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TopicTrump Supporters of DACA repeal have NO sight of history.
Sephiroth1288
09/05/17 4:12:48 PM
#49
Balrog0 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
There's no war in Mexico.


do you even narcos bro

The death toll caused by cartels doesn't hold a candle to the casualties caused by actual wars.

Calm thine tits.
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TopicTrump Supporters of DACA repeal have NO sight of history.
Sephiroth1288
09/05/17 4:09:38 PM
#47
Imagine calling illegal immigrants "refugees"

Thry're largely fleeing Mexico. There's no war in Mexico.
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Topichypothetical: Trump wins in 2020, what happens to the left?
Sephiroth1288
09/05/17 4:06:28 PM
#13
His first win caused them actual mental breakdowns. My campus health center added "election trauma" to their list of mental health categories along with "suicide" and "depression"

Another win might legitimately send them all to the nuthouse.

Which would be fantastic, imho
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TopicSessions says DACA being rescinded, CNN TV going ape ****
Sephiroth1288
09/05/17 4:00:00 PM
#65
Axiom posted...
Only hardliners and Trump cultists think this is a good thing

And people who think the laws on the books should be enforced.
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TopicSessions says DACA being rescinded, CNN TV going ape ****
Sephiroth1288
09/05/17 3:55:58 PM
#63
hockeybub89 posted...
I'm for these people. Stay on topic. These people are our problem.

So just to be clear, you don't care about the kids brought over from 2013 on. You agree we should deport them even after they've lived here for 20-30 years. Correct?
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TopicSessions says DACA being rescinded, CNN TV going ape ****
Sephiroth1288
09/05/17 1:39:27 PM
#52
The Great Muta 22 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Laws don't end where your feelings begin.


*CoughDonaldTrumpandJoeArpaioCough*

Man, where were all of you when Obama pardoned 78 people?
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TopicSessions says DACA being rescinded, CNN TV going ape ****
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09/05/17 1:38:16 PM
#50
hockeybub89 posted...
Here's good rationale. We shouldn't doom 800,000 productive members of society to poverty in foreign nations because their parents brought them over illegally when they were small children.

Sounds like you basically support open borders as long as someone was too young when they came over.

Yeah, that will end well...
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TopicIt's OFFICIAL!! 800,000 KIDS will be BOOTED out of the USA as DACA Ends!!
Sephiroth1288
09/05/17 1:09:42 PM
#142
marc55 posted...

i think its probably because many already have jobs pay taxes speak the language and they dont have a family a home or a place to return


basically they would be telling these men and women to leave their home jobs and family to live in the streets in some other country

I'm still waiting for a reason for why they deserve citizenship before the kids trying to come in legally.
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TopicSessions says DACA being rescinded, CNN TV going ape ****
Sephiroth1288
09/05/17 1:05:12 PM
#41
Antifar posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
2. Encourages more people to bring their kids over illegally

You realize DACA only applies to those who entered the country by 2012, right?

This is the same rationale they used to justify the amnesty bill in the 80's

"It's just this one time, guys. It's over after this."

If DACA goes trough there's nothing stopping you same people in 10 years from going "but what about the poor innocent children who came after 2013???"

Nope. We already know that amnesty bills encourage more illegal immigration. There's no arguing against that anymore.
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TopicSessions says DACA being rescinded, CNN TV going ape ****
Sephiroth1288
09/05/17 12:57:56 PM
#38
Colorahdo posted...
I don't really know anything about this. DACA lets immigrants who were brought to the US as little kids and lived their whole life in the US not be deported?

To me that sounds like an objectively good bill. What's the reasoning behind destroying it?

1. Screws over kids who are trying to get into the country legally

2. Encourages more people to bring their kids over illegally
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TopicIt's OFFICIAL!! 800,000 KIDS will be BOOTED out of the USA as DACA Ends!!
Sephiroth1288
09/05/17 12:45:12 PM
#139
hockeybub89 posted...
I see that was an awkward response. We disagree on whether the chicken or egg came first. You say illegal immigration is making legal immigration harder. I think making the path to citizenship quicker and easier would do a number on illegal immigration.

Why not both

Everyone agrees that immigration law can be made better, but you're the one claiming these kids are deserving of getting citizenship before the kids who are doing it legally. Why?
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TopicCan leftists please stop saying "white men" as an insult?
Sephiroth1288
09/05/17 2:04:06 AM
#4
They're already committed to their use of "white men" as a stand-in for the bourgoisie in this latest iteration of Marxist thought. They can't change it now because they have nothing else left.
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TopicIt's OFFICIAL!! 800,000 KIDS will be BOOTED out of the USA as DACA Ends!!
Sephiroth1288
09/05/17 1:39:45 AM
#124
@hockeybub89

Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
They aren't getting a free pass. They aren't just random undocumented illegals that can do whatever the hell they want. All you are doing is pointing out the flaws in our immigration system. It is way too long and difficult of a process.

It wouldn't be if we had stricter enforcement of illegal immigration.

The former would take care of the latter.

Elaborate?

hockeybub89 posted...
I don't think it's fair. I also don't think it's fair to deport the other kid. Also, we are already letting legal in as these kids are legal. Why do we need to make some legal kids illegal to let in other legal ones?

How about this : the kids who have been trying to get in legally for years get to become citizens first and the kids who stole their spots get in line like everyone else had to.

Fair?

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
What about illegals that intentionally avoid being factored into census data?

Unless you live completely off the grid, you're in the census data.

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TopicPhonetically Displeasing Vocabulary
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09/04/17 2:19:05 PM
#2
Insipid
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TopicIt's OFFICIAL!! 800,000 KIDS will be BOOTED out of the USA as DACA Ends!!
Sephiroth1288
09/04/17 2:16:30 PM
#105
hockeybub89 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
They aren't getting a free pass. They aren't just random undocumented illegals that can do whatever the hell they want. All you are doing is pointing out the flaws in our immigration system. It is way too long and difficult of a process.

It wouldn't be if we had stricter enforcement of illegal immigration.

The former would take care of the latter.

Elaborate?

hockeybub89 posted...
I don't think it's fair. I also don't think it's fair to deport the other kid. Also, we are already letting legal in as these kids are legal. Why do we need to make some legal kids illegal to let in other legal ones?

How about this : the kids who have been trying to get in legally for years get to become citizens first and the kids who stole their spots get in line like everyone else had to.

Fair?

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
What about illegals that intentionally avoid being factored into census data?

Unless you live completely off the grid, you're in the census data.
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TopicIt's OFFICIAL!! 800,000 KIDS will be BOOTED out of the USA as DACA Ends!!
Sephiroth1288
09/04/17 1:58:57 PM
#96
hockeybub89 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
And? Not these other kids' fault.

Remember the car analogy? No it's not the kid's fault their parents gave them a stolen car. They still don't get to keep the car. It belongs to someone else.

Nothing has been stolen from anyone.

The amount of people we let in legally is dependant on the US population. So yes, we will let in less people if illegals are coming in. In effect, their spot got stolen.

Now explain why you think it's fair to keep a kid from immigrating legally out in favor of a kid who's parents stole their spot
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TopicIt's OFFICIAL!! 800,000 KIDS will be BOOTED out of the USA as DACA Ends!!
Sephiroth1288
09/04/17 1:56:55 PM
#95
hockeybub89 posted...
They aren't getting a free pass. They aren't just random undocumented illegals that can do whatever the hell they want. All you are doing is pointing out the flaws in our immigration system. It is way too long and difficult of a process.

It wouldn't be if we had stricter enforcement of illegal immigration.
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TopicIt's OFFICIAL!! 800,000 KIDS will be BOOTED out of the USA as DACA Ends!!
Sephiroth1288
09/04/17 1:53:05 PM
#91
hockeybub89 posted...
And? Not these other kids' fault.

Remember the car analogy? No it's not the kid's fault their parents gave them a stolen car. They still don't get to keep the car. It belongs to someone else.
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TopicIt's OFFICIAL!! 800,000 KIDS will be BOOTED out of the USA as DACA Ends!!
Sephiroth1288
09/04/17 1:47:53 PM
#86
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Why are their parents bad people?

For putting their kids in this position to begin with, obviously.


What position were they in previously?

One where there wasn't a good chance of getting deported.

hockeybub89 posted...
So why should be bad people too and punish people for the sins of their parents?

Because there are kids who are trying to come here legally and they basically got their spot stolen?
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TopicIt's OFFICIAL!! 800,000 KIDS will be BOOTED out of the USA as DACA Ends!!
Sephiroth1288
09/04/17 1:42:45 PM
#79
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Why are their parents bad people?

For putting their kids in this position to begin with, obviously.
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TopicIt's OFFICIAL!! 800,000 KIDS will be BOOTED out of the USA as DACA Ends!!
Sephiroth1288
09/04/17 1:41:46 PM
#78
Bullet_Wing posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
The23rdMagus posted...
The kids didn't have a choice in the matter and would likely be sent "back" to a country they don't remember and a language they don't speak.

Why should they get to jump the line just because their parents are bad people

They did nothing wrong themselves, and you'd be completely uprooting their lives for no reason but spite.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
No one who supports DACA seems to care about the kids who are trying to get into the country legally and how the prevalence of illegals slows down legal immigration.

What kind-hearted people you are for favoring rulebreakers over the kids who deserve citizenship.

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TopicIt's OFFICIAL!! 800,000 KIDS will be BOOTED out of the USA as DACA Ends!!
Sephiroth1288
09/04/17 1:40:08 PM
#75
Bullet_Wing posted...
It is, because they stole a car, hurting the owner. These kids did nothing except maybe make a life for themselves. Some are highly skilled and making great contributions to America.

Actually they did hurt a kid who is in the process of immigrating legally since the amount of people we let in is partially dependant on population growth.
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TopicIt's OFFICIAL!! 800,000 KIDS will be BOOTED out of the USA as DACA Ends!!
Sephiroth1288
09/04/17 1:37:51 PM
#74
The23rdMagus posted...
The kids didn't have a choice in the matter and would likely be sent "back" to a country they don't remember and a language they don't speak.

Why should they get to jump the line just because their parents are bad people
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TopicIt's OFFICIAL!! 800,000 KIDS will be BOOTED out of the USA as DACA Ends!!
Sephiroth1288
09/04/17 4:35:40 AM
#36
No one who supports DACA seems to care about the kids who are trying to get into the country legally and how the prevalence of illegals slows down legal immigration.

What kind-hearted people you are for favoring rulebreakers over the kids who deserve citizenship.
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TopicTrump could scrap plans to put Harriet Tubman on the 20 dollar note.
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 9:52:04 PM
#116
gunplagirl posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
It is hardly a points scoring stunt. Literally you'd rather have a guy who purposely killed millions of native Americans over a person who stands for literal freedom. I can wager a guess as to why that is.

You say this as if there's some sort of metric of goodness by which the people on the bills are picked. There is none. They're picked for their historical significance, not for how nice they are.


Oh yes who doesn't remember that Europe has tons of Hitler money? Oh wait.

The Reichsmark didn't have Hitler on them either.
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TopicTrump to donate $1 Million of his own money to Harvey relief.
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 9:47:47 PM
#84
TheVipaGTS posted...
TC can't even post good Trump news without crying about Liberals...I think you have an obsession man....

It took liberals 8 posts to compare Trump to Hitler over this

Just hang your head in shame for the people you share a political sphere with.
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TopicTrump could scrap plans to put Harriet Tubman on the 20 dollar note.
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08/31/17 9:43:18 PM
#112
gunplagirl posted...
It is hardly a points scoring stunt. Literally you'd rather have a guy who purposely killed millions of native Americans over a person who stands for literal freedom. I can wager a guess as to why that is.

You say this as if there's some sort of metric of goodness by which the people on the bills are picked. There is none. They're picked for their historical significance, not for how nice they are.
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TopicTrump could scrap plans to put Harriet Tubman on the 20 dollar note.
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 9:22:22 PM
#105
gunplagirl posted...

Imagine acting like race plays no role in society

Imagine thinking a genocidal president is better for the 20 than a god damn american hero

Imagine thinking this has nothing to do with race

Imagine that time addy said he's okay with racial profiling

Imagine falling this hard for a meaningless points-scoring stunt that will help nobody in any meaningful way.
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TopicWould a government shutdown stop FEMA from working?
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 9:14:47 PM
#8
Ruvan22 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Since it's a self-run agency I don't see why it would


What do you mean self run?

The people who run it have their own budget and won't lose any funding unless a govt shutdown somehow lasts into another fiscal year.
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TopicEvergreen college to have $2.1m budget crisis b/c of enrollment
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 9:08:37 PM
#21
No wonder SJWs hate capitalism so much. They know they'll fail if they had to attract customers with their ideas.
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TopicTrump could scrap plans to put Harriet Tubman on the 20 dollar note.
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 9:05:28 PM
#97
CADE FOSTER posted...

Are you incapable of formulating your own thoughts?
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TopicTrump could scrap plans to put Harriet Tubman on the 20 dollar note.
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 9:04:46 PM
#96
cjsdowg posted...
Asking to that while closing DMVs in the black areas.
Making where other forms of ID normally cared by white people would be ok, but not black people.

State IDs. State IDs are what you're referring to by "forms of ID normally carried by white people". The only requirement to get one is being a citizen and paying $20. Also, you don't even need to physically go to a DMV to get one.

Soooooo racist.

cjsdowg posted...
Saying point blank they want to stop black people from voting.
Having the courts say they are trying to stop black people from voting .

Here you're referring to a statement by one guy in North Carolina, and indeed he is a racist, but that's your justification for saying all of the Republican party is bad for minorities? If that's the game you want to play, I have way better evidence of racism in the DNC!


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TopicTrump could scrap plans to put Harriet Tubman on the 20 dollar note.
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 8:53:30 PM
#93
cjsdowg posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...

Only Democrats who wanted to use this to continue pretending to be the pro-minority party without actually doing anything to improve the lot of minorities.


As opposed to actively hurting minorities that Republicans do.

I'm willing to bet your only example of such a thing is asking people to produce an ID when voting.

Oh nooooo, how racist.
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TopicTrump to donate $1 Million of his own money to Harvey relief.
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 8:41:51 PM
#79
CanuckCowboy posted...
Nomadic View posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
Wow. Half a percent of what Floyd mayweather gave. What a fucking hero.


If you believe politifact, he didn't.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/aug/30/houstonchronicle-tvcom/its-fake-news-floyd-mayweather-jr-donated-200-mill/


Huh.

Well to be fair I haven't seen a really major news outlet run a story either way.

Well yeah, because it was only reported on by one tiny news website with almost no traffic
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TopicTrump could scrap plans to put Harriet Tubman on the 20 dollar note.
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 8:40:20 PM
#89
Vicious_Dios posted...
People actually wanted This?

Only Democrats who wanted to use this to continue pretending to be the pro-minority party without actually doing anything to improve the lot of minorities.
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TopicTrump could scrap plans to put Harriet Tubman on the 20 dollar note.
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08/31/17 7:59:49 PM
#83
__Cam__ posted...
The $1 note should be dedicated to the geography and natural wonders/formations of America.

The $5 note should be dedicated to feats and achievements of American engineering and technology.

The $10 note should be dedicated to iconic American landmarks and architecture.

The $20 note should be dedicated to iconic American folklore, artists and writers.

The $50 note should be dedicated to Civil Rights icons.

The $100 note should be dedicated to the founding fathers.

Not gonna lie

That's a really stupid idea.
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TopicWould a government shutdown stop FEMA from working?
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08/31/17 7:54:14 PM
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Since it's a self-run agency I don't see why it would
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TopicTrump to donate $1 Million of his own money to Harvey relief.
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08/31/17 7:38:31 PM
#67
Antifar posted...
After calling 420-plus charities with some connection to Trump,

In other words, not necessarily any charities that Trump claimed to donate to.

Antifar posted...

Trump officials did not respond when asked to provide evidence of the tens of millions of dollars in gifts.

Welp that proves it. The president didn't respond to some journalist, therefore the only logical assumption is that none of it ever happened.

Fake. News.
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TopicTrump to donate $1 Million of his own money to Harvey relief.
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08/31/17 7:13:35 PM
#60
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Trump has a history of promising donations to causes, not actually committing to his word, and only doing so after being confronted by reporters. WaPo is merely the more credible side on this issue, not Trump. Go ahead and hold your breath until some entity confirms receiving a check from Trump.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/politics/trump-salary-donation-department-of-education/index.html
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TopicKathy Griffin calls out Trump's atrocities. What atrocities?
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 7:11:32 PM
#106
Darmik posted...
I believe in context and not black and white rules.

Same here, which is why I call people who are against bodyshaming hypocrites as these sort of people overwhelmingly attack people they don't like for their appearance.
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08/31/17 7:08:17 PM
#56
mario2000 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Together, those pledges would have increased Trump%u2019s lifetime giving by millions of dollars. But The Post has been unable to verify that he followed through on any of them.

"Unable to confirm" = "never happened"?

I can't imagine the WP tried very had to begin with, lmao.

unable to confirm means unable to confirm

maybe you should learn what words mean

@UnholyMudcrab said Trump has a history of not following through with donation promises. @Antifar tried to back that up with a WaPo story about how they "didn't confirm" any donation, which is clearly not a case of Trump not following through with a donation because we have no idea how intensely WaPo tried to track down these donations. Maybe you should try to follow a conversation's progression before making yourself look like a fool, @mario2000

And in all likelihood they didn't, since they have a clear agenda against Trump. Look at the tagline under their title: they claim Democracy "died in darkness" after an election that used the same rules that every election had for the past 200 years.

WaPo earned the title "fake news".
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TopicKathy Griffin calls out Trump's atrocities. What atrocities?
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08/31/17 7:03:31 PM
#104
Darmik posted...
I don't have an issue insulting Trumps appearance because of his behavior and attitude towards appearance and I doubt I'm the only one.

Either you believe it's ok to insult people's appearance or you don't. It's like in the case of free speech: We allow people who support restricted speech laws to speak freely, because doing otherwise would make you a hypocrite and would be an injunction against the virtue itself.

Similarly, people who are against body shaming who pick-and-choose who it's ok to bodyshame are hypocrites for that reason. Either you are against bodyshaming or you aren't. you don't get to take this a-la-carte.
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TopicKathy Griffin calls out Trump's atrocities. What atrocities?
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 6:56:35 PM
#102
Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
--kresnik-- posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Dragon56 posted...
as is his big shit orange face

Oh look, another liberal mocking someone because of their skin color.

SJWs dispense with all their notions of decency when dealing with people who disagree with them.

It's bad to fat shame...unless it's Republican politician. It's bad to slut-shame...unless it's a Republican politician's daughter. It's bad to be racist...unless they're a Republican, in which case feel free to call them a "house n*****"/judenrat/etc.


Is this the part where you pretend that Trump isn't notorious for insulting peoples appearance?

I don't believe that not insulting people's appearance is a virtue.

But SJWs do, which proves they're tremendous hypocrites whenever they try to insult people for their appearance.
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08/31/17 6:51:58 PM
#53
Together, those pledges would have increased Trump%u2019s lifetime giving by millions of dollars. But The Post has been unable to verify that he followed through on any of them.

"Unable to confirm" = "never happened"?

I can't imagine the WP tried very had to begin with, lmao.
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TopicKathy Griffin calls out Trump's atrocities. What atrocities?
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08/31/17 6:49:01 PM
#100
--kresnik-- posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Dragon56 posted...
as is his big shit orange face

Oh look, another liberal mocking someone because of their skin color.

SJWs dispense with all their notions of decency when dealing with people who disagree with them.

It's bad to fat shame...unless it's Republican politician. It's bad to slut-shame...unless it's a Republican politician's daughter. It's bad to be racist...unless they're a Republican, in which case feel free to call them a "house n*****"/judenrat/etc.
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TopicKathy Griffin calls out Trump's atrocities. What atrocities?
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08/31/17 6:39:57 PM
#96
creativerealms posted...
Right now the worst Trump has done is laid out the foundation for atrocities.

Care to elaborate
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TopicSheriff Clarke has resigned
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 6:12:37 PM
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Antifar posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
What is he done that's so terrible?

A sheriff is culpable for everything that goes on in a jail in his county

Nah not really.
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TopicSheriff Clarke has resigned
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 5:57:06 PM
#20
Axiom posted...
Good. He was a corrupt piece of shit. Only worse sheriff than him was Joe Arpaio

What has he done that's so terrible?

Besides calling out BLM as the joke that it is, I mean
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TopicTrump to donate $1 Million of his own money to Harvey relief.
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 5:54:46 PM
#49
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
It is good.

But TC, if Obama donated a million dollars to hurricane victims or any other cause that's important to you, would you suddenly love him?

I wouldn't try to spin it like a negative.

And what if Obama had a history of not following through on similar promises?

Does Trump?
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TopicTrump to donate $1 Million of his own money to Harvey relief.
Sephiroth1288
08/31/17 5:51:56 PM
#45
CrimsonRage posted...
It is good.

But TC, if Obama donated a million dollars to hurricane victims or any other cause that's important to you, would you suddenly love him?

I wouldn't try to spin it like a negative.
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