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xp1337
09/27/19 7:03:30 PM
#304:


skullbone posted...

Is this topic ever anything other than bad b8?

puns
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HeroDelTiempo17
09/27/19 7:17:56 PM
#305:


This is pretty tinfoil hat but I think the GOP would quickly turn on Trump if not doing so would lose them the Senate. Mitch McConnell is probably already doing the math on how to most efficiently have Republican Senators "betray" Trump but still keep his job as Senate Majority Leader in 2021. Just in case he needs to.

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red sox 777
09/27/19 7:22:55 PM
#306:


The GOP would turn on Trump if it was to their electoral advantage to do so. But if they are in a position where they would lose whether or not they turn on him, it doesn't help them to turn on him. Trump has done a very good job of making it so Republicans feel that if they turn on him, they would lose for sure.

If the GOP turns on Trump now, they look like fools or opportunistic liars for following him this far. Their only route to victory is to insist that Trump is innocent.
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xp1337
09/27/19 7:23:34 PM
#307:


Back to news.

CNN is reporting that the White House restricted access to Trump's calls with Putin and the Saudi Crown Prince.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/white-house-restricted-trump-calls-putin-saudi/index.html

The Saudi call had no transcript circulated at all, and officials who normally would have had access to it didn't get it. The call apparently had no especially sensitive material and came during the time the intelligence assessments were implicating the Saudi government in Khashoggi's death.

With Putin we just know "at least one call" had its transcript tightly restricted.

Unknown if either was placed in the ~server~
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Forceful_Dragon
09/27/19 7:27:58 PM
#308:


Meanwhile...

Kurt Volker, Trumps Envoy for Ukraine, Resigns



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LordoftheMorons
09/27/19 8:45:13 PM
#309:


https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1177745072668004353

Breaking: 3 sources tell WaPo Trump told Russians day after he filed Comey he wasnt concerned about Moscows interference in U.S. election

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LordoftheMorons
09/27/19 9:03:13 PM
#310:


To clarify: not concerned as in he thought that Russia interfering would be fine
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HeroDelTiempo17
09/27/19 9:27:08 PM
#311:


President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscows interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election because the United States did the same in other countries, an assertion that prompted alarmed White House officials to limit access to the remarks to an unusually small number of people, according to three former officials with knowledge of the matter.


Absolutely wild

So many officials willing to leak now, too.

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Jakyl25
09/27/19 9:39:38 PM
#312:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1177745072668004353

Breaking: 3 sources tell WaPo Trump told Russians day after he filed Comey he wasnt concerned about Moscows interference in U.S. election


Its all falling apart
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Jakyl25
09/27/19 9:40:23 PM
#313:


Is that the meeting where they didnt allow anyone access except Russian press?
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LordoftheMorons
09/27/19 9:44:44 PM
#314:


I think so?

The one with the Sergeys
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LordoftheMorons
09/27/19 9:46:43 PM
#315:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Meanwhile...

Kurt Volker, Trumps Envoy for Ukraine, Resigns



Cool fact: this story was broken by the ASU student paper:
https://twitter.com/statepress/status/1177707100132110336?s=21
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xp1337
09/27/19 11:57:15 PM
#316:


Jakyl25 posted...
Is that the meeting where they didnt allow anyone access except Russian press?

Yes. It's also the same meeting where he told the Russians about highly classified intelligence and jeopardized a source that we received from Israel as part of him bragging to them.
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Jakyl25
09/28/19 12:14:16 AM
#317:


xp1337 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Is that the meeting where they didnt allow anyone access except Russian press?

Yes. It's also the same meeting where he told the Russians about highly classified intelligence and jeopardized a source that we received from Israel as part of him bragging to them.


Oh right! I remember that!
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Forceful_Dragon
09/28/19 1:46:01 AM
#318:


Matt Cartwright (D-PA) is the subject of am ethics complaint. It looks like a law firm that he has a financial interest in stands to benefit a lot from bills that he has sponsored. The bill relates to the mandatory minimum liability insurance for commercial truck drivers which would considerably boost insurance payoffs. Incidentally his firm specializes in commercial truck accident lawsuits.

Seems pretty compelling.

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xp1337
09/28/19 2:03:59 AM
#319:


That ethics complaint should be investigated and if it finds it to be true he should go. (Though unless he's pressured into resigning I'd doubt that's the outcome, unfortunately.)
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red13n
09/28/19 2:45:54 AM
#320:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Matt Cartwright (D-PA) is the subject of am ethics complaint. It looks like a law firm that he has a financial interest in stands to benefit a lot from bills that he has sponsored. The bill relates to the mandatory minimum liability insurance for commercial truck drivers which would considerably boost insurance payoffs. Incidentally his firm specializes in commercial truck accident lawsuits.

Seems pretty compelling.


Clearly hes just knowledgeable about accidents involving commercial trucks so he knows what to sponsor.
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Jakyl25
09/28/19 2:50:32 AM
#321:


This is absolutely a conflict of interest that should lead someone to removal from office

But its still hilarious that legislating based on corporate donor desires isnt considered that.
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Corrik7
09/28/19 8:58:25 AM
#322:


red sox 777 posted...
Example: Suppose Trump ordered the arrest of every single employee of American intelligence agencies on suspicion of treason and hired the KGB to carry out the order. Right now, that would give the GOP some pause I think. I'm not sure it would necessarily do so in the future.
What the literal fuck

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Reg
09/28/19 9:19:50 AM
#323:


Jakyl25 posted...
This is absolutely a conflict of interest that should lead someone to removal from office

But its still hilarious that legislating based on corporate donor desires isnt considered that.

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Jakyl25
09/28/19 1:41:42 PM
#324:


https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1177919923885969408?s=21

Can you imagine if these Do Nothing Democrat Savages, people like Nadler, Schiff, AOC Plus 3, and many more, had a Republican Party who would have done to Obama what the Do Nothings are doing to me. Oh well, maybe next time!


His nicknames and metaphors have gotten to the point where Democrats are somehow do nothing savages.

Doesnt sound very savage!
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ChaosTonyV4
09/28/19 1:54:55 PM
#325:


What does that even mean?
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Jakyl25
09/28/19 2:00:01 PM
#326:


Its a lot of words to say imagine if Republicans had impeached Obama
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Jakyl25
09/28/19 2:02:02 PM
#327:


Although AOC plus 3 is weird because I thought he was trying to push the narrative that Omar is the leader
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LordoftheMorons
09/28/19 2:37:25 PM
#328:


Thread about readouts and why abusing the classification system is damaging to the US:

https://twitter.com/sam_vinograd/status/1177964814414602242?s=21

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LordoftheMorons
09/28/19 2:48:53 PM
#329:


Does Graham really think people are dumb enough to buy this hearsay argument when pretty much everything in the whistleblower complaint has been verified by the White House??

https://twitter.com/lindseygrahamsc/status/1177941037895036928?s=21

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xp1337
09/28/19 2:51:27 PM
#330:


Yeah, if that's really the defense they wanted to push (and it's a weak one) they should have released the whistleblower complaint but not the call memo. As is, we have the call memo that confirms the complaint lol.
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Grimlyn
09/28/19 2:53:09 PM
#331:


again all people ever need to do in response to Linsdey is repost all the footage of his blatant flip-flops, not just on Bill Clinton impeachment but on this thoughts of Trump before/after the primarys
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Leafeon13N
09/28/19 4:30:16 PM
#332:


Grimlyn posted...
again all people ever need to do in response to Linsdey is repost all the footage of his blatant flip-flops, not just on Bill Clinton impeachment but on this thoughts of Trump before/after the primarys


Trump himself has been a walking flip flop. I'm not sure it even matters in this culture we have created.
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Corrik7
09/28/19 4:34:38 PM
#333:


Leafeon13N posted...
Trump himself has been a walking flip flop. I'm not sure it even matters in this culture we have created.
Biden flip flopped also regarding impeachment.

That said, Cuomo said it is a big waste of time and pandering to leftists.

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ChaosTonyV4
09/28/19 5:05:47 PM
#334:


Corrik7 posted...
Leafeon13N posted...
Trump himself has been a walking flip flop. I'm not sure it even matters in this culture we have created.
Biden flip flopped also regarding impeachment.

That said, Cuomo said it is a big waste of time and pandering to leftists.


You guys really have to learn what a leftist is some day.
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Corrik7
09/28/19 5:13:29 PM
#335:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
You guys really have to learn what a leftist is some day.
Why you telling me and not the person who said it.

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ChaosTonyV4
09/28/19 9:09:17 PM
#336:


Corrik7 posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
You guys really have to learn what a leftist is some day.
Why you telling me and not the person who said it.


I mean you didnt disagree, why else are you telling us what Cuomo (Assuming they CNN anchor but Im not sure who) said?

In other news: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463525-state-dept-ramps-up-probe-into-clinton-email-server

Yep.

But her emails in 2019.
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red sox 777
09/28/19 9:54:13 PM
#337:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
You guys really have to learn what a leftist is some day.
Why you telling me and not the person who said it.


I mean you didnt disagree, why else are you telling us what Cuomo (Assuming they CNN anchor but Im not sure who) said?

In other news: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463525-state-dept-ramps-up-probe-into-clinton-email-server

Yep.

But her emails in 2019.


Bout time! Good to see Hillary is finally being investigated.
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Shaduln
09/28/19 9:56:23 PM
#338:


Distract distract distract
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Corrik7
09/28/19 10:29:41 PM
#339:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I mean you didnt disagree, why else are you telling us what Cuomo (Assuming they CNN anchor but Im not sure who) said?
I said what a democratic governor said.

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StealThisSheen
09/28/19 10:42:45 PM
#340:


Cuomo also changed his stance to supporting impeachment even quicker than Tulsi did
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Corrik7
09/29/19 5:34:50 AM
#341:


StealThisSheen posted...
Cuomo also changed his stance to supporting impeachment even quicker than Tulsi did
He started with impeachment, flipped to it is pointless and caving to leftist democrats, and then clarified his statements when called out on it.

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LordoftheMorons
09/29/19 1:41:40 PM
#342:


Tapper shutting down Jim Jordan:

https://twitter.com/mattklewis/status/1178352669766901760?s=21

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LordoftheMorons
09/29/19 1:59:42 PM
#343:


oh ya go my De Niro:

https://twitter.com/jemelehill/status/1178342306811990016?s=21

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Grimlyn
09/29/19 2:30:30 PM
#344:


LordoftheMorons posted...
oh ya go my De Niro:

https://twitter.com/jemelehill/status/1178342306811990016?s=21

Gotta love the dumbo twitter right complaining about listening to old actors' political opinions... when the president they love is Trump
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LordoftheMorons
09/29/19 7:11:23 PM
#345:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1178442759499370496

He's really melting down

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xp1337
09/29/19 7:25:14 PM
#346:


lol every time i see that "i deserve to meet my accuser" thing in a completely inappropriate manner i always think back to this episode of house where house tries to argue his patient can't have his dnr enforced because it would deny him (house) the right to face his accuser (house is accused of assault for intervening against the dnr to save his life)

i don't know why i felt the need to share this

i watched a lot of house in the past
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LordoftheMorons
09/29/19 8:39:12 PM
#347:


The whistleblower is now under federal protection:
https://twitter.com/BrendanNyhan/status/1178460033446764545

Honestly the fact that he or she has to be protected is alone enough to impeach Trump!

Also, absolutely pathetic spin attempt by Kevin McCarthy:
https://twitter.com/stevenportnoy/status/1178462826018545665

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LordoftheMorons
09/29/19 9:08:52 PM
#348:


Update: the whistleblower's lawyer says that 60 minutes misinterpreted their letter, and the whistleblower is not actually under federal protection. The letter does, however, mention "serious concerns for our clients personal safety."

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Jakyl25
09/29/19 9:24:37 PM
#349:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1178442759499370496

He's really melting down


What did Schiff say? I assume literally quoting Trump?
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LordoftheMorons
09/29/19 9:32:33 PM
#350:


Schiff, in his words, parodied the content of the transcript:

https://www.newsweek.com/adam-schiff-parody-donald-trump-congressional-hearing-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-call-1461579

It was a basically accurate summary of the obvious implication of the transcript, but wasnt actually quoting what was directly said.

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Jakyl25
09/29/19 9:39:38 PM
#351:


Im not sure parody is the right word

Its more like just straight up paraphrasing
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LordoftheMorons
09/29/19 9:40:26 PM
#352:


Yeah, hes basically just making the subtext text

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Jakyl25
09/29/19 9:41:06 PM
#353:


Very sinister!
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