Lurker > s0nicfan

More like traditional Muslim attire is anti-safety.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

Horus_Leftfield posted...

Can we stop pretending defending the white majority against minorities and immigrants isn't a major platform of the Republican party and speakers like Ben Shapiro

Ben is anti Trump and anti Milo. Do you know anything about his opinions or do you just assume by default he's some kind of anti-immigrant bigot because he's on the right?
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

Glass_Phantom posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Have you seen how the left treats Islam?

I've seen how you condemn all Muslims on account of their religion. It's not surprising to see you in this thread taking up arms in favor of hate speech.

Ben Shapiro isn't hate speech but I'm not surprised you're blindly favoring censorship on the grounds that criticism is hate.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

thelovefist posted...

You've completely given up on people's ability to control themselves from becoming violent?

Have you seen how the left treats Islam?
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

Ben is anti-Trump and anti-Milo. I feel like if the general UC Berkley populace knew that they'd be far more welcoming. All this fear-mongering is based on a complete lack of information about the actual person. All they hear is "right-wing speaker" and are acting like Joseph Mengele in coming in to argue for eugenics.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

ThyCorndog posted...

I listened to some ben shapiro vids to give him a chance since a lot of conservatives say he makes good arguments but I didn't really hear any good arguments. he makes a lot of leaps in logic, assumptions and absolute conclusions when he doesn't have enough information to make claims that bold

Were these videos of him having to answer questions at Q&A sessions with college students? Because most of the time he doesn't have an opportunity to go into full detail when he's trying to provide a 2 minute answer to a very big question being asked.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

Is the counseling a 101 on how to not start a violent riot?
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

uwnim posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Leave the door shut. Drill through the floor/wall/ceiling.

What if it is the things contained within that are cursed/dangerous?

Send in a robot.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

darkphoenix181 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Leave the door shut. Drill through the floor/wall/ceiling.

? they can open it

it is that the government put a halt order on opening

I meant specifically in response to the "what if the door is cursed" part.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

Leave the door shut. Drill through the floor/wall/ceiling.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

JE19426 posted...

You need to work on your reading comprehension. I said they don't need to throw the UK under the bus, not that they won't or aren't.

So we're in agreement that the EU is making a show of screwing over the UK so others don't try to follow their footsteps. Good.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

JE19426 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

What's depressing is that the EU's goal of scaring away anyone else thinking of leaving by throwing the UK under the bus seems to be working.

The EU doesn't need throw the UK under the bus. The UK is jumping under it, all on their free will.

So when the EU says things like “Welcome to hell” at the negotiating table, as well as promising to “teach the British people and others what leaving the EU means”, or calling it an “an educational process” for the UK... when they say there are "extremely serious consequences" for leaving, none of that comes off as throwing the UK under the bus?

The EU has been pretty open about using the UK to scare off other countries from leaving. Junker himself said he'd make an example of the UK that no one would want to follow. You can make all the comments you want about Brexit, but you'd have to be either grossly uninformed or intentionally obtuse to ignore the open threats the EU has been making.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

ROBANN_88 posted...

JE19426 posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

is it possible for us to just tell the EU to fuck off?

Sweden can choose to leave the EU.

if this was a few years ago i might have said that we probably should, but after the absolute shitshow that is Brexit, it's clear that that would cause even more problems.

What's depressing is that the EU's goal of scaring away anyone else thinking of leaving by throwing the UK under the bus seems to be working.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

FLUFFYGERM posted...

it's a shame that the EU has become just a fascist authoritarian regime rather than a united front representing the civilized western world

It was only ever meant to be a trade union. I'm still not 100% sure how it went from that to asserting control over the continent.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

JE19426 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

They can't fish off their own coast because the EU designated it as a fishing zone for other countries.

That totally false. All EU countries have access to each others fishing grounds. They all have a limited specific amount they can fish but they are no limits on where they fish.

Brexit was the result of the EU attempting to assert full control over the UK's sovereignty by going even further and telling them who they can and can't let into the country.

How so?

To the first point, being told they can't fish in their own waters isn't entirely different from being told they can't catch as much fish as they want because other countries get a share too. My point was more their territorial waters had been divvied up, but I was incorrect on to what extent.

To the second point, while the refugee crisis wasn't the sole cause of brexit, it was part of it. There was a desire to limit the number of refugees coming into the country and the EU basically told them no in the same way that Sweden, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, etc are all being told the same thing.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

NinjaBreakfast posted...

I love all these Americans on CE who have hardly left their home state yet are somehow experts on the inner workings of numerous European countries.

---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

scar the 1 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Brexit was the result of the EU attempting to assert full control over the UK's sovereignty by going even further and telling them who they can and can't let into the country

lol

That probably is a silly sentence when divorced from the context of everything else I said.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

JE19426 posted...

snesmaster40 posted...

This is why Brexit happened.

How so?

Too much EU control being asserted over a nation's dominion. A full 30% of the UK's laws are EU laws. They can't fish off their own coast because the EU designated it as a fishing zone for other countries. Brexit was the result of the EU attempting to assert full control over the UK's sovereignty by going even further and telling them who they can and can't let into the country. All these things combined make people in the UK feel like their nation was being taken away from them, and that led to the rebellion that was Brexit.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz

The entire eastern bloc has border controls in place and none of them are planning on changing it. If the EU wants to make this the hill they die on, that's fine by me, but you're more likely to see a breakway union forming than you are all these nations suddenly falling in line.
---

"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz