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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 4:17:00 PM
#110
shockthemonkey posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Antifar posted...
Make of this what you will:
https://splinternews.com/brett-kavanaughs-alleged-accomplice-has-spent-years-try-1829101148

I make that that site clearly has an agenda if it tries to attack his character for liking Sarah Palin.

Classic Mal style deflection

I like how you only now have a problem with deflecting when his post itself is a deflection.

If it's ok to assume Judge is lying because you believe he hates rape victims or something, then it's ok to assume Ford is lying because she hates Kavanaugh's mom for foreclosing on her parents' house, right?

You just want your cake and to eat it too, huh? Make up your mind.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 4:11:10 PM
#108
Antifar posted...
Make of this what you will:
https://splinternews.com/brett-kavanaughs-alleged-accomplice-has-spent-years-try-1829101148

I make that that site clearly has an agenda if it tries to attack his character for liking Sarah Palin.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:47:56 PM
#100
Smashingpmkns posted...
Mark Judge seems like a total weird ass mother fucker so I dunno if he's a great witness.

If @shockthemonkey were consistent in his reasoning, he would berate you for thinking a person could be lying.

Let's see if he does.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:44:37 PM
#97
frozenshock posted...
Innocent until proven guilty...

But still deserves an investigation.

The FBI already declined to investigate it.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:40:48 PM
#94
Antifar posted...
To be clear, Mark Judge has not said that it never happened, but that he doesn't recall something like that happening:
https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1040708769150382085

"It's just absolutely nuts. I never saw Brett act that way," Judge told TWS.

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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:38:43 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...

Of the particular story she's telling now? I doubt she's a victim of that.

You believe that shes a victim, but you also believe that she is lying about who her attacker was?

And about many of the details of her story, such as the witness who says it never happened.

...shes lying about the witness or the witness says shes lying about the story?

She claimed Mark Judge saved her from being raped, but Judge said it never happened.

https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/kavanaugh-classmate-named-in-letter-strongly-denies-allegations-of-misconduct
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:34:45 PM
#89
creativerealms posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Error1355 posted...
I do think that it is something that should hold off on voting him in until more information is able to be discovered about it though one way or the other.

If you could delay any vote just by finding some stooge who's willing to say that something happened three decades prior, do you have any idea how much dirtier politics will get

Dirtier would be stalling for a whole year and passing up any choice the President makes. Oh wait that is what the republicans did in 2016.

^ In order to do that, you need enough people to be elected to Congress.

There's no democratic process involved in cooking up a rape accusation.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:30:23 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...

Of the particular story she's telling now? I doubt she's a victim of that.

You believe that shes a victim, but you also believe that she is lying about who her attacker was?

And about many of the details of her story, such as the witness who says it never happened.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:26:43 PM
#80
shockthemonkey posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
I never said she isnt lying nor have I ever said listen and believe. You arent being just skeptical you are mocking and attacking someone who is an alleged sexual assault victim.

Where did I mock her

I'm skeptical she's a victim, hence the quotes. What's the problem

Do you believe that she lied to her therapist about being sexually assaulted?

The notes that don't actually name Kavanaugh? I don't know, it might be true.

Regardless of whether you think Kavanaugh did it, do you think she was lying to her therapist about being sexually assaulted?

I have no reason to disbelieve that she was sexually assaulted in high school at some point

So then why the fuck are you calling her victim?

I doubt she's a victim of the particular story she's telling now.

This isn't that hard.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:24:32 PM
#76
shockthemonkey posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
I never said she isnt lying nor have I ever said listen and believe. You arent being just skeptical you are mocking and attacking someone who is an alleged sexual assault victim.

Where did I mock her

I'm skeptical she's a victim, hence the quotes. What's the problem

Do you believe that she lied to her therapist about being sexually assaulted?

The notes that don't actually name Kavanaugh? I don't know, it might be true.

Regardless of whether you think Kavanaugh did it, do you think she was lying to her therapist about being sexually assaulted?

I have no reason to disbelieve that she was sexually assaulted in high school at some point. There's nothing suspicious about that claim and she had no real reason to lie about it in 2012, so I believe that it happened.

Naming Kavanaugh as the rapist, the timing of the accusation, and the fact that the only witness she named said it never happened, is really suspicious. Do you disagree?
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:21:45 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
so you're agnostic on whether she lied about the incident, but you know for sure it wasn't Kavanaugh

No, I said that I didn't believe the story, for the reasons I listed in the OP.
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TopicI heard Trump voted for himself
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:19:03 PM
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It's treason.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:18:25 PM
#66
Antifar posted...
If this is designed solely to derail Kavanaugh's confirmation, don't you think it's awful tame? Like, wouldn't Democrats concoct a more recent incident, or one that was more than an attempt?

A recent incident would be a lot easier to disprove.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:17:55 PM
#65
shockthemonkey posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
I never said she isnt lying nor have I ever said listen and believe. You arent being just skeptical you are mocking and attacking someone who is an alleged sexual assault victim.

Where did I mock her

I'm skeptical she's a victim, hence the quotes. What's the problem

Do you believe that she lied to her therapist about being sexually assaulted?

The notes that don't actually name Kavanaugh? I don't know, it might be true.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:13:21 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
I never said she isnt lying nor have I ever said listen and believe. You arent being just skeptical you are mocking and attacking someone who is an alleged sexual assault victim.

Where did I mock her

I'm skeptical she's a victim, hence the quotes. What's the problem
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TopicWhy do people hate the #metoo movement?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:11:04 PM
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Because it's morphed into a witch hunt and catching people who did nothing wrong, like Aziz Ansari
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 3:08:15 PM
#56
Polycosm posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Yeah, about that...

https://tinyurl.com/ybcxt6op

There's an incredibly weak defense of memo-gate in there.

-The memos weren't technically stolen because no real 'hacking' took place; they were just "exploiting a glitch."

-Nothing suspicious about receiving internal Dem documents; Kavanaugh had no reason to question where they came from.

-One doc had a confidential marking but "we all know that no one in D.C. overmarks things as confidential," so no biggie.

-One doc was marked "not for distribution" but... "just because something is marked 'not for distribution' doesn't mean it was stolen"

How stupid do you want me to believe Kavanaugh is?

Did you actually read what he wrote

shockthemonkey posted...
Youre talking shit about a victim of sexual assault

An alleged victim of sexual assault.

shockthemonkey posted...
Hes calling you out for it in the place where youre doing it

Didn't you guys get burned enough by this "listen and believe" nonsense? It's not a bad thing to be skeptical of suspicious claims.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 2:49:50 PM
#53
CruelBuffalo posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Error1355 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Error1355 posted...
I do think that it is something that should hold off on voting him in until more information is able to be discovered about it though one way or the other.

If you could delay any vote just by finding some stooge who's willing to say that something happened three decades prior, do you have any idea how much dirtier politics will get

It doesn't seem like the woman accusing him of this is just some 'random stooge willing to say anything'.


He already deleted his post using four pairs of quotes around sexual assault victim describing her in another topic, and being cute with stooge like it wasnt obvious what he was doing

I like how you're so obsessed with me that you will zero in on a post I deleted in like 10 seconds.

I deleted it because I realized I didn't want to get responses about this in two different topics. But yeah, """""victim""""".


Seek professional help

Says the guy who brings their baggage about me across topics on a video game message board over something as dumb as me calling a suspicious accuser a """""victim""""".
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 2:45:37 PM
#51
Polycosm posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Polycosm posted...
Presumption of innocence applies to a trial but not to the election, nomination or confirmation of a public official. Based on what we know, Ford is more trustworthy than Kavanaugh, who basically perjured himself.

you talking about his answers with respect to his involvement in the Bush administrations approval of torture?

I was actually thinking about this:
http://time.com/5398191/brett-kavanaugh-supreme-court-senators/

To summarize:
Judd Legum wrote...
1. Whether he knew he received stolen emails
2. When he found out about warrantless wiretapping
3. Whether he was involved in the Pryor nomination

But his answers on Bush admin torture and whether Roe v Wade is "settled law" also demand clarification, imo.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Yeah, about that...

https://tinyurl.com/ybcxt6op

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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 2:45:16 PM
#48
CruelBuffalo posted...
Error1355 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Error1355 posted...
I do think that it is something that should hold off on voting him in until more information is able to be discovered about it though one way or the other.

If you could delay any vote just by finding some stooge who's willing to say that something happened three decades prior, do you have any idea how much dirtier politics will get

It doesn't seem like the woman accusing him of this is just some 'random stooge willing to say anything'.


He already deleted his post using four pairs of quotes around sexual assault victim describing her in another topic, and being cute with stooge like it wasnt obvious what he was doing

I like how you're so obsessed with me that you will zero in on a post I deleted in like 10 seconds.

I deleted it because I realized I didn't want to get responses about this in two different topics. But yeah, """""victim""""".
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 2:43:44 PM
#45
Error1355 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Error1355 posted...
I do think that it is something that should hold off on voting him in until more information is able to be discovered about it though one way or the other.

If you could delay any vote just by finding some stooge who's willing to say that something happened three decades prior, do you have any idea how much dirtier politics will get

It doesn't seem like the woman accusing him of this is just some 'random stooge willing to say anything'.

Even if you believe she isn't, there's no way to tell for sure one way or the other because her claims have no evidence.

Imagine a scenario where that low bar is enough to delay any vote. Obviously it would be a primary tactic to delay any vote you wanted, because any man or woman who once lived in the same zip code as the person being voted on could make up a story that the person raped them.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 2:36:12 PM
#41
JerseyProudBoy posted...
tfw you realize they don't because it's not actually as easy or reliable as you're stupidly implying it would be

Apparently it is, because this lady has no proof of it ever happening and the only alleged witness says it never happened.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 2:35:13 PM
#39
shockthemonkey posted...
Polycosm posted...
Presumption of innocence applies to a trial but not to the election, nomination or confirmation of a public official. Based on what we know, Ford is more trustworthy than Kavanaugh, who basically perjured himself.

Yeah the fact that hes still being considered after committing perjury is already terrible

Yeah, about that...

https://tinyurl.com/ybcxt6op

green butter posted...
how do you even verify if something like this is true or not?

You can't, but the Democrats don't care. This is their last ditch effort to delay him getting voted in.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 2:30:39 PM
#31
Polycosm posted...
Presumption of innocence applies to a trial but not to the election, nomination or confirmation of a public official. Based on what we know, Ford is more trustworthy than Kavanaugh, who basically perjured himself.

Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 2:29:14 PM
#25
CruelBuffalo posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Error1355 posted...
I do think that it is something that should hold off on voting him in until more information is able to be discovered about it though one way or the other.

If you could delay any vote just by finding some stooge who's willing to say that something happened three decades prior, do you have any idea how much dirtier politics will get


And now youre calling her a stooge. What is honestly wrong with you. I mean seriously.

I'm not talking about her specifically, I'm talking about this precedent.

If a baseless accusation of a crime were enough to delay any vote you waned, then making up an accusation against a person would be a fantastically strategic way to block any vote you didn't like. There would be literally no reason for a politician not to do this.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 2:25:39 PM
#18
Error1355 posted...
I do think that it is something that should hold off on voting him in until more information is able to be discovered about it though one way or the other.

If you could delay any vote just by finding some stooge who's willing to say that something happened three decades prior, do you have any idea how much dirtier politics will get
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 2:24:12 PM
#13
CruelBuffalo posted...
I would want until they testify under oath about this so i dont have an opinion other than her claim could be valid.

Any claim could be valid, but this claim is way too suspicious to be taken seriously.
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TopicDoes anyone actually believe the accusation against Kavanaugh?
Sephiroth1288
09/17/18 2:16:04 PM
#1
Feinstein got the accusation letter in July, but for some reason was ok with a US judge being a rapist until a week before he gets onto the supreme court when she submitted the letter to the FBI

Ford claims that Mark Judge saved her by jumping on top of them and separating them, but Judge himself says it never happened

Ford has motives to slander Kavanaugh beyond just being a liberal professor of humanities and a Democrat; Kavanaugh's mother was the judge in a case that got Ford's parents' home foreclosed on.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=156006V&loc=68&detailLoc=MCCI

And lastly, Ford herself was ok with Kavanaugh being a high-ranking judge for decades but only nowafter 35 years decides to release a rape accusation.

::thinkyface::
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TopicDoes Colin Kaepernick have a case about NFL 'collusion' to blacklist him?
Sephiroth1288
09/08/18 8:54:28 AM
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Since when was it a legal requirement for the NFL to employ people
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TopicDo they always female inside female mascot costumes like Minnie mouse
Sephiroth1288
09/07/18 1:00:59 AM
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Usually all the smaller mascots are women, like Mickey.
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TopicSo Trump is against the freedom of the press once again
Sephiroth1288
09/07/18 12:26:27 AM
#52
shockthemonkey posted...
I made a shit load of topics about how shitty Obamas treatment of whistleblowers was and especially about how Manning didnt deserve jail time.

You know Manning was one of several people he imprisoned, right
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TopicSo Trump is against the freedom of the press once again
Sephiroth1288
09/07/18 12:25:09 AM
#50
shockthemonkey posted...
Obama did not go after journalists. He went after leakers. Do you understand the difference?

Trump asked them to turn over the leaker, he's not going after the guy who wrote the story, Einstein.

shockthemonkey posted...
And yes, Trump calls journalists the enemy of the people

Citation needed.
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TopicSo Trump is against the freedom of the press once again
Sephiroth1288
09/07/18 12:21:43 AM
#47
DrizztLink posted...
Oh look, Mal ignores everything except the low-hanging fruit and is gonna pretend it's a victory.

This topic is the low-hanging fruit.

None of you cared when Obama did worse shit than Trump says he will do, so yeah none of you care about this beyond point-scoring.
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TopicAce Attorney panel coming to TGS 2018, Capcom calls it "unmissable"
Sephiroth1288
09/07/18 12:16:53 AM
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I hope its another Edgeworth game tbqh
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TopicSo Trump is against the freedom of the press once again
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09/07/18 12:14:53 AM
#44
shockthemonkey posted...
The Obama Administration also targeted leakers rather than the journalists who published their stories, very different from labeling journalists as enemies of the people and inciting violence against them.

Actually Trump said fake news was the people's enemy, not journalists.

And yeah Obama is still worse. He actually imprisoned people for reporting on him.
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TopicSo Trump is against the freedom of the press once again
Sephiroth1288
09/06/18 7:09:28 PM
#26
mustachedmystic posted...
You are right Mal, Obama was a shitty president. But guess what? Trump is much worse, and it's more important to do something about the jackass in office now, than the one whop left 2 years ago.

Actually no, Obama is way worse in this regard and it's not even disputable.

Dash_Harber posted...
I didn't say anything about Obama. No one did. That was you. Can you justify Trump's behavior, without bringing up another politician?

Yes: talk is cheap, actions are all that matters. And it's awfully suspicious how you guys only now care about this sort of thing....
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TopicWhy do you think our economy is so good right now?
Sephiroth1288
09/06/18 8:51:24 AM
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Antifar posted...
Good for who?

Most everyone, given how we have record low unemployment.
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Topic2K begs gamers to contact the government so their lootboxes can stay in games.
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09/06/18 8:50:31 AM
#29
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Republicans will call, they love bending over for corporations.

How many Republicans are there in Belgium
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TopicIf you want a historical parallel to Donald Trump, look at Kaiser Wilhelm II
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09/06/18 8:47:31 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Does he have similarities beyond insulting people

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TopicWhy do you think our economy is so good right now?
Sephiroth1288
09/06/18 8:45:08 AM
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Fewer regulations and lower taxes encouraging more people to spend.
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TopicSo Trump is against the freedom of the press once again
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09/06/18 8:42:28 AM
#6
Dash_Harber posted...
Can you make an argument for Trump without saying someone else is worse?

Just pointing out that anyone who calls Trump a tyrant over this must accept that Obama was a way worse tyrant.

Except, strangely, only Obama slurpers seem to care about Trump saying things like this.
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TopicITT: Ruin a movie by adding a word to the title
Sephiroth1288
09/06/18 8:39:52 AM
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Kill Bill Clinton
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TopicIf you want a historical parallel to Donald Trump, look at Kaiser Wilhelm II
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09/06/18 3:05:23 AM
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Does he have similarities beyond insulting people

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TopicITT: Ruin a movie by adding a word to the title
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09/06/18 2:56:57 AM
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The Bath Room
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TopicSo Trump is against the freedom of the press once again
Sephiroth1288
09/06/18 2:42:10 AM
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Has he started arresting journalist sources yet, or is he just talking

Because unless he breaks Obama's record of espionage act usages, he's still more pro-press than Obama was.
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TopicOfifical Trailer for American Horror Story Apocalypse
Sephiroth1288
09/06/18 2:40:24 AM
#9
Did AHS ever get scary?

I gave up on it halfway through the asylum season after Anne Frank showed up and I was like "well, that's enough stupid for me today"

And yeah I'm aware it wasn't really her, but I wouldn't have put a lame twist like that past the show.
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TopicIf you want a historical parallel to Donald Trump, look at Kaiser Wilhelm II
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09/06/18 2:30:14 AM
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Does he have similarities beyond insulting people
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TopicThe Admiral addressing the other shit posters after his 3rd suspenion
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09/06/18 12:06:42 AM
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@Error1355 posted...
o_o

You not gonna do something about this blatant trolling, bro?
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TopicBank of America freeing accounts of suspected illegal immigrats
Sephiroth1288
09/05/18 8:16:13 PM
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Do you people think BoA is run by the government or something?
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TopicWhy do whites wear shoes in their house?
Sephiroth1288
09/05/18 1:04:52 PM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
I mean, if you walk around outside at all and then walk around in your house, you are going to be tracking dirt and grime around your house. Especially over time. Obviously straight up walking in dirt is worse but the fact of the matter is, you aren't really going to be able to avoid it. Keep in mind it's not only outside stuff that matters, you walk around in public bathrooms and other dirty areas as well.

So rather than track in some particulates from your office building, you'll instead track bacteria and sweat from your bare feet everywhere.

Much better.
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