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I'm game. Dunno if I'll be playing it enough to keep up, but this is one I've been very much waiting for. What's the monetization model like? I'm seeing it's free with IAP's on Xbone, plus you need a Gold subscription to play it online. What's the PC version going to look like in that regard?

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Between Animal Crossing and the whole lockdown thing (which Animal Crossing is extremely good for), Switches have been selling very well the past few months. I don't think this is in any way an artificial shortage so much as it is a major spike in demand, to say nothing of the impact the pandemic has had on manufacturing.

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Zeus posted...

She used Japanese pop culture to produce entertainment for Japan.

adjl posted...

There's an argument to be made that the video was produced for Japan more so than for a Western audience, which would make that statement untrue

Oh hey look at that.

Zeus posted...

The only objection seems to be that she's white, which is racist at best.

More accurately, it relies on the assumption that all of her music is produced for a Western audience. If this was produced for Japanese more so than Western audiences, that assumption is incorrect and the position falls apart.

Zeus posted...

More importantly, the definition concerns the "inappropriate adoption" of culture. The core objection in culturally appropriation has generally concerned the misuse of traditional concepts. rather than pop culture.

Personally, I think assigning such connotations to it is a bad idea, compared to letting the term itself be more vague and relying on context, intent, and other nuances to determine whether the example in question is actually objectionable. One of the primary issues with the term is that it's so often used without elaborating on why it's a bad thing, which renders it largely meaningless to anyone that doesn't already agree with the sentiment.

Simply, "Is this cultural appropriation?" is a question that will have different answers depending on how people interpret the concept. "Is it bad to appropriate this piece of culture like this?", by comparison, is a question that fosters discussion and sharing of opinions based on the nuance of the scenario at hand (see: the parts of your conversation with me that aren't focusing on the term "cultural appropriation"), relying only on the simple dictionary definition of "appropriation" to limit misinterpretation. Much more sensible.

Yellow posted...

I can sit here and talk about how tourism has destroyed Hawaii's culture and no one would object, because it's a real topic I've heard firsthand from a Hawaiian native, but if I started talking about how we culturally appropriated a grass skirt then everyone's going to treat me like a PETA member... probably for good reason, because I'm watering down the concept of racism to apply to fashion sense. There are very few people who actually believe in cultural appropriation and very few that would find it convincing.

As much as it affects people's response to what you're saying, what you call it doesn't actually change what it is. You can say that you don't want to throw on a grass skirt and go to a luau because you don't like what tourism has done to Hawaii's culture and don't want to participate in that, and while you won't get nearly the same reaction from angry anti-SJW types, you are saying you don't want to appropriate their culture for your own entertainment.

deoxxys posted...

Discouraging people from participating in a culture just because they have the wrong skin color is the very embodiment of GATEKEEPING.

I personally treat it less like discouraging people from participating in a culture and more making an effort to be aware and considerate of how that culture is treated by myself and others. As long as you're being considerate and making a genuine effort to understand where the material is coming from, I don't see a problem with it.

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BeerOnTap posted...

Because the purpose of these orders was to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That's it. And they accomplished that.

They *have* accomplished that. That accomplishment is not permanent until enough of the population is immune to the virus that new cases can be expected to emerge at a manageable rate. The potential still exists for hospitals to be overwhelmed if the virus' spread isn't moderated, so it's still important to moderate the spread of the virus, a process which entails continuing to keep people from gathering in large crowds.

It's safe to start easing up on restrictions once active case numbers decline to a certain point, but until there's been a working vaccine administered to a sizable portion of the population, it's not going to be safe to lift all restrictions. Do that, and you'll just see another surge in cases like the one that prompted the first lockdown, only this time it's going to be even harder to control it because people are going to be much more resistant to being locked down for a second time.

LinkPizza posted...

Who said it would necessarily start there? Or that anything would happen at the bar. It's possible everybody in the bar would be fine. It's possible none of them had it.

Oh sure. There are never guarantees when dealing with something like this. It's nonetheless risky, though. That's the nature of risk.

LinkPizza posted...

As for prematurely, when is it not premature?

When active case rates drop below whatever is deemed to be an appropriate critical level for a given population density level, as recommended by public health officials. Generally speaking, recommendations from medical professionals are significantly more cautious than what the public (and, by extension, politicians) are happy with, which means the decision to reopen is often going to be premature by medical standards.

LinkPizza posted...

Barely. It helps a little. But doesn't really fix the isolation. You're still isolated for the most part.

It's not as good as actually seeing people, no, but it's a whole lot better than actual isolation, and does a lot to mitigate the potential harm.

LinkPizza posted...

The only one that helps more is meeting with someone face to face. But having to stay 6 feet away from them is even worse...

Particularly with the weather being nice enough to do outside stuff, maintaining the 6' distance isn't that bad. Cuts down on meetings of a more intimate sort for couples that don't cohabitate, which does suck, but it's not the end of the world and it's only temporary.

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blu posted...

Is there a word for apathy but like you're interested but okay most of the outcomes from the situation so wouldn't mind just rolling a dice or focusing attention elsewhere?

I believe "ambivalent" fits that purpose quite nicely. I usually preface it with "largely" when I use it in such contexts, which contributes basically no semantic content but adds enough syllables to seem less flippantly dismissive in my eyes (while also being technically more accurate because there generally are outcomes and options I would rather avoid but that aren't likely enough to be worth explicitly ruling out).

ChaosAzeroth posted...

Some people also call depressed people lazy too though. Or people with 'invisible' physical disabilities. Seems to be something that gets thrown out a lot. So I guess I don't fully trust lazy claims at face value tbf.

This is very true. Avolition is a major symptom for quite a few different mental disorders, and it's often more socially acceptable (especially for men) to accept a label of "lazy" than to cite anxiety, depression, or invisible physical pain as a reason for avoiding the activity. It's tempting to jump right to calling people lazy, but in many cases that is itself lazy because there's often a deeper cause if you're willing to dig further into it.

Revelation34 posted...

Washing a dish in cold water isn't that bad.

It's certainly not Hitler territory, but it is generally less sanitary and doesn't get stuff as clean as using hot water would. In some ways, it's almost less lazy because you usually need to do more scrubbing to get a given mess off with cold water than hot, meaning it's really more stupid than lazy.

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CharlesBronson posted...

grow a pair. Look, we get it. Your afraid of guns. Do you sit to pee too?

Lol.

zebatov posted...

Maybe if it actually hindered the people its supposed to, they wouldnt.

Realistically, there's no reason gun control has to involve unreasonable hindrance on people that are using them responsibly. The worst would be a need to lock them up when not in use (takes like two minutes) and a waiting period for new purchases (which is meaningless because anybody who thinks they need a gun as soon as they can get to a store is wrong and probably shouldn't have one anyway). Any form of control is going to restrict the supply that's available for criminals simply because that's how supply chains work, and any penalties suffered by people who fell short of their responsibilities as owners (which in this case would be properly securing them and honestly not that much else) are deserved despite not being full-on criminals because gun owners shouldn't be that irresponsible.

This "the problem's not going to completely go away if we do this so we should just give up and not do anything at all" attitude is really quite silly. There's ample middle ground that will preserve responsible gun owners' abilities to own and use guns responsibly while still reducing the number of guns that end up on the streets. The only reason this isn't enacted is because the arms industry's propaganda department is well-funded enough to convince everyone that a gun safe is literally Hitler.

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emagdnE posted...

Really guys? The Wachowski Brothers are now the Wachowski Sisters and you find it hard to believe that they inserted their own feelings of identity disillusionment into their story?

Come on.

To be fair, Rev has a tendency to very narrowly interpret things then argue vociferously against any other interpretations, regardless of how much more substantiated and credible those other interpretations are. This is absolutely par for the course for him.

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Rasmoh posted...

20 minutes is ample time to check someone's ID and run a criminal background check.

20 minutes is barely enough time to get through most phone trees, let alone get the police to conduct a proper record check or have anyone with any sort of oversight approve an application. And that still only covers the "law-abiding" part and does nothing for "responsible," to say nothing of the "mentally sound" aspect that should also be considered.

Smarkil posted...

Somebody doesn't know about the 4473 form or the NICS.

Both of which can streamline the process of purchasing subsequent guns, but if the approval process to purchase a gun without prior approval takes less than 20 minutes, it's inadequate.

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LinkPizza posted...

And some may say, "If they waited that long, couldn't they wait a little longer?" And that's an answer nobody can actually answer. Because nobody knows how long things will stay open. The second wave, if there is one, could happen at any point. Meaning, you could lose that bar again for even longer. Maybe even forever. And then that means that person possibly missed their last chance to go to bar...

If a second wave comes as a result of people crowding into public spaces as soon as they can, then you should miss your chance to go to the bar, because it wasn't actually safe to do so and everything was opened prematurely (which is very likely because, as I said, this is a decision based on public and political pressure, not on medical advice). Yeah, that sucks for people that like going to bars, but crowding them prematurely is only going to ruin it for everyone else and endanger others unnecessarily.

RedPixel posted...

If the mortality rate was actually fatal, sure.

Where are you finding non-fatal mortality? I've gotta get me some of that.

RedPixel posted...

but walk outside and listen to your own instincts.

My instincts don't have the technology necessary to accurately identify the risk of viral transmission around me. To that end, it's a far better idea to listen to statistics and recommendations from epidemiologists that do have such technology to protect myself and those around me from a risk I otherwise can't hope to accurately assess.

RedPixel posted...

The soda aisle, isolation, and breathing recycled oxygen are each more dangerous than Covid-19,

People should indeed drink less soda. Isolation is easy enough to fix without violating distancing recommendations (whether remotely or just by meeting up and keeping some distance). Recycled oxygen in particular isn't at all dangerous (beyond the dangers normally posed by oxygen), and most of the issues associated with recycled air (which is presumably what you mean) are primarily associated with large office buildings with inadequate air intake, not residential buildings where you can open a window whenever you want some fresh air (to say nothing of the ever-present option of going for a walk).

None of the solutions to those issues are in any way mutually exclusive of taking precautions to prevent the spread of COVID (the soda one is completely irrelevant). You can very easily solve all of them at once, if desired.

RedPixel posted...

Quarantine is for sick people.

Correction: Quarantine is for people who are suspected to be contagious. You don't have to actually be sick to qualify for quarantine, just have enough risk factors to make officials believe there's a reasonable chance you might be.

Furthermore, as much as "quarantine" has become the go-to colloquial term to describe this situation, saying "stay at home as much as possible and avoid gatherings" is not a quarantine. Actual quarantine is imprisonment: you are strictly isolated and forcibly prevented from coming into contact with anyone. You can't go outside for a walk around your neighbourhood. You can't go to the grocery store. People don't ask you to wear a mask because the only people you can interact with are in hazmat suits anyway. You're right that quarantine is for (suspected) sick people, which is why the current orders fall far short of what a genuine quarantine would be. Be thankful that it hasn't gotten that bad yet.

wwinterj25 posted...

No it's a me problem and that's all I care about.

Then I'm sure you'll get over it.

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Zeus posted...

Considering that Avril is beloved in Japan for that usage, the claim that it's cultural appropriation -- when you're talking about Hello Kitty in the first place -- is laughable for any number of reasons.

It's making use of one culture to produce entertainment for another culture. That is - in the most literal sense - cultural appropriation. There's an argument to be made that the video was produced for Japan more so than for a Western audience, which would make that statement untrue, but otherwise, it is what it is.

As I said, though, it's not a particularly objectionable example of such appropriation. As much as the term gets used negatively by many people, I consider it to be pretty neutral on its own. Making any sort of value judgement about the appropriation in question relies on context and ts potential impact. Here, if anything, it's probably actually a positive example, given that the video was well received by Japanese audiences.

Zeus posted...

Kinda engaging in some cultural oppression there, suggesting what the Japanese should think of an act they actually like >_> "Hello Kitty" made it to number TWO on Japan's Billboard charts but iirc never tracked in the USA.

They can like whatever they want, but I'm going to continue thinking that it's painfully unwatchable garbage. That's the beauty of opinions.

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LinkPizza posted...

I mean, science says too much isolation can be harmful. And socialization is good for people. And healthy. And humans are social creatures. Most people take comfort in socializing and stuff.

Sure, but you can be social without flocking to a crowded bar the second it's legal to do so again with no regard for how safe it actually is. Phones exist, the internet exists, you can hang out with friends in person provided they've been sensible about avoiding exposure... Deliberately going somewhere crowded as soon as the government has caved to public pressure to reopen stuff (which is very different from doctors and epidemiologists saying it's safe to reopen stuff, mind you) is a stupid idea, and far from the only way to get human interaction.

wwinterj25 posted...

Drinking at home/someones home out of a can or even pint glass isn't the same as a beer pulled from the barrel.

I mean, if there's a global public health crisis ongoing and the worst complaint you can make is "my beer is suboptimal," I think you're doing pretty well. I don't disagree that well-poured draughts are better than canned/bottled stuff, but that's not exactly an apocalyptic problem.

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

there are also no "good samaritan" laws unless you are a 1st responder or something similar. regular person has no legal obligation to try and save someone

Good samaritan laws don't compel passers-by to help, they protect passers-by who decide to help from litigation if that attempt to help goes awry. If you try to save someone from choking by doing abdominal thrusts and you break a rib such that they end up with a punctured lung and die from that, good samaritan laws protect you from being charged for that death. Naturally, there are reasonable limitations to this (i.e. don't try performing open heart surgery as a layperson because somebody complains of chest pain), but that's the gist of it.

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That sounds pretty lazy to me. It's laziness that was motivated by apathy, sure, but it's laziness nonetheless.

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Revelation34 posted...

Citation needed.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/78690889

You'll have to read a bit and make some inferences from context, but the information's there (or not there, as the case may be).

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Rasmoh posted...

Why is it crazy that you're being treated like a responsible, law-abiding adult?

Because 20 minutes is nowhere close to enough time to make that assessment. Heck, it's barely enough time to verify the "adult" part, let alone responsible or law-abiding, to say nothing of the fact that being able to do it so quickly means it could very well be an impulsive, irrational decision (see: the effect that waiting periods have on successful suicide rates).

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It is indeed. Of course, people lose their minds the moment anyone starts seriously trying to implement any sort of actual controls on lethal weaponry, so that's unlikely to change any time soon.

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Zeus posted...

If somebody cares about a specific cause, it makes far more sense to donate directly for that cause.

That's all well and good, provided enough people choose causes that actually help society run smoothly and not just whatever they like the sound of or what advertises the best. The latter is what tends to happen, which is why pandas happily continue to exist despite being hell-bent on their own extinction (I'm all for conservation and all, but pandas really have no business surviving given how poorly-adapted they are) while people starve in the streets outside the offices that helped to fund pandas' survival, or why we saw an amount of money go toward Notre Dame's restoration that could have fed the world for a year.

In theory, a government is elected based on its ability to make sensible decisions about which causes will best contribute to society's function. A government that fails to do so (whether by incompetence or by corruption) is voted out and replaced with a more capable one. In practice, of course, that's a very complex assessment that voters aren't very good at, and it's rare for there to be plausible alternative candidates that can be voted for to make changes (mostly because those that might get dismissed as "crackpot insanity," to use the words of somebody you might know). That's a broken electoral system, though, not a flaw in the fundamental concept of taxes. If you vote for better people and convince everyone else to do the same, taxes work just fine.

Revelation34 posted...

Nobody used the word "slut" in this thread.

You pick the weirdest stuff to be contrarian about for no reason.

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Smiffwilm posted...

Bunny hood is going to be the clear winner. It's a game that has a time limit and it makes you move much faster. It's just too useful compared to everything else lol.

Pretty much. It's certainly not the most fun or interesting, but it's far and away the most useful mask in the game.

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Judgmenl posted...

I think it has a lot to do with the kinds of anime that I like, which rarely fall into the common anime people like.

I don't think Bible Black has much to do with "common anime people like."

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Judgmenl posted...

Never understood the gimmick of this anime.

What's there to not understand? It's just porn.

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They definitely constituted cultural appropriation, though not in a particularly objectionable way. I wouldn't say they were at all racist, nor that they were otherwise mean-spirited or demeaning to the races involved.

I would, however, say that they were seething, festering masses of second-hand embarrassment and cringiness and that such abominations should never have been allowed to see the light of day.

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Probably just another angsty teenager with a tenuous grasp of history trying to get a rise out of people for attention. These idiots should really consider getting some hobbies.

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blu posted...

I really dont want to foster that kind of relationship. Im fine taking a hit every once in a while if I can get some other benefits by keeping things cordial, even if its frustrating and a bit demeaning to retype a list out of what tasks were tagged on and maybe and some trivia to it if Im feeling passive-aggressive (emailed pdf of patient record to x clinic, answered email about start date to coworker, gave suggestion of plan strategy to coworker). A negative environment is worse than an inefficient one for overall productivity (and enjoyment), and my place has a huge negativity problem already, from both the top and the bottom.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2015/11/those-toxic-co-workers/

You could probably get away with copy+pasting the "completed tasks" list and adding a couple annotations wherever appropriate, at least. Less pettily passive-aggressive and therefore unlikely to strain your relationship, but also less work than actually typing it out.

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I feel like there's an argument to be made for this being a violent threat, and I wouldn't be at all sad to see people like this thrown in jail for the good of everyone else.

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My dad's dead, so that's a moot point. I have loaned money to my mother, though, under pretty much no expectation of her repaying me (despite the fact that she fully intends to) because she's done enough for me that I don't feel like she should feel indebted.

Right now, I don't really have the spare cash needed to give her another such loan, but if I did (my general philosophy with loaning money is to not do so unless I'll be okay never seeing it again), I'd certainly be willing to. The fact that she hasn't paid me back for the rest yet is a point against her, obviously, and for other people that would probably be enough to discourage me from giving them any more, but again, she's done more than enough for me and I'm perfectly fine with giving a little back here and there.

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It's not that implausible. Tony's pride would have kept him from putting in any genuine, deliberate effort to keep that line of communication open with Cap, so taking the time - however trivial it might be - to clone the phone wouldn't be something he'd be willing to do. At the same time, though, he knew he might need it some day, so he couldn't bring himself to discard or otherwise neglect it. As a result, he carried it around, despite how impractical that was and how easily he could have found a better solution to the problem.

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I have no idea if it's still support or if it'll work for this, but in the past I've used Daemontools to mount .iso files onto a virtual disc drive to allow them to be read. Maybe look into that?

That, or go poking around in the update menu to see if there's a manual update installation option, since I would imagine that will have some form of native .iso support.

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blu posted...

But otherwise communication is able to happen without sending lists at the end of the day of what you did.

Especially when that list is automatically compiled for you.

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At least your town's fruit, anyway. I don't believe you can buy foreign ones.

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streamofthesky posted...

The real answer is to get rid of all the existing business tax breaks and replace them w/ breaks for hiring lots of legal U.S. residents relative to the company's annual revenue.
Then it doesn't matter if they're outsourcing, using illegal immigrant labor, or automating. They get hit w/ a huge tax bill.
It's impossible to tax the shit out of companies enough to stave off automation forever, but we can at least slow the descent and build up a nice pool of tax money to phase in UBI with.

The future will be much fewer jobs while corporate profits continue to soar from automation, and the taxes on their earnings being used to provide a basic income to everyone so they can like...survive and stuff.

This is probably the best approach, though at some level I do consider promoting automation to be a good thing because of the innovation that will bring about. An automated future is inevitable, though, and until we reach 100% automation and money ceases to mean anything, there's going to need to be something to bridge the gap.

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Ogurisama posted...

C+ C+ C+ C+ C+ C+ C+ C+ C+ C+ C+ C+ C+ C+

See? Bass! See? Bass! See? Bass! See? Bass! See? Bass! See? Bass! See? Bass! See? Bass!

For nearly 20 years, it has haunted me. Though at least back then Coelacanths were a different size and the only potential disappointment you'd have on seeing a big shadow in the ocean was a tire. That was kind of nice, though having Sea Bass, Red Snappers, and Barred Knifejaws all be the same shadow was a pain (worth 120, 3000, and 5000, respectively, so that was a big difference).

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OhhhJa posted...

Sadly, a lot of bosses think this way. Like it's not enough that they're making money hand over fist and all the work is getting done. If the employees aren't miserable, they aren't earning their pay. That's a lot of the reason the 8 hour work day is still a thing. Even if all the work gets done early, they want you to stay the rest of the day and pretend to work

To be fair, given the whole "work from home" situation, a lot of supervisors and managers have been put into positions where they don't really have anyone to supervise or manage. To that end, it's only natural that they'd try to extend their duties into micromanaging what employees are doing at home, since there's no other way for them to actually do their jobs.

Now, does that raise the question of how necessary many supervisors and managers actually are? Absolutely. There's a whole lot of middle management bloat in many organizations that exists pretty much purely so a promotion can be dangled in front of minimum wage employees and to create a greater illusion of control over the rank-and-file. In times when the rank-and-file aren't physically present and that illusion can't be maintained, it becomes pretty obvious just how flimsy it is. But it's still understandable that supervisors would still try to supervise as best they can despite the lack of physical presence, even if it's not actually necessary.

RedPixel posted...

Everyone would be happier and healthier if they had time to themselves. Instead, we don't question a system that makes us feel lucky if we can pay for s*** we never signed up for and get 2 weeks off in a year.

Uhh, what hole have you buried your head in that you don't think people are questioning the 9-5 paradigm? Plenty of people are questioning that. Nothing's happening because the people perpetuating it know the people questioning it don't really have any other options if they want to eat, but that doesn't mean it isn't being questioned.

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I wouldn't say "really long," but it's definitely past the point where I'd normally be going to get it cut. I'm going to have to take the clippers to it at some point.

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Muscles posted...

We could tax them much more for manufacturing over seas so that it would be cheaper to manufacture here despite a minimum wage

That still incentivizes automation and other workforce reduction strategies. As it stands now, overseas labour is cheap enough that the R&D required to automate everything isn't worthwhile, but if labour's more expensive, sensible business strategy dictates cutting down on the amount of labour needed to maintain the same margins.

That will take time, of course, so we'd see an increase in domestic manufacturing jobs for a little while after introducing such taxes (and, in turn, product prices), but as soon as replacing workers with robots becomes economically viable, it's going to happen, and layoffs will start (probably without a commensurate reduction in product prices because corporations like more money).

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I believe it was OoT that led me here. Times really have changed since then, but I generally prefer the wiki format for finding specific information. It's pretty rare that I actually want a step-by-step walkthrough of the whole game.

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But I need to hurt it. It's the only way to make the voices stop.

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VeeVees posted...

Why the fuck is irregardless even a word? It just means regardless.

Why is "damp" even a word? It just means "moist."

English is a thoroughly redundant language. "Irregardless" is a particularly egregious example of that, particularly where, morphologically speaking, it looks like it should mean the opposite of "regardless," but it's nonetheless par for the course.

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Hospy posted...

Irregardless of how difficult it is or who is at fault, this pandemic has showed us the dangers of relying on outside manufacturing and the need to have domestic production capable of responding to an emergency. The only real way of getting that is incentivizing bringing back production capabilities from abroad.

Particularly if said production is automated and can continue to operate even while the few employees that are there maintain social distancing, cutting down on the number of people that are put at risk by being deemed essential. Realistically, that will be the natural long-term consequence of reducing outsourcing, since corporations aren't going to simply accept making less money due to higher domestic wages and will immediately invest in avoiding that problem.

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DrYuya posted...

Minecraft

Minecraft officially released in 2011, which is why it showed up in this decade's contest. The alpha started in 2009, but I can understand GameFAQs only counting the actual release date for this purpose.

DrYuya posted...

But only on GameFAQs would I think the general consensus be that its better than ALL of those.

To be fair, the nature of the tournament is such that winning it doesn't actually mean voters think it's better than all of its competitors. Just better than whichever 7-8 competitors it was matched up against in a direct comparison. It never directly competed against most of the games in the competition.

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Can I hurt Sea Bass x5 again yet?

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There we go.

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Sorry, DC'd. Reopening now.

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Doctor Foxx posted...

May I please visit to sell some turnips?

Certainly. Gates are open

Ogurisama posted...

I dont got nips adjl, but I want to check your island (I should be cleaning)

There's not much to see, really. I've very much been procrastinating rearranging everything to put together an actual design, though having an extra 6 million to fund those relocation permits should help.

WastelandCowboy posted...

You can make some serious profit if you advertise this elsewhere. Nook Mile Tickets, gold nuggets, bell tips, etc.

I probably will. It's a very high price, very late in the week.

Also, the Crown (not Royal Crown) is in the tailor shop.

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Turnips are 611, 1 bell short of the maximum possible value for having bought them at 102. I'm okay with this. My hybrid yellow mums also produced a green one today, so I apparently don't need to wait for them to produce a second hybrid purple and I'm all done breeding mums now. Nifty.

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Send her a screenshot of your "view completed tasks" page in lieu of actually putting together a report.

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Joker_X_II posted...

Not my country, not my problem.

Then again, if it's not Bezos, it's going to be the Rockafellers, or the DuPonts, or the Bush, or the JP Morgans, or the Buffetts, or the Gates, or the Zuckerbergs.....

... you'd be fooling yourself if you think your life would be any better without these people anyways.

Life would be better if the ultra-rich didn't skip out on paying taxes proportional to their income, at least. There's basically no reason the middle or lower classes (or even the lower end of upper-class) should have to shoulder any tax burden at all, given that the richest Americans could pay the entirety of those classes' current contribution and not actually notice a difference without looking at their balance sheet, let alone how trivial the impact would be if they only paid half of it. The fact that the middle class shoulders as much tax burden as they do while billionaires hoard their money is a travesty.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't be able to become fabulously wealthy by finding success in business and life. Bezos et al absolutely do deserve to live in luxury and comfort for the rest of their lives for what they've managed to accomplish. The issue is that they could easily do so on less than 10% of their current wealth, meaning the rest is being hoarded (and therefore kept from stimulating the economy) for basically no reason.

Revelation34 posted...

Why do you want him to buy 10 billion s***ty cars?

Because buying 10 billion cars means a billion car salespeople each get 10 commissions that they can spend renovating their homes or putting their kids through college, a million car factories can hire a dozen new workers each who will then each have more money to spend, as can a million steel plants, and iron mines, and textiles factories, and...

The specific example is very obviously exaggerated, but the basic concept is sound: It really doesn't matter what the money is spent on, it matters that the money is actually spent. That's what stimulates economies; they're at their healthiest when as many people as possible can and do spend money. Sequestering that much money in one person's bank account, however, impairs economies because less money is changing hands.

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Hurt Sea Bass x5.

It's not dead enough yet.

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Mead posted...

We could drop snakes on their cities

It wouldnt be illegal be its nature

That would require us to put snakes on planes, though, and we know that wouldn't end well.

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wwinterj25 posted...

I hope you're wearing your mask now and are no longer being hypocritical. I would assume so given your passionate posts about this but in the past you've proved otherwise so I must check.

A couple cloth ones should be showing up in the mail any day now, at which point I do intend to wear them whenever I go out. These days, though, I'm only going out for biweekly groceries (last one was the 4th, next one is on monday) and the occasional walk around my neighbourhood. In the case of the former, I don't think I've made such a trip since the last time I discussed this, and in the case of the latter, distancing is easy enough that it's not as big of a deal.

dancer62 posted...

The common paper surgical mask is somewhat effective for the first 5 minutes, before it becomes moistened by your breath and stops being more than symbolic. Bandanas that do not seal at all, just a social gesture and sort of cool to walk around emulating an Old West desperado.

So, yes, rude to not wear a symbolic face covering, but insignificant unless you wear a mask that seals well, and change it often.

Just about anything you can cover your face with will have some effect. Nothing's going to be perfect, obviously (short of a full-on SCBA kit, which is pretty hard to beat for protection, but a typical one still doesn't work so well for containment because that's not what it's for), but the nature of exponential growth is such that any small improvement can have significant downstream effects. Infecting 4 people today instead of 5 can mean a couple hundred fewer cases in two months' time.

Quite simply, if improvised masks truly did nothing, public health agencies would be telling people not to bother, not saying that they're an okay alternative if proper masks are unavailable.

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The fact that you can't seem to understand people who are happy having an employer definitely suggests so.

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