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Blue_Inigo 02/21/23 1:54:21 PM #1:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/5/AAaaLFAAENH_.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/6/AAaaLFAAENIA.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/7/AAaaLFAAENIB.jpg I should really play Echoes one of these days --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:971713900] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/5/AAaaLFAAENH_.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/6/AAaaLFAAENIA.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/7/AAaaLFAAENIB.jpg I should really play Echoes one of these days</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BipBapBam 02/21/23 1:55:19 PM #2:	Blue_Inigo posted... I should really play Echoes one of these days You're better off not doing that tbh. Absolute garbage game if you care at all about actual gameplay. Just admire Celica's hotness from afar. --- Regardless of warnings, the future doesn't scare me at all. This is where the fun begins. <cite>BipBapBam posted [p:971713919] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite><quote>I should really play Echoes one of these days</quote>You're better off not doing that tbh. Absolute garbage game if you care at all about actual gameplay. Just admire Celica's hotness from afar.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 02/21/23 1:59:22 PM #3:	BipBapBam posted... You're better off not doing that tbh. Absolute garbage game if you care at all about actual gameplay. Just admire Celica's hotness from afar. Some of the series best music though --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:971714003] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>BipBapBam posted... </cite><quote>You're better off not doing that tbh. Absolute garbage game if you care at all about actual gameplay. Just admire Celica's hotness from afar.</quote>Some of the series best music though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 02/21/23 2:00:54 PM #4:	BipBapBam posted... You're better off not doing that tbh. Absolute garbage game if you care at all about actual gameplay. Just admire Celica's hotness from afar. Damn. Worse than Fates?! I hardly hear anyone talk about Echoes --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:971714040] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>BipBapBam posted... </cite><quote>You're better off not doing that tbh. Absolute garbage game if you care at all about actual gameplay. Just admire Celica's hotness from afar.</quote>Damn. Worse than Fates?! I hardly hear anyone talk about Echoes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aitz 02/21/23 2:05:56 PM #5:	Woah --- Fire Emblem Heroes: 1691818076 Target: Get all Celicas to +10 Yugioh Master Duels ID: 929-965-925 Genshin Impact UID: Lol, not putting it on my signature <cite>Aitz posted [p:971714158] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Woah</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BipBapBam 02/21/23 2:06:52 PM #6:	Blue_Inigo posted... Damn. Worse than Fates?! I hardly hear anyone talk about Echoes Waaaaaay worse. Fates isn't even bad gameplay wise outside of Revelation which is mostly because the maps are shit. Birthright is just a better Awakening and Conquest has some of the best gameplay in the series. Fates gets shit on for its characters and story (which still aren't any good in Echoes either lmao) --- Regardless of warnings, the future doesn't scare me at all. This is where the fun begins. <cite>BipBapBam posted [p:971714176] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite><quote>Damn. Worse than Fates?! I hardly hear anyone talk about Echoes</quote>Waaaaaay worse. Fates isn't even bad gameplay wise outside of Revelation which is mostly because the maps are shit. Birthright is just a better Awakening and Conquest has some of the best gameplay in the series. Fates gets shit on for its characters and story (which still aren't any good in Echoes either lmao)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 02/21/23 2:07:12 PM #7:	Aitz posted... Woah A Celica fan I see. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/6/1/AAaaLFAAENIZ.jpg --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:971714186] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Aitz posted... </cite><quote>Woah</quote>A Celica fan I see. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/6/1/AAaaLFAAENIZ.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aitz 02/21/23 2:07:17 PM #8:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/6/2/AAbfl3AAENIa.jpg --- Fire Emblem Heroes: 1691818076 Target: Get all Celicas to +10 Yugioh Master Duels ID: 929-965-925 Genshin Impact UID: Lol, not putting it on my signature <cite>Aitz posted [p:971714187] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/6/2/AAbfl3AAENIa.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aitz 02/21/23 2:08:23 PM #9:	Blue_Inigo posted... A Celica fan I see. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/6/1/AAaaLFAAENIZ.jpg Hell yeah. I am known as a crazy Celica fan on the Fire Emblem boards too --- Fire Emblem Heroes: 1691818076 Target: Get all Celicas to +10 Yugioh Master Duels ID: 929-965-925 Genshin Impact UID: Lol, not putting it on my signature <cite>Aitz posted [p:971714207] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite><quote>A Celica fan I see. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/6/1/AAaaLFAAENIZ.jpg</quote>Hell yeah. I am known as a crazy Celica fan on the Fire Emblem boards too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BipBapBam 02/21/23 2:11:04 PM #10:	Aitz posted... Hell yeah. I am known as a crazy Celica fan on the Fire Emblem boards too ~~And an even bigger Catria fan...!~~ --- Regardless of warnings, the future doesn't scare me at all. This is where the fun begins. <cite>BipBapBam posted [p:971714264] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Aitz posted... </cite><quote>Hell yeah. I am known as a crazy Celica fan on the Fire Emblem boards too</quote>And an even bigger Catria fan...!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aitz 02/21/23 2:11:56 PM #11:	~~Hell no~~ ~~Fuck Catria~~ --- Fire Emblem Heroes: 1691818076 Target: Get all Celicas to +10 Yugioh Master Duels ID: 929-965-925 Genshin Impact UID: Lol, not putting it on my signature <cite>Aitz posted [p:971714284] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Hell noFuck Catria</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 02/21/23 2:16:20 PM #12:	BipBapBam posted... Waaaaaay worse. Fates isn't even bad gameplay wise outside of Revelation which is mostly because the maps are shit. Birthright is just a better Awakening and Conquest has some of the best gameplay in the series. Fates gets shit on for its characters and story (which still aren't any good in Echoes either lmao) I like Fates mostly well enough so I agree on that. Is Echoes really that much of a step down? What's it doing wrong --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:971714376] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>BipBapBam posted... </cite><quote>Waaaaaay worse. Fates isn't even bad gameplay wise outside of Revelation which is mostly because the maps are shit. Birthright is just a better Awakening and Conquest has some of the best gameplay in the series. Fates gets shit on for its characters and story (which still aren't any good in Echoes either lmao)</quote>I like Fates mostly well enough so I agree on that. Is Echoes really that much of a step down? What's it doing wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 02/21/23 2:20:00 PM #13:	Blue_Inigo posted... Damn. Worse than Fates?! I hardly hear anyone talk about Echoes Do not listen to him. He speaks the words of the devil. Echoes is one of the better remakes. It keeps some of the mechanics from Gaiden which might throw off Awakening babies, but it's it makes up for it with additional QoL improvements and expands on the barebones story of the original into something genuinely entertaining. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:971714451] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite><quote>Damn. Worse than Fates?! I hardly hear anyone talk about Echoes</quote>Do not listen to him. He speaks the words of the devil.Echoes is one of the better remakes. It keeps some of the mechanics from Gaiden which might throw off Awakening babies, but it's it makes up for it with additional QoL improvements and expands on the barebones story of the original into something genuinely entertaining.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarthGoomba 02/21/23 2:20:17 PM #14:	Gaiden/Echoes maps and enemy layouts are very uninteresting, boring, just tedious --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg <cite>MarthGoomba posted [p:971714455] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Gaiden/Echoes maps and enemy layouts are very uninteresting, boring, just tedious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 02/21/23 2:23:55 PM #15:	I unironically want her to be playable in Smash. Blue_Inigo posted... Damn. Worse than Fates?! I hardly hear anyone talk about Echoes Probably because it's a remake of the second-ever FE game and--despite its QoL improvements--still carries a lot of the baggage that the original game had. Personally, I enjoyed it, and chose to buy it over Fates once I started getting an income again. Plus, some of it's features got implemented into later games (free-roam areas, the Turn wheel feature, fully-voiced dialogue). --- 11/8/2022 - The day the Blue Wall intercepted the Red Wave. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:971714509] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>I unironically want her to be playable in Smash.Blue_Inigo posted... </cite><quote>Damn. Worse than Fates?! I hardly hear anyone talk about Echoes</quote>Probably because it's a remake of the second-ever FE game and--despite its QoL improvements--still carries a lot of the baggage that the original game had.Personally, I enjoyed it, and chose to buy it over Fates once I started getting an income again. Plus, some of it's features got implemented into later games (free-roam areas, the Turn wheel feature, fully-voiced dialogue).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BipBapBam 02/21/23 2:25:33 PM #16:	Blue_Inigo posted... I like Fates mostly well enough so I agree on that. Is Echoes really that much of a step down? What's it doing wrong I haven't touched it since beating it on release because it sucks so I'm sure I'll forget a ton of stuff, but off the top of my head No weapon triangle Alm's maps are all boring wide open fields with cavalry enemy spam Celica's maps are all swamps that greatly limit your movement There's a new annoying asshole enemy called a Cantor that is usually hiding behind a million other enemies every single map that does nothing but spawn a million more annoying enemies every turn until you kill them There's another stupid ass enemy called a Witch that can warp from any place on the map right next to any of your units to nuke them because everyone in this game has 0 Res Archers are absolutely fucking broken and can attack from like 5 spaces away. Goes for both you and the enemies ofc Extremely tedious dungeon crawling which feels cool for the first 5 mins until you realize you just do the same exact fight every time you run into an enemy Enemies spawn on the map constantly like in Sacred Stones which makes you again have to fight the exact same layout of enemies any time you wanna go to a shop or something The game has good presentation with its visuals, music and voice acting, but the gameplay is an actual chore and the only FE I had to force myself to finish and didn't even bother with the post game because of how unbelievably painful it was to play. --- Regardless of warnings, the future doesn't scare me at all. This is where the fun begins. <cite>BipBapBam posted [p:971714542] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite><quote>I like Fates mostly well enough so I agree on that. Is Echoes really that much of a step down? What's it doing wrong</quote>I haven't touched it since beating it on release because it sucks so I'm sure I'll forget a ton of stuff, but off the top of my headNo weapon triangleAlm's maps are all boring wide open fields with cavalry enemy spamCelica's maps are all swamps that greatly limit your movementThere's a new annoying asshole enemy called a Cantor that is usually hiding behind a million other enemies every single map that does nothing but spawn a million more annoying enemies every turn until you kill themThere's another stupid ass enemy called a Witch that can warp from any place on the map right next to any of your units to nuke them because everyone in this game has 0 ResArchers are absolutely fucking broken and can attack from like 5 spaces away. Goes for both you and the enemies ofcExtremely tedious dungeon crawling which feels cool for the first 5 mins until you realize you just do the same exact fight every time you run into an enemyEnemies spawn on the map constantly like in Sacred Stones which makes you again have to fight the exact same layout of enemies any time you wanna go to a shop or somethingThe game has good presentation with its visuals, music and voice acting, but the gameplay is an actual chore and the only FE I had to force myself to finish and didn't even bother with the post game because of how unbelievably painful it was to play.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 02/21/23 10:32:03 PM #17:	Ehhh that doesn't sound too bad. Might do it for her https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/2/AAaaLFAAENOq.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/3/AAaaLFAAENOr.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/4/AAaaLFAAENOs.jpg --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:971724150] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Ehhh that doesn't sound too bad. Might do it for her https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/2/AAaaLFAAENOq.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/3/AAaaLFAAENOr.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/4/AAaaLFAAENOs.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 02/21/23 10:43:44 PM #18:	BipBapBam posted... I haven't touched it since beating it on release because it sucks so I'm sure I'll forget a ton of stuff, but off the top of my head * No weapon triangle * Alm's maps are all boring wide open fields with cavalry enemy spam * Celica's maps are all swamps that greatly limit your movement * There's a new annoying asshole enemy called a Cantor that is usually hiding behind a million other enemies every single map that does nothing but spawn a million more annoying enemies every turn until you kill them * There's another stupid ass enemy called a Witch that can warp from any place on the map right next to any of your units to nuke them because everyone in this game has 0 Res * Archers are absolutely fucking broken and can attack from like 5 spaces away. Goes for both you and the enemies ofc * Extremely tedious dungeon crawling which feels cool for the first 5 mins until you realize you just do the same exact fight every time you run into an enemy * Enemies spawn on the map constantly like in Sacred Stones which makes you again have to fight the exact same layout of enemies any time you wanna go to a shop or something The game has good presentation with its visuals, music and voice acting, but the gameplay is an actual chore and the only FE I had to force myself to finish and didn't even bother with the post game because of how unbelievably painful it was to play. All of that sounds like a you problem. Echoes is fucking awesome and way better than garbage Fates. --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:971724327] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>BipBapBam posted... </cite><quote>I haven't touched it since beating it on release because it sucks so I'm sure I'll forget a ton of stuff, but off the top of my head* No weapon triangle* Alm's maps are all boring wide open fields with cavalry enemy spam* Celica's maps are all swamps that greatly limit your movement* There's a new annoying asshole enemy called a Cantor that is usually hiding behind a million other enemies every single map that does nothing but spawn a million more annoying enemies every turn until you kill them* There's another stupid ass enemy called a Witch that can warp from any place on the map right next to any of your units to nuke them because everyone in this game has 0 Res* Archers are absolutely fucking broken and can attack from like 5 spaces away. Goes for both you and the enemies ofc* Extremely tedious dungeon crawling which feels cool for the first 5 mins until you realize you just do the same exact fight every time you run into an enemy* Enemies spawn on the map constantly like in Sacred Stones which makes you again have to fight the exact same layout of enemies any time you wanna go to a shop or somethingThe game has good presentation with its visuals, music and voice acting, but the gameplay is an actual chore and the only FE I had to force myself to finish and didn't even bother with the post game because of how unbelievably painful it was to play.</quote>All of that sounds like a you problem. Echoes is fucking awesome and way better than garbage Fates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kircheis 02/21/23 10:54:39 PM #19:	Echoes is worth playing just for Leon, love that beautiful sassy man. Final boss theme is absolutely baller. I liked how it emphasized player phase over enemy phase. Gonna go against the grain here and say that I actually liked the map design, made it properly feel like two powerful armies were duking it out. Felt kind of refreshingly direct in its own way. --- Kratos will choke this point avatar by Hambo the Hog. <cite>Kircheis posted [p:971724480] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Echoes is worth playing just for Leon, love that beautiful sassy man. Final boss theme is absolutely baller. I liked how it emphasized player phase over enemy phase. Gonna go against the grain here and say that I actually liked the map design, made it properly feel like two powerful armies were duking it out. Felt kind of refreshingly direct in its own way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gildedwings 02/21/23 11:00:32 PM #20:	Echoes is fine. There are a lot of ways to cheese it if you just don't want to deal with the maps. I do agree they might've been too faithful to the original game with the gameplay. But it has a rewind feature if you mess up. --- Hope is the last thing to die. <cite>gildedwings posted [p:971724579] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Echoes is fine. There are a lot of ways to cheese it if you just don't want to deal with the maps. I do agree they might've been too faithful to the original game with the gameplay. But it has a rewind feature if you mess up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 02/21/23 11:03:18 PM #21:	Blue_Inigo posted... Damn. Worse than Fates?! I hardly hear anyone talk about Echoes Echoes is better than fates imo --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. <cite>Smackems posted [p:971724608] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite><quote>Damn. Worse than Fates?! I hardly hear anyone talk about Echoes</quote>Echoes is better than fates imo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PBusted 02/22/23 2:52:31 AM #22:	LordFarquad1312 posted... All of that sounds like a you problem. Echoes is fucking awesome and way better than garbage Fates. Gaiden having the worst maps in the franchise is the general consensus and Echoes is very faithful to it for better or for worse. Echoes has much better writing, dialogue, worldbuilding and overall presentation than Fates but the gameplay is on opposite ends with Fates. This isn't him, this is the popular opinion, although finding it a painful chore is a bit much. <cite>PBusted posted [p:971727238] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>LordFarquad1312 posted... </cite><quote>All of that sounds like a you problem. Echoes is fucking awesome and way better than garbage Fates.</quote>Gaiden having the worst maps in the franchise is the general consensus and Echoes is very faithful to it for better or for worse. Echoes has much better writing, dialogue, worldbuilding and overall presentation than Fates but the gameplay is on opposite ends with Fates. This isn't him, this is the popular opinion, although finding it a painful chore is a bit much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Poorly 02/22/23 4:15:30 AM #23:	Celica is https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/5/0/AAfRsCAAENRm.jpg --- <cite>Poorly posted [p:971727777] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Celica is https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/5/0/AAfRsCAAENRm.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 02/22/23 4:56:10 AM #24:	Notice how it's one guy against some kind of a crusade against Echoes No Weapon Triangle: yes, the mechanic that historically always resulted in lances being by far the best weapon type Alm map being open with cav enemies: who cares? There are forest tiles that you essentially have to plant your army at, positioned in a way where you have the advantage when they charge at you, not the other way around like with Fates or Engage where most of the time you have to be the one to dive into the danger, and you hope that your army just has enough stats to deal with it. See how one is not particularly strategically better than the other? They just require different things and yet you're here pointing it out like it's a bad thing. Swamp: Yes, they're annoying. But Echoes don't really have long chs, and there aren't more than 2 main maps that are swamps or at least ones that cause lengthy periods of 0 combat Cantor: You can either use warp or have high str killer bow users as bows have insane range. There are Cantors that are well protected. But it's just one more type of obstacles that the game should throw at you. Annoying? Sometimes, but I don't see it being a negative, because it's doing what SRPGs should do, which is not to just make it a glorified turn based RPG. It puts obstacles on the board for you to deal with. Wtiches: There was a vid analyzing Witch AI. The conclusion was that they have really bad stats, and it's statistically very low chance of losing a unit unless you hung your completely untrained unit in the back. They only target outer layer units and will actually never target a unit if another friendly unit is in front of them, and they also always teleport to the back of your army. If you're not gonna use that unit, you might as well just bench them, unless you like doing 1 dmg. Also them teleporting bh you and only attacking the outer layer is an observation I even made b4 people looked into it. Archers: Yeah both side have this, and they do get penalty for aiming further. Also they're a great way to deal with canters. I don't see this as a negative either and you didn't really type it as a negative Dungeons: I'm mixed on it too, but I think it's a different take that gets really interesting later on in the optional dungeons. Also you can run from a lot of it. Also I'm a fan of the commentary Alm/Celica gives mid exploration Enemies on the map: Except for a few that are intended for the player to go through, you can actually retreat and avoid all of these battles I believe. Post game was also one of the best post game content an FE has had, so it's a shame you'll never experience it. It's when the dungeon battles get really nail biting, especially since you start to run out of charges. The final fight is a bit of a pushover, but the context of the fight is more important as it connects to another FE game. I feel like you were stretching for some of these points as honestly a lot of them aren't negatives. They're just like... SRPG mechanics. If you had nothing in your way, it's just a turn based RPG. It's basically what Awakening would be, where there's basically nothing stopping you at one point and Nosferatu and good enough stats just let you put a guy in the middle of the map and solo it. Instead of that, why would you not prefer a game that actually makes you use formation, park units at the right time, spread them out so the right units can reach the right enemies? FE has plenty of games where you just send out a juggernaut and win. It's technically possible to solo the game with Alm and Celica, but it's an incredibly inefficient strat that takes a billion turns, makes you miss out on a ton of items, and also relies on a lot of RNG. Also post game is nearly impossible solo. --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo https://i.imgur.com/krtFHol.jpg <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:971728039] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Notice how it's one guy against some kind of a crusade against EchoesNo Weapon Triangle: yes, the mechanic that historically always resulted in lances being by far the best weapon typeAlm map being open with cav enemies: who cares? There are forest tiles that you essentially have to plant your army at, positioned in a way where you have the advantage when they charge at you, not the other way around like with Fates or Engage where most of the time you have to be the one to dive into the danger, and you hope that your army just has enough stats to deal with it. See how one is not particularly strategically better than the other? They just require different things and yet you're here pointing it out like it's a bad thing.Swamp: Yes, they're annoying. But Echoes don't really have long chs, and there aren't more than 2 main maps that are swamps or at least ones that cause lengthy periods of 0 combatCantor: You can either use warp or have high str killer bow users as bows have insane range. There are Cantors that are well protected. But it's just one more type of obstacles that the game should throw at you. Annoying? Sometimes, but I don't see it being a negative, because it's doing what SRPGs should do, which is not to just make it a glorified turn based RPG. It puts obstacles on the board for you to deal with.Wtiches: There was a vid analyzing Witch AI. The conclusion was that they have really bad stats, and it's statistically very low chance of losing a unit unless you hung your completely untrained unit in the back. They only target outer layer units and will actually never target a unit if another friendly unit is in front of them, and they also always teleport to the back of your army. If you're not gonna use that unit, you might as well just bench them, unless you like doing 1 dmg. Also them teleporting bh you and only attacking the outer layer is an observation I even made b4 people looked into it.Archers: Yeah both side have this, and they do get penalty for aiming further. Also they're a great way to deal with canters. I don't see this as a negative either and you didn't really type it as a negative Dungeons: I'm mixed on it too, but I think it's a different take that gets really interesting later on in the optional dungeons. Also you can run from a lot of it. Also I'm a fan of the commentary Alm/Celica gives mid explorationEnemies on the map: Except for a few that are intended for the player to go through, you can actually retreat and avoid all of these battles I believe. Post game was also one of the best post game content an FE has had, so it's a shame you'll never experience it. It's when the dungeon battles get really nail biting, especially since you start to run out of charges. The final fight is a bit of a pushover, but the context of the fight is more important as it connects to another FE game.I feel like you were stretching for some of these points as honestly a lot of them aren't negatives. They're just like... SRPG mechanics. If you had nothing in your way, it's just a turn based RPG. It's basically what Awakening would be, where there's basically nothing stopping you at one point and Nosferatu and good enough stats just let you put a guy in the middle of the map and solo it. Instead of that, why would you not prefer a game that actually makes you use formation, park units at the right time, spread them out so the right units can reach the right enemies? FE has plenty of games where you just send out a juggernaut and win. It's technically possible to solo the game with Alm and Celica, but it's an incredibly inefficient strat that takes a billion turns, makes you miss out on a ton of items, and also relies on a lot of RNG. Also post game is nearly impossible solo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BipBapBam 02/22/23 5:25:34 AM #25:	Yeah, sure it's literally just me that thinks Echoes has trash gameplay, it's not a common opinion at all https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/204447-fire-emblem-heroes/78544958 legendarylemur posted... Notice how it's one guy against some kind of a crusade against Echoes And I guess sorry for actually explaining my opinion when the TC asked instead of just drive by shitting on the game and calling it a day lmao? --- Regardless of warnings, the future doesn't scare me at all. This is where the fun begins. <cite>BipBapBam posted [p:971728250] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, sure it's literally just me that thinks Echoes has trash gameplay, it's not a common opinion at allhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/204447-fire-emblem-heroes/78544958legendarylemur posted... </cite><quote>Notice how it's one guy against some kind of a crusade against Echoes</quote>And I guess sorry for actually explaining my opinion when the TC asked instead of just drive by shitting on the game and calling it a day lmao?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PBusted 02/22/23 5:32:45 AM #28:	BipBapBam posted... Yeah, sure it's literally just me that thinks Echoes has trash gameplay, it's not a common opinion at all https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/204447-fire-emblem-heroes/78544958 And I guess sorry for actually explaining my opinion when the TC asked instead of just drive by shitting on the game and calling it a day lmao? He just seems to have an affinity for open maps. He praises Awakening and Genealogy's maps too when they're notoriously criticized among the community while he shits on Conquest "chokepoint" maps despite those being lauded. <cite>PBusted posted [p:971728296] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>BipBapBam posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, sure it's literally just me that thinks Echoes has trash gameplay, it's not a common opinion at allhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/204447-fire-emblem-heroes/78544958And I guess sorry for actually explaining my opinion when the TC asked instead of just drive by shitting on the game and calling it a day lmao?</quote>He just seems to have an affinity for open maps. He praises Awakening and Genealogy's maps too when they're notoriously criticized among the community while he shits on Conquest "chokepoint" maps despite those being lauded. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeLikeItHoth 02/22/23 5:58:01 AM #29:	Yall tell me which Fire Emblem to play after I beat Engage in a week or two. Ive already played Three Houses twice so not that one. --- FAM FOREVER. \| https://imgur.com/cGrHeeU.jpg <cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted [p:971728434] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Yall tell me which Fire Emblem to play after I beat Engage in a week or two. Ive already played Three Houses twice so not that one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dotsdfe 02/22/23 6:02:41 AM #30:	SomeLikeItHoth posted... Yall tell me which Fire Emblem to play after I beat Engage in a week or two. Ive already played Three Houses twice so not that one. Thracia. Why? Because it's funny. --- https://www.youtube.com/user/dotsdfe I make Fire Emblem videos. Sometimes. <cite>dotsdfe posted [p:971728453] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>SomeLikeItHoth posted... </cite><quote>Yall tell me which Fire Emblem to play after I beat Engage in a week or two. Ive already played Three Houses twice so not that one.</quote>Thracia. Why? Because it's funny. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeLikeItHoth 02/22/23 6:32:56 AM #31:	dotsdfe posted... Thracia. Why? Because it's funny. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/8/8/AATc28AAD9lg.jpg --- FAM FOREVER. \| https://imgur.com/cGrHeeU.jpg <cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted [p:971728654] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>dotsdfe posted... </cite><quote>Thracia. Why? Because it's funny.</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/8/8/AATc28AAD9lg.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Apocalyptic 02/22/23 6:38:24 AM #32:	BipBapBam posted... Yeah, sure it's literally just me that thinks Echoes has trash gameplay, it's not a common opinion at all https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/204447-fire-emblem-heroes/78544958 And I guess sorry for actually explaining my opinion when the TC asked instead of just drive by shitting on the game and calling it a day lmao? This is the only place on the internet where Ive seen people go to bat for Echoes this much. Its not just you. Like all corners of the internet consider it to have awful gameplay. Some guys here just like to be the contrarian so much they dont realize how goofy they look. --- ... <cite>Apocalyptic posted [p:971728701] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>BipBapBam posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, sure it's literally just me that thinks Echoes has trash gameplay, it's not a common opinion at allhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/204447-fire-emblem-heroes/78544958And I guess sorry for actually explaining my opinion when the TC asked instead of just drive by shitting on the game and calling it a day lmao?</quote>This is the only place on the internet where Ive seen people go to bat for Echoes this much. Its not just you. Like all corners of the internet consider it to have awful gameplay. Some guys here just like to be the contrarian so much they dont realize how goofy they look. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar_the_1 02/22/23 6:41:57 AM #33:	I enjoyed Echoes a lot more than Awakening and Fate tbh --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar_the_1 posted [p:971728730] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>I enjoyed Echoes a lot more than Awakening and Fate tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 02/22/23 6:42:25 AM #34:	sigh Gotta go with my girl Lyn https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/7/AAGkrsAAENSL.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/8/AAGkrsAAENSM.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/9/AAGkrsAAENSN.jpg --- https://i.imgur.com/Y5Tq1gV.gif https://i.imgur.com/sgLkVQU.gif Joe Burrow, the legend <cite>WaterLink posted [p:971728735] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>sighGotta go with my girl Lynhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/7/AAGkrsAAENSL.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/8/AAGkrsAAENSM.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/9/AAGkrsAAENSN.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 02/22/23 5:12:56 PM #35:	She's getting her own topic soon --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:971739783] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>She's getting her own topic soon</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MJOLNRVII 02/22/23 5:15:37 PM #36:	SomeLikeItHoth posted... Yall tell me which Fire Emblem to play after I beat Engage in a week or two. Ive already played Three Houses twice so not that one. Path of Radiance. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/WBp3VHL.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/aGc8opg.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/tQBwJ35.gif <cite>MJOLNRVII posted [p:971739835] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>SomeLikeItHoth posted... </cite><quote>Yall tell me which Fire Emblem to play after I beat Engage in a week or two. Ive already played Three Houses twice so not that one.</quote>Path of Radiance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 02/22/23 5:16:33 PM #37:	I wanna play PoR but it's so old that I might hate it. Honestly the rewind feature has spoiled me --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:971739850] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>I wanna play PoR but it's so old that I might hate it. Honestly the rewind feature has spoiled me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimbos_Egg 02/22/23 5:16:56 PM #38:	do azura next. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/6/8/AAZ9hUAAENYI.jpg --- You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/OnEOsdT <cite>Kimbos_Egg posted [p:971739860] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>do azura next.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/6/8/AAZ9hUAAENYI.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
comicfire 02/22/23 5:23:03 PM #39:	Echoes is a dire slog of a game, easily my least favorite even though the presentation is top notch. Just save state every turn with the classics to replicate rewind --- But you can call me Erika~ <cite>comicfire posted [p:971739969] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Echoes is a dire slog of a game, easily my least favorite even though the presentation is top notch.Just save state every turn with the classics to replicate rewind</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 02/22/23 5:36:11 PM #40:	Blue_Inigo posted... I wanna play PoR but it's so old that I might hate it. Honestly the rewind feature has spoiled me Ive had a play through of that going on for two years? Maybe longer? I play it every once in a while and its a pain in the ass --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:971740197] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite><quote>I wanna play PoR but it's so old that I might hate it. Honestly the rewind feature has spoiled me</quote>Ive had a play through of that going on for two years? Maybe longer? I play it every once in a while and its a pain in the ass</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kircheis 02/22/23 5:52:36 PM #41:	PoR is super easy once you realize you're better off just throwing your mounted units at everything until you win. And train Ike for the final boss of course. --- Kratos will choke this point avatar by Hambo the Hog. <cite>Kircheis posted [p:971740496] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>PoR is super easy once you realize you're better off just throwing your mounted units at everything until you win. And train Ike for the final boss of course.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PBusted 02/22/23 5:57:09 PM #42:	I replayed Tellius recently and it is hyperbolically unplayable without speedup. It's easy to take for granted the QoL updates the newer games have. <cite>PBusted posted [p:971740580] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>I replayed Tellius recently and it is hyperbolically unplayable without speedup. It's easy to take for granted the QoL updates the newer games have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PBusted 02/24/23 5:14:04 AM #43:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/380177-fire-emblem-engage/80358595 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/7/8/AAYAPeAAENn6.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/1/AAdn_0AAENqJ.png <cite>PBusted posted [p:971772209] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/380177-fire-emblem-engage/80358595https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/7/8/AAYAPeAAENn6.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/1/AAdn_0AAENqJ.png</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aitz 02/24/23 5:41:15 AM #44:	Poorly posted... Celica is https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/5/0/AAfRsCAAENRm.jpg Your take is --- Fire Emblem Heroes: 1691818076 Target: Get all Celicas to +10 Yugioh Master Duels ID: 929-965-925 Genshin Impact UID: Lol, not putting it on my signature <cite>Aitz posted [p:971772381] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Poorly posted... </cite><quote>Celica is https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/5/0/AAfRsCAAENRm.jpg</quote>Your take is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 02/24/23 11:50:16 AM #45:	Echoes maps are flat out bad. They were already bad back in Gaiden, like a notable step back from FE1, and Echoes was too faithful in remaking them. The other gameplay changes are more personal preference, but the maps being shit is borderline objective. That said, I it's presentation is top notch. So I say it's still worth a try. Blue_Inigo posted... I wanna play PoR but it's so old that I might hate it. Honestly the rewind feature has spoiled me Path of Radiance is honestly so easy that you won't really miss not having Turnwheels. The most dated piece of it is its combat presentation, which leaves a lot to be desired. The biggest issue is it's painfully slow. Even with animations turned off things just take forever. It's also pretty ugly and the battle screen doesn't present combat data like the rest of the series. Thankfully, if you are playing on your official Nintendo PC, you can speed all that up. That said, Tellius has probably the best overall world building of the series, one of the few stories in the series I consider good, straightforward gameplay, and the Base Camp feature is so so so much better than My Castle, the Monastery or Somniel. Absolutely worth playing. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:971777396] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>Echoes maps are flat out bad. They were already bad back in Gaiden, like a notable step back from FE1, and Echoes was too faithful in remaking them. The other gameplay changes are more personal preference, but the maps being shit is borderline objective. That said, I it's presentation is top notch. So I say it's still worth a try.Blue_Inigo posted... </cite><quote>I wanna play PoR but it's so old that I might hate it. Honestly the rewind feature has spoiled me</quote>Path of Radiance is honestly so easy that you won't really miss not having Turnwheels. The most dated piece of it is its combat presentation, which leaves a lot to be desired. The biggest issue is it's painfully slow. Even with animations turned off things just take forever. It's also pretty ugly and the battle screen doesn't present combat data like the rest of the series. Thankfully, if you are playing on your official Nintendo PC, you can speed all that up. That said, Tellius has probably the best overall world building of the series, one of the few stories in the series I consider good, straightforward gameplay, and the Base Camp feature is so so so much better than My Castle, the Monastery or Somniel. Absolutely worth playing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FatAnimeBooty 02/24/23 11:50:49 AM #46:	I've played a bit of Echoes, it's really strange <cite>FatAnimeBooty posted [p:971777406] in Fire Emble... [t:80355944]...</cite> <quote>I've played a bit of Echoes, it's really strange</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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