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Full Throttle
12/21/18 12:00:11 AM
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The Trump administration will be forcing MILLIONS of Americans who get food stamps to get JOBS if they want the benefits to continue!!

That was an idea Congress nixed leaving it out of a 5 year Farm Bill that Trump signed into law.

The 400 billion law reauthorized agriculture and conservation programs and left the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program that serves 44 million untouched.

He announced this signing at a ceremony that he wants Americans to go from "dependence to independence" and from "welfare to gainful employment, strengthening families and uplifting communities"

SNAP is the largest single expense amounting to more than 70 billion as the USDA proposed a rule that would limit how state governments grant work exemptions to adults.

18-49 year olds without kids are required to work 20 hours a week to maintain these benefits as the house bill would have raised the age of receiptients subject to work requirements from 49 to 59 and required parents with children older than 5 to participate in job training.

It also limits circumstances where families that quality for other poverty programs can automatically be eligible for SNAP and since these didn't make it to the farm bill, the Trump administration went for a regulatory approach in scaling back the program as Texas Repubilcan, Michael Conaway was the champion of this tightening

Senator Debbie Stabenow blasted the decision to restrict the program who said "This regulation blatantly ignores the bipartisan farm bill that the president is signing today an disregards over 20 years of history giving states flexibility to request waivers based on local job conditions. I expect the rule will face significant opposition and legal challenges"

Incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi also blasted this who said is the definition of cruelty and tweeted government should help hungry americans and not take away food.

Florida Republican Ted Yoho said he is a former SNAP recipient and said "Work is empowering" and Republican Scott DesJarlais said the vast majority of americans said people should work if they want food stamps in the "growing economy"

Only states that have an unemployment of 7% or higher will get waivers as conservatives celebrated the decision but is met with criticism that said will leave vulnerable families hungry.

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Kevman510
12/21/18 12:18:10 AM
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This is a good idea
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_AdjI_
12/21/18 12:27:14 AM
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Did he also sign a bill to ensure that jobs exist for everyone currently on food stamps?
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winter_rising
12/21/18 12:37:30 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
The Trump administration will be forcing MILLIONS of Americans who get food stamps to get JOBS if they want the benefits to continue!!

That was an idea Congress nixed leaving it out of a 5 year Farm Bill that Trump signed into law.

The 400 billion law reauthorized agriculture and conservation programs and left the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program that serves 44 million untouched.

He announced this signing at a ceremony that he wants Americans to go from "dependence to independence" and from "welfare to gainful employment, strengthening families and uplifting communities"

SNAP is the largest single expense amounting to more than 70 billion as the USDA proposed a rule that would limit how state governments grant work exemptions to adults.

18-49 year olds without kids are required to work 20 hours a week to maintain these benefits as the house bill would have raised the age of receiptients subject to work requirements from 49 to 59 and required parents with children older than 5 to participate in job training.

It also limits circumstances where families that quality for other poverty programs can automatically be eligible for SNAP and since these didn't make it to the farm bill, the Trump administration went for a regulatory approach in scaling back the program as Texas Repubilcan, Michael Conaway was the champion of this tightening

Senator Debbie Stabenow blasted the decision to restrict the program who said "This regulation blatantly ignores the bipartisan farm bill that the president is signing today an disregards over 20 years of history giving states flexibility to request waivers based on local job conditions. I expect the rule will face significant opposition and legal challenges"

Incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi also blasted this who said is the definition of cruelty and tweeted government should help hungry americans and not take away food.

Florida Republican Ted Yoho said he is a former SNAP recipient and said "Work is empowering" and Republican Scott DesJarlais said the vast majority of americans said people should work if they want food stamps in the "growing economy"

Only states that have an unemployment of 7% or higher will get waivers as conservatives celebrated the decision but is met with criticism that said will leave vulnerable families hungry.

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People with Disabilities, do not apply. You can't make some one work who has say, Cerebral Palsy to work at all. You might want to RE-State all your facts.
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12/21/18 12:48:49 AM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Did he also sign a bill to ensure that jobs exist for everyone currently on food stamps?

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streamofthesky
12/21/18 12:58:37 AM
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This is stupid, and a terrible idea

7% is a really odd cutoff to choose, too

And sure at this very moment the unemployment rate is low, but what happens when that changes with another recession?

This can't actually take effect any time soon, right? It's GOT to be subject to some serious legal challenges before then... In any case.... "Merry Christmas, America" - Trump
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RoboXgp89
12/21/18 4:11:28 AM
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i dunno i get tired of seeing hobo's begging for food, if they like standing around that much they could have a job

and also lets say they can't find jobs, the jobs that are always hiring are retail and fast food, so it's not like they can't get food

in my state the rich people basically pay the poor to live here because everything is so expensive
I don't see any reason why someone would starve while living in another state where rent is like a weeks worth of work
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AllstarSniper32
12/21/18 4:14:50 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
This is stupid, and a terrible idea

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Kylo_Ren_
12/21/18 5:01:16 AM
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Junkies don't deserve shit and those are the ones you see at the humanitarian sites.

I rather them be drug tested instead.
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Keebs05
12/21/18 5:15:06 AM
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Out of all the public assistance programs that the government has, this one seems like it's the least deserving of a work-hour requirement.
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Kyuubi4269
12/21/18 5:17:19 AM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
in my state the rich people basically pay the poor to live here because everything is so expensive
I don't see any reason why someone would starve while living in another state where rent is like a weeks worth of work

You know it's expensive because of the rich forcibly gentrifying the area, right? People shouldn't have no move country-sized state because the rich are shoo-ing them.
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12/21/18 5:43:23 AM
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Kylo_Ren_ posted...
Junkies don't deserve shit and those are the ones you see at the humanitarian sites.

I rather them be drug tested instead.

It would be way more expensive to test everyone on SNAP than to let the few junkies get it
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Lokarin
12/21/18 5:53:40 AM
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Trump execute 44 million Americans... k
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RoboXgp89
12/21/18 6:05:33 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
RoboXgp89 posted...
in my state the rich people basically pay the poor to live here because everything is so expensive
I don't see any reason why someone would starve while living in another state where rent is like a weeks worth of work

You know it's expensive because of the rich forcibly gentrifying the area, right? People shouldn't have no move country-sized state because the rich are shoo-ing them.


the rich are moving in, everyone else is moving out it makes having a normal job here a pain in the ass, but all raising min wage does is contribute to inflation

most poor people are TRYING to work 50-60 hours a week not 20
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Noop_Noop
12/21/18 7:56:10 AM
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In denver you cant go 5 blocks before seeing at least 1 vagrant and at least 20 help wanted signs. Fuck, its not at all uncommon for them to beg outside a building next to a sign hanging in the window or posted on the lawn. Weve got more jobs than people here,and a lot of places are so desperate they will literally hire anyone.

They make more money off of suckers and get more free shit when they stand on the corner than they would working, so why would they work? Its a perfect example of why socialism is dumb, and how you are only enabling self destrucive behavior by giving these fuckers free shit for no work.
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teddy241
12/21/18 8:34:20 AM
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Some people have disabilities that dont fall under the category as official disabilities.

My dads 57 years old with diabetes. He takes 5 pills a day for various issues (depression/anxiety, diabetes, blood pressure, cholesterol, etc)

He cant do most jobs becsuse hes not physically/mentally capable or stable. So take the age and health issues into considerstion and theres not much work out there for a person like that.

He doesnt get food stamps because his wife takes care of him but without her hed probably be dead.
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SmokeMassTree
12/21/18 8:51:26 AM
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Good. Even if we cut it in half we can pay for the wall and make it electric for a lifetime
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12/21/18 8:56:02 AM
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AllstarSniper32 posted...
streamofthesky posted...
This is stupid, and a terrible idea
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spiffyone
12/21/18 9:02:13 AM
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Theres already work requirements in place for able bodied adults of that age range without young children. The only real changes are raising the age limit on those able bodied adults, increasing the age limit on their children to qualify for waivers from working, and limiting the ability for states to set their own requirements regarding waivers within the former federal guidelines (as those guidelines would change).

BTW, it always strikes me as odd that folks dont seem to know that theres been work requirements for SNAP for years now. But we are dealing with the party of disinformation here, so....
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kangolcone
12/21/18 9:07:25 AM
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Noop_Noop posted...
In denver you cant go 5 blocks before seeing at least 1 vagrant and at least 20 help wanted signs. Fuck, its not at all uncommon for them to beg outside a building next to a sign hanging in the window or posted on the lawn. Weve got more jobs than people here,and a lot of places are so desperate they will literally hire anyone.

They make more money off of suckers and get more free shit when they stand on the corner than they would working, so why would they work? Its a perfect example of why socialism is dumb, and how you are only enabling self destrucive behavior by giving these fuckers free shit for no work.


How many have untreated severe mental health issues?
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wwinterj25
12/21/18 9:09:30 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
18-49 year olds without kids are required to work 20 hours a week to maintain these benefits as the house bill would have raised the age of receiptients subject to work requirements from 49 to 59 and required parents with children older than 5 to participate in job training.


I've always found this to be more counter productive than not as why would employers employ people if they can get "free labour"? This would only work if after a few months or even less the employer actually gives folk a paid job not "huur durr you get your benefits so you are getting paid to do this".
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Noop_Noop
12/21/18 10:17:10 AM
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kangolcone posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
In denver you cant go 5 blocks before seeing at least 1 vagrant and at least 20 help wanted signs. Fuck, its not at all uncommon for them to beg outside a building next to a sign hanging in the window or posted on the lawn. Weve got more jobs than people here,and a lot of places are so desperate they will literally hire anyone.

They make more money off of suckers and get more free shit when they stand on the corner than they would working, so why would they work? Its a perfect example of why socialism is dumb, and how you are only enabling self destrucive behavior by giving these fuckers free shit for no work.


How many have untreated severe mental health issues?


I really dont give a fuck how bad they chose to fuck their lives up, so thats gonna be a big fucking shrug from me.
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LinkPizza
12/21/18 10:21:43 AM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
I don't see any reason why someone would starve while living in another state where rent is like a weeks worth of work

Those places where rent in lower also pays less. If the area has a lower cost of living, then the amount they make would be less. For example, most of my family could live awesome lives where I am if they got paid the same amount. But the jobs they have up there would pay much less here because the cost of living is much lower...
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12/21/18 10:46:55 AM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Did he also sign a bill to ensure that jobs exist for everyone currently on food stamps?

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kangolcone
12/21/18 11:03:53 AM
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Noop_Noop posted...
kangolcone posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
In denver you cant go 5 blocks before seeing at least 1 vagrant and at least 20 help wanted signs. Fuck, its not at all uncommon for them to beg outside a building next to a sign hanging in the window or posted on the lawn. Weve got more jobs than people here,and a lot of places are so desperate they will literally hire anyone.

They make more money off of suckers and get more free shit when they stand on the corner than they would working, so why would they work? Its a perfect example of why socialism is dumb, and how you are only enabling self destrucive behavior by giving these fuckers free shit for no work.


How many have untreated severe mental health issues?


I really dont give a fuck how bad they chose to fuck their lives up, so thats gonna be a big fucking shrug from me.


Nice to know that schizophrenia is a choice now?
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Lokarin
12/21/18 11:08:26 AM
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fun fact: The largest drain on welfare and support resources are religious churches and similar institutions. They can actually charge stuff like pancake breakfasts to the government.
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_AdjI_
12/21/18 11:13:41 AM
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Noop_Noop posted...
kangolcone posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
In denver you cant go 5 blocks before seeing at least 1 vagrant and at least 20 help wanted signs. Fuck, its not at all uncommon for them to beg outside a building next to a sign hanging in the window or posted on the lawn. Weve got more jobs than people here,and a lot of places are so desperate they will literally hire anyone.

They make more money off of suckers and get more free shit when they stand on the corner than they would working, so why would they work? Its a perfect example of why socialism is dumb, and how you are only enabling self destrucive behavior by giving these fuckers free shit for no work.


How many have untreated severe mental health issues?


I really dont give a fuck how bad they chose to fuck their lives up, so thats gonna be a big fucking shrug from me.


Do you seriously believe that mental health issues are self-inflicted? Because of all the clueless, ignorant things you've said about the world, that might just be the most idiotic.
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streamofthesky
12/21/18 11:22:23 AM
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Lokarin posted...
fun fact: The largest drain on welfare and support resources are religious churches and similar institutions. They can actually charge stuff like pancake breakfasts to the government.

So you're saying.... whenever Republicans claim that it's ok to cut government funding to safety net programs because religious charity groups* will take care of people anyway, they're full of shit b/c in the end it's still the government paying for it? Fascinating.

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Troll_Police_
12/21/18 11:41:53 AM
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kangolcone posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
kangolcone posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
In denver you cant go 5 blocks before seeing at least 1 vagrant and at least 20 help wanted signs. Fuck, its not at all uncommon for them to beg outside a building next to a sign hanging in the window or posted on the lawn. Weve got more jobs than people here,and a lot of places are so desperate they will literally hire anyone.

They make more money off of suckers and get more free shit when they stand on the corner than they would working, so why would they work? Its a perfect example of why socialism is dumb, and how you are only enabling self destrucive behavior by giving these fuckers free shit for no work.


How many have untreated severe mental health issues?


I really dont give a fuck how bad they chose to fuck their lives up, so thats gonna be a big fucking shrug from me.


Nice to know that schizophrenia is a choice now?


bro, when you were in school, how many fingers were you taught a person has on each hand.
5 right?

but you do know that there are people born with fewer and sometimes even more right?

but youre taught 5.

why is that do you think? could it be because anything other than 5 isnt the norm, and is a statistical outlier?

if you honestly think the majority of bums out there suffer from some sort of debilitating mental condition youre an idiot.

ive lived on the streets. ive spent time with these people. I know their fucking attitudes and I'll tell you right now their attitudes are shit. the vast majority of them are able bodied people who realized they can get by without working.

are there statistical outliers? sure. but you arent taught that people have 0-6 fingers on each hand in school. youre taught 5 because 5 covers the majority of all humans.

im all for taking care of the mentally disabled. that and children are about the only people i want any sort of government funding to go to. but like i said, if you honestly believe that is anything other than a tiny minority of homeless you are just dumb. thats all.
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Troll_Police_
12/21/18 11:54:25 AM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
kangolcone posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
In denver you cant go 5 blocks before seeing at least 1 vagrant and at least 20 help wanted signs. Fuck, its not at all uncommon for them to beg outside a building next to a sign hanging in the window or posted on the lawn. Weve got more jobs than people here,and a lot of places are so desperate they will literally hire anyone.

They make more money off of suckers and get more free shit when they stand on the corner than they would working, so why would they work? Its a perfect example of why socialism is dumb, and how you are only enabling self destrucive behavior by giving these fuckers free shit for no work.


How many have untreated severe mental health issues?


I really dont give a fuck how bad they chose to fuck their lives up, so thats gonna be a big fucking shrug from me.


Do you seriously believe that mental health issues are self-inflicted? Because of all the clueless, ignorant things you've said about the world, that might just be the most idiotic.


oh plenty are and plenty arent. i never used the word all for a reason.

addiction is considered a mental health issue. is it self inflicted? sure as fuck is, and an overwhelming number of the homeless suffer from this self inflicted illness.

if youre depressed over the fact that youve made shit of your life and let yourself start down that spiral thats self inflicted too.

eating disorders? yep. you self inflicted that one too.

can someone be born with a mental disorder? absolutely. my sister for example suffers from severe schizophrenia, and presents with from pretty horrific bouts of psychosis. we grew up lower class. any potders from denver can tell you that back in the 80s and 90s east colfax was a shit neighborhood. i grew up half a block away from what people used to refer to as whore alley. i stepped on empty vials when i walked to school every morning. guess what though? my sister is actually doing quite well for herself.

she didnt get lucky. she didnt land some huge inheritance. she doesnt live off of public assistance. she just works hard. she does what is necessary to contain herself when she is having a particularly hard time, and she does what is necessary to sustain herself when she is feeling lucid.

am i saying every person with schizophrenia or any other disorder is capable of the same? fuck no. there is a very VERY small minority of people out there who actually cannot get by on their own. I've always been in favor of helping those people. i am however not in favor of people who use whatever disadvantage they can as an excuse to avoid contributing their share.

i know its easy to just say nothing is any individuals fault and just pass the buck off onto society as a whole, but some people still actually care about and believe in personal responsibility.
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_AdjI_
12/21/18 12:01:38 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
if you honestly believe that is anything other than a tiny minority of homeless you are just dumb.


Estimated incidence for mental illnesses in the general population tend to be in the 20% range, and that's just the ones that are bad enough to get a concrete diagnosis instead of simply needing help with more vague "mental health problems." 20% is already more than can be considered a "tiny minority," even without considering the fact that that number is very obviously going to be higher in a population that's already demonstrating an inability to function at a normal level (to say nothing of not being able to get diagnoses because you have to be rich to get any sort of health care in the US). Mental illness goes beyond the ones that are rocking back and forth while grunting, you know.

Troll_Police_ posted...
I'll tell you right now their attitudes are s***. the vast majority of them are able bodied people who realized they can get by without working.


Is that what you observed yourself by watching them work comfortably and successfully for a time and then decide not to, or is that what they told you? Because most people - especially guys - are going to be far more comfortable boasting about laziness than attributing their reluctance to work to something like social anxiety or depression, and that means you can't take boast at face value. Even if it is "just laziness," there's an entire class of psychopathology called "disorders of diminished motivation" that identifies "just laziness" as a symptom of multiple definite mental disorders. The term "avolition" exists for a reason, you know.

Troll_Police_ posted...
bro, when you were in school, how many fingers were you taught a person has on each hand.
5 right?

but you do know that there are people born with fewer and sometimes even more right?

but youre taught 5.

why is that do you think? could it be because anything other than 5 isnt the norm, and is a statistical outlier?


Actually, I'm pretty sure that the only time I was ever taught anything in school about the number of fingers people have, it was talking about polydactyly in high school biology. So even your poorly-chosen analogy is wrong. How embarrassing.
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Oops_All_Berrys
12/21/18 12:02:55 PM
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Fuck the poor
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_AdjI_
12/21/18 12:04:10 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
eating disorders? yep. you self inflicted that one too.


The rest of the post is also staggeringly ignorant, but I'm going to single this one out because I'd absolutely love to hear you try to explain this.
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papercup
12/21/18 12:14:33 PM
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In principle it's not a terrible idea. But in practice, it's going to be a disaster.
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JoeDangIt
12/21/18 12:45:59 PM
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Sounds like it's just a way to get more cheap labor, seriously, if you have a job you shouldn't need food stamps.
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Lokarin
12/21/18 12:48:37 PM
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JoeDangIt posted...
Sounds like it's just a way to get more cheap labor, seriously, if you have a job you shouldn't need food stamps.


If that were true people wouldn't need to work 3 jobs
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12/21/18 12:51:26 PM
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Lokarin posted...
JoeDangIt posted...
Sounds like it's just a way to get more cheap labor, seriously, if you have a job you shouldn't need food stamps.


If that were true people wouldn't need to work 3 jobs

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_AdjI_
12/21/18 1:00:41 PM
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papercup posted...
In principle it's not a terrible idea. But in practice, it's going to be a disaster.


I mean, it'd be fine if it also addressed the root causes of unemployment, thereby ensuring that everyone who needs food stamps also has access to a qualifying job. That'd be great, even. As it stands, though, this is more likely to cause a rise in crime as people who can't find work resort to stealing in order to eat.
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LinkPizza
12/21/18 1:27:10 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
papercup posted...
In principle it's not a terrible idea. But in practice, it's going to be a disaster.


I mean, it'd be fine if it also addressed the root causes of unemployment, thereby ensuring that everyone who needs food stamps also has access to a qualifying job. That'd be great, even. As it stands, though, this is more likely to cause a rise in crime as people who can't find work resort to stealing in order to eat.

I feel that might happen. For many reasons.
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Oops_All_Berrys
12/21/18 1:33:51 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
papercup posted...
In principle it's not a terrible idea. But in practice, it's going to be a disaster.


I mean, it'd be fine if it also addressed the root causes of unemployment, thereby ensuring that everyone who needs food stamps also has access to a qualifying job. That'd be great, even. As it stands, though, this is more likely to cause a rise in crime as people who can't find work resort to stealing in order to eat.

Well we gotta compensate for relaxing drug laws to keep people in prison
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_AdjI_
12/21/18 1:35:55 PM
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
papercup posted...
In principle it's not a terrible idea. But in practice, it's going to be a disaster.


I mean, it'd be fine if it also addressed the root causes of unemployment, thereby ensuring that everyone who needs food stamps also has access to a qualifying job. That'd be great, even. As it stands, though, this is more likely to cause a rise in crime as people who can't find work resort to stealing in order to eat.

Well we gotta compensate for relaxing drug laws to keep people in prison


You're not wrong, which is kind of sad.
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GastroFan
12/21/18 1:40:59 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Did he also sign a bill to ensure that jobs exist for everyone currently on food stamps?


This is what I'd like to see also, a bill that guarantees everyone on food stamps a job but it won't happen. Besides what about people who already have a job but are still getting food stamps because they don't earn enough? There are many people in that situation as well.
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SunWuKung420
12/21/18 3:48:21 PM
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He took our jobs.
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Bulbasaur
12/21/18 8:06:30 PM
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like a large portion of my town is on food stamps, and it is incredibly hard to find a job here, or the few towns around here.

all this is going to do is take food away from people already struggling as it is.
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kangolcone
12/21/18 8:21:27 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
kangolcone posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
kangolcone posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
In denver you cant go 5 blocks before seeing at least 1 vagrant and at least 20 help wanted signs. Fuck, its not at all uncommon for them to beg outside a building next to a sign hanging in the window or posted on the lawn. Weve got more jobs than people here,and a lot of places are so desperate they will literally hire anyone.

They make more money off of suckers and get more free shit when they stand on the corner than they would working, so why would they work? Its a perfect example of why socialism is dumb, and how you are only enabling self destrucive behavior by giving these fuckers free shit for no work.


How many have untreated severe mental health issues?


I really dont give a fuck how bad they chose to fuck their lives up, so thats gonna be a big fucking shrug from me.


Nice to know that schizophrenia is a choice now?


bro, when you were in school, how many fingers were you taught a person has on each hand.
5 right?

but you do know that there are people born with fewer and sometimes even more right?

but youre taught 5.

why is that do you think? could it be because anything other than 5 isnt the norm, and is a statistical outlier?

if you honestly think the majority of bums out there suffer from some sort of debilitating mental condition youre an idiot.

ive lived on the streets. ive spent time with these people. I know their fucking attitudes and I'll tell you right now their attitudes are shit. the vast majority of them are able bodied people who realized they can get by without working.

are there statistical outliers? sure. but you arent taught that people have 0-6 fingers on each hand in school. youre taught 5 because 5 covers the majority of all humans.

im all for taking care of the mentally disabled. that and children are about the only people i want any sort of government funding to go to. but like i said, if you honestly believe that is anything other than a tiny minority of homeless you are just dumb. thats all.


Mental health issues impact the homeless community at a rate which far exceeds that of the general population. But the insults definitely added to the strength of your argument.
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Zeus
12/24/18 2:03:02 AM
#46:


_AdjI_ posted...
Did he also sign a bill to ensure that jobs exist for everyone currently on food stamps?


He can get them government jobs.
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captpackrat
12/24/18 11:17:51 AM
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And what's going to happen in the near future when automation kills millions of jobs? When taxi & truck drivers are no longer needed, when GPS-guided tractors and drones eliminate the need for farmers, when self-driving cars cause mass layoffs of police & highway patrol, when kiosks and self-checkout lanes replace people at fast food restaurants and grocery stores?
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LinkPizza
12/24/18 11:22:45 AM
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captpackrat posted...
And what's going to happen in the near future when automation kills millions of jobs? When taxi & truck drivers are no longer needed, when GPS-guided tractors and drones eliminate the need for farmers, when self-driving cars cause mass layoffs of police & highway patrol, when kiosks and self-checkout lanes replace people at fast food restaurants and grocery stores?

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Revelation34
12/24/18 11:57:30 AM
#49:


kangolcone posted...
How many have untreated severe mental health issues?


A lot. A person on food stamps who can't get a job because nobody is hiring wouldn't have health insurance.

Lokarin posted...
They can actually charge stuff like pancake breakfasts to the government.


Time to join a church for the free food.
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BUMPED2002
12/24/18 1:04:24 PM
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The GOP since Reagan has been on this "workfare" agenda since the 1980s so it's nothing new and it's steeped in racism because prior to the passage of the Voting and Civil Rights Acts of the 1960s, non Whites could not participate in Government welfare programs namely FDR's New Deal of the 1930s which gave us (Social Security, Job Insurance (Unemployment), Minimum Wage and FHA low interest government backed home loans which is what allowed working class people to buy family homes beginning in the 1930s and 1940s. Prior to that time, no working class people in America owned their own home because banks would not loan money to working class people regardless of color/race.

When FDR guaranteed the banks would get their money if they loaned money via FHA loans, they were willing to do so knowing the full weight of the federal government would guarantee repayment of any FHA loan that was in default.

Fast forward to the 160s when non Whites began gaining access to government programs and suddenly White folks had an issue with them especially after the "Southern Strategy" in which Richard Nixon began recruiting former racist Southern Democrats into the GOP because they were upset at the passage of the Voting and Civil Rights Acts and that's the GOP we have seen and witness today that emerged from the 1960s.

The Southern Strategy is a Republican Party electoral strategy meant to increase political support among White voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans.
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