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Nominate:

Korath the Pursuer (Marvel)
Nightmare (Metroid)
Voldemort (Harry Potter)
Ashley Graham (Resident Evil 4)
Ramon Salazar (Resident Evil 4)
Jack Krauser (Resident Evil)
Sherry Birkin (Resident Evil)
William Birkin (Resident Evil)
Leatherface (The Texas Chainsaw Massacre)
Freddy Krueger (A Nightmare On Elm Street)
Jason Voorhees (Friday the 13th)
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"Nothing I could do!"
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Nominate:

Marion Ravenwood (Indiana Jones)
Uncle Fester (The Addams Family)
Gambit (X-Men)
Blob (X-Men)
Emma Frost (X-Men)
Silver Fox (X-Men)
Spike (Ape Escape)
Sackboy (LittleBigPlanet)
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If there's one contest I wouldn't mind mass rallies for it would be this one.
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Also amazing how much the new Predator movie missed the appeal of the original.
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Nominate Sabretooth and William Stryker.
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Lopen posted...

Mainstream pick I'd probably agree with Wonder Woman. Think it got massively overpraised due to abysmal expectations for any movie with DC branding. It was fine but worse than your typical Marvel origin movie.

Also that summer's slate was awful. And there had never been a well-received female-led superhero movie before.

2017 feels like it was such a s***show for movies that critics acted like anything remotely "good" was practically the second coming. It seems only Star Wars fans caught on.
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Seginustemple posted...

It's just so well executed in so many ways - cinematography, editing, orchestral score, vfx, creature design, casting. Has group character establishment ever been more efficient than that 150 second chopper ride? Granted they aren't deep characters but I've seen so many movies spend 45 minutes gathering a party that doesn't have half the personality of that crew

I was thinking that too. It's like on par with the police line-up in The Usual Suspects for scenes that establish the main characters so well.
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Nominate:

Boris Grishenko (Goldeneye)
Ethan Mars (Heavy Rain)
Steve Burnside (Resident Evil: Code Veronica)
Ashley Williams (Evil Dead)
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I pick Rogue One.
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Honestly LAW Fodder for Asterix sounds about right. If Sarah Connor and Michael Corleone are Low Fodder, Asterix should logically be below even them - those two are practically household names by comparison.

High Fodder for the other two.
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Nominate:

Kingpin (Marvel)
Bullseye (Marvel)
Elektra Natchios (Marvel)
Cream the Rabbit (Sonic)
Vector the Crocodile (Sonic)
Espio the Chameleon (Sonic)
Charmy Bee (Sonic)
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Nominate:

Hope van Dyne/The Wasp (Marvel)
Janet van Dyne (Marvel)
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Nominate:

Pietro Maximoff/Quicksilver (Marvel)
Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch (Marvel)
Vision (Marvel)
Emil Blonsky/The Abomination (Marvel)
Blade (Marvel)
Deacon Frost (Marvel)
Ivan Vanko/Whiplash (Marvel)
The Mandarin (Marvel)
Malekith the Accursed (Marvel)
Ronan the Accuser (Marvel)
Helmut Zemo (Marvel)
Hank Pym (Marvel)
Bucky Barnes (Marvel)
Dormammu (Marvel)
Ghost (Marvel)
Bill Foster (Marvel)
Yon-Rogg (Marvel)
Koopa the Quick (Super Mario 64)
Il Piantissimo (Super Mario Sunshine)
Cosmic Mario (Super Mario Galaxy)
Sheva Alomar (Resident Evil 5)
Melissa Bergman (Metroid: Other M)
Jake Muller (Resident Evil 6)
Ro-Man (Robot Monster/Manos: The Hands of Fate)
Groose (The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword)
Xenomorph Queen (Aliens)
The Giant Claw (The Giant Claw/Manos: The Hands of Fate)
Oerba Yun Fang (Final Fantasy XIII)
Sir Daniel Fortesque (MediEvil)
Morrigan Aensland (Darkstalkers)
Cpl. Dwayne Hicks (Aliens)
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-Darksydephil

To be fair his only contest appearance had him sharing a poll with Kirby.
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I watched Tron last Sunday and didn't have as good a time as I had last time I watched it (a little over five years ago, this is my second time). It's a pretty typical fantasy story redeemed by an interesting set-up, exposition that feels natural, a compelling lead performance from Jeff Bridges, visuals that are somewhat spell-binding even by today's standards (movie's a bit too proud of its CGI though, but at least it was depicting stuff inside a computer so the datedness has an excuse), and an underrated villain in Edward Dillinger, who seems like someone Trump would get along with. David Lisberger seems like another George Lucas-type who's better at directing special effects than actors. I can see how this movie inspired John Lasseter to make feature-length CGI movies, but too bad he turned out to be the PG version of Harvey Weinstein.

I started Gone with the Wind last night and finished it this morning. I was inspired to watch it by one YouTube channel that posed the question of whether the movie is worth watching in light of a screening of the movie in some vintage theater being cancelled for values reasons, and I'll answer a resounding "yes" with some reservations.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

To reiterate, Halloween is probably the most garbage major slasher franchise ever. I guess it just shows you how powerful the original is.

The newest one received good reviews. Past that I guess Rob Zombie's remakes, the original Halloween II, Halloween III, and Halloween H2O have their fans?
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yes
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It's more the sheer volume of it and the way people who hate the movie express themselves. Like:

-Acting like the movie sucks for reasons that most people won't care about or pick up on
-Calling critics "paid" or "shills" for liking the movie as if critics HAVE to agree with fans
-Acting like the new films are "attacking our mythology", wow, no one says that about additions to the stories of Casablanca and Gone with the Wind, what's so different about Star Wars?
-Acting like TLJ alone is to blame for the franchise's decline when that makes no sense - e.g. there are other reasons Solo flopped
-Generally acting like Star Wars is only for them rather than being a global phenomenon from the very beginning
-Making some criticisms that just plain carry undertones of bigotry
-Acting like Kathleen Kennedy is some meddlesome freak when if anything, her biggest mistake in running Lucasfilm has been just letting everyone do whatever.
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Amazing how much negativity I'm expressing towards the film in this topic given how I feel the level of hate it gets is still ridiculous, though understandable all things considered.
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The more I think about it, the more I realize how wrong a choice to direct TLJ Rian Johnson was, undoubtedly talented though he is. TLJ is basically the cinematic equivalent of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
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Main theme from John Carpenter's The Thing
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I think the idea with Rey is that she's discovering her force abilities on her own as she goes. While her being overpowered is still a valid criticism, it makes me wonder if some Star Wars fans are so dim-witted they need information spoon fed to them, like how we're literally told of Anakin's force sensitivity in Episode I without having him demonstrate it for a while.
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Nominate Hawkeye
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CassandraCain posted...

LinkMarioSamus posted...

I don't understand how Star Wars fans get outraged at being called bigots when they literally blame the main characters' race and gender for the films' faults.

hashtag not all star wars fans

I for one thought Holdo was a good character

I'm not a fan of the movie either, I'm not saying anyone who dislikes TLJ is racist or sexist, and to be fair I don't think anyone actually said that. Or at least wasn't specifically addressing people with legitimate gripes.
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I once asked how someone could think TLJ is worse than the prequels on YouTube, giving a list of all the dumb crap in the latter, and they replied with "How about three letters SJW".

Good to know the ridiculous culture wars are clouding peoples' judgements on the films. I don't understand how Star Wars fans get outraged at being called bigots when they literally blame the main characters' race and gender for the films' faults.
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GANON1025 posted...

Ugh MauLer, I think that guys sucks.

Stupid guy is literally hung up on how people with "Stone Age technology" can mine Vibranium when it's clear to anyone the Wakandans only pretend to have Stone Age tech. About as good a reason as any for me not to watch his rage video on Black Panther, which I know I like a lot (no masterpiece, but still).
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ExThaNemesis posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

*flees*

flees, more like floats through space

Oh yeah, this and the whole "dropping bombs in space" thing, I mean, I know even in the original trilogy the space combat scenes owed a lot to aerial dogfights, but now it's just reaching the breaking point. Also the First Order could have just shot the Resistance ships fleeing the base at the beginning instead of pounding the base. Oh well. To be fair, this movie's director told people not to worry about how time travel works in Looper so perhaps we should have expected this, but wow the more I think about it Rian Johnson was not a good choice to direct TLJ.
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Kylo isn't really meant to be intimidating. I like how he seems to grow into his role as the villain as the films progress. Interesting how for all the flack the sequel trilogy gets for re-hashing the original trilogy, the things it does differently tend to draw the most ire from fans. Although the new stuff TLJ introduces to the franchise feels forced and doesn't contribute much to me.

Never had much problem with The Force Awakens "re-hashing" A New Hope anyway. It isn't even really a re-hash, it just has lots of similar occurrences. The prequels weren't arguably any different, not to mention by this logic many action movies of the '90s were re-hashes of Die Hard. And it's hardly a plot Star Wars invented in the first place anyway!

Also a lot of sequel trilogy haters bring up MauLer, who seems to be to this trilogy what Mr. Pinkett was to the prequels. I've tried watching his critique of The Force Awakens and am 15 minutes into part 2 - and uh, I think he makes some good points about how the film runs on plot contrivances to make it similar to A New Hope, but that information could have been conveyed in A LOT less time. Not to mention I swear he's a robot.
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Technically Gwen was in Spider-Man 3, but the less said about that the better I suppose.

Also she's one of the main characters of Into the Spider-verse.
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I don't think it's necessarily just as a backlash towards the new trilogy. The prequels are probably just nostalgic to a lot of people now. The 2nd and 3rd Jurassic Park movies have gone through a similar resurgence in popularity, as has Predator 2.

I think the prequel trilogy's main problem was that it simply lacked the widespread appeal of the original trilogy, which is I suppose a little unfair. Conversely many problems with the sequel trilogy seem to arise from an attempt to chase after the same widespread appeal the original trilogy just so happened to have without actively going for it. That being said, when I re-watched the OT last year I finished with more of a desire to see what happens next than what happened before, so I'm firmly in the anti-prequel camp (also remember not liking the films, and when I watched the CinemaWins of them recently I just came away thinking "meh, this is just not for me").
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"Nothing I could do!"
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I think it's a combination of the prequels somehow fitting better with the franchise, people who watched them as kids growing up, and the idea that the sequels are worse just because they are made for primarily commercial reasons.

At least one big flaw with The Last Jedi - the excessive amount of Hollywood Tactics - plagues the prequels too.
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I actually kind of like Kylo Ren as a character. My biggest gripe with the sequel trilogy is the evil faction being very nebulously-defined to the point it's hard for me to get invested in the story. Kylo's the exception to that, but I understand why people think he doesn't make a good villain.

That said, he's probably a more fleshed-out character than Darth Vader was at this point in the OT.
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It's actually kind of nice to see optimism in this topic instead of dread. Feels like a lot of the places where Star Wars fans typically congregate online are the ones most likely to attract people who loathe TLJ and the film's audience reception is otherwise generally good.

Basically, TLJ is not divisive in the typical way, it's more universally-hated by a subset of the Star Wars fanbase and generally well-liked otherwise.
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I would say I'm amazed at the prequel bashing in this topic, but if The Nostalgia Critic can keep taking shots at them...

The trailer is pretty nice, but I dunno, I just do not feel invested enough in the ongoing trilogy to want to see this. I vaguely remember liking TFA and found TLJ more unengaging than truly bad, but neither film did much for me in the long run.
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Nominate Groot
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Nominate:

Lester the Unlikely
Dorothy Gale (The Wizard of Oz)
Scarecrow (The Wizard of Oz)
Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz)
Cowardly Lion (The Wizard of Oz)
The Wicked Witch of the West (The Wizard of Oz)
Marty McFly (Back to the Future p)
Dr. Emmett Brown (Back to the Future)
Biff Tannen (Back to the Future)
Chin (Hong Kong '97)
Captain Novolin
Peter Venkman (Ghostbusters)
Gozer (Ghostbusters)
Big Rig (Big Rigs)
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-Darksydephil

If you're going to call popular recent movies "not cinema", the MCU seems like a weird target to pick. Even the recent Star Wars films would make a better target, to say nothing of stuff like the new Jurassic Park films, the Fast & Furious films, or the Disney live-action remakes.

The MCU movies at least try to prioritize telling good stories in comparison to those other films I mentioned which are specifically meant to be "events" first, stories second.

Strange all around. Also I know it's only like two people, but what is up with the Scorsese bashing in this topic?
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Nominate:

Ant-Man (Marvel)
Peter Quill/Star-Lord (Marvel)
Rocket Raccoon (Marvel)
Boba Fett (Star Wars)
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"Nothing I could do!"
-Darksydephil

Nominate:

Apollo Creed (Rocky)
Ivan Drago (Rocky)
Obadiah Stane/Iron Monger (Marvel)
Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow (Marvel)
James Rhodes/War Machine (Marvel)
Steve Rogers/Captain America (Marvel)
Johann Schmidt/Red Skull (Marvel)
Ultron (Marvel)
Steven Strange/Doctor Strange (Marvel)
Gamora (Marvel)
Drax the Destroyer (Marvel)
Ego the Living Planet (Marvel)
Valkyrie (Marvel)
Killmonger (Marvel)
Hela, Goddess of the Underworld (Marvel)
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"Nothing I could do!"
-Darksydephil

Nominate:

Norman Osborn/Green Goblin (Marvel)
Mary Jane Watson (Marvel)
Harry Osborn/New Goblin (Marvel)
Otto Octavius/Dr. Octopus (Marvel)
Flint Marko/Sandman (Marvel)
Curt Connors/The Lizard (Marvel)
Adrian Toomes/The Vulture (Marvel)
Quentin Beck/Mysterio (Marvel)
Lando Calrissian (Star Wars)
Yoda (Star Wars)
Aragog (Harry Potter)
Admiral Ackbar (Star Wars)
Mon Mothma (Star Wars)
Qui-Gon Jinn (Star Wars)
Padme Amidala (Star Wars)
Jane Foster (Marvel)
R2D2 (Star Wars)
C3PO (Star Wars)
Wall-E (Wall-E)
Darth Maul (Star Wars)
General Grievous (Star Wars)
Admiral Armitage Hux (Star Wars)
Supreme Leader Snoke (Star Wars)
Vice-Admiral Amilyn Holdo (Star Wars)
Rose Tico (Star Wars)
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-Darksydephil

Saw Hotel Artemis on Friday with my mom, was very forgettable.

Saw Predator (the original) last Sunday and what a movie. Probably not one of my favorites but I think I found something I liked in every scene, even if it might have just been the cinematography. How did Schwarzenegger keep finding roles he was perfectly cast for back then? First Terminator and then this. Makes the new Predator film look horrible though.
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Do you guys not have phones?
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I actually watched a movie two days ago whose title character had to be redesigned in the middle of production. The difference is that it was Predator and no one not involved in the production knew at the time.
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Losing to Crash only looked so bad because of how weak Crash has historically been. Crash is a beloved old school icon now just like Pikachu. I'd ask how people ignored the Crash remakes, but it's not like this site really takes to new stuff that much. Then again, Cecil did lose to a Mass Effect character once.
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"Nothing I could do!"
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Mid Fodder for Sniper Wolf.

Low Midcarder for Magneto

Mid Fodder for Kylo Ren?
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"Nothing I could do!"
-Darksydephil

When I saw The Dark Knight last year, it felt like the movie couldn't make up its mind on whether it wanted to be a superhero movie or a crime drama, so it decided to just switch between the two with every new scene. It did both incredibly well, but they kind of hurt each other.

And yet, still the closest a superhero movie has come to being a masterpiece.
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Mid Fodder for Hero, Low Fodder for Lady and Harry

Nominate:

Spawn (Spawn)
Amelia Black (Age of Empires III)
Vulcan Raven (Metal Gear Solid)
Frank Jaeger/Gray Fox/Cyborg Ninja (Metal Gear Solid)
Solidus Snake (Metal Gear Solid 2)
Vamp (Metal Gear Solid 2)
Fortune (Metal Gear Solid 2)
Fatman (Metal Gear Solid 2)
Vito Corleone (The Godfather)
Big Boy Caprice (Dick Tracy)
Tony Montana (Scarface)
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"Nothing I could do!"
-Darksydephil

Christian Bale is the best Batman even with the goofy Bat-voice.

Speaking of which, why do people make such a big deal out of it? It's silly, yeah, but I at least can see what they were trying to do, and those films have plenty of much bigger problems.
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I think it's because Ryu is the main character?
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Okay, the guy from Roger Rabbit is Eddie Valiant. Eddie Valentine is a crime boss from The Rocketeer. I meant to nominate the former.

Nominate:

King Ghidorah (Godzilla)
Mothra (Godzilla)
Mecha-Godzilla (Godzilla)
Zilla (Godzilla)
Gigan (Godzilla)
Ebirah (Godzilla)
Megalon (Godzilla)
Biollante (Godzilla)
Chaos (Sonic Adventure)
Michael "Goob" Yagoobian/Bowler Hat Guy (Meet the Robinsons)
Gamera (Gamera)
Chicken Little (Chicken Little/Kingdom Hearts II)
Chex Warrior (Chex Quest)
Eleven (Stranger Things)
Mystique (Marvel)
Magneto (Marvel)
Storm (Marvel)
Nightcrawler (Marvel)
Kitty Pryde (Marvel)
Rogue (Marvel)
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"Nothing I could do!"
-Darksydephil