Board 8 > So what exactly is bad about Pokemon Sword and Shield?

(+) Yeah! (+)

Gen 5 Victory Road is the best one imo and probably the best cave in the series. Fantastic music, great build-up, challenging trainers.

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Dungeon design was probably at its best in Gen 5, where they managed to give dungeons some interesting gimmicks without using HMs. Having interestingly designed places like Chargestone Cave and the Relic Castle helped too.

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MariaTaylor posted...

add ten zubats and fifteen geodudes and this is accurate

Except this isn't even the case anymore because you can see wild encounters on the field and completely avoid them if you want. Isn't that supposed to be the big lauded new feature that absolves the two Switch Pokemon efforts of all their other problems?

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NBIceman posted...

Except this isn't even the case anymore because you can see wild encounters on the field and completely avoid them if you want. Isn't that supposed to be the big lauded new feature that absolves the two Switch Pokemon efforts of all their other problems?

To be fair, the mines show that they can and probably would design dungeons in a way where you don't really have the room to avoid them in certain spots.

Granted, repel exists, so I think wild pokemon were the least of the dungeons' issues, anyway

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I have to say avoiding encounters is absolutely magnificent and is a huge overall improvement

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StealThisSheen posted...

I may be in the minority, but I don't really miss the dungeons.

Move three steps, trainer battle. Move three steps, teleport or HM or card key puzzle. Move three steps, trainer battle. Move three steps, teleport or HM or card key puzzle.

I'd say the argument here is 'this was a chance for them to improve the dungeons' and not 'I'm glad dungeons are gone altogether'.

Also, apropos of nothing, I hate how devoid of personality my trainer is during cutscenes. Everyone else has these really expressive animations and all my guy does is stare dead-eyed and occasionally nod. It got to the point where I changed his eye colour to the dead, black eyes because they seemed like the most fitting.


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Didn't realize any humans played as the dude.

JackMan posted...

Also, apropos of nothing, I hate how devoid of personality my trainer is during cutscenes. Everyone else has these really expressive animations and all my guy does is stare dead-eyed and occasionally nod. It got to the point where I changed his eye colour to the dead, black eyes because they seemed like the most fitting.

Hey at least this is still an improvement over SM where the character just smiles non-stop.

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mnkboy907 posted...

Hey at least this is still an improvement over SM where the character just smiles non-stop.

While playing through Sun/Moon, I honestly thought this was intended to be a joke/humorous. I may have been too generous.

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Just finished it up.

Pros: It was short so it didn't feel like that much of a waste of time

Cons: Gamefreak so lazy

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I usually like to pretend my player character is like a puppet I'm controlling anyway, so I actually like games where they have blank expressions and act like mindless dolls. although sometimes when they have personality and dialogue it can be really funny, too.


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Anyone else thinking about getting temtem?

It comes out this month on Steam

Hbthebattle posted...

DPPt's remake would pretty much automatically be an improvement because it wouldn't have Gen 4's slowness or saving issues and especially no HMs

I'm playing diamond concurrently with sword, and this is pretty wrong. Battles are about the same speed to an embarrassing extent. (Take snow warning, you get the ability alert, the snowfall, and the explaination in three stages, when you could feasibly execute all three at the same time) Considering there will be less pokemon than the original, and the poketch will be removed, I highly doubt the remake will be as good, let alone better.

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The slowness in Gen 4 was basically from using Surf and stuff compared to the previous games.

firefdr posted...

Anyone else thinking about getting temtem?

It comes out this month on Steam

I'm curious how well the game will do. I've only seen a few of the trailers and it seems to borrow from Pokemon fairly extensively. The game has forced Doubles and Doubles is far less popular than Singles in Pokemon. But, I guess they do need something to differentiate themselves from Pokemon.
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The only way to get GF to improve these games is to boycott them, but it would never happen and people would buy a piece of poop from GF, so yea, the whole community is fucked forever

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It's not like competition changes much. Sun and Moon was their response to Yokai Watch when that was big. If that's what they put out with competition, I don't think we can expect any competition to make the games better.
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The answer is to just pick up a copy of Cyber Sleuth instead.

Digimon is on point RN.

I never played Sun/Moon. If I were either going to play that, or this, which is better?
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Digimon is really damn cool

but considering the "mons" are sentient AND can talk, its weird they're just Pokemon. I feel like they should chip into the story

but then you'd have a Chrono Cross situation I guess

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I mean...the Digimon are HEAVILY involved in the story in Cyber Sleuth!

Cyber Sleuth is good but it's no replacement for Pokemon IMO.

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MichelBollinger posted...

I mean...the Digimon are HEAVILY involved in the story in Cyber Sleuth!

I mean the ones in your damn team that literally follow you around!

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Drakeryn posted...

I never played Sun/Moon. If I were either going to play that, or this, which is better?

I would say theyre both good and bad in almost completely opposite ways. be sure to do vanilla sun and moon and not ultra tho

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SantaRPidgey posted...

Considering there will be less pokemon than the original, and the poketch will be removed, I highly doubt the remake will be as good, let alone better.

Neither of these are likely tho
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I don't see how they keep the Poktch. It kinda needs the second screen to work.
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Also this can't happen in a modern engine game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gCvQiFUyC4
nor this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsizuDZ9Sco
these are both exaggerated but the game legitimately had engine issues, not to mention all the incidents of intentional slowdowns like Defog, marsh/snow terrain, the abundance of HMs, etc.
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Mewtwo59 posted...

I don't see how they keep the Poktch. It kinda needs the second screen to work.

Likely its features will just be moved to a menu one button press away, but GameFreak has never cut something that was in the base version of a game in a remake.
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The thing is, it's a lot less useful if it's hidden behind a menu rather than always visible. Just compare Y-comm to the PSS.
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Y-Comm's problems aren't because its in a menu, its problems stem from being difficult to connect to randoms for (Non-Surprise) Trades and Raids
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that'll teach you to use blissey

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Hbthebattle posted...

Neither of these are likely tho

sword literally has less than them, so its definitely probable. Adding the poketch to a different screen makes it kinda pointless, so I cant imagine they do that well.

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Hbthebattle posted...

nor this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsizuDZ9Sco (click to expand)

this slaps yo

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Hbthebattle posted...

Likely its features will just be moved to a menu one button press away, but GameFreak has never cut something that was in the base version of a game in a remake.

Poketch may be an actual included accessory, like the Pokewalker was

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swirIdude posted...

People just whine a lot about that first point and start looking for every little thing to complain incessantly about because they're still mad about the lack of national dex.

Even though the games are already out, people are still spamming #BringBackNationalDex on pretty much every tweet made by the Pokemon official twitter account. Even on tweets unrelated to the games, such as those related to the TCG and anime.

It really feels like people are misusing the #BringBackNationalDex hashtag to complain about other issues with the games besides the Pokedex cuts.
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It removed the GTS with no alternative and the online features are actually not functional.

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tazzyboyishere posted...

It removed the GTS with no alternative and the online features are actually not functional.

With the Switch allowing you to create multiple user profiles and each profile being able to have its own save file, you could easily abuse the GTS to trade between save files on your own Switch (especially to farm Mystery Gift events). So that's probably one reason for not having it. Although doing this requires both Switch user profiles to have an active NSO subscription, so it's not very practical in theory to do.

But another reason is that they will probably lock the GTS behind a Pokemon Home pay wall instead. This will mean you'll have to pay for a Pokemon Home subscription (or maybe a one-time purchase) to have access to a trading feature that functions like the GTS.
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That first reason is such a stupid reason, yet so in line with Game Freak's thinking that I can believe it.

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