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Seginustemple 12/18/19 9:16:52 PM #102: |
When has reuniting 60+ year old actors from an older movie ever gone well?
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Leonhart4 12/18/19 9:39:40 PM #103: |
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HanOfTheNekos 12/19/19 1:12:04 AM #104: |
TheRock1525 posted...
"The PT was worth it because it added to the loooooooore!" PT was worth it because, since Lucas was involved, it was still the same genre. The issue with the new films is that they don't actually know what Star Wars is, so they don't really mesh well. Rian Johnson's vision could have been executed well, but literally was impossible after TFA set different tracks. TFA didnt know how to be Star Wars so it banked on copying what had come before to account for the fact that it was trying not to be the PT, which meant it was trying not to be Star Wars. Prequel trilogy had bad writing and acting at points, but the movies were still Star Wars. Lucas isn't a great movie maker but he understands his creation at least. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 12/19/19 1:15:16 AM #105: |
"the new films aren't even Star Wars" is a take I can't even begin to wrap my head around
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TheRock1525 12/19/19 1:24:01 AM #106: |
Paratroopa1 posted...
"the new films aren't even Star Wars" is a take I can't even begin to wrap my head aroundEspecially since the PT has less in common with the OT than the ST does. Both in content and tone. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoolCly 12/19/19 1:28:42 AM #107: |
I'm sure that means something to Han but I don't agree with it.... these movies are definitely Star Wars.
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HanOfTheNekos 12/19/19 2:05:33 AM #108: |
TheRock1525 posted...
Especially since the PT has less in common with the OT than the ST does. Both in content and tone. That's the same as arguing that Lion King 2 is less of a Lion King movie than Kimba. There's tons of material in the Star Wars franchise that you can look at to see if things fit the setting or not. TLJ is clearly outside of the setting. TFA is not but it doesn't really do anything besides echo stuff that came before it, which is why it's a serviceable film but a disappointing star wars film. Like I said - despite being a lackluster filmmaker by himself, Lucas is still the creator and there's a notable difference without him. This literally happens in every single other piece of media where the creator stops being involved after a certain point. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/19/19 2:30:36 AM #109: |
I'm tired as shit and did not make that point well, but I'll explain better tomorrow (maybe).
But basicslly? TFA tries to be a Star Wars movie and fails because it's just a recreation. TLJ tries to be something different and fails because it doesnt fit the tone or themes of the established setting (specifically mainline star wars movies). --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkMarioSamus 12/19/19 9:51:39 AM #110: |
New Star Wars fails because the movies are engineered specifically to be events, which is not necessarily bad but is a complete 180 from how the original six films were made in the first place.
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LinkMarioSamus 12/19/19 9:53:02 AM #111: |
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
bruh, the other star wars movies were also blockbusters Yeah sure George made the first movie just to get a lot of money, yep. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 12/19/19 9:56:48 AM #112: |
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Aecioo 12/19/19 10:01:49 AM #113: |
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Murphiroth 12/19/19 10:23:46 AM #114: |
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pjbasis 12/19/19 1:13:41 PM #115: |
LinkMarioSamus posted...
New Star Wars fails because the movies are engineered specifically to be events, which is not necessarily bad but is a complete 180 from how the original six films were made in the first place. But event movies succeed all the time. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 12/19/19 1:28:19 PM #116: |
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Yeah sure George made the first movie just to get a lot of money, yep. it is probably a reasonable assumption that Lucas expected to make a decent amount of money from his 11 million dollar space samurai movie, yeah --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xiahou Shake 12/19/19 1:52:32 PM #117: |
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Yeah sure George made the first movie just to get a lot of money, yep.Literally any movie you've ever heard of has this intent, yes. Not that it's at all a bad thing, but don't delude yourself into thinking any art that's marketed exists for its own sake. (Least of all multimillion studio productions) --- Let the voice of love take you higher, With this gathering power, go beyond even time! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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banananor 12/19/19 3:22:09 PM #118: |
they're certainly star wars movies
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LinkMarioSamus 12/19/19 4:34:33 PM #119: |
Well it took me until last year to fully appreciate the original trilogy, and I felt like I had to understand how cinema generally was at around that time - I also watched the likes of The Godfather, Chinatown, and Halloween right before watching the OT.
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Leonhart4 12/19/19 7:29:20 PM #120: |
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ninkendo 12/19/19 11:58:24 PM #121: |
So far we're 4 for 4 of people I know that love the movie I'm almost wondering if this is going to be the reverse of the last jedi where the critics didn't like it with the fans loved it
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SaveEstelle 12/20/19 12:05:06 AM #122: |
ninkendo posted...
So far we're 4 for 4 of people I know that love the movie I'm almost wondering if this is going to be the reverse of the last jedi where the critics didn't like it with the fans loved it Its early days for tracing fan score and there is the obvious risk that targeted bot campaigns will stupidly obfuscate the whole ordeal again but thus far that seems to be exactly what is happening 57% from critics 89% from audience --- Hi! I'm Quinton. Did you know that Emilia Clarke will be my wife in 2023? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SwiftyDC 12/20/19 12:07:57 AM #123: |
I don't know how I feel about this movie.
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Murphiroth 12/20/19 12:12:01 AM #124: |
Just got back, liked it overall. There's a couple specific plot points that made me raise an eyebrow, and it's too fast paced with a lot going on, but other than that I really enjoyed it.
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KokoroAkechi 12/20/19 12:23:46 AM #125: |
I saw the movie and
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Murphiroth 12/20/19 12:32:22 AM #126: |
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Murphiroth 12/20/19 12:38:34 AM #127: |
My favorite part of the sequel trilogy overall and this film specifically
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Mr Lasastryke 12/20/19 1:18:05 AM #128: |
honestly, i don't care all that much about rottentomatoes scores. i'll just wait and see what the IMDb score will end up being.
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CaptainOfCrush 12/20/19 2:08:59 AM #129: |
Can someone please make an "official" Board 8 discussion topic with the spoiler tag?
I just got to the theater. Waiting for my friends and expecting this to suck, but I do wanna discuss it immediately. I imagine this will be the last movie I care to see at midnight for years. --- Yoblazer https://imgur.com/gByqgPg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Great_Paul 12/20/19 2:37:14 AM #130: |
CaptainOfCrush posted...
Can someone please make an "official" Board 8 discussion topic with the spoiler tag? I wont link it because its a spoiler topic, but I made one. --- Bear Bro So, confirmed Santa's #1 helper is a squirrel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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