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SpiritSephiroth posted...

No not yet, this job has case management and data entry/IT with legal casework. But I'm hoping I can work towards more IT based jobs and then get into programming.

Even so, I'm really impressed by your dedication. I love people who set their mind to a big task and follow through.

I'm trying to do that myself. I have big projects I'm working on, but yeah, it's not trivial to sustain big effort over a long time. Just ask my multi-month video essay project.

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So wait, did you go from knowing nothing to interviewing in 3 months?

If so that's awesome.

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Nobody respected his range, but Hollywood saw him as one thing and forced to stay that thing forever. And before he knew it, his life is tragically cut short, and he never get become the leading man he always dreamed of being.

So depressing:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1075976/


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_HayleyWilliams posted...

lol no one is saying you can choose your sex.

If you say so


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Do like marinades and stuff count as "steak sauce"?

Because if not, easily steak sauce.

If all steak has to be plain from here on out then I'd ditch mustard, even though I know some people love it.

I need my mayo for my keto.

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metallica846 posted...

Joe I hope you realize this most likely ends with a purgatory.

Why would it? I am finally on the right side of these things. I learned my lesson from my moderation and am speaking the truth.

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What_ posted...

So trying to overthrow the government and murder a bunch of Congress people is OK?

You framed it exactly right.

He doesn't get it. He seems to believe that something can still be "very very bad" without being the worst thing ever.

Us enlightened people understand though: If you say something isn't as bad as something else, you are saying it is "OK". And obviously that's insane.

Lathissamus, what you said was ignorant and horribly wrong. Do not say it's OK like you just did.

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_HayleyWilliams posted...

Why do you feel the need to defend terrorists because they aren't the worst terrorists?

Do not defend them by saying they are "not the worst". This is WRONG, they are just as bad.

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DarkChozoGhost posted...

That is not true at all. That's a strawman she's attacking to deflect from previous, less defensible comments she's made.

It seems like she is responding to somebody who was fired for saying "sex is real".

There may be more context missing.

But, I'm going off what is posted in this topic.

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_HayleyWilliams posted...

Holy fuck dude. I'm saying replace "trans/transgender/transexual/etc" with "black" or "white".

"Sex is real, so trans people are delusional and letting them go in places will devalue women and lead to violence".

It's no different than saying black people need to be separate because crime statistics show they commit more violent crime, or citing some study that shows skull shape differences.

What makes gender bigotry more valid than racial bigotry?

I think she's just saying the first part though, the "sex is real" part.

Like yeah, most sentences become awful if you add awful stuff to the end.

The comparison is "race is real, so we cannot let white people pretending to be black into spaces for black people." Now her critics would say you can choose your sex but not your race. And so while yes you shouldn't let white people pretending to be black into black spaces, a person identifying as biologically female is biologically female and belongs in every single space that cis biological females belong.

As I understand it, her stance is "transwomen are real, but they are not identical to ciswomen in every way".

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David1988 posted...

Finally TC has right views, dont say people cant change.

I feel much better being on the right side of the truth now.

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_HayleyWilliams posted...

So if someone said black people weren't real and letting them in the bathroom will just lead to violent crime, we would call that person a crazy bigot.

But somehow hating gay and trans people is considered a valid differing opinion.

She is saying sex is real and her opponents in this context are saying otherwise.

So in this comparison she would be the one saying race is real, and the opponents would be saying you can choose your race.

Since most people don't recognize transracial as a "real thing", using this metaphor doesn't work here.

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There are perfectly logical scientific reasons to tell people what they are and are not allowed to identify as.

I'll let the experts here outline them.

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g0ldie posted...

I get that this is sarcasm, and all, but why were you comparing 9/11 to 1/6 in the first place?

I was not, a pervious topic accurately stated
" Those rioters are no better than the terrorists on 9/11."

In my absolutely and unforgivable ignorance I disagreed. My disagreement was wrong and unacceptable.

I am profoundly grateful to the moderation staff for giving me an appropriate 3 day warning where I woke up from my ignorance.

Of course these 2 groups are equally bad, to say otherwise or to suggest any nuance or distinction between them is obviously to defend one of them. And so it is morally and objectively wrong to make any distinction between them, they are completely equivalent in all ways, as proven by the earlier logic many here helped me discover.

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Middle hope posted...

If you replace trans with black or white, those messages dont make any sense at all.

Well yeah, because the comments would then be about race.

And I don't think people are arguing race isn't real.

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I must first apologize for my former ignorance, due to the very justified 3 day warning I was given for my false view, I was forced to look inward and appreciate my ignorance. And I was indeed ignorant:

I said that the capitol hill rioters were bad people who should be strongly prosecuted but that they were not as bad as the 9/11 terrorists. THIS IS OBJECTIVELY FALSE AND I WAS WRONG TO SAY IT.

It is a basic truth that if 2 things or people are bad then they are equally bad. As others and the moderators pointed out this can be proven quite simply using logic:

Bad thing 1 = bad
Bad thing 2 = bad
If
Bad thing 2 is worse then bad thing 1
that would mean that
Bad thing 1 is better than bad thing 2

And if something is "better" that makes it good, and bad things aren't good. Thus: All bad things must be equally bad QED

As we all know to say anything is better than anything else is to defend it AND DEFENDING BAD THINGS IS INDEFENSIBLE.

If you include anything but total and absolute condemnation of something that is bad, you are defending the thing. This is why we never want compassion or empathy for those who have done wrong. Any thing that isn't 100% condemnation of anybody bad is a defense of them from 100% condemnation and it is WRONG to defend bad people.

It is objectively false to say there is first degree and second degree murder, all murder is bad, and as such we can't say one murder is "better" because that means it's not bad and obviously that's wrong.

It is objectively false to say DEFCON 4 (Increased intelligence watch and strengthened security measures) is better than DEFCON 1 (Nuclear war is imminent or has already started). If you say DEFCON 4 is better than DEFCON 1 you are saying DEFCON 4 is good. All DEFCONS are bad and so they are all equally bad because none can be better.

This 3 day warning due to my ignorant and FALSE previous ignorant views really helped me learn. Censorship of bad/ignorant ideas works, it made me learn how wrong I was. Now I know the objective TRUTH: That the 1/6 terrorists were objectively as bad as the 9/11 terrorists.

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Cheater87 posted...

Time Enough At Last, Perchance to Dream, The Four of Us Are Dying, I Shot An Arrow In The Air and Five Characters In Search Of An Exit are my faves.

TC said "the new" twilight zone

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I only saw season 1 and while the cinematography and directing is good, the overall writing is pretty bad.

IIRC "Six Degrees of Freedom" might have been the best written episode.

But based on your sensibilities you might like something like "Replay"

Replay would be a good example of the kind of thing they are going for, and to me it's too on the nose and shallow.

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VitalGetPrank posted...

Yes the same goes for both sides, the difference is rightwing statements are usually easily disproven without resorting to blanket terms like "fake news" due to the right having a lukewarm at best relationship with reality.

I mean mostly, you're not wrong.

Just for the record Vox is kinda shit.

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VitalGetPrank posted...

"If he responds with some garbage like "fake news" just point out that news isn't fake just because he's triggered by what they say."

"Just send him this link from OAN, If he responds with some garbage like "fake news" just point out that news isn't fake just because he's triggered by what they say."


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I voted yes

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No, and nobody ever has.

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Oh_you_travel posted...

Maybe Im biased since I go to them for everything but they seem alright to me. Will give that link a try.

I mean you can go there, I just don't think it will persuade your friend.

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Masks always helped. I disliked the people flipping on dimes about it because politics.

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I'm curious how other people feel about such things.

Sexuality confuses me.

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VitalGetPrank posted...

Seems like a simple argument to counter.

https://www.vox.com/2020/11/13/21563825/2020-elections-most-secure-dhs-cisa-krebs

If he responds with some garbage like "fake news" just point out that news isn't fake just because he's triggered by what they say.

Vox is not the site to go to for this kind of thing.

Even when they aren't wrong they are kinda shit.

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During congressional voting:

All those in favor?
"Aye"
All those opposed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO6nBFGqHTw

"Let the record show that the congresswoman from new york's 14th district objects"

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joe40001 posted...

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Oh_you_travel posted...

but its causing me to question the tenets of poli sci and liberal arts writ large.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr3HwA9B0o4

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Oh_you_travel posted...

Definitely feel the same way, I trust no one and nothing. Like you said, if there was fraud, it would have been proven rather than the cases all being dismissed. With that said - having been educated in Liberal Arts, including political science, I know for a fact that the presidents party ALWAYS picks up seats in his first election, until 2020 that is. I dont know how to explain the dichotomy in 2020.

Were that many Republicans just voting AGAINST Trump?

Yes.

He was voted in as a disruptor to the status quo, a symbol of "fuck you" to the establishment. But after 4 years of that plenty of republicans were like "yeah, we didn't get that much good out of him, and Biden is fine, he's not like Hillary or AoC or some shit"

Trump wasn't a mainstream republican which is why trends around him were very different.

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Put simply. There is just no evidence for election fraud.

Like there were lots of legal investigations into it, and no evidence for fraud came up.

Most of the evidence for it is just "hey look at this, kinda sus mirite?" which is maybe a launching point for investigation, but the investigations happened and nobody could come up with anything.

Trust me, I care about the truth and I have a contrarian streak, if there was a massive cover up I'd be at least somewhat aware of it, and even I'm like "that's a hard no from me, dawg" because there is simply no evidence for it.

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PS: I wonder if TC is just trying to use this angle because of how contrarian places can be. He really believes this stuff, but is saying "it's dumb fascism" so that some of us might come in and say "well acktullay" and end up affirming with what he already believes.

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Oh_you_travel posted...

he sent me this too, from the great Nate Silver himself. Has this article been fact-checked?
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-did-all-the-bellwether-counties-go/amp/

What's wrong with it? Seems to just suggest demographics are shifting.

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Taharqa_ posted...

With the current level of fuckery from the GOP they're trying to chip away at civil rights and the Voting Rights Act is the most visible of the backlash politics agenda. We are fighting the same battle for the VRA as my parents' and grandparents' generation. They see the changing demographics on the horizon and are doing whatever they can to stem that, with a compliant SC and after packing the Federal courts I wouldn't put anything past them.

I think it's more of a power grab than an attempt to take away civil rights, I think they see the writing on the wall when it comes to demographics and so they think the only way to win is to stack the deck. It's shitty, for sure, and something we need to fight, but I don't see them stealing civil rights as part of their endgame just whatever they have to do to maintain power, outside of that they want to slid back into the darkness and wield power from the shadows while they get most people to fight about inane shit.

NGL, I'm concerned about their power on the courts, and I'm concerned about their fucking with democracy.

The one small concilation is that I don't think they are racist or want to turn the country fascist, they just want to maintain their power.

It's a money/power/class thing more than a civil rights thing IMO. Which is still very bad and something we should all fight against.

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You can probably vaguely talk about what it's regarding.

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I have "good"(?) news, I think your concerns have been over hyped. I do not think it would be nearly as bad as you fear.

That said, I do feel empathy for your emotional distress though.

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Godnorgosh posted...

Supporting BLM is the correct and common-sense position for anyone who does, in fact, believe that black lives matter.

How do you feel about PETA?

And how do you feel about the ethical treatment of animals?

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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

I understand.

however, in reality, the Right are more likely to opt out of critical thought and into hive mind behavior. to the point where it's worth noting. it maybe be irrelevant to you personally, but it's relevant to those willing to kill for their beliefs. downplaying it more just implies that you don't see the big picture, and possibly maybe even incapable of it.

Uncritical thinking, sure, I've seen that on both sides. I don't know if one side is "more likely", truth is I tend to ineract with a lot more people on the left than the right, but I will push back when I hear something dumb from either side.

Like if this were a republican forum I'd probably be equally unpopular and perceived as contrarian.

Personally I think this whole "big group of republicans willing to kill" is overstated. There aren't that many tiki torch republicans.

I do think we see different "big pictures". But it's maybe not as far off as you might think.

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hockeybub89 posted...

Yeah, but they haven't beheaded anyone or blew up a building. I'm incredibly intelligent and logical so I know we shouldn't call people terrorists by definition if they aren't the worst terrorists possible.

Well, you certainly shouldn't call them "no better than the terrorists on 9/11."

I don't understand the motivation to try to steal defeat from the jaws of victory.

Everybody agrees it was very bad and these people need to be prosecuted severely. If you make that your argument you easily win. But if you make the argument "they are as bad as the worst terrorists who ever terrorized" you just shot yourself in the foot for no good reason.

The need to engage in pointless hyperbole is taking away from an easy victory for society in condemning the hell out of what happened.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

The people on 1/6 were chanting death threats, and trying to violently overthrow the government for political reasons. Just because they were too stupid to do it and failed to accomplish what they were trying to doesnt make them any less of a terrorist. They are the textbook definition of terrorists. hell, a sitting congresswoman was live tweet the location of politicians so they could find her. What do you think they intended to do if they were able to get to her? Sit down and have a dignified chat with her? Come the fuck on, bro. Stop being so dense.

Most people think Trumps speech inspired this riot at the capitol. If that is so we can't also say it was a premeditated terrorist attack.

Also if they sincerely believed the gaslighting that they had been told that democracy itself had been stolen from them that also makes it different.

They were a mob of angry people who had been convinced that democracy had been stolen from them, and they began behaving illegally and violently. But that is still different than premeditated efforts to causes maximum loss of life.

Anybody coming in there with some premeditated plan to hurt or kill people, yes, you could make an argument against them. But the vast majority of people seem swept up by trump's rhetoric and so while bad, were not terrorists.

You don't not want to expand the legal definition for what counts as a terrorist to include rioter with political motivations. That is very dangerous.

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DarthAragorn posted...

joe "I'm not a conservative but if capital rioters are terrorists so is BLM" numbers

I was pointing out the problem with their definition of terrorist and how legally recognizing that definition would lead to bad consequences.

I was not personally arguing that is a good definition of terrorist.

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ZMythos posted...

Most conservatives don't seem to believe them, so I think it is.

What facts do most conservatives not believe in?

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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

in so many words, you did.

what point were you trying to drive home, then? that the Right value sentiment over substance?

They have different temperaments and focus for sure.

What did I say that you want me to clarify? Because I feel was just responding to hockeybub's question about why I seem more concerned with the left and more dismissive of the right.

And I was basically saying it was because (aside from in government, which is a big important deal) republicans haven't captured that much power in our social reality.

Mostly I was talking about how it's not a left vs right thing though and I'm much more dividing things based on those who think in a hivemind way and those who think critically. That's much more my concern.

The left vs right points are largely irrelevant. We just should call out bullshit and dangerous things whenever they come up.

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ZMythos posted...

If something is grounded in facts, it's far left.

If it's grounded in belief or falsehoods, it's center-right at the minimum

This is just reality.

No it's not.

Facts have no political affiliation.

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ZMythos posted...

Facts have a liberal bias, we know this.

I didn't say this.

Facts are not political.

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BeantownHero posted...

HAHAHAHAHA

you can't really believe this....right?

Um yeah.

Are you under the impression that they don't?

What academic institutions pander to the right and far right?

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berlyman101 posted...

there's plenty of slice-of-life shit in Twin Peaks. it's interspersed with dealing with small town issues, raising a family, jealousy, and going to the local diner.

it does get pretty off the wall, though.

OP seems to be asking for things in strange environments where the characters and situations feel relatable.

Twin Peaks is people in relatable environments where the characters and situations are very very very strange.

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