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I'm 6'0"

I imagine at 6'1" 200 would be alright could maybe try 190. Play it by ear. Big thing with me is I thought 210 was basically fine but I feel much better at 175 which is why I say don't settle. Lots of randos started giving me props at around 190 which was really encouraging. You started higher so you may already be getting those but you do plateau a bit in terms of perceived weight loss in the range you are approaching so it's easy to just stop there, but don't.
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Yeah a small break is probably fine. I just know I dropped from 250 to 210, felt alright about things and took a break for a few months, then I wanted to start again and had quite a wind up time and was back at 220 before it actually started again.

Currently 175 and have held that for months and feeling great though. As long as you make some reasonable effort to preserve your eating habits you shouldn't rebound. Holiday season is the most trying time so even if you do a bit don't get discouraged
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Nice work man! If you're this far I'm sure you'll reach your goal. Just don't settle because you're looking "good enough" cause it's harder to start losing weight again when you've stopped your momentum speaking from experience and depending on your body structure you may be completely fine with how you look and feel well before 200. Just go all the way through. Having a buffer in case your weight rebounds a bit is good anyway.
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You loved Bray Wyatt though didn't you
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You know I made no effort to save any resources but maybe I'll login to see if the game will be kind
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Edward's gameplay is fun

Whiny loser at first, yes
He gradually gains some confidence over time though starting with the scene at Kaipo Inn at night
By Troia post shipwreck he's no more effective but he's having issues now due to being cripple from the shipwreck more than being a whiner and he's doing the best he can dammit

Is he great? Nah not really, but I kinda like him. His limited character development is good and comes off naturally enough in a game where there isn't really much of that.
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Drakeryn posted...

I would not for an instant think "yes, these are the views of Blizzard, he is speaking as a company representative"

That's because you're thinking about it, though.

The majority aren't thinking about it. It's reported as "dude on Hearthstone stream says ____" and it's linked to the stream as its point of origin. The link in your mind is there. When you technically boil it down no it's not anything blizzard endorses but it's still something broadcast from a blizzard source which creates associations whether right or wrong.

Like in an ideal world you're right I just don't think it's working that way in practice. If Blizzard streams started becoming a hotbed for MAGA folks to start on rants then you're like "oh yeah blizzard their games have all those MAGA nuts playing em" which is not necessarily an image they want
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Maybe they knew that would happen and are secretly patriots
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I mean don't get me wrong I think if China is like 3% of their profits instead of 30% they aren't making that snap judgment and more carefully consider what punishment is fair and fits but I think saying it's just about fear of losing potential China profit right now by not bending a knee and groveling I think is dumbing it down.

Like if this guy does that with no repercussions what's to stop another and another and Blizzard perpetually becoming a soapbox for whatever charged topic comes up and becoming associated with all sorts of things they'd rather just stay out of cause there's no profit there. I feel like that kinda mindset was at work too, and is a lot more forgivable.
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I think making it purely a profit margin thing is dumbing it down anyway

Does China bow out completely with a less severe punishment or even no punishment at all? Hard to say, but honestly really doubtful. Was the decision to be severe largely about appeasing massive profit generator China? Possibly, but again, hard to say.

For me the point of interest is less about "is Blizzard okay to make a decision entirely because it boosts their bottom line" cause I mean clearly they are and it's just about whether you find it scummy. The interesting thing to consider is more "is Blizzard necessarily in the wrong if they want to keep charged topics off their streams in general." Because I think the latter thinking is a bigger factor than a lot of people are giving credit for, and part of this was trying to make a decisive example to prevent further incidents. They're not entirely unrelated or anything and I'm not saying trying to purge that kinda stuff isn't ultimately being done with a profit driven mindset (more of a preventative potential bad PR measure) but I consider the latter a lot more acceptable as a mindset than "let's get in good with the regime by totally obliterating this guy" which is how everyone seems to be framing it.

Like I just don't think it's reasonable to hold a company to a standard where they're expected to basically take the role of an activist-- the "these don't represent Blizzard" disclaimers are nice but they're technicalities more than anything. If you broadcast something, it's getting tied to you. Wanting to prevent that is fine. Blizzard is a gaming company not a news outlet or public forum and not wanting heat associated with their brand is acceptable. It's not a matter of straight censorship it's about whether a content creator has control over what gets associated with them.

But yeah, the extent of the punishment was egregious so I don't support Blizzard here, but I just don't think they're necessarily scum of the earth either depending on what the mindset was, which we can't really know. Backpedaling and admitting they overreacted and dialing the punishment back a lot (and completely for the casters) would do a lot to mend the situation.
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I'm pretty sure the exact moment Rollins's coolness started to tank was when he got the Burn It Down catchphrase

Same with Braun Strowman and Get These Hands
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Bravely Default isn't the enemy it's Edea imo. The more obnoxious of the alts saves her first
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Gaslighting what

I'm just saying you are misrepresenting the stance of everyone who isn't all up on blizzard's ass by claiming that makes you pro China or even necessarily pro censorship. That's not what it's about. I don't see a reason to have an argument about "points" when you are misrepresenting mine. You are critically thinking about a point I'm not making.

My issue has never been about your stance on censorship, it's been about you being holier than thou to people who would dare not show outrage over what Blizzard did, as though not being SUPER UPSET here makes you a bad person or something. If you disagree but are only a little upset and will talk out the details of whether a lesser punishment was warranted that's just not good enough-- like how vigorously you're wagging your finger at Blizzard on a video game message board means anything about your worth as a person. It's impossible to take seriously and reads more like a freedom fighter character than a reaction a real person would have to this. That doesn't mean the stance is fake-- you could just be cranking the volume real loud on what you actually believe, but the reaction is such a character.
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There is a difference between being against a regime and crying moral superiority against people who don't show enough outrage about a video game company potentially doing some of the dirty work of the regime through a harsh punishment of a player. Heck with me I even agree with the general idea that Blizzard was out of line, but just adding the caveat that a stream isn't a place for that and it's not Blizzard's obligation to be the platform for him to express his views on that, and the dude should have got some much more minor punishment to dissuade these kinda things. Unfortunately, I just don't agree hard enough for MariaTaylor, the Level 1 Chaotic Good freedom loving Bard with a heart of gold, to abide.

You keep saying you don't like me that like it matters. Your feelings about me have no bearing on how I feel about you or about myself. Partially because your opinion is based on a grievance I find valueless (that people should be super upset at Blizzard here or else they MUST support authoritarian regimes) so I don't take it seriously, and partially because we don't know each other on any sort of personal level so I'm not angry or upset that you dislike me. Plenty of people here, some of which I hold in higher regard than you, dislike me, but you can't accept that it's meaningless to me. You keep saying I'm freaking out here but it feels like projecting at this point. There is no backpedaling-- when I say I have no beef with you I am not trying to damage control you calling me scum I am just being honest.
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Also I can think you're being a pretentious idiot here without disliking you

I don't dislike you. As always your random rants against people are hit or miss, with this one being a miss. It's whatever. I don't win em all either. (This one is a softball so swing away)

I just said you as the arbiter of who is and isn't a positive influence on the world is something I find laughable and that I find you chiefly spread negativity on this board while trying to be chuu2 about it, and don't really share any life experiences that make me feel like "wow that dude is really contributing to society" so I would be very surprised if you really have much actual substance to stand on as far as being the morality police (I'm sorry, you don't care about morality because you lose chuu2 points doing that so whatever valuing human rights is that isn't morality).

That doesn't mean I dislike you. That's just me making an honest assessment based on what I've gathered from your posting over the years. It doesn't mean I'm freaking out or fuming here. I'm sorry if that honest assessment has made you freak out or fume. Heck a lot of people would say that about me, and once upon a time I would've agreed with them. I feel I've mellowed out over the years though.
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Lopen posted...

Yeah I think with a more moderate punishment and maybe a warning that further use of the live stream for political reasons by anyone will result in the punishment this guy got would be fair. And obviously no punishment for the casters.

Like I definitely support Blizzard's right to keep political stuff off their streams but this is way over the top to the point where the outrage seems warranted.

First post in the topic btw

But yeah please tell me how I'm backpedaling
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

A lot of people got real quiet when it was revealed both sides of the US Senate are condemning this.

And I condemn this as well for the record! But it's all the severity of the action rather than taking an action at all, for me.
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I don't really care if your opinion of me has changed. Your interaction is not one I value particularly highly. I imagine you've deluded yourself into thinking I care because you've PMed me over Discord a few times and I've responded to them, but that is not the case. We haven't talked in years and I have made no effort to initiate any contact since because you're just a person who talks to me sometimes. No more, no less-- just another person from the board that I'm neutralish on. I'm still neutralish on you and don't really take offense at you thinking I'm scum because it's just not something I think is justified very well so I can't take it seriously. It feels more like you're roleplaying chaotic good here than actually being authentic-- you used to (poorly) roleplay chaotic evil so that would make sense.

I'm not mocking anyone for taking a pro freedom stance. I'm mocking people for thinking that their stance on what Blizzard should have done here is grounds for any sort of superiority as a person when it should basically begin with "I disagree and here's why." Denying Blizzard some money or ragging on people who don't want to raise a huge fuss over this does not make you a saint. With boycotting it's your right to do it, but it's a pretty minor gesture all things considered. The ragging is of course completely meaningless.
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I'm panicing why?

I find your rants against people moderately amusing from time to time but why would I be concerned whatsoever about you putting me in your crosshairs? Even if I was the type to care about how the board at large views me you have no influence on public opinion here and I've picked fights with people with much more.

I mean I may very well be scum this just isn't something that contributes to it in any sort of meaningful way. The fact that you think it does is a bad joke. It feels like you're playing some message board vigilante character rather than being a real person here. I stand up for FREEDOM HA HA SCUM. Yeah put me in my place, dude. Fight the good fight. I'm so glad we have freedom fighters on the board where would we be without you.
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MariaTaylor posted...

my track record on this board is pretty fucking consistent, I don't think this is gonna go how you want it to go.

Yeah. You put on a big show about being superior to people for various reasons without any real substance behind it beyond your "cutting wit." You get off on cutting people down, and don't really contribute anything but negativity here. I know your track record well. Someone like you being a positive contributor to society in any sort of meaningful way sounds like a pilot to a bad comedy where you go out and make everyone you interact with feel worse.

I don't care if you call me scum. It means nothing from you.
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Are you pro freedom and anti censorship? How are you furthering those causes beyond feigning disgust over people on message boards?
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GranzonEx posted...

basic human rights is not an agenda

are you for real right now

Are you?

Do you think my use of the word "agenda" fundamentally changes my point?

Or are you just putting on a show where you pretend to think I'm a terrible person because I'd dare say that some places are not appropriate venues to launch into a tangent, even if the tangent is about "basic human rights," so you can feel better about yourself?
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MariaTaylor posted...

well I don't care about morality at all, but I literally don't get how you could read handsomedude's post and be like "yeah, I'm okay with blizzard censoring and punishing people for speaking out against this." anyone who thinks like that is legitimately dog shit level scum in my eyes.

blizzard did not take a neutral stance here. they chose to selectively enforce a very vague rule that allows them to punish any player for any reason, and they used it to censor and punish someone for speaking out against authoritarian violations of basic civil liberties. I know there are a lot of soft, squishy cowards on this board who take their freedom for granted but I am not one of them.

you are either ignorant, or just straight up trash. that's all there is to it.

once again, this has nothing to do with morality and everything to do with my personal opinion of you

Freedom of speech doesn't apply here, really. It's not as if Blizzard is against the guy saying it and actively trying to censor him through whatever neutral vehicle he wants to use.

But when you use their show as a platform for your agenda they should be able to stop you no matter what the message is.

Like if some guest were to come into your stream while you're playing some Dark Souls game you hate for the 48th time and preach the virtues of I don't know the KKK you would be justified in removing the content from your channel and never inviting the guy on your stream again.

To be clear I disagree with what they did, as it was clearly excessive and caught the casters who deserved nothing as well. But they should have done something about it. A ban from a tournament or two followed by a warning to not do stuff like this in the future would have been more reasonable.

But to be clear I also don't think you putting on a show where you blow your reaction out of proportion here in order to virtue signal makes you a better person than me by any measure. Or anyone, for that matter. It's just not something that really should register. You want to claim some sort of objective value as a person over me do something important with your life. Help people with problems in some way, donate to some charities, I don't know, literally anything that actually matters-- posting some random shit on a message board where you express distaste of Blizzard means less than nothing and shouldn't be impressing anyone.
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redrocket posted...

really

Yes really. It's very dumb that anyone who isn't saying blizzard should be burned at the stake is being treated as morally inferior here. Hell on the morality front many of these people probably do or have done worse things in their day to day lives than "not act appalled by Blizzard over reacting with their punishment to a guy who went on a tangent on their stream." Heck they have done it in my estimation, just looking at crap I read on the board.

You have the right to stop supporting Blizzard because of their business practices. You making the tremendous sacrifice of not spending $10 on WoW or not playing Hearthstone anymore doesn't make you some sort of saint either.

Like you wanna say people are wrong for saying Blizzard was okay to do this, that's fine, but cut the condescension about it
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Calling it outrage culture when a government is terrible to its people is also really shitty.

This is a reaction to video game company did to a player of its game due to a statement about a government, not the government itself.

Reacting like Blizzard is the scum of the earth is absolutely the type of stuff that feeds the "outrage culture lol" types. I mean I actually disagree with what they did due to the magnitude and because the casters deserved literally nothing, but at the same time they should have done something to the dude because that's just not the venue for this kinda stuff and the company shouldn't be put in that situation by randos on the stream no matter how terrible what's going on is.
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Honestly if you want the "outrage culture lol" thing to go away reeling it in a bit is good so I approve of Corrik's message here.

You can be for or against what Blizzard did without it being about THINK OF DA HUMAN LIVEZ ;_; ;_; ;_;
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ShatteredElysium posted...

They could have banned him for like 1-2 tournaments and sent out a reminder that you cannot use the stream for political reasons

Yeah I think with a more moderate punishment and maybe a warning that further use of the live stream for political reasons by anyone will result in the punishment this guy got would be fair. And obviously no punishment for the casters.

Like I definitely support Blizzard's right to keep political stuff off their streams but this is way over the top to the point where the outrage seems warranted.
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To be fair I feel like South Park has more distinctive styles of episodes than Simpsons does. Like I couldn't really care less about the "biting social commentary" type stuff scarlet beams about but I tend to like the stupid fun episodes that are just simple stuff like a Lord of the Rings parody or whatever.
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Amarant is actively hated by the FFIX fanbase as he goes against all the whimsy and charm they like so much.

Quina and Eiko aren't as much. They're just hated by outsiders. That FFIX core will carry them if they're last.
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RaidenGarai posted...

Look at Strowman when he caught fire, and I don't think people were as into him as they are the Fiend now.

I really don't think so

Fiend may seem more over because of the absolute star power vacuum right now but yeah
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I'm just saying I almost feel bad for Rollins if he gets nuked for that match

Feels like your hate should go at WWE > Fiend > Rollins in that order for how much they contributed to the idiocy of the match
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See like I don't even feel they did it to protect Rollins as much as to prevent The Fiend from winning the title since they don't know what to do with it. I mean that could be wrong but if you're telling me the intent was to protect Rollins I feel they failed miserably.
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I dunno man I guess I didn't actually watch the match so I'll concede to you but reading the recap the dumbest thing about it seems like everything involving The Fiend. The lighting, the insane amount of kick outs.

We saw a DQ in a HiaC literally last year. Yes it was stupid then too but it didn't have people rioting.

I mean I dunno I just think the core of the problem is WWE putting out stuff that's impossible to take seriously more than a DQ in a no DQ match, though the whole of all the blunders is worth more than the sum of its parts here.

But if you wanna say it's all the DQ I can't really say you're wrong for sure
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I feel like people would just as likely be booing the finisher fest in principle

I dunno I just don't know how you have a match that stupid and don't say the guy no-selling 8000 things is getting damage to him as well. Like if Bray just wins clean after taking all that rather than the stupid DQ finish do you think the audience is going home happy? Man I hope it's not that simple. I mean obviously they boo less but I feel like that's just a small part of the problem.

At least I hope it is. Like the match is kinda just insulting the intelligence of the viewers at this point and imo Bray's wacky character tanking 8000 things is the root cause but what do I know
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Did the crowd want him to win or did they just not want a DQ in a HiaC match I dunno

I feel like both will be getting booed out the building
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Even Undertaker at the peak of his power would lose to that onslaught easily. I think Fiend is going to get go away heat now.

But I've always been on the Bray hate crew so whatever
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This movie was disappointing. I won't call it bad-- was a unique watch that I don't mind having seen. But it was disappointing.

Phoenix as Joker was very good (though I'll still take Ledger) but like yeah I dunno it was a bit too slow a burn and felt like it needed a bit more to it in the end. It felt like a sequence of increasingly tense random events that built to a climax and then immediately cut out before it was able to breathe. I was expecting it to go another 20 minutes or so.

I almost think the movie would be better without the DC tie-in to be honest. Just remove the Gotham and Wayne elements, which were pretty unnecessary, and you have a pretty solid psychological thriller and I probably go in expecting less.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

Last I checked they were doing filler matches once a month but that was a while ago

They haven't had a match yet this month and there were only 4 announced matches for the PPV so...
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I thought that was a much better choice for a Simpsons episode this time around. Kind of a shocker to me it reflected in the score though I just assumed something was fundamentally unable to click with you and Simpsons period. I mean that is probably true but less severe than I thought I guess.
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I generally avoided the "funny" shows as a kid so it's not as common for me to have that kinda feeling that I'd completely hate the shows if I were to rewatch them. Most of the more actiony cartoons that I took interest in have either some sort of unique appeal to the setting or some nuance to the plot, or they're super campy and would be entertaining to watch even if it's maybe bad at times.

But yeah I can't actually remember anything about Beast Wars other than the fad 3d animation style and the names being terrible puns like Optimus Primal the ape which is a major red flag and makes it one of the noted few I've made a point to stay away from ever watching again.
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I remember kinda liking Beast Wars as a kid but it's one of those things I intentionally never go back to because I'm sure I'd hate it today. Like I'm pretty sure I just liked it cause animalz.
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I don't care about a record I'd mostly just want a game that looks fun and stylish to play super fast.

Problem is a lot of em use glitches and weird skips and stuff. Others would end up avoiding large parts of the gameplay even if glitches aren't involved because it's not efficient to do things like fight enemies.

I feel like Metal Gear Solid 2 is potentially fun for this? I dunno.
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It's hard to really think Brock squashing Kofi was smart when the purpose is to lateral into a feud with Tito, to me. Kinda makes WWE feel cheap when you're just using it as a vehicle for washed up MMA guys.

And I feel like Kofi had some potential for good matches he just wasn't given the right guys/match structures for it. The problem is that Kofi at his best is playing as the underdog. Despite building him as that to an extent he only really had that feel vs Bryan (and Brock, but lol that match)-- all the rest was sort of on a meta level and wasn't really how the feuds were run. Some more self-awareness of Kofi being out of his depth would have helped a lot. Like to me it felt like a WWE selling you something John Cena type underdog "wow how will he overcome these odds!!" more than a legit underdog for all but the beginning and the end of his run.

Case in point the Orton feud they kept calling back to 2008 when young pup Kofi beat him up which really hurts the idea that Kofi is not on Orton's level, even if he really shouldn't be. It's funny to think that WWE acknowledging history was a mistake but I feel it was that time, and a big one at that.
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