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Yeah I just heard KH3 was considered a letdown or at the very least hotly contested and I just knew Portal 2 would have enough strength in the tank somehow.

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I picked RDR thinking P4G would underperform due to being a port. Obviously I was wrong.

You write really well, but while you're allowed to write however you want, it does seem a bit heavy on analysis of past stats.

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Red Dead Redemption 1 was against Ghost Trick. RDR2's match hasn't taken place yet.

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Dante got last in the quarterfinals in '08.

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Nice to have the confirmation that Pikachu really is on Crono's level, meaning Magus leeched Crono to holy heck in '13.

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Grand Kirby posted...

I think it's clear you need someone like Kevin Feige to make it work like the MCU. All the other cinematic universes that have crashed and burned is proof of that.

Of course, having blueprints for a trilogy isn't as hard as creating a massive universe, so I only assume they didn't feel like the movies needed a strong overarching direction because they felt Star Wars fans would eat it up no matter what. And they were half right...

When The Force Awakens came out, the MCU was getting backlash over the films supposedly feeling overly "made by committee", with it not helping that there had been a number of high-profile clashes between the directors and Marvel Entertainment. So the whole deal with Star Wars was that each director would have creative freedom. Once Marvel got its stuff back together it became plainly obvious that this approach was not going to work for Star Wars.

The other big blockbuster films of 2015 aside from The Force Awakens were stuff like Jurassic World, Furious 7, Age of Ultron, and Minions, then there were also flops like Terminator: Genisys, Fant4stic, and Pixels. The previous year's biggest hit was Transformers 4, and other big hits from that year included Hobbit 3 and Maleficent. Oh my freaking god what an awful decade for blockbuster cinema.

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Motivated to ask having just watched Rise of the Planet of the Apes again.

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The new Planet of the Apes trilogy was so much stronger than this crapfest and yet Disney owns Fox. There is no justice in this world.

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Peridiam posted...

I dont.

That would explain it then. I'll admit I had to watch a lot of movies from those decades to properly appreciate the original trilogy, and that the franchise did not really leave much of an impact on me growing up.

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Peridiam posted...

I saw it tonight in 4DX. I had no idea that was a thing but I also never watch movies in theaters (or watch movies much at all these days) so I decided to give IX a go with this weird immersive experience.

4DX was pretty cool. Lotta air puffs to my head. The back punches were a fun touch.

I enjoyed the movie and from an outside observer of the SW fanbase I didnt get much of the criticism in this topic. But then Ive also never found any of the films to be that great, including the OT. Id probably rank the ST above the OT even (but the PT is still last, ugh the acting/script were so bad there... painful).

I might have TRoS at the top of my rankings, which probably seems abhorrent to the superfans of the series. Either that or TFA. It took me two watches to get on board with TLJ. I still find the OT to be basic and more just relics of their time. Very cheesy and overhyped. Again, blasphemous opinions, but I rewatched the OT before TFA and did not get what made them so good. They were fine, simple, but not much more. Kinda like I had to be there at the time, or have been raised on them, to truly fall in love.

TRoS wasnt perfect and Ive definitely begun to question more of it after reading through the problems brought up in this topic, but then Im also like... well, Im not sure Ive ever loved SW more than anyone here anyway, so perhaps Im not critical enough of the series, or Im viewing it wrong, or its just not my jam (despite enjoying the ST a decent amount). A part of me wonders if SW needs to be viewed so critically, because I dont think its intended to be, but the other part of me gets it. Im fairly critical of the stuff I go crazy for, so why not SW? I dunno!

7 > 9 > 8 right now.

Do you watch movies from the '70s and '80s all that often?

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I never hated TLJ. I just didn't like it.

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Waluigi1 posted...

Cause it's definitely not Rian Johnson's fault for purposefully shitting on everything JJ was trying to set up and leaving him with a mess to clean up.

I know, it was totally Johnson who decided that this last movie should be a grand finale for the whole saga instead of just closing this one trilogy. Oh wait.

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Thought ROTJ was a fantastic conclusion to the trilogy when I watched the movies last year. Admittedly it isn't that great as a standalone film, but it's not a standalone film so it's not fair to judge it solely as that. It's a feature-length Act 3, and as that it's pretty amazing! I do understand most of the common complaints against the film, but I've never disliked the Ewoks.

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Nominate:

BB-8 (Star Wars)
Arachnid (Starship Troopers)

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Well it was also because John McClane was ranked as Mid Fodder.

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Paratroopa1 posted...

Also I got a genuine laugh out of "I'M THE SPY"

I still think it's legitimately funny

A nice idea that ultimately meant nothing, just like the reveal of Rey's ancestry. This movie seems like it was specifically made to be as inconsequential as possible so as to piss off the fewest people possible, which is disappointing.

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

It was a pretty clear copy of ESB tho

Only in so far as having to follow a similar plot structure due to being Act 2 of the trilogy. Though TBH I never really understood why the sequel trilogy gets so much criticism for being the "same" as the original trilogy - to me that's like saying Con Air is the same movie as Die Hard. There are just a lot of similar occurrences, which may be deliberate to sell the concept of a generational saga. When you think about it, the prequels were no different.

That being said, I may just not have the original trilogy's plot ingrained enough into my mind to pick up on this. The Last Jedi was the one of the new trilogy where I did pick up on considerable similarities to the OT and I had just watched that.

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I rated Dyna Blade as Mid Fodder on the misconception that he's (?) a boss in Smash Ultimate, but then I remember that's actually Marx. So change rating to Low Fodder.

Was considering rating Hans LAW Fodder, but if Jar-Jar can make it to Low surely Hans can?

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Nominate:

Koopa Paratroopa (Mario)
Lakitu (Mario)
Spiny (Mario)
Lubba (Super Mario Galaxy 2)
Kyle Reese (Terminator)
Newt (Aliens)
Jake Sully (Avatar)
Patches the Hyena (Demon's Souls)

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I liked it when I played it but I can't help but reflect on the game negatively. In hindsight I'd probably find it average.

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Low Fodder for Hans, Mid Fodder for the other two

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Oh yeah that was fantastic.

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Saw this with family yesterday, an appropriate subtitle would have been "contractual obligation".

I have no problem with the idea of Rey being related to Palpatine - to me it was actually a pretty interesting role reversal for the hero to be related to the previous villain while the villain was related to the previous heroes - but like so much of this movie it felt forced. No pun intended?

My two biggest problems with this film were Palpatine's return being poorly set up and the way exposition was handled, with the same abundance of shot reverse shots as the prequels and Rogue One only this time they felt completely rushed. Fix up those two and this movie probably improves quite a lot. On a scale of 1-10 I give this movie a 5, but very close to a 6.

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I almost have to wonder if people disappointed with Prime 4 will look back on Other M more fondly, just like how the prequel trilogy's reputation improved after the sequel trilogy and how Terminator: Genisys's reputation improved after Terminator: Dark Fate.

Especially since Other M was better-written than Terminator: Genisys.

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Well it took me until last year to fully appreciate the original trilogy, and I felt like I had to understand how cinema generally was at around that time - I also watched the likes of The Godfather, Chinatown, and Halloween right before watching the OT.

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pjbasis posted...

I'm getting more Jurassic World vibes imo

So much better!

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Grimlyn posted...

yeah but Metroid's the original LMS shitpost topic

he was stuck on Other M for almost a damn decade

Stupid thing is I find the game itself forgettable other than a certain character being so wrong in every conceivable way.

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It has undergone so many production troubles, and it's starting to give me Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Star Wars sequel trilogy, and Terminator: Dark Fate vibes as an overextended story and a hasty attempt at course-correction.

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Would Wall-E really be stronger than Mad Max or Rocky? I guess he might due to being a robot?

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Sarah Connor

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

bruh, the other star wars movies were also blockbusters

Yeah sure George made the first movie just to get a lot of money, yep.

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New Star Wars fails because the movies are engineered specifically to be events, which is not necessarily bad but is a complete 180 from how the original six films were made in the first place.

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I really liked First Contact.

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TheRock1525 posted...

Indiana Jones is the most egregious.

Blues Brothers 2000
Every Terminator after 2

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More like 10-year anniversary of Avatar

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He's an Oscar winner for writing Argo.

And another credited writer for Batman v. Superman wrote the likes of Blade, Dark City, and The Dark Knight trilogy.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

bruh, the other star wars movies were also blockbusters

I do agree that it's stupid to judge movies ENTIRELY on the basis of whether they were made for commercial reasons or not (by that logic, Battlefield Earth is better than The Godfather), but the more commercial nature of the new Star Wars films literally explains most of the problems with them.

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People who prefer the prequel trilogy largely do so because it was at least George Lucas's vision, just like the original trilogy, while the new films are a complete 180 from that and are specifically engineered to be event films that will grab most movie-going audiences who only watch a few movies in the theater every year - and are thus more likely to pick something they're familiar with.

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I would ask how someone could prefer TLJ to the first movie but I'm just a guy who prefers older movies in general so whatever.

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Do you like sand?

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The Empire Strikes Back almost easily takes the top spot for me - the only thing the original film has over it for me is being faster-paced. I would even sooner consider ranking Return of the Jedi over the original since it felt like it still carried over a lot of what made Empire better, but I feel like not doing so because ROTJ has like no ambition and is basically a feature-length Act 3, though what an Act 3 it is! Anyway, I give the nod to the original over ROTJ because without it you wouldn't have the franchise.

I vaguely remember liking The Force Awakens when it came out but not thinking much of it otherwise, and reflecting back on it the film had quite some leaps in logic, but I get the feeling I might still like it. Didn't care for The Last Jedi but found it more unengaging than bad. Was very disappointed in Rogue One but it wasn't really all that bad in hindsight, just not very good is all. Don't like what I've seen of Solo and it has been too long since I saw the prequel trilogy.

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I blame Harvey Weinstein and his aggressive Oscar campaigns.

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I miss the days when serious dramas weren't just made to win awards. I know which individual is most at fault for this.

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Yes because there's no way it will suffer some of the same problems as TLJ.

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6/10, so not really. Not entirely sure whether I prefer Alien or Aliens, but if I had to pick one I might go with the latter.

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Nominate Giselle (Enchanted)

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

also, i think the point therock was making was with ghostbusters '16 tons of people were like "THIS IS NOT MY GHOSTBUSTERS" and now with this trailer people are like "oh wow this looks awesome who cares if it doesn't look like ghostbusters i just want a good movie!! "

personally, i'd assume it's actually different people saying those things but maybe i'm giving people too much credit.

I agree, the general tone of the backlash towards the Ghostbusters reboot did become pretty darn sexist in the end, at least compared to other recent reboots/remakes that didn't get anywhere near the same amount of vitriol thrown their way like the Ben-Hur remake announced shortly AFTER. Surely Ghostbusters isn't THAT big of a deal, right?

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TheRock1525 posted...

I mean it's literally a movie where everyone fails. Rey fails, Kylo fails, Luke fails, Finn fails, Poe fails, Leia fails, Snoke fails, Rose fails, etc.

On one hand I appreciate something entirely unique to the franchise. On the other hand... what was the point? Where we start and end the film is largely unchanged.

Second in the trilogy syndrome. The Empire Strikes Back got over the hump by expanding on the scope of the universe and being thematically strong.

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Nice that it seems this film is doing something different and helps assuage my fears that this is another Blues Brothers 2000, but the trailer doesn't really hook me. And these franchise revivals really need to stop.

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Seriously, Captain Marvel had only token attempts at any sort of female empowerment arc, and I was fine with that one scene in Endgame but still. It's like the MCU is now just playing catch-up. DCEU is putting out two female-led movies next year and they both look more exciting than Black Widow does.

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