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I wish people would stop taking first proposals like this at face value. It's basic bargaining... start higher than you want so you settle closer to what you were originally hoping for.

Even the article says as much:

Presidential budgets are often declared dead-on-arrival in Congress where lawmakers have their own ideas about spending priorities. But the documents do represent the most detailed elaboration of an administration's priorities.

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scar the 1 posted...

This study quite clearly illuminates a structural bias:
- Men tend to be more available than women during odd hours. Why? Supposedly because women have to spend more time doing unpaid labor at home, such as chores, taking care of kids, etc.
- Men tend to prefer driving faster. This is a whole can of nature/nurture worms on its own.

So even when it looks equal on a surface level, because the algorithm doesn't discriminate by gender, these structures result in an unequal distribution. This is the part that one side cries itself hoarse over, and the other handwaves away as "personal choices".

It doesn't illuminate ANY bias by default. Like you said, whether it's "bias" or "choice" is a matter of perspective and debate, so to start with the claim that it is showing bias is to put the cart before the horse.

And they don't result in unequal distribution. They result in equal distribution for the labor performed. IF a woman worked the same hours during the same shifts, she would receive the same pay. It'd be like if I claimed a part time worker making less than a full time worker was "unequal distribution."
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The bigger concern is why is the medical industry so far behind the times? NOBODY should be using fax machines anymore outside of scanning something to email.
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What a shock, a "wage gap" study that finds that men earn more for the same job by working longer hours during harder periods with more experience is being used to argue for equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity.
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I have so many questions....
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

s0nicfan posted...

cjsdowg posted...

s0nicfan posted...

He shouldn't be. The man was one of the most "presidential" presidents we've had in decades, if not longer, and he will forever be remembered by a picture that looks like he was trolling when he had it made. Between that, the Obama/Biden memes, the fake album covers, etc... people are going to have a very warped view of what he was actually like 100 years from now.

But what can he do now. Say dude that sucks let's do it over ?

Yes?

Is there a precedent for that, though?

How would we know? If a past president didn't like the finished product, they could have commissioned someone else prior to a big press reveal. We only ever see the one picked, not necessarily the ones rejected.
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cjsdowg posted...

s0nicfan posted...

He shouldn't be. The man was one of the most "presidential" presidents we've had in decades, if not longer, and he will forever be remembered by a picture that looks like he was trolling when he had it made. Between that, the Obama/Biden memes, the fake album covers, etc... people are going to have a very warped view of what he was actually like 100 years from now.

But what can he do now. Say dude that sucks let's do it over ?

Yes?
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cjsdowg posted...

Obama was his nice self , however he didn't look happy with it.

He shouldn't be. The man was one of the most "presidential" presidents we've had in decades, if not longer, and he will forever be remembered by a picture that looks like he was trolling when he had it made. Between that, the Obama/Biden memes, the fake album covers, etc... people are going to have a very warped view of what he was actually like 100 years from now.
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Link HT posted...

I'm blown away by how much racial politics is being tagged on to this movie. We're SOOOOOOO far away from a day when a movie with a black cast can be released in theaters and nobody gives a shit, that's the day racism is over.

Is this a troll post? Or are you serious?
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He wrote a whole book on it....
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Kitt posted...

To be fair, Black Panther itself never claimed to be this big moment in history for film. It's outlets and media claiming it as such.

Oh sure, I don't think it's necessarily some sort of move by Disney, but it'll still hurt the movie in the long run.
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Makeveli_lives posted...

Why can't a black movie or tv show or album ever just be legitimately good? Why does it always have to be pandering?

There are lots of black movies that are legitimately good. None of them claim to be a "moment in history". People are only calling it pandering because its "blackness" is overshadowing the character and the plot.
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/entertainment-arts-42996895/black-panther-why-this-film-is-a-moment

EDIT: Also the fact that people keep calling this a first for black superheoes, as if blade, spawn, steel, Hancock, Meteor Man, and Catwoman didn't exist
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There's no way it's literal "100%" good, but I doubt it'll be a big letdown either.
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HiddenLurker posted...

Was the painter a Conservative?

The painter was a literal "diversity hire"
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iClockwork posted...

Michell Obamas is worse.

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Piersons_Fox posted...

This is what you get when you choose diversity over talent.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/16/arts/design/obamas-presidential-portraits.html?

I'm having trouble believing this is the very best African painter they could find.
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eston posted...

This mixtape gonna be fire

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Antifar posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Do we want to extend these federal protections to them as well?

We already do under the First amendment

I'm aware of that. My point is pushing for additional federal protections is simply a case of determining whether what's being asked is protections for all or protections for "my press" and not "the press"
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Antifar posted...

s0nicfan posted...

we as a society need to stop acting like their opinions on politics are any more valid/important than those of the guy who rotates your tires.

If you really wanted to enforce this, you'd have to clamp down on campaign finance rules, else celebrities are going to hold far more sway than mechanics anyways. (I'm speaking of the U.S., I'm unfamiliar with the UK or Sweden's restrictions.)

I'd LOVE to clamp down on campaign finance rules. In an ideal world, all candidates who pass some initial bar are given the same amount of money and forced to be smart about how they spend it.
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Darkman124 posted...

Whether the press deserve to be treated the same as cops/firefighters is a separate question, one I'd love to hear people's responses to--and it's the only actual subject for which debate can be held.

For things like this, I find that the important measure is whether or not people are willing to evenly apply the law to ALL reporters. Firefighters and police have jobs that benefit everyone regardless of politics so protecting them is an easy sell. The question is whether the people supporting this law are ALSO willing to see people go to jail for getting aggressive against InfoWars or Brietbart. I think by the very nature of the fact that far right/left publications can get press credentials means we should be more careful with giving them blanket protections.

To use an inflammatory example, we need to consider what this means if a literal nazi starts a newspaper and starts showing up to major events. Do we want to extend these federal protections to them as well? If the law can't be applied evenly to all participants, then it isn't a good law.
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Celebrities in general need to shut up about politics. Or, at the very least, we as a society need to stop acting like their opinions on politics are any more valid/important than those of the guy who rotates your tires.
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On average? Never. Games aren't books, and the people that want to make games aren't writers. It's the same reason why movies written by directors so often suck... just because you're good at one skill doesn't mean you automatically become good as a related skill in the same industry.

As long as game development draws talent from the pool of people that want to make games, the skillset will always be lacking in terms of writing when averaged across the industry.
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COVxy posted...

So someone who didn't realize that science literally didn't exist until like 1880, has a PhD in CS, presumably a faculty position, and major basic science funding?

I don't have a faculty position right now, I work in industry. I'm not going to go any farther than that because you don't want to listen. You want to find a "gotcha" so you can discount everything I've said, provide NOTHING to back up your own claims, shit out at "lol trump fans" comment and then go off feeling like you've accomplished something. The fact that you're trying to argue that science literally didn't exist prior to 1880 shows you'll say anything to make yourself look more right.

EDIT: And oh by the way who the fuck are you since we're being so critical of my background? If the basis of your argument is now completely abandoning providing any evidence of your baseless claims in favor of character assassination, then you better be on a goddamn golden pedestal.
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COVxy posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Computer Science.

So you have an active R01 or some NSF equivalent in basic science? Since you're on the up and up on funding, you must be well versed in grant writing.

Yes, but where are you going with this? You still have yet to provide an example to prove your point and are now attempting to dive into my CV to distract from the fact that you still have nothing other than "I know a guy" as your proof.

The reality is that a lot of funding has shifted to venture capital, many agencies of which are actually stood up by government in the first place. Government funding is too slow to match the pace of innovation and they've recognized that and pivoted towards more agile methods.

Listen, we both agree with science is critical for advancing society, and basic research is the foundation of that. I admit I'm wrong sometimes, but not on this. Why not just admit that you didn't know as much as you thought about the history of funding, acknowledge that maybe you overreacted to this because you saw "Trump" and wanted to act like the world was ending, and just leave it at that?
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GeneralZhao posted...

"Government funding of science has been on a decline for decades now therefore it should continue"

yikes

s0nicfan posted...

It means it's been working fine for 30+ years so if you're going to argue a continue decline is going to have some sort of tangible impact on the industry you're going to have to explain why it hasn't in that timeframe.

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COVxy posted...

s0nicfan posted...

I AM a researcher in the US

What's your PhD in?

Computer Science.
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COVxy posted...

s0nicfan posted...

You haven't proven that there's a drop in the first place. You're just talking out of your ass now with nothing to back it up.

I mean, talk to any researcher in the US. Almost every lab I know that was basic science has shifted to incorporate applied work in the hopes of actually obtaining funding.

The increase in available funding for applied research reflects a shift in cultural demand with the increased integration of industry with academia, likely.

I AM a researcher in the US. Are you officially shifting from actual evidence to "I know a guy" as your justification for this unreasonable panic?
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COVxy posted...

It was a recent article that came to mind. Similar data could be found in US.

If you don't find the precipitous drop in basic science concerning, you lack an understanding of how science develops.

You haven't proven that there's a drop in the first place. You're just talking out of your ass now with nothing to back it up.
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COVxy posted...

s0nicfan posted...

You going to provide some concrete examples, or are you going to continue to act like preaching the apocalypse at the altar of outrage is enough for people to assume you're right?

https://www.nature.com/news/survey-reveals-basic-research-in-canada-is-falling-by-the-wayside-1.22224

Canadian, but trends are similar if not worse in US. Number of PIs just solely doing basic science drops from ~25% to about ~1%.

So your answer to my point that it's been working for 30+ years is an article where, in another country, isolated to the past 10 years, industry has shifted to applied research as well as highlighting that while researchers have increased in number, funding levels have remained stagnant?

Not only does that article point out that funding has held steady in Canada, but that the number of researchers has INCREASED and the decrease relative to GDP is a byproduct of the economic growth. The survey dropping is a byproduct of more researchers in the industry, and they're going to where the new money is. At no point does it claim Canada has decreased funding for basic research.

EDIT: I mean come on COVxy, you make good arguments often enough, but that is a complete nothing.
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COVxy posted...

s0nicfan posted...

It means it's been working fine for 30+ years so if you're going to argue a continue decline is going to have some sort of tangible impact on the industry you're going to have to explain why it hasn't in that timeframe.

You'd need to be burying your head in the sand if you didn't think the funding environment has had a dramatic impact on the state of basic science over the past 25 years.

You going to provide some concrete examples, or are you going to continue to act like preaching the apocalypse at the altar of outrage is enough for people to assume you're right?
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Aren't they just canned versions of the flavored cokes you can get from their new restaurant machines?
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COVxy posted...

It being on the decline means...we can't be angry that the current administration is currently aggressively approaching policy to make it not only worse, but socially sanctioned?

It means it's been working fine for 30+ years so if you're going to argue a continue decline is going to have some sort of tangible impact on the industry you're going to have to explain why it hasn't in that timeframe.
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Government funding of science has been on a steady decline for decades now. People need to pull their heads out of their asses and stop hating something they know nothing about just because Trump took one side on the issue.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/03/data-check-us-government-share-basic-research-funding-falls-below-50
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COVxy posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Why is it awful? Elon Musk has singlehandedly shown that private industry can and will invest in space, and do so by making far faster innovations, far cheaper, than what NASA has been able to do.

Because the idea that science can be privatized shows a complete lack of understanding of science. Pretty much every step along the way this administration has tried to cut funding for science and handwaved it away with the idea of privatization and using Musk as their star conman.

You act like science didn't exist as a field prior to the modern age. How the fuck do you think we got out of the stone age? "Government funding?"
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Why is it awful? Elon Musk has singlehandedly shown that private industry can and will invest in space, and do so by making far faster innovations, far cheaper, than what NASA has been able to do.
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IIRC his kids were big fans of the show so he pursued the project to make it for them.

I guess he hates his kids.

EDIT: Here's from an interview
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/05/22/m-night-shyamalan-defends-his-avatar-the-last-airbender-adaptation

"I think the four things I've adapted are Stuart Little -- which I just wrote -- Avatar: The Last Airbender, After Earth, and now Wayward Pines. With both Stuart Little and Wayward Pines, I was just a part of the process. I think it was really wonderful and healthy; I approached it like -- I want to do right by the material, and I want to help people create the tone and that kind of thing. The other two were more taking it and trying to make it my own, which is really a different thing entirely. "

"It's really weird because on the show the average age was, like, nine-years-old," the director said. "My child was nine-years-old. So you could make it one of two ways. You could make it for that same audience, which is what I did -- for nine and 10-year-olds -- or you could do the Transformers version and have Megan Fox. I didn't do that. That would have felt like, 'Well, I'm going to make a movie about a kids show that my 10-year-old is watching and not make it for her. I make it for my guy friends.' That felt like a betrayal of the innocence of the piece. In retrospect, is it too young to go out -- it's like what your intention is versus what they want it to be. Clearly, 10-year-olds -- I go out and 10-year-olds are like, 'That's my favorite show! I love that movie!' Parents come up to me and go, 'They've watched The Last Airbender 74 times!' Those kids, it's for them. It was for them, to talk about mysticism and Eastern philosophies through a 10-year-old's vernacular. So, you know, these are business propositions, which have very little interest to me, of like, 'Hey, the business proposition is to get Megan Fox to be...' You know, 'You should age it 'til it's that.' That wasn't the source material, you know what I mean? Whereas, also, like a Transformers, it's really fascinating, because it's valid for Transformers. You know why it's valid? Because it's the little boys that were playing with them are grown up now. They're the ones who wanted to see Megan Fox. That's absolutely appropriate, you know what I mean?"

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refmon posted...

The games amazing but I'm kinda lost right now

Just beat hornet and have no idea where to go

Eventually the game will put icons on your map of the major places you need to go. If that hasn't happened yet, and when all else fails... down is usually the way to go.
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Why is Don now one of the chief aliens from Invader Zim?

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voldothegr8 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

stone posted...

By the way, does anyone have other suggestions for similar-ish games?

Hollow Knight and Rogue Legacy are amongst my favorite platform/action games on Steam.
I already have Ori on my wishlist, waiting for a decent sale to get it.

Momodora: Reverie which was suggested is good
Dead Cells is a metroidvania with a roguelike element to it
Valdis Story is probably the most pure "metroidvania" of the modern genre and has tons of replay value.
Dust: An Elysian Tail - a good game if you can stand furries
Axiom Verge - VERY "classic" Metroid feel
Rogue Legacy - another roguelike
Shantae and the Pirate's Curse - the other games are more traditional stage-based platformers, but this one in particular has backtracking
Guacamelee
Wonder Boy and the Dragon's Trap - a NES remake with "stages" but in one world
Cave Story
Owlboy
After Death

No Aquaria love?

I was just listing games that I have and have played on Steam. I haven't heard of that game, so I will have to check it out.
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KhlavicLanguage posted...

s0nicfan posted...

KhlavicLanguage posted...

and they aren't really the flavor of nerd that i happen to be, i think...i'm more into anime and competitive games, but board game geeks seem only tangentially related culturally

You need to get into the FGC, then, where its mostly adults with anime avatars playing the latest Capcom/ASW fighter as one locust horde that abandons the current game as soon as a new one comes out.

yeah i've been to some local meetups and had a fantastic time actually

also low-key felt really nice seeing the level of racial diversity. when i was really into dota it was all whites and asians.

The FGC is basically the poster child for real diversity in gaming because it's organic, nobody judges, nobody is allowed to get offended (because shit talking is part of the culture), and race basically isn't an issue at all.
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KhlavicLanguage posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Geek culture is pretending to be into nerdy things while taking potshots at actual nerds who unironically also enjoy those things.

i don't wanna call them "fake nerds" because that's so fucking stupid

but imo the people who are really into MCU, board games, and going to conventions are actually a different subculture than the people who are into e-sports and anime

ya dig?

Sure, I was just differentiating between actual "geeks" and people who consider themselves part of "geek culture", specifically professional youtubers like you mentioned in your first post. People who wouldn't like being called a geek, but want others to know they consume products geeks like.
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KhlavicLanguage posted...

and they aren't really the flavor of nerd that i happen to be, i think...i'm more into anime and competitive games, but board game geeks seem only tangentially related culturally

You need to get into the FGC, then, where its mostly adults with anime avatars playing the latest Capcom/ASW fighter as one locust horde that abandons the current game as soon as a new one comes out.
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Geek culture is pretending to be into nerdy things while taking potshots at actual nerds who unironically also enjoy those things.
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You're hitting that age where your peers are having kids or going to grad school part-time and losing any semblance of free time which is why they're not dicking around on a discord talking about a new anime.

There are other adults like you without kids, you just gotta find them.
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stone posted...

Valdis Story is one of the first games I got on Steam like 4 years ago. Haven't played it since. Maybe I should get around to replaying it someday.

Going back through as one of the other characters gives it a pretty drastically different feel because combat priorities are pretty different.
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stone posted...

By the way, does anyone have other suggestions for similar-ish games?

Hollow Knight and Rogue Legacy are amongst my favorite platform/action games on Steam.
I already have Ori on my wishlist, waiting for a decent sale to get it.

Momodora: Reverie which was suggested is good
Dead Cells is a metroidvania with a roguelike element to it
Valdis Story is probably the most pure "metroidvania" of the modern genre and has tons of replay value.
Dust: An Elysian Tail
Axiom Verge
Rogue Legacy
Shantae and the Pirate's Curse
Guacamelee
Wonder Boy and the Dragon's Trap
Cave Story
Owlboy
After Death
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If you crouch behind an obstacle, your wounds will seal themselves.
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SlashmanSG posted...

I just couldn't get into the game, though that may have been because I'd just finished Ori and that game is a masterpiece.

They're very different. Ori is a platformer first and an action game second. Hollow Knight is an action game first and a platformer second. If your favorite part of Ori was the movement, HK is going to seem underwhelming, but if you felt Ori wasn't a challenge when fighting enemies, HK would be your jam.
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