part of the Complainant in favor of a rival political candidate, such evidence did not change my determination that the complaint relating to the urgent concern "appears credible", particularly given the other information the ICIG obtained during its preliminary review. --- Oh woops. Putting Advokaiser in my sig like this until I think of something more clever <cite>pyresword posted [p:927968367] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Would also like to point to the existence of the Inspector General's report on the whistleblower complaint, which--among other things--independently explains that they believe the source to be both credible and knowledgable: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/read-icig-report-dni-whistleblower-complaint/ (don't have a direct link sorry) (bolded emphasis mine) <quote>The Complainant's identity is known to me.</quote> <quote>The preliminary review indicated that the Complainant has official and authorized access to the information and sources referenced in the Complainant's Letter and Classified Appendix, and that the Complainant has subject matter expertise related to much of the material information provided in the Complainant's Letter and Classifed Appendix.</quote> <quote>The Complainant's Letter acknowledges that the Complainant was not a direct witness to the President's telephone call with the Ukrainian President on July 25, 2019. Other information obtained during the preliminary review, however, supports the Complainant's allegation that, among other things, during the call the President sought to pressure the Ukrainian leader to take actions to help the President's 2020 reelection bid. Further, although the preliminary review identified some indicia of an arguable political bias on the part of the Complainant in favor of a rival political candidate, such evidence did not change my determination that the complaint relating to the urgent concern "appears credible", particularly given the other information the ICIG obtained during its preliminary review.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 09/26/19 10:24:23 AM #161:	Interesting complaint. I see why Trump said the person was heavily partisan. That said, whether the person is or not doesn't really take away the gravity of the complaint. Interesting to find out more details when they come out. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:927968805] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Interesting complaint. I see why Trump said the person was heavily partisan. That said, whether the person is or not doesn't really take away the gravity of the complaint. Interesting to find out more details when they come out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 09/26/19 10:31:00 AM #162:	What a wiener the whistleblower must be. He/she heard from other people (who did not apparently think this was egregious enough to file a report) and then took it upon himself to file this secondhand report. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:927969035] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>What a wiener the whistleblower must be. He/she heard from other people (who did not apparently think this was egregious enough to file a report) and then took it upon himself to file this secondhand report. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 09/26/19 10:37:24 AM #163:	https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1177228088255700992?s=21 .@RepMikeTurner (R) to Trump: "I want to say to the president, this is not okay. That conversation is not okay. I think it's disappointing to the American public when they read the transcript." See this is what happens when they dont get the talking points --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:927969255] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1177228088255700992?s=21 <quote> .@RepMikeTurner (R) to Trump: "I want to say to the president, this is not okay. That conversation is not okay. I think it's disappointing to the American public when they read the transcript."</quote> See this is what happens when they dont get the talking points</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 09/26/19 10:43:48 AM #164:	Nelson_Mandela posted... What a wiener the whistleblower must be. He/she heard from other people (who did not apparently think this was egregious enough to file a report) and then took it upon himself to file this secondhand report. Nah. It should have been filed. If the president did withhold aid simply because they wouldn't investigate Biden then that is an issue. The conversation is not an issue itself as we have seen so far. But, if there is more to it than that then there is an issue. So, we will have to see if something exists to corroborate that. What people think exists far as a link matters nothing. It is whether there clearly is a link or not. So, we shall see. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:927969493] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted... </cite> <quote>What a wiener the whistleblower must be. He/she heard from other people (who did not apparently think this was egregious enough to file a report) and then took it upon himself to file this secondhand report.</quote>Nah. It should have been filed. If the president did withhold aid simply because they wouldn't investigate Biden then that is an issue. The conversation is not an issue itself as we have seen so far. But, if there is more to it than that then there is an issue. So, we will have to see if something exists to corroborate that. What people think exists far as a link matters nothing. It is whether there clearly is a link or not. So, we shall see. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 09/26/19 10:49:58 AM #165:	The talking points didn't have FW: RE: RE: FW: at the front since they were just screenshots from Twitter --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:927969756] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>The talking points didn't have FW: RE: RE: FW: at the front since they were just screenshots from Twitter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 09/26/19 10:55:08 AM #166:	Man of course Trump tries to sloppily cover up something and then come out later to say that the thing he tried to cover up isnt a crime --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:927969959] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Man of course Trump tries to sloppily cover up something and then come out later to say that the thing he tried to cover up isnt a crime</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 09/26/19 11:08:04 AM #167:	Even if you are ate up enough to think what he did is perfectly ok and good, SURELY even the most diehard Republican can see that Trump's willingness to cover up anything with even the appearance of criminality is an extremely bad thing? Like seriously, ditch this fucking guy and reclaim your fucking party, Jesus. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:927970414] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Even if you are ate up enough to think what he did is perfectly ok and good, SURELY even the most diehard Republican can see that Trump's willingness to cover up anything with even the appearance of criminality is an extremely bad thing? Like seriously, ditch this fucking guy and reclaim your fucking party, Jesus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 09/26/19 11:08:54 AM #168:	Swalwell is so much better in this hearing than he ever was on the debate stage <cite>Reg posted [p:927970435] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Swalwell is so much better in this hearing than he ever was on the debate stage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 09/26/19 11:57:35 AM #169:	who had "misuse of government communication with regards to a server" on their bingo card --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:927972478] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>who had "misuse of government communication with regards to a server" on their bingo card</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 09/26/19 12:27:31 PM #170:	Yeah "don't keep these transcripts where diplomatic transcripts are supposed to be kept, put it in a secure spot where less people will have access to it" is pretty damn sus. --- ~C~ FD https://imgur.com/dGDfxaw <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:927973802] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Yeah "don't keep these transcripts where diplomatic transcripts are supposed to be kept, put it in a secure spot where less people will have access to it" is pretty damn sus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 09/26/19 12:28:56 PM #171:	Reg posted... Swalwell is so much better in this hearing than he ever was on the debate stage I missed the swalwell bit, but Schiff had some good stuff at the end. All in all this thing appears to have more substance than I thought it might. I'm very curious where this thing goes from here. --- ~C~ FD https://imgur.com/dGDfxaw <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:927973868] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Reg posted... </cite> <quote>Swalwell is so much better in this hearing than he ever was on the debate stage</quote> I missed the swalwell bit, but Schiff had some good stuff at the end. All in all this thing appears to have more substance than I thought it might. I'm very curious where this thing goes from here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 09/26/19 12:31:44 PM #172:	It's almost as if the administration doesn't trust these career bureaucrats not to leak easily spinnable information. How paranoid of them! --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:927973976] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>It's almost as if the administration doesn't trust these career bureaucrats not to leak easily spinnable information. How paranoid of them! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 09/26/19 12:32:27 PM #173:	This was noted by some people when we just had the call memo, but the fact that Trump on the call was talking to the President of Ukraine about the DNC Server confirms that he still doesn't believe the FBI and IC about Russia being responsible and it's not just some pandering/bloviating he does at campaign rallies. Also leads to a hilarious footnote in the whistleblower complaint: "3 I do not know why the President associates these servers with Ukraine." --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:927974004] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>This was noted by some people when we just had the call memo, but the fact that Trump on the call was talking to the President of Ukraine about the DNC Server confirms that he still doesn't believe the FBI and IC about Russia being responsible and it's not just some pandering/bloviating he does at campaign rallies. Also leads to a hilarious footnote in the whistleblower complaint: "3 I do not know why the President associates these servers with Ukraine."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/26/19 1:14:41 PM #174:	https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/1177254722266288128?s=21 Poor Ken --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927975703] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/1177254722266288128?s=21 Poor Ken</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 09/26/19 1:15:43 PM #175:	It's laughable that the only defense available now is "well the information the whistleblower used was second hand" when the summarized transcript of the call directly corroborates those portions of the whistleblower's allegations. Any reasonable person would take from that they idea that the rest of the allegations deserve to be investigated. Just imagine if any of the "half dozen" sources come forward and provide first hand information so even that tenuous defense is squashed. --- ~C~ FD https://imgur.com/dGDfxaw <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:927975745] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>It's laughable that the only defense available now is "well the information the whistleblower used was second hand" when the summarized transcript of the call directly corroborates those portions of the whistleblower's allegations. Any reasonable person would take from that they idea that the rest of the allegations deserve to be investigated. Just imagine if any of the "half dozen" sources come forward and provide first hand information so even that tenuous defense is squashed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/26/19 1:25:24 PM #176:	Trump openly threatening the whistleblower: https://twitter.com/elistokols/status/1177265537056989184?s=21 Im beginning to suspect that this Trump guy isnt very bright! --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927976189] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Trump openly threatening the whistleblower: https://twitter.com/elistokols/status/1177265537056989184?s=21 Im beginning to suspect that this Trump guy isnt very bright!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 09/26/19 1:30:02 PM #177:	definitely sounds like the kind of behavior you'd expect from an innocent* guy i'm sorry someone who "doesn't know if they're the most innocent person in the world" --- xp1337:* Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:927976385] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>definitely sounds like the kind of behavior you'd expect from an innocent* guy *i'm sorry someone who "doesn't know if they're the most innocent person in the world"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 09/26/19 1:50:20 PM #178:	New yougov poll shows that 22% of Republicans would strongly support impeaching trump if the Ukraine allegations (he suspended aid so that Ukraine would investigate Biden) are true. Obviously the usual caveats apply "only one poll, etc etc" but the fact that that number is even in the double digits is quite surprising. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:927977233] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>New yougov poll shows that 22% of Republicans would strongly support impeaching trump if the Ukraine allegations (he suspended aid so that Ukraine would investigate Biden) are true. Obviously the usual caveats apply "only one poll, etc etc" but the fact that that number is even in the double digits is quite surprising.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 09/26/19 1:51:58 PM #179:	Forceful_Dragon posted... It's laughable that the only defense available now is "well the information the whistleblower used was second hand" when the summarized transcript of the call directly corroborates those portions of the whistleblower's allegations. Any reasonable person would take from that they idea that the rest of the allegations deserve to be investigated. It's worth noting that the Inspector General did a preliminary review to determine the credibility of the complaint, and found it credible without even needing to access the records of the call. (They didnt do this due to expediency - they had a time frame that it was supposed to be turned over to congress and expected a fight so submitted the request and report simultaneously). --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:927977287] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Forceful_Dragon posted... </cite> <quote>It's laughable that the only defense available now is "well the information the whistleblower used was second hand" when the summarized transcript of the call directly corroborates those portions of the whistleblower's allegations. Any reasonable person would take from that they idea that the rest of the allegations deserve to be investigated.</quote> It's worth noting that the Inspector General did a preliminary review to determine the credibility of the complaint, and found it credible without even needing to access the records of the call. (They didnt do this due to expediency - they had a time frame that it was supposed to be turned over to congress and expected a fight so submitted the request and report simultaneously). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 09/26/19 1:52:09 PM #180:	Peace___Frog posted... New yougov poll shows that 22% of Republicans would strongly support impeaching trump if the Ukraine allegations (he suspended aid so that Ukraine would investigate Biden) are true. Obviously the usual caveats apply "only one poll, etc etc" but the fact that that number is even in the double digits is quite surprising. That's because they think the allegations are false. If they believed they were true, that number would fall dramatically. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:927977291] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>New yougov poll shows that 22% of Republicans would strongly support impeaching trump if the Ukraine allegations (he suspended aid so that Ukraine would investigate Biden) are true. Obviously the usual caveats apply "only one poll, etc etc" but the fact that that number is even in the double digits is quite surprising.</quote> That's because they think the allegations are false. If they believed they were true, that number would fall dramatically.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/26/19 2:17:39 PM #181:	Forceful_Dragon posted... It's laughable that the only defense available now is "well the information the whistleblower used was second hand" when the summarized transcript of the call directly corroborates those portions of the whistleblower's allegations. Really seems like they're going with this, huh I mean I guess they don't exactly have a great hand with Trump admitting to most of it, but you'd think they could spin a little better than this! --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927978337] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Forceful_Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>It's laughable that the only defense available now is "well the information the whistleblower used was second hand" when the summarized transcript of the call directly corroborates those portions of the whistleblower's allegations.</quote> Really seems like they're going with this, huh I mean I guess they don't exactly have a great hand with Trump admitting to most of it, but you'd think they could spin a little better than this!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/26/19 2:43:34 PM #182:	https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/dni-whistleblower-testimony/#id_18873 Maguire is refusing to say whether he talked to Trump about the complaint, saying anything he says to the president is confidential. Worth noting that earlier, he did say the president didnt ask him to find out the whistleblowers identity but he wont say he didnt talk to the president. --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927979461] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/dni-whistleblower-testimony/#id_18873 <quote>Maguire is refusing to say whether he talked to Trump about the complaint, saying anything he says to the president is confidential. Worth noting that earlier, he did say the president didnt ask him to find out the whistleblowers identity but he wont say he didnt talk to the president.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 09/26/19 2:43:56 PM #183:	Nelson_Mandela posted... It's almost as if the administration doesn't trust these career bureaucrats not to leak easily spinnable information. How paranoid of them! Remember when the best praise people like SephG had for Trump was "At least you can trust him because he doesn't even bother to lie or hide things because he doesn't care!" --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:927979474] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>It's almost as if the administration doesn't trust these career bureaucrats not to leak easily spinnable information. How paranoid of them!</quote> Remember when the best praise people like SephG had for Trump was "At least you can trust him because he doesn't even bother to lie or hide things because he doesn't care!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 09/26/19 3:05:56 PM #184:	LordoftheMorons posted... Trump openly threatening the whistleblower: https://twitter.com/elistokols/status/1177265537056989184?s=21 Im beginning to suspect that this Trump guy isnt very bright! Yeah Don, we used to handle treasonous people differently. Now we make them our campaign managers --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:927980445] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>Trump openly threatening the whistleblower: https://twitter.com/elistokols/status/1177265537056989184?s=21 Im beginning to suspect that this Trump guy isnt very bright!</quote> Yeah Don, we used to handle treasonous people differently. Now we make them our campaign managers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/26/19 3:08:08 PM #185:	What the fuck NYT https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1177297796925444096?s=21 --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927980531] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>What the fuck NYT https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1177297796925444096?s=21</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 09/26/19 3:12:15 PM #186:	Thats tricky. Like I get the journalistic urge, but sometimes you have to be smarter than this --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:927980713] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Thats tricky. Like I get the journalistic urge, but sometimes you have to be smarter than this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 09/26/19 3:44:57 PM #187:	LordoftheMorons posted... What the fuck NYT https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1177297796925444096?s=21 https://files.catbox.moe/s6bsug.m4a <cite>Reg posted [p:927982136] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>What the fuck NYT https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1177297796925444096?s=21</quote> https://files.catbox.moe/s6bsug.m4a</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 09/26/19 3:50:25 PM #188:	I hastily made this https://imgflip.com/i/3bnp3n --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:927982401] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>I hastily made this https://imgflip.com/i/3bnp3n</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 09/26/19 3:57:29 PM #189:	also speaking of "what the fuck NYT" https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1177175443335766016 Original tweet that sparked this is now deleted and walked back with https://twitter.com/stavernise/status/1177214841406316544 but you get the point <cite>Reg posted [p:927982711] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>also speaking of "what the fuck NYT" https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1177175443335766016 Original tweet that sparked this is now deleted and walked back with https://twitter.com/stavernise/status/1177214841406316544 but you get the point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 09/26/19 4:06:29 PM #190:	Reg posted... also speaking of "what the fuck NYT" https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1177175443335766016 Original tweet that sparked this is now deleted and walked back with https://twitter.com/stavernise/status/1177214841406316544 but you get the point That's not even walking it back, it's just outright lying about what she said in the first place. "It wasn't about swing voters" as if the tweet didn't specifically say "I talked to six swing voters." --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:927983106] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Reg posted...</cite> <quote>also speaking of "what the fuck NYT" https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1177175443335766016 Original tweet that sparked this is now deleted and walked back with https://twitter.com/stavernise/status/1177214841406316544 but you get the point</quote> That's not even walking it back, it's just outright lying about what she said in the first place. "It wasn't about swing voters" as if the tweet didn't specifically say "I talked to six swing voters."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/26/19 4:09:06 PM #191:	Gov. Phil Scott (R-VT) backs impeachment: https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1177257803855138816?s=21 --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927983228] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Gov. Phil Scott (R-VT) backs impeachment: https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1177257803855138816?s=21</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 09/26/19 4:10:04 PM #192:	HashtagSEP posted... Reg posted... also speaking of "what the fuck NYT" https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1177175443335766016 Original tweet that sparked this is now deleted and walked back with https://twitter.com/stavernise/status/1177214841406316544 but you get the point That's not even walking it back, it's just outright lying about what she said in the first place. "It wasn't about swing voters" as if the tweet didn't specifically say "I talked to six swing voters." Yeah, true. I couldn't actually see the original tweet so I tried to give benefit of the doubt that was obviously not deserved (or the thread I linked wouldn't have been a thing in the first place) Also last 'what the fuck NYT' from me today I swear: https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-09-26/trump-at-private-breakfast-who-gave-the-whistle-blower-the-information-because-thats-almost-a-spy I want to know whos the person, whos the person who gave the whistleblower the information? Because thats close to a spy, he continued. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now. <cite>Reg posted [p:927983274] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote>Reg posted...</cite> <quote>also speaking of "what the fuck NYT" https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1177175443335766016 Original tweet that sparked this is now deleted and walked back with https://twitter.com/stavernise/status/1177214841406316544 but you get the point</quote> That's not even walking it back, it's just outright lying about what she said in the first place. "It wasn't about swing voters" as if the tweet didn't specifically say "I talked to six swing voters."</quote> Yeah, true. I couldn't actually see the original tweet so I tried to give benefit of the doubt that was obviously not deserved (or the thread I linked wouldn't have been a thing in the first place) Also last 'what the fuck NYT' from me today I swear: https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-09-26/trump-at-private-breakfast-who-gave-the-whistle-blower-the-information-because-thats-almost-a-spy <quote>I want to know whos the person, whos the person who gave the whistleblower the information? Because thats close to a spy, he continued. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 09/26/19 4:12:34 PM #193:	Reg posted... Yeah, true. I couldn't actually see the original tweet so I tried to give benefit of the doubt that was obviously not deserved (or the thread I linked wouldn't have been a thing in the first place) Here's the tweet: https://twitter.com/nadinevdVelde/status/1177235858790875136 This specific reporter has apparently done this before, by writing an article about a woman downplaying Trump's reactions to the Charlottesville stuff, and writing it as a "swing voter" who had been driven to Trump and was being further driven to Trump by the narrative. Turns out said "swing voter" was a GOP convention delegate. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:927983372] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Reg posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, true. I couldn't actually see the original tweet so I tried to give benefit of the doubt that was obviously not deserved (or the thread I linked wouldn't have been a thing in the first place)</quote> Here's the tweet: https://twitter.com/nadinevdVelde/status/1177235858790875136 This specific reporter has apparently done this before, by writing an article about a woman downplaying Trump's reactions to the Charlottesville stuff, and writing it as a "swing voter" who had been driven to Trump and was being further driven to Trump by the narrative. Turns out said "swing voter" was a GOP convention delegate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 09/26/19 4:34:42 PM #194:	Reg posted... Also last 'what the fuck NYT' from me today I swear: https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-09-26/trump-at-private-breakfast-who-gave-the-whistle-blower-the-information-because-thats-almost-a-spy I want to know whos the person, whos the person who gave the whistleblower the information? Because thats close to a spy, he continued. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now. The kicker is that the NYT also publishes this quote in their story about the whistleblower, right after the part where they publish a quote from a NYT editor saying that it's okay for the NYT to publish this info. --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:927984398] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Reg posted... </cite> <quote> Also last 'what the fuck NYT' from me today I swear: https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-09-26/trump-at-private-breakfast-who-gave-the-whistle-blower-the-information-because-thats-almost-a-spy I want to know whos the person, whos the person who gave the whistleblower the information? Because thats close to a spy, he continued. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.</quote> The kicker is that the NYT also publishes this quote in their story about the whistleblower, right after the part where they publish a quote from a NYT editor saying that it's okay for the NYT to publish this info. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/26/19 4:45:29 PM #195:	Another poll with a sharp uptick in support for impeachment (note: the 55/26 one posted earlier asked about support for impeachment conditional on Trump having withheld aid to coerce the Ukrainians, which it seems pretty clearly did happen but which some people definitely arent convinced of yet. This one is just current support.): https://twitter.com/jesselehrich/status/1177314885287448578?s=21 --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927984865] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Another poll with a sharp uptick in support for impeachment (note: the 55/26 one posted earlier asked about support for impeachment conditional on Trump having withheld aid to coerce the Ukrainians, which it seems pretty clearly did happen but which some people definitely arent convinced of yet. This one is just current support.): https://twitter.com/jesselehrich/status/1177314885287448578?s=21</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 09/26/19 6:58:32 PM #196:	https://twitter.com/elainaplott/status/1177288410689671170?s=21 Rudy Giuliani was nearly shouting in my phone call with him. It is impossible that the whistle-blower is a hero and Im not. And I will be the hero! These moronswhen this is over, I will be the hero, he told me. Read this article about an interview with Rudy Its fucking NUTS --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:927990760] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/elainaplott/status/1177288410689671170?s=21 <quote> Rudy Giuliani was nearly shouting in my phone call with him. It is impossible that the whistle-blower is a hero and Im not. And I will be the hero! These moronswhen this is over, I will be the hero, he told me.</quote> Read this article about an interview with Rudy Its fucking NUTS</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/26/19 7:02:25 PM #197:	Rudy is also now tweeting out texts: https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1177346278004539392 --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927990909] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Rudy is also now tweeting out texts: https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1177346278004539392</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 09/26/19 7:11:04 PM #198:	Who has lost their marbles more, Rudy or Donald? --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:927991226] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Who has lost their marbles more, Rudy or Donald?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 09/26/19 7:13:59 PM #199:	lmfao https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1177293833853374464 Guiliani: "It is impossible that the whistle-blower is a hero and I'm not. And I will be the hero! These morons -- when this is over, I will be the hero" hahahahahaklsdhfjdg (Also, "I'm not acting as a lawyer." good to hear that your communications won't be privileged then!) ~~~ Also lol https://twitter.com/AndrewBatesNC/status/1177249257524514817 The Ukrainian prosecutor "whose allegations were at the heart of the dirt-digging effort by Guiliani" says Hunter Biden "did not violate anything." This is the prosecutor who Trump praised. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:927991332] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>lmfao https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1177293833853374464 Guiliani: "It is impossible that the whistle-blower is a hero and I'm not. And I will be the hero! These morons -- when this is over, I will be the hero" hahahahahaklsdhfjdg (Also, "I'm not acting as a lawyer." good to hear that your communications won't be privileged then!) ~~~ Also lol https://twitter.com/AndrewBatesNC/status/1177249257524514817 The Ukrainian prosecutor "whose allegations were at the heart of the dirt-digging effort by Guiliani" says Hunter Biden "did not violate anything." This is the prosecutor who Trump praised.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 09/26/19 7:14:39 PM #200:	oh i was sitting on that post looking around on other stories so i was late but yes that guiliani interview is amazing --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:927991360] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>oh i was sitting on that post looking around on other stories so i was late but yes that guiliani interview is amazing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 09/26/19 7:16:32 PM #201:	I was just on my way to post the "I was not acting as a lawyer" bit. I hope they can legitimately use that. --- ~C~ FD https://imgur.com/dGDfxaw <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:927991440] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>I was just on my way to post the "I was not acting as a lawyer" bit. I hope they can legitimately use that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skullbone 09/26/19 7:19:49 PM #202:	xp1337 posted... lmfao https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1177293833853374464 Guiliani: "It is impossible that the whistle-blower is a hero and I'm not. And I will be the hero! These morons -- when this is over, I will be the hero" hahahahahaklsdhfjdg (Also, "I'm not acting as a lawyer." good to hear that your communications won't be privileged then!) ~~~ Also lol https://twitter.com/AndrewBatesNC/status/1177249257524514817 The Ukrainian prosecutor "whose allegations were at the heart of the dirt-digging effort by Guiliani" says Hunter Biden "did not violate anything." This is the prosecutor who Trump praised. From the same report: Hunter Biden cannot be responsible for violations of the management of Burisma that took place two years before his arrival LOOOL --- skull <cite>skullbone posted [p:927991585] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>xp1337 posted...</cite> <quote>lmfao https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1177293833853374464 Guiliani: "It is impossible that the whistle-blower is a hero and I'm not. And I will be the hero! These morons -- when this is over, I will be the hero" hahahahahaklsdhfjdg (Also, "I'm not acting as a lawyer." good to hear that your communications won't be privileged then!) ~~~ Also lol https://twitter.com/AndrewBatesNC/status/1177249257524514817 The Ukrainian prosecutor "whose allegations were at the heart of the dirt-digging effort by Guiliani" says Hunter Biden "did not violate anything." This is the prosecutor who Trump praised.</quote> From the same report: Hunter Biden cannot be responsible for violations of the management of Burisma that took place two years before his arrival LOOOL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 09/27/19 9:29:05 AM #203:	https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/wall-street-democratic-donors-may-back-trump-if-warren-is-nominated.html I could be getting played, but this makes me feel a lot better about Warren (she was already my #2, I like this). --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:928015417] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/wall-street-democratic-donors-may-back-trump-if-warren-is-nominated.html I could be getting played, but this makes me feel a lot better about Warren (she was already my #2, I like this).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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