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GregShmedley posted...

And your city councilman is an idiot.

it isn't for my city, but I actually think he is a pretty smart guy. he's done a lot of good things for housing and transit in his city.

but as someone said, "stick to the sidewalks and murals, Matthew"
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hmm, I'm not sure if I'm being trolled or if you are so ignorant about the roles of the different branches of government that you think I'm the one who is ignorant about those things
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Squall28 posted...

Yeah they shouldn't buy back. It should be made illegal altogether. If they find out you still have one, you should incur a heavy fine in addition with force removal.

he said at "3 times the retail value" for the buy back also
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Iodine posted...

hollow_shrine posted...

That's what checks and balances are for, and unless the entire supreme court just up and dies and Trump somehow appoints a new judicial bench of anti-gun justices, that's not happening.

That will never happen. Both houses of congress could be 100% democratic and it would still never happen.

Why can't y'all come up with political apocalypse fantasies that at least make sense?

What does the SCOTUS have to do with it? The only thing this scenario is missing is that after proposing the amendment change, it would require 2/3 of state legislatures to agree to it. Which is also unrealistic, but it has nothing to do with the other branches of government
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they would honestly probably enact a lot of really stupid measures that would satisfy people who are sick of the NRA, but would not be effective at curbing gun violence TBQH imho
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I don't know what you mean. Revenues from tobacco continue to rise, and people continue to smoke less, thanks to excise taxes on tobacco. This is true even accounting for the fact that people will smuggle them or use the black market in some fashion. But that is another reason actual user fees (tolls) are superior.
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this is what a city council member for my state's (arkansas) most liberal city (fayetteville, a college town) just proposed on facebook

awful
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I don't see why you can't both raise revenue and induce people to do less of a thing. It works for tobacco and, to a much lesser extent, alcohol.
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r4X0r posted...

Kid B is now a journeyman welder making wage, and earns $47.50/hr. He can charge $100/hr for off the table side work and can make more on the side on a Saturday morning than kid A earns in a whole week. He's saved his money and now has a net worth of $100,000. At 22 he can now look at buying a home and starting a family. He's "uneducated."

that isn't how much welders make at all, though btw

the 90th percentile for welders of all levels is more like $35/hour -- this hypothetical welder is one of the best paid in the country. Welding doesn't have a very high cap relative to starting wages so experience doesn't have as much influence as it does in most 'professional' career paths but I still really suspect a 22 year old wouldn't be that guy
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Darkman124 posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

Thanks Ill read when Im home. Curious, where did they pull their data from? Nationally? District? State?

nationwide

data set came from the 1998-1999 NCES random sample

K-5

they're investigating the early trends that get this ball rolling; likely later performance gaps are a result of the development of early gaps that resulted in disengagement by the older child

in childhood education advocacy circles, it is well-known that your entire education is essentially determined by 3rd grade

I mean that isn't literally true and it is not my specialty so I just want to be clear that I haven't done much digging into the actual research myself, but supposedly your performance on certain (esp. reading) tests predict a very large amount of the variance in educational outcomes
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Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...

Like what kind of restrictions? What law that isnt already on the books can you come up with? I can tell no law would have stopped this shooting.

I mean, in this case you could restrict gun sales to people 21 and older to prevent him from buying the gun

Not saying I would actually support that but that was a trivially easy thing to think of -- it is already the law some places in the US
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DifferentialEquation posted...

Yes, in otherwise identical scenarios, someone with an AR-15 would do more damage than with a revolver. What I am saying is that, in a school shooting scenario where it is unfortunately like shooting fish in barrel, someone can kill a lot of people with a revolver before the cops show up. I don't see any reason why someone murdering 10-20 children with a revolver wouldn't prompt the same sorts of "no civilian needs a weapon that can cause that much death" arguments.

The arguments for banning/restricting the guns themselves has almost always hinged on the death count. Someone killing 10-20 kids with a revolver is no less a tragedy.

Also, an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine is one of the best choices for a home defense weapon which is one reason why I want it to to remain available to civilians.

I agree with you that types of guns banned or even magazine restrictions are bad ideas with no evidence to support them.

How do you feel about "permit to purchase" legislation?
https://www.jhsph.edu/research/centers-and-institutes/johns-hopkins-center-for-gun-policy-and-research/publications/PTP-policy-brief.pdf

There is evidence that this kind of legislation does reduce gun violence (both suicide and homicide):

https://www.jhsph.edu/research/centers-and-institutes/johns-hopkins-center-for-gun-policy-and-research/_pdfs/effects-of-missouris-repeal-of-its-handgun-purchaser-licensing-law-on-homicides.pdf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4504296/
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DevsBro posted...

Not that anyone is actually going to drive less as a result of this (Americans are addicted as hell to those stupid machines) but one upside is that in theory traffic should lessen so maybe we can mind trick ourselves into thinking it has.

people will drive less, though

driving is a surprisingly price sensitive activity

this is much worse than an actual user fee, though, since rich people are more likely to have more fuel efficient cars (or even electric, these days). so a user fee would be less regressive. the trump plan also allows states to implement tolls on interstates, though, which is another thing that I like.
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havent read the topic but good. I like many aspects of his infrastructure plan
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myzz7 posted...

what an awful comic lol
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tag
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Bishop9800 posted...

Atralis posted...

This isn't really a right or left issue guys.

Americans on EBT are fatter than Americans that aren't which makes them some of the fattest human beings to ever have existed in the entire history of the species. That is a fact that people on the left and right acknowledge.

So what do you do about it?

The Obama administration's talking points were that we need to make sure everyone has access to a wider range of foods than what you would find at your local 7/11. Basically access to fresh fruits and veggies. But like the saying goes you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. The evidence is iffy on whether or not just offering people fresh food as an option will do anything to reduce the obesity level so the other front to attack on is education.

Kids that are taught to pay attention to calorie counts on the food they eat and basically conditioned to eat non-junk food foods will be more likely to continue to care when the grow up.

This "food stamps only work for these foods" approach is a bit heavy handed. I think a compromise would be rolling it out in a few areas and studying whether or not it makes the people forced into a diet healthier.

best post!!!

I don't think the evidence is very good that SNAP recipients are fatter than non-SNAP recipients due to their food purchasing habits, though. I'm not even sure about the fact that they are fatter than non-SNAP recipients unless you are just trying to say that poor people are fatter than richer people, but I don't see how that's useful. It is a very difficult thing to track and evaluate, though.
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Unreliableness posted...

Romulox28 posted...

he's a real piece of shit

I'd love to hear what he's said that you don't like you'd have to source it of course, if you're gonna claim he's alt-right. He's definitely not haha.

wowee.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/television/gavin-mcinnes-path-to-the-far-rightfrontier/article36024918/

That's okay, though: Cast out of the Vice tribe, cut loose by an expanding array of friends, McInnes has found a new posse to ride with him out there on the frontier. On Monday, after making it clear he believes Alex Fields Jr. and the rally organizers were responsible for last weekend's tragedy, he set his sights on the media. They, too, were to blame, he said, for "politicizing" white men by constantly belittling them.

I was both stunned and energized. This was the mirror image of the argument I'd tried to make to McInnes the first time we spoke: That, if only for his self-interest, he might want to temper his Islamophobia because it could alienate and potentially spur the radicalization of moderate Muslims. At the time, he'd changed the subject. So I called him up and asked again if he didn't see the parallels.

"Simon, that is a remarkably facile way to view the world. You sound like a woman," he snapped. The question, as he saw it, was one of proportion: How many Nazis had killed anyone in the United States? And how many Muslims had done the same?

I reframed the question, and on the other end of the line, he paused. "Yes, innocent Muslims get caught up in that. Yes, the vast majority of them, especially in North America, are good people," he said quietly. "I don't want to alienate moderate Muslims."

Then why persist with the stereotyping?

"No, no! See? Now you're telling me how to behave in a society where we're under siege!" he yelled down the line. "This is victim blaming! This is victim blaming!"
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he is the proud boys guy

isnt that the name of it?

idk, seems dumb tbh
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I finally beat super mario rpg and I'd like to try something else now

I only listed series where I havent beaten a game but feel free to elaborate

also feel free to recommend a specific game in said series
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thelovefist posted...

Don't a significant number of a food stamp recipients sell their food stamps for drugs like crack? This should help that right?

this doesn't happen as often as you'd think because, surprisingly, poor people actually like the ability to buy food tax free
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Teddytalks posted...

The problem with the food delivery idea is that it doesn't address anything at all, and really only serve to make them less happy.

The public safety net should never be a hammock.

people on SNAP already need to meet work requirements after 3 months. if they do not, they have to wait 3 years to re-enroll

to be fair, this only applies to 'able bodied adults without dependents' but as I am always telling you conservatives you go and tell people that oldies and kids need to work for their bread
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HypnoCoosh posted...

If you're getting free money because you "can't afford to eat" you should not be using those funds to buy soda and Doritos.

I spend a lot of money on luxuries because I can afford it.

Necessities > wants\luxuries ALWAYS.

SNAP benefits aren't enough for almost anyone on the program to survive on them exclusively. So even if you're right (hard to say, soda is pretty cheap, chips aren't) the issue is that people will still buy those things with their actual money... or in the case of this program, their real money and their remaining SNAP benefits

if you want to help with healthcare costs, then you need to ban sugar sweetened beverages from SNAP AND tax them. if you just want to cut SNAP beneifts to people you consider unworthy, just cut SNAP by limiting eligibility. this program is dumb.
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HypnoCoosh posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

It is correct that you can't buy junk food with SNAP, right?

Soda and chips are in the top ten most things bought

yeah, the food buying habits of SNAP recipients mirror the general populace almost exactly
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Food stamp fraud definitely exists. It is a mostly separate issue from whether or not people use their SNAP benefits 'well' though
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Man I don't get how someone can defend such an obviously stupid idea that is also so open to graft and favoritism in contracting
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Anteaterking posted...

But it would be improper to try to use this data set to say "Men are just better at earning money than women".

What is the alternative?
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s0nicfan posted...

EDIT: And since I should probably reiterate this as others are jumping in on the convo, I fully support government funding of the CPB, and agree that removing it is objectively bad for the country.

I actually do not feel this way, tbqh

it is a totally acceptable thing to cut

the issue I always have is what else we are funding in order to cut it

it is frankly embarrassing to cut it when you're not even saving enough money to shrink the deficit in a decade long window

imho
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s0nicfan posted...

I read that PBS is only partially funded by CPB and that even total elimination of it wouldn't result in PBS being eliminated.

are you intentionally moving the goalposts or are you just contrarian enough that you are doing this on accident?

cutting PBS =/= eliminating PBS
but eliminating CPB is consistent with 'cutting CPB funds' -- and a total elimination of CPB funds is the same thing as cuts to PBS and NPR, considering that some portion of the CPB budget goes towards those things
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s0nicfan posted...

No, but this is a good example of where the news is doing itself a disservice but saying something sort of untrue to hype up something that is bad enough on its own. They could have said "Trump budget cutting funding to CPB" and that would be 100% true, 100% bad, and leave no room for real debate. Instead, they half-lied by assuming that CPB cuts would lead to PBS cuts so they could specifically reference PBS to make it look worse. There's no reason to make shit up in this case.

they aren't making shit up bro, you have a poor understanding of this issue though so it is obviously true they could have done better reporting to explain it

OTOH as noted in the article it eliminates CPB funding so you could just be wrong because you didnt read it
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also, it eliminates CPB funding so it definitely cuts into pbs and npr regardless of budgetary choices lol
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s0nicfan posted...

I have no idea why PBS is always on the chopping block. I get that it's only partially funded by the government anyway, but it's just such bad PR.

Although in this case it looks like what he's cutting is funding to the CPB which funds multiple things, one of which could be PBS if they had to make cuts, so it's not like he's specifically going after big bird.

do you think there is a way to directly make cuts to PBS or NPR? the CPB grants to the national branches as well as local offices. there isn't a 'pbs' line item in the budget to cut
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Antifar posted...

Nobody gives one ounce of a shit about the debt, and nor should they. GOP concern over the debt and deficit was always a reverse-engineered explanation for their opposition to Democratic programs, which tend to involve more government spending.

Likewise, any Democrat who suddenly cares about the deficit is doing their own cause a disservice.

yeesh totally

why don't we just lower taxes to zero and increase spending at the same time, it won't matter
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but Trump not caring about budget deficits isn't mutually exclusive with the idea that he's using the budget proposal to set up a bargaining table

in fact the explosion of the deficit even in his proposed budget is an important aspect of setting his priorities
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fuckin late stage capitalism
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Bullet_Wing posted...

https://mobile.twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/963100104357040130

BREAKING: Trump budget calls for ACA repeal and gutting Medicaid. It slashes health care by $675 billionfar more than the $230 billion CBO estimated for Graham-Cassidy repeal.

LMFAO! This is DOA in Congress. Trump is a fucking moron, as his Secretary of State says.

it is pretty impressive that the deficit could explode so much even with that proposal in the budget

it is too long for me to read through tbh
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that's pretty old school
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CruelBuffalo posted...

Would be good to see how this would change for single women and single men though idk if Uber has that information on its riders. Because for taxes you may be single, but you could still be living with someone/dating

that was also my thought on the unpaid household labor bit tbh
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Darkman124 posted...

Balrog0 posted...

why dont you run

https://statisticalatlas.com/state-upper-legislative-district/Maryland/District-45/Race-and-Ethnicity

also i have no experience and he's been a rep longer than i've had hair on my penis

you had at me demographic composition
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why dont you run
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I don't even support 'pitbull bans' or anything like that, so I don't see how I am in a frenzy about it. I can just see the bare facts in front of my face without retreating into some kind of weird epistemic position where formal dog breed as defined by the AKA or whatever is the meaningful thing we're talking about here

it is even worse than gun control debates about 'assault weapons'
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Cal12 posted...

There are quite a lot of sources that you can pull date from actually. A lot of states track dog bites, particularly those reported by hospitals. They just choose not to.

there are no state databases that track the breed of the dog that bites. of course there are databases for animal control/crime reports that record whether or not a dog bit someone. that isn't the same thing.

Cal12 posted...

Why would a news source be reliable for dog bite data? The lack of pictures of the dog(s) involved? The lack of analysis? The conjecture? The ease of getting people like yourself into a frenzy over the terrible devil dogs that must be eradicated from the planet cause the news is always right?

why do you think a state database would solve these problems?
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Taharqa_ posted...

More like folks tired of misinformation and ignorance. If I had a dollar for every time someone called my Cane Corso a Pit Bull I'd be able to buy another vehicle.

yeah this is pretty much the only defense of pitbulls that works

I just don't understand what the point of it is

'people are stupid, it isn't pitbulls [which isn't the formal name of a breed in the first place],it is the entire category of mastiffs/molossers!'

ok, so you're saying we should be getting rid of a wider range of dogs?
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SK8T3R215 posted...

Isn't it weird that pitbull have a disproportionate amount of terrible owners than other dog breeds to explain all of their violent tendencies?

how do we know that? are you sure you're not just being prejudiced yourself, and/or biased by media portrayals?

dog ownership is even harder to track than dog bites..
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Cal12 posted...

that collect data from erroneous sources like news sites rather than state by state data bases and the like without actually finding out the breed of the dog. Quite often attacks are mislabeled as pitbull attacks when its another breed of dog.

you realize that news reports are the only source of info for something like this, right? you are seriously mistaken if you think there are 'state by state data bases' that tabulate the breed of dogs that bite
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it is pretty weird the lengths people will go to attempt to refute this fact
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but yeah I mean if youre poor and need to eat you might spend that money on poor quality food like mcdonalds instead! like a monster
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byrone posted...

MrPeppers posted...

byrone posted...

@MrPeppers posted...

NY Post. Whatever. It's not from medical literature, and that's fine. I'll read t when I get time. Chill.

Not being able to pay is more financial than medical.

I can't wait to see the medical literature that you post that says "most people pass on medical care to buy junk food instead"

Haha, I'm not holding any promises so if you want to do your little victory jig you might as well start. But we'll see if I can't find something

You're not holding any promises because it's bullshit and you made it up.

yes, the fact that people forego or defer treatment and medicine due to cost is one of the most well-studied facts of health insurance that I know of tbqh

I am more than happy to provide sources

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1202099
Medicaid expansions were associated with a significant reduction in adjusted all-cause mortality (by 19.6 deaths per 100,000 adults, for a relative reduction of 6.1%; P=0.001). Mortality reductions were greatest among older adults, nonwhites, and residents of poorer counties. Expansions increased Medicaid coverage (by 2.2 percentage points, for a relative increase of 24.7%; P=0.01), decreased rates of uninsurance (by 3.2 percentage points, for a relative reduction of 14.7%; P<0.001), decreased rates of delayed care because of costs (by 2.9 percentage points, for a relative reduction of 21.3%; P=0.002), and increased rates of self-reported health status of excellent or very good (by 2.2 percentage points, for a relative increase of 3.4%; P=0.04).

there is also 'gray literature' on this:
https://www.jpmorganchase.com/corporate/institute/document/institute-tax-refunds-healthcare-report.pdf

this indicates that health spending increases by ~60% after tax returns come in, with most of that coming in the form of in-person payments to providers (i.e., people going to the doctor who wouldn't otherwise due to a big influx of cash)

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2017/apr/how-medicaid-enrollees-fare

Those with Medicaid were also significantly less likely to report skipping needed services in the past year because of the cost of care than adults who were privately insured or uninsured (Exhibit 5). Differences between adults with Medicaid coverage and those with private insurance were statistically significant and the gaps were sometimes substantial. For example, privately insured adults reported skipping a recommended medical treatment, test, or follow-up visit because of the cost at rates more than twice as high as those for Medicaid enrollees (17% vs. 7%).

https://www.kff.org/health-costs/poll-finding/data-note-americans-challenges-with-health-care-costs/

Challenges affording care also result in some Americans saying they have delayed or skipped care due to costs in the past year, including 27 percent who say they have put off or postponed getting health care they needed, 23 percent who say they have skipped a recommended medical test or treatment, and 21 percent who say they have not filled a prescription for a medicine.
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I enjoy this topic
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prettyprincess posted...

Epic-Vegan_420 posted...

???

the more interesting and engaging titles place their focus on their unique ability for interactive and visual storytelling respectively

developing that also requiring 'writing' in the same kind of sense movies and TV do btw

it is just judged by an obviously different standard since it isnt a 20 min - 3 hour experience with no interactivity...
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