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Wedge Antilles
12/22/19 12:41:15 AM
#101:


Your mother sounds like a smart lady.

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MrGreenonion
12/22/19 2:00:49 AM
#102:


One reason I would have liked just a little more explanation of how Palpatine returned was that I fully expected it to be some kind of trick. Like I thought maybe that crane he was attached to that I guess was supposed to be keeping him alive/allowing him to move was actually operating him like a puppet, or some other kind of man-behind-the-curtain ruse. I don't really think that's an unreasonable thing to think, so if they didn't want me to think that, they really could've made it clear that I shouldn't.

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Paratroopa1
12/22/19 2:25:47 AM
#103:


MrGreenonion posted...
One reason I would have liked just a little more explanation of how Palpatine returned was that I fully expected it to be some kind of trick. Like I thought maybe that crane he was attached to that I guess was supposed to be keeping him alive/allowing him to move was actually operating him like a puppet, or some other kind of man-behind-the-curtain ruse. I don't really think that's an unreasonable thing to think, so if they didn't want me to think that, they really could've made it clear that I shouldn't.
At the start of the movie, when his voice was shifting, I thought Palpatine was going to be a fakeout and the Darth Plageuis thing was going to happen for real

That might have been interesting, might have not, I don't really know
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ninkendo
12/22/19 2:42:03 AM
#104:


kotaku review is certainly 2 guys who hated it

Jason says it's his new last place below Attack of the Clones

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CaptainOfCrush
12/22/19 3:26:53 AM
#105:


I can honestly see that if you simply aren't willing to suspend disbelief enough into buying the Palpatine return. Not only is it ridiculous, but it does cheapen Vader's sacrifice and redemption imo. I think most people acknowledge this, but we also accept Palpatine's role in this movie because it's hard to think what any writer could have done after Snoke was killed off (neither Kylo nor Hux could have carried a final installment as the big baddie).

My opinion is still torn - it would be much easier to hate on Palpatine's return if the character himself weren't so awesome and fun.

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GildedFool
12/22/19 4:22:39 AM
#106:


Should have made Kylo and Rey swap places. Corrupt Rey and have her turn Dark Side and have Ben Solo redeemed and fight her to save the galaxy.

The pieces were there and were so easy to pick up and play that way. It would have been far more interesting as a trilogy than the disconnected mess that we got.

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CaptainOfCrush
12/22/19 5:03:57 AM
#107:


Sounds interesting if they would have dropped hints and foreshadowing for the first two movies. They've never done a good job conveying that Rey/Luke were actually tempted by the dark side. For both of them, we assume it can happen only because The Emperor said it would happen. There was nothing convincingly pulling them in that direction. That only happened with Anakin in the PT and holy shit I think I actually like something from the PT more than the OT

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tyder21
12/22/19 5:48:01 AM
#108:


What a godawful mess of a movie. I'm currently ranking it as second-to-last right above AotC. It almost makes too much sense that this was written by the same guy who did Batman v Superman.

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SaveEstelle
12/22/19 6:21:18 AM
#109:


The thing with Star Wars is like, and this is especially true given how much weve seen them interact physically with their environments in VIII and IX, but when Jedi with certain knowledge become Force spirits I barely consider them dead. They can only really seem to commune/converse with Force sensitives afterward but their consciousness clearly remains intact and they get to hop, skip, and jump wherever the fuck they wish and watch over corporeality. They become Star Treks Q race or something. Sounds pretty sweet.

So while I get that itll forever remain contentious that the sequels killed off Luke and Leia at age 53, I barely even consider that a thing. Especially with the way that Leia smartly screwed things up for Palpatine by just immediately noping out of the flesh to break Bens slavery to the dark side. In my mind, Han is really the only one of the OG three whos truly dead as dirt. It feels like I have a somewhat unique perspective but whatevs.

Anyway, The Rise of Skywalker is pretty sloppy in some places but an interesting enough celebration of Star Wars despite itself. As the end of a nine-part saga it kind of sucks, so dont view it the way that marketing wants you to. As the end of a companion piece, a sequel trilogy set 30+ years after the originals, it works well enough. I like the cast far more than the prequel cast so I like the movie more than Revenge of the Sith for sure. It isnt as good as Return of the Jedi though. Meaning that each OT film remains superior to each ST film, though each ST film remains superior to each PT film. I can live with that.

The Last Jedi is probably the best sequel flick.

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LinkMarioSamus
12/22/19 6:55:38 AM
#110:


Saw this with family yesterday, an appropriate subtitle would have been "contractual obligation".

I have no problem with the idea of Rey being related to Palpatine - to me it was actually a pretty interesting role reversal for the hero to be related to the previous villain while the villain was related to the previous heroes - but like so much of this movie it felt forced. No pun intended?

My two biggest problems with this film were Palpatine's return being poorly set up and the way exposition was handled, with the same abundance of shot reverse shots as the prequels and Rogue One only this time they felt completely rushed. Fix up those two and this movie probably improves quite a lot. On a scale of 1-10 I give this movie a 5, but very close to a 6.

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JackMan
12/22/19 9:05:13 AM
#111:


Can we all just take a moment to appreciate what a worthless character Captain Phasma was? What an absolute waste of potential.

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LinkMarioSamus
12/22/19 9:35:28 AM
#112:


Oh yeah that was fantastic.

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Whiskey_Nick
12/22/19 9:46:21 AM
#113:


I feel like Phasma wasn't wasted potential. I never saw anything there. Like oh okay its a Silver Stormtrooper. Same as Boba Fett in the OT. People are all over him. He did nothing and died like a chump.

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Whiskey_Nick
12/22/19 9:46:54 AM
#114:


Now had Boba Fett showed up in Episode 9 flying a Sarlacc in the final battle. That is a thing we can all mark out for.

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Bane_Of_Despair
12/22/19 10:06:58 AM
#115:


Yea but remember when Boba watched his dad get fuckin GOT and then picked up his head

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JackMan
12/22/19 11:32:53 AM
#116:


Look, is it wrong that I wanted the cool, giant shiny stormtrooper to do at least ONE cool thing? There's literally a fight in TFA where Finn gets his ass beat by a random stormtrooper, why couldn't that have been Phasma?

It's Grievous all over again. Why do all the cool peeps I like have to job so hard?

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Pirateking2000
12/22/19 11:37:44 AM
#117:


JackMan posted...
Look, is it wrong that I wanted the cool, giant shiny stormtrooper to do at least ONE cool thing? There's literally a fight in TFA where Finn gets his ass beat by a random stormtrooper, why couldn't that have been Phasma?

It's Grievous all over again. Why do all the cool peeps I like have to job so hard?

At least Grievous had Genndy Clone Wars

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Whiskey_Nick
12/22/19 11:39:15 AM
#118:


we still need Jedi Porgs

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The_Ctes
12/22/19 2:17:00 PM
#119:


MrGreenonion posted...
both OT and PT Obi-Wan for some reason

I see several sites using the phrase "for some reason", but it was the exact same thing they did for Obi-Wan's line in TFA. It's because they wanted Sir Alec Guinness, but seeing as he's dead, they use his voice to say "Rey", which is taken from some old line where he says "afraid". Then McGregor says the rest of the line.

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XIII_rocks
12/22/19 5:06:43 PM
#120:


I didn't catch Neeson, apparently he was there too. Cool

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SaveEstelle
12/22/19 5:28:19 PM
#121:


Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Yea but remember when Boba watched his dad get fuckin GOT and then picked up his head

you just know Jango's head plopped out like three seconds after that scene ended too very tragic

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SavageInTheBox
12/22/19 6:37:14 PM
#122:


XIII_rocks posted...

Rey being a "nobody" was good, why did you ruin that god damn you rabid SW fans. Could also say the same about the way Rose was benched. Fucking shameful pieces of shit. And fuck Disney for caving to the bastards that levelled racist and sexist abuse at KMT and hounded her off social media.

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MichelBollinger
12/22/19 6:41:59 PM
#123:


Oh when did Audience drop below 90%?
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Bane_Of_Despair
12/22/19 6:43:18 PM
#124:


SavageInTheBox posted...
Rey being a "nobody" was good, why did you ruin that god damn you rabid SW fans. Could also say the same about the way Rose was benched. Fucking shameful pieces of shit. And fuck Disney for caving to the bastards that levelled racist and sexist abuse at KMT and hounded her off social media.

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Wow timjab that's very progressive of you for thinking, I didn't expect that! Good for you!

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Great_Paul
12/22/19 10:26:23 PM
#125:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2zZFtq13c4

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ZenOfThunder
12/22/19 11:34:38 PM
#126:


Not a good movie, definitely not bad

The whole thing was ruined by JJ trying to cramp his episode 8 into the beginning of this movie

They should have either kept Rian Johnson on or told JJ he had to deal with Johnsons trilogy. The pacing in this movie is the worst I think I've ever seen in something so high budget. Just a ton of missteps in producing this trilogy leading to this. It's a shame because it could have been great as either JJ doing the three movies and playing it incredibly safe or going with Johnson's change of direction and doing something crazy and new.

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TheRock1525
12/23/19 1:23:26 AM
#127:


Real talk:

Babu Frik is the best character in the ST.

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Wanglicious
12/23/19 7:58:44 AM
#128:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pAsss_nTlk

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CaptainOfCrush
12/23/19 2:14:19 PM
#129:


It's possible that I was more hyped for the RedLetterMedia review than for the actual movie.

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banananor
12/23/19 2:19:04 PM
#130:


how is the RLM review out already? the movie's been out for like 4 days

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MichelBollinger
12/23/19 2:27:51 PM
#131:


banananor posted...
how is the RLM review out already? the movie's been out for like 4 days

It's a regular review, not a Plinkett.
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SavageInTheBox
12/23/19 2:48:55 PM
#132:


Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Wow timjab that's very progressive of you for thinking, I didn't expect that! Good for you!

Ok furry

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RPGlord95
12/23/19 2:51:15 PM
#133:


Bane no!

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Corrik7
12/23/19 2:51:36 PM
#134:


SavageInTheBox posted...
Ok furry
When did you come back

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MichelBollinger
12/23/19 2:54:18 PM
#135:


RLM spoils

"If you legitimately Iike this movie you have a low IQ" - Mike
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banananor
12/23/19 2:55:03 PM
#136:


MichelBollinger posted...
It's a regular review, notna Plinkett.
oh, that makes sense. thanks!

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Bane_Of_Despair
12/23/19 2:56:32 PM
#137:


huh I guess that's coming from saying my boyfriend is a furry so I'm furry-adjacent in a completely other topic that timjab didn't post in, lol

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SavageInTheBox
12/23/19 2:57:18 PM
#138:


Corrik7 posted...
When did you come back

For the MLB playoffs, but I haven't posted much as the board very quickly reminded me why I left in the first place. Seems like most of the people with brains have been chased off since so it's even more embarrassing now.

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SavageInTheBox
12/23/19 2:57:50 PM
#139:


Bane_Of_Despair posted...
huh I guess that's coming from saying my boyfriend is a furry so I'm furry-adjacent in a completely other topic that timjab didn't post in, lol

Ok furry

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SavageInTheBox
12/23/19 2:58:49 PM
#140:


Movie sucked btw

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banananor
12/23/19 2:59:18 PM
#141:


i'm dialing the cyberbully police with my free hand right now

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SavageInTheBox
12/23/19 3:03:31 PM
#142:


Rose got benched because she was a terrible character from a terrible movie. I'm sorry you guys are so emotionally fragile and race obsessed that you're that upset about it.

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TheRock1525
12/23/19 3:08:12 PM
#143:


Oh cool timjab is back.

Welcome back to my ignore list.

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Corrik7
12/23/19 3:09:35 PM
#144:


SavageInTheBox posted...
For the MLB playoffs, but I haven't posted much as the board very quickly reminded me why I left in the first place. Seems like most of the people with brains have been chased off since so it's even more embarrassing now.
They moderate insults very heavily now. So be careful.

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SavageInTheBox
12/23/19 3:12:57 PM
#145:


TheRock1525 posted...
Oh cool timjab is back.

Welcome back to my ignore list.

Cool man

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Lightning Strikes
12/23/19 3:20:19 PM
#146:


It was fine with some highlights but flawed. Most of those flaws come from it feeling like they needed to A) invent large parts of this trilogy's plot, and B) remove random parts of The Last Jedi. This is basically a movie for people who hated The Last Jedi (for non-incel reasons), which is disappointing. TLJ was a bold step forward, this feels like Star Wars by numbers.

It was alright. But just alright.

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SavageInTheBox
12/23/19 3:21:21 PM
#147:


Lightning Strikes posted...
This is basically a movie for people who hated The Last Jedi (for non-incel reasons)

LMAO


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Lopen
12/23/19 3:39:12 PM
#148:


Lightning Strikes posted...
TLJ was a bold step forward

Strong disagree. TLJ is perceived that way through marketing/early word of mouth alone-- when you consider plot-meaningful risks taken it was almost nil. When you consider on top of that that people did not generally have issues with the "risks" taken on top of that, yeah.

I mean I haven't seen Skywalker yet but while I would say TLJ took more risks than TFA by merit of not being a carbon copy of ESB, by any reasonable standard it didn't take any risks of value.

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MichelBollinger
12/23/19 3:52:09 PM
#149:


Oh. Tim.

No one's ever really gone.
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RySenkari
12/23/19 4:04:45 PM
#150:


I loved Episode IX, but I totally understand why people hated it.

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