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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 65 [smfffc]
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10/01/19 11:14:55 AM
#276
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 65 [smfffc]
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10/01/19 11:12:04 AM
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greengravy294 posted...
i miss when we got random start times

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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 65 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 7:59:01 PM
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 65 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 6:10:41 PM
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Seymour Guado
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TopicSequels that are worse than a prior game, but also better in a way...
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09/30/19 5:39:15 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
FFX's battle system is better than FFX-2's


Agree

And I'd put FFX-2's over most of the series
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 4:02:11 PM
#330
Braska is basically a character in the same way Link is one. What's presented is really generic and you need to fill in a lot of blanks for yourself. Too many for my tastes.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 3:53:32 PM
#327
Yeah I don't have a problem with minor characters but certain people, particularly those who complain about earlier FFs not having "real" characters, seem to
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 3:42:25 PM
#323
Yeah I said and/or for a reason I agree Dona has a defined character there but she's completely meaningless. Dona I mostly have trouble figuring why people would like the character, but then again I like Leblanc so *shrug

On the flip side Braska is plot significant but unmemorable in terms of what the character is.

Isaaru is the worst of both worlds.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 3:07:41 PM
#318
Terra's Mom

Madonna I guess in some games whatever the translation was in the game you played
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 3:05:01 PM
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As for why X NPCs get the flak that's just what gets nominated

I can't name any characters as minor nominated from any other game. If people started nominating I dunno, Arvis or Madeline from FFVI or Elder of Mysidia from FFIV or Choco Billy from FFVII I'd say the same kinda stuff. None of these are characters I find memorable or particularly likable in what time they have despite having arguably more plot significance and/or characterization than characters like Dona or Isaaru or Braska.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 2:52:53 PM
#314
A character doesn't need a bucketload of dialogue and screentime to actually establish a concrete likable character, which is the usual rallying cry of the character development elitists who rag on the earlier FF games as though the characters from them are "lesser" by default.

But there is some base level they need to have an appeal that makes sense. Like I would save Minwu or maybe Leon but I wouldn't see any sort of appeal to saving Josef despite the lot of em being from FF2. Josef just does less to establish himself as unique and appealing and has a bit less time than the other two. To put it in perspective all of his special moves in Record Keeper involve him being crushed by a boulder because that's pretty much all he does in the game.

Braska, like Josef, falls beneath that threshold. He's basically a plot device and I can name about as much about him as I can about Josef. That doesn't feel like exactly the right word I'm looking for but he's more of something that is assumed to have existed and is necessary backstory in the plot than a dude who has any real appeal of his own as a character. It's not his fault per se-- his story just isn't what the game is, but I have trouble thinking anyone who is saving him is really a fan of the character. It's not like someone like Vayne where he actually has enough for me to see an appeal and it just isn't quite enough to work for me-- I literally don't know or remember a thing about Braska as a character and not as a role in backstory.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 2:35:04 PM
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Clearly I need to make crappy X-Death character replacement fanfiction to help him get a run in 2020
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TopicSequels that are worse than a prior game, but also better in a way...
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09/30/19 2:23:31 PM
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Devil May Cry 4 is worse than DMC3 in most ways but man I really like the ability to swap styles on the fly as Dante.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 2:14:38 PM
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In Besaid, X-Death is taking on the trial as the Besaidians stand and wait.

Wakka tells Tidus of the dangers awaiting the high summoner X-Death. Tidus is like "oh crap what if the summoner dies!!!"

As he shows some concern, the temple collapses, as X-Death grew tired of the annoying puzzles and decided to skip them. X-Death walks out with Valefor under his command. Wakka is like "OMG THE TEACHINGZ YOU CAN'T JUST BLOW UP THE TEMPLE YA??" and he and a handful of Besaid Aurochs take fighting stances. X-Death explodes the lot of them with Fire 3.

Tidus is like "oh no" and X-Death says Sin's Toxin must have gotten to Tidus and he'll help him get home with his mastery of the dimensions if he can help him get through the rabble between the temples on this pilgrimage without raising too much of a fuss. Tidus doesn't know what's going on but goes along with this terrible man cause he just wants to get home. Lulu also goes along with as a guide as this powerful mage may be able to destroy Sin once and for all, methods be damned.

And this is just the first act. Don't you see what a great game this would be?
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 2:02:05 PM
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Honestly "what if character ___ replaced ___" is a kinda fun question. I honestly can't tell you what happens if Braska replaces Yuna other than RikkuxTidus ship probably becomes canon which only improves the game but you know. What if X-Death replaced Yuna, however, now that's a story worth telling that is defined by more than shifting love interests.

And the sad truth is Golbez is discount X-Death, really. I like Golbez but that Zeromus cop-out kinda ruins him. X-Death is just pure quality bad guy who has a surprising amount of fun dialogue in the advance version too. And goes without saying that X-Death vs Galuf >>> Golbez vs Tellah.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 1:41:41 PM
#296
Put it another way

What's your favorite Braska moment?
What's his personality?
What do you like about him?
Can you describe an appeal to him whatsoever in terms of things that occur on screen?
If you were to replace Yuna with him in FFX, how would things change, if at all?
I could go on.

You probably can't answer most of these questions without googling a script for the meager amount of flashbacks he's in and forcing something.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 1:34:29 PM
#294
I mean, X-Death has a pretty well defined character and a lot of dialogue/screentime regardless of whether you want to just assume the 2D FF character is more poorly defined by default

Braska exists in like two flashbacks and just isn't really a character in FFX. That's just how it is. Doesn't mean he couldn't be if FFX-0 ever came to pass or whatever, but as it stands he's just a novelty gimmick third wheel accompanying actual characters in Auron and Jecht.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 12:56:46 PM
#291
If being a casual means you don't carry non-characters like Braska this far then I'll take the brand I guess
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 12:15:03 PM
#287
I waffle on trading. I used to be against it but I'm sorta softening on that. This contest is a good deal less interesting without it, which is probably more important than actually finding the favourite ff character or whatever.

Nowadays I don't do it more because trading takes more work than anything. Also I kinda prefer to let the cream rise to the top as they say since there are a lot of characters I'd like to see have good runs and it makes the most sense to support the natural strongest than to drag dead weight I like a bit more. Hence why I'm okay doing a trade pact with Charon because that's low work and because I didn't initiate it I'm bolstering the strength of someone who has it without my interference so we're still letting Creamour Guado rise to the top in a normal kinda way, sorta. I'm also reasonably confident that if Gaffgarion outlasts some lesser FFT characters he'll get a little stronger so that's a factor.

Later rounds though? Yeah, I'll do it myself.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 11:22:14 AM
#278
I just think "casual" is a poor way to describe someone who doesn't trade.

Like would you call me or Nick "casual" X-Death supporters despite us getting him to the top half by being like 90% of his saves. That seems silly.

I'd call myself a casual supporter of a lot of characters because I tend to join things that have momentum to shake things up (including Sephiroth in a lot of years-- this one was looking possible to be one had he outlasted Gaffgarion which I was expecting he would), but there were some years in there where I went pretty hard on him and would call casual misleading. Like if you're helping carry a character through the early dangerous boot rounds you're arguably helping more than the later game trader types.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 11:11:03 AM
#273
Also helps that X-Death was booted a few of those contests
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 11:09:58 AM
#272
"Casual" supporters can be the difference between 80s and 10s. Religiously netting 1-2 saves every round (I sometimes trade) can make a big difference especially if they save early and especially if the character doesn't have the most reliable save base like Seph never has (his big supporters do miss rounds)

Pretty sure some of those years it was mostly barrel me numbers and I wanna say denzo dragging him through early rounds
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 10:54:22 AM
#266
True story I almost saved Seph today instead of Ramza. Probably should have I like him a lot more but what can I say I acknowledge the greatness of the run.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 10:49:50 AM
#264
Actually p sure I mained Sephiroth that year (to the extent I do since I've never liberally traded). I know a few of the years in the range of years when he had the string of high placements I did. I may even be the Drakeryn you were thinking of!
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TopicFinal Fantasy Record Keeper Topic 46: All hail our goddess Fran!
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09/30/19 10:47:18 AM
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I popped in for the free draw and went 4/40

Celes Chain Dupe
Refia USB
Refia LMR
Garner Glint

Oh well. Maybe in 3 more months
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/30/19 10:41:02 AM
#261
GenesisSaga going on high five patrol about Sephiroth is almost as bad as Evilordexdeath saying he doesn't mind X-Death's placement. Almost.
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TopicMIND BOGGLING! Supposedly what the most popular candy by state is...
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09/30/19 5:50:28 AM
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Google search volume seems like a poor way to measure this but it's interesting I guess
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/29/19 5:48:14 PM
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Ramza
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/29/19 4:34:49 PM
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Gaffgarion
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 64 [smfffc]
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09/29/19 3:11:38 PM
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Seymour Guado
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TopicScarlet Ranks User-Nominated Episodes of Television: Season 2
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09/29/19 1:23:01 AM
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Yeah I don't know everything about Angel in Buffy screams supporting character to me and I've never been big on any of the Angel episodes I've seen either. I'm skeptical there's good there.

But David Boreanaz and mentions of procedural crime dramas... maybe I'll nominate a Bones episode next time. Maybe. As someone who also generally hates the genre it's probably my favorite series from that genre so maybe we could find something that isn't hated. Maybe.
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TopicA Mafia Discussion topic
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09/29/19 1:15:54 AM
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That sucks I liked the guy for what little interaction I had. Was hoping he'd play more mafia around here too cause he wasn't bad at it despite the relatively low activity-- he at least understood that cooperating with people you think are town is generally pro town which is huge.
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TopicDid you like the movie detective pikachu?
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09/28/19 7:32:20 PM
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It was pretty good. Liked that the presentation was family friendly without quite reaching the point of "kid's movie" to me. Thought the acting was fine too-- plot was a bit dumb but it was passable.
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TopicScarlet Ranks User-Nominated Episodes of Television: Season 2
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09/28/19 1:10:35 PM
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I think Mad About You will have less potential to be terrible at least cause the subject matter probably won't be as compelled to be pop culture relevant

But the source material wasn't as good there either so who knows
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 63 [smfffc]
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09/27/19 8:58:05 PM
#193
I'll save

Lightning
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 63 [smfffc]
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09/27/19 8:57:00 PM
#191
Lightning appears unsafe
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 63 [smfffc]
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09/27/19 8:55:20 PM
#189
Well Chris who you thinkin
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 63 [smfffc]
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09/27/19 8:53:43 PM
#184
Oh looks like he was safe. Well sorry charon I was occupied anyone you want me to get
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 63 [smfffc]
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09/27/19 8:52:38 PM
#181
Seymour Guado
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 488: Grand Theft Jericho
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09/27/19 3:20:23 PM
#431
I'm more excited at the mention of X-Pac

I hope we'll see X-Pac in the ring in the year 2019
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TopicScarlet Ranks User-Nominated Episodes of Television: Season 2
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09/27/19 2:54:03 PM
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Yeah I watched a few episodes but I kinda hated it

Pretty similar to your thoughts in a way, it felt like the writers from 20 years ago were still there telling the same jokes, but trying to spin their jokes in a way with a coat of paint that made them relevant today. Or "old people trying to tell jokes they think young people will like" to put it more simply.

Like I think I'd like the show a lot more if it was actually just set in the 90s cause man it felt so out of touch.
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TopicScarlet Ranks User-Nominated Episodes of Television: Season 2
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09/27/19 2:48:19 PM
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Hearing mention of Murphy Brown dopplegangers kinda makes me want to watch this. Not that I'm a big Murphy Brown fan or anything but it just adds some intrigue to me that wouldn't normally be there.

Not to derail from Mary Tyler Moore but speaking of Murphy Brown (I am not a big fan I swear) scarlet (or anyone else) you see any of the Murphy Brown reboot that came out last year or something
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 62 [smfffc]
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09/27/19 2:43:47 PM
#290
I was curious...

Current list of characters I'd consider saving over Seymour:

Red Mage
Leon
Edward Chris von Muir
Rydia of Mist
Sabin Rene Figaro
Cissnei
Cloud Strife
Sephiroth
Yuffie Kisaragi
Squall Leonhart
Rikku
Lightning
Delita Hyral
Goffard Gaffgarion
Ramza Beoulve
Agns Oblige

I'm not sure even most of these have to be eliminated for me to start free saving him, as there are a lot of factors that go into what I'll save and I like Seymour more than a lot of these, but those would be the only ones I'm even considering free saving over him ever.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 62 [smfffc]
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09/27/19 2:29:52 PM
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v_charon posted...
But I don't think you're going to be free saving him for a while so sure, accepted.


That's why I'm proposing it. I'll disbar it should eliminations fall that I'd naturally be saving him in the first save or two, but that's pretty far off.
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TopicSpider Man returns to the Marvel Cinematic Universe! (for now)
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09/27/19 2:07:32 PM
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And don't forget the great Hobgoblin
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 62 [smfffc]
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09/27/19 12:33:33 PM
#285
I'll take that charon for my boy Goffard
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 488: Grand Theft Jericho
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09/27/19 11:59:58 AM
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I mean if Seth made it way more short and was just like "I've always wanted to have a match with the legendary @WWEReyMysterio619 we're gonna burn it down out there next week" I don't think it'd be as dumb. But it's like he just went so elaborate it doesn't seem like genuine excitement and it's worth making fun of.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 488: Grand Theft Jericho
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09/26/19 10:23:22 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
Also we're literally several posts into discussing whether or not Rollins post was a work or shoot and that's literally what they want.


I'm not sure they want it in this way

Is Seth Rollins a whiny nerdrager in character or for real doesn't seem like something you'd want to be a discussion point for your top babyface
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 488: Grand Theft Jericho
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09/26/19 9:58:25 PM
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Rollins would be a great character if he was presented as a heel who deluded himself into thinking he's the face of the company.

Read his tweets as a heel character and it's much better.
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TopicScarlet Ranks User-Nominated Episodes of Television: Season 2
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09/26/19 9:29:00 PM
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I didn't think this set was significantly more obscure than the last, but I've only seen around 20-25 (there are a few I'm unsure cause I've seen a lot of the series but I don't care to look up episode titles) so I guess it is? I dunno! I probably was on the low end of episodes seen from the last set though
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