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BipBapBam posted...

Yeah, sure it's literally just me that thinks Echoes has trash gameplay, it's not a common opinion at all

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/204447-fire-emblem-heroes/78544958

And I guess sorry for actually explaining my opinion when the TC asked instead of just drive by shitting on the game and calling it a day lmao?

This is the only place on the internet where Ive seen people go to bat for Echoes this much. Its not just you. Like all corners of the internet consider it to have awful gameplay. Some guys here just like to be the contrarian so much they dont realize how goofy they look.

Doom_Art posted...

what

i said i enjoyed the movie but wouldn't hold it against someone for giving it a low score since it was shot and edited pretty poorly

That user likes to imagine things in his head and claim it actually happened. Just ignore him.

Guns_of_Verdun posted...

They're not inflated. They're the average.

Even so as I said: Granted these are average playtimes and of course if it's a repeat playthrough of a game you already know for a challenge, then you're moving quickly. But factoring in sleep and gameplay repetition it's not gonna be that easy.

As I said MGS4 alone has 11 hours of cutscenes where no matter how fast you do the gameplay, that's still half the day gone.

I think you're underestimating it. Doing that in succession in one week. It is a challenge.

Saying "Well I can do that in 20 hours! and that in 8 hours! And that in 11 hours!" and then actually sitting there and doing it are different things.

Especially considering the only game he used a guide for was Metal Gear 1. I think practicing or looking up speed strats kinda defeats the heart of the challenge.

Dude even fought The End in MGS3.

Its only a challenge if you have a job. Otherwise, not really. The average person is awful at stealth games. Thats not really the best indicator. If someone knows how to play MGS, then they shouldnt be taking 12 hours on most of these games. Not at all. MGS1 can be done in 6 hours if youve played the game and know where to go. I say this because I just replayed MGS1 a few months ago and beat it in a single night while playing casually.

Also, Im not sure why you keep saying MGS4 has 11 hours of cutscenes. You can actually beat the entire game within 11 hours. The actually length for the number of cutscenes including codecs and talking during gameplay comes out to about 9 hours. It feels like youre kind of exaggerating how long these games actually are. As someone who has replayed the entire series recently, most of these games arent long at all aside from The Phantom Pain. You dont really feel the gameplay repetition much either jumping from one game to the next. The gameplay loop is good enough to where it doesnt suffer in that aspect.

If I could no life video games for an entire week then this wouldnt be very difficult especially if I was getting paid through YouTube or Twitch to stream this? Money is going to motivate you a lot.

Some of those times are heavily inflated. You can beat MGS1 in about 7-8 hours. Same with MGS2 and MGS3. You can finish The Phantom Pain in 20 hours if you wanted to.