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aquaria
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ModLogic posted...

aquaria

Hmm good point. I do own that game. Had it for a long time actually. I played it a bit when I first got it and then again a year or two later, but never got around to beating it. Not sure why I quit and didn't get back to it again.
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stone posted...

Valdis Story is one of the first games I got on Steam like 4 years ago. Haven't played it since. Maybe I should get around to replaying it someday.

Going back through as one of the other characters gives it a pretty drastically different feel because combat priorities are pretty different.
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s0nicfan posted...

stone posted...

By the way, does anyone have other suggestions for similar-ish games?

Hollow Knight and Rogue Legacy are amongst my favorite platform/action games on Steam.
I already have Ori on my wishlist, waiting for a decent sale to get it.

Momodora: Reverie which was suggested is good
Dead Cells is a metroidvania with a roguelike element to it
Valdis Story is probably the most pure "metroidvania" of the modern genre and has tons of replay value.
Dust: An Elysian Tail - a good game if you can stand furries
Axiom Verge - VERY "classic" Metroid feel
Rogue Legacy - another roguelike
Shantae and the Pirate's Curse - the other games are more traditional stage-based platformers, but this one in particular has backtracking
Guacamelee
Wonder Boy and the Dragon's Trap - a NES remake with "stages" but in one world
Cave Story
Owlboy
After Death

No Aquaria love?
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voldothegr8 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

stone posted...

By the way, does anyone have other suggestions for similar-ish games?

Hollow Knight and Rogue Legacy are amongst my favorite platform/action games on Steam.
I already have Ori on my wishlist, waiting for a decent sale to get it.

Momodora: Reverie which was suggested is good
Dead Cells is a metroidvania with a roguelike element to it
Valdis Story is probably the most pure "metroidvania" of the modern genre and has tons of replay value.
Dust: An Elysian Tail - a good game if you can stand furries
Axiom Verge - VERY "classic" Metroid feel
Rogue Legacy - another roguelike
Shantae and the Pirate's Curse - the other games are more traditional stage-based platformers, but this one in particular has backtracking
Guacamelee
Wonder Boy and the Dragon's Trap - a NES remake with "stages" but in one world
Cave Story
Owlboy
After Death

No Aquaria love?

I was just listing games that I have and have played on Steam. I haven't heard of that game, so I will have to check it out.
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s0nicfan posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

stone posted...

By the way, does anyone have other suggestions for similar-ish games?

Hollow Knight and Rogue Legacy are amongst my favorite platform/action games on Steam.
I already have Ori on my wishlist, waiting for a decent sale to get it.

Momodora: Reverie which was suggested is good
Dead Cells is a metroidvania with a roguelike element to it
Valdis Story is probably the most pure "metroidvania" of the modern genre and has tons of replay value.
Dust: An Elysian Tail - a good game if you can stand furries
Axiom Verge - VERY "classic" Metroid feel
Rogue Legacy - another roguelike
Shantae and the Pirate's Curse - the other games are more traditional stage-based platformers, but this one in particular has backtracking
Guacamelee
Wonder Boy and the Dragon's Trap - a NES remake with "stages" but in one world
Cave Story
Owlboy
After Death

No Aquaria love?

I was just listing games that I have and have played on Steam. I haven't heard of that game, so I will have to check it out.

Oh wow you're in for a treat.
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Good game recs above.
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Spoilers for late game Hollow Knight


Recent milestones
- Defeated Grimm. Damn that was a high intensity fight...and this dlc is still not over!?
- Defeated Dream Zote. lol what a funny guy...
- Found the White Lady. Got half of whats probably an important item.
- Got the last Dreamer (teacher). I love when NPC help you in fights.

Next goals I think
- Return the last(?) embers to Grimm.
- Find the final pale ore Im missing.
- Figure out how to enter the Tower of Love.
- Finish exploring Queens Garden
- turn in final Dream Nail upgrade

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The games amazing but I'm kinda lost right now

Just beat hornet and have no idea where to go
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refmon posted...

The games amazing but I'm kinda lost right now

Just beat hornet and have no idea where to go

Its non-linear, so you can go almost anywhere. Just keep exploring.
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refmon posted...

The games amazing but I'm kinda lost right now

Just beat hornet and have no idea where to go

Eventually the game will put icons on your map of the major places you need to go. If that hasn't happened yet, and when all else fails... down is usually the way to go.
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Wish they'd let you put custom markers on the map to make backtracking less of a pain in the ass.
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stone posted...

Wish they'd let you put custom markers on the map to make backtracking less of a pain in the ass.

too bad souls bad game design is carrying over and affecting other games
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stone posted...

Wish they'd let you put custom markers on the map to make backtracking less of a pain in the ass.

Agree with this. Also with they slightly changed the way the map is revealed when updating it at benches.
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I think I read somewhere they had planned on making custom pins a thing but just never implemented it
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They've been amazing at adding new content and have another DLC pack scheduled for early 2018, so I wouldn't be shocked to see it added still.
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Could still be added with the next revealed dlc
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The Admiral posted...

They've been amazing at adding new content and have another DLC pack scheduled for early 2018, so I wouldn't be shocked to see it added still.

Yeah, I saw the announcement for the next dlc, can't wait :)
Hope they make a prequel game following the original hollow knight, or maybe a game following Hornet
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i'll second Valdis Story, Guacamelee and Dust, those were all good. also check out Apotheon if you want a Greek mythology themed one that's fun but not amazing.

to make up for the lack of custom map pins i've just been keeping notes on things. i have a section for places where i need to jump higher, one for places where i need to break shaking ground, etc.

not sure i've ever played a metroidvania that allowed custom pins/markers now that i think about it. keeping notes is something i've done while playing these for a while. i grew up during NES days, taking notes is something i've just done during games with large worlds.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

Guacamelee

this is such a racist game
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ModLogic posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

Guacamelee

this is such a racist game

i think it's racist that you singled out the mexican one and ignored the greek one tbh
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i havent actually played the greek game
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

not sure i've ever played a metroidvania that allowed custom pins/markers now that i think about it. keeping notes is something i've done while playing these for a while. i grew up during NES days, taking notes is something i've just done during games with large worlds

Yeah good point. Heck, not that many games allow custom pins at all, let alone more than one at a time.
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I haven't done the crimson troupe dlc though i've started it but i've done a lot

https://puu.sh/zkYtN/dfc7000d59.png

ama and tag me if you might need help, though a lot of it is fuzzy. i'm waiting for the next dlc which is supposed to be soon, and i might play through it again.

edit: if you didn't know, you can "overcharm" by utilizing more more slot than you have

before: https://puu.sh/zkYAG/8ed6493ae0.png
after: https://puu.sh/zkYBI/bbfc6e4949.png

you take extra damage in this state however. risk vs reward.
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You take double damage over-charming. There really isn't a practical reason to ever be doing it, but, if you are going to do it, have the last charm be something that uses a lot of notches. Once you're over, you're over, so that last notch can be used for a 2-notch charm just as easily as a 5-notch one.

Also, with the new DLC, the highest completion percentage is 106%.
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@Ulyanyx or anyone

I was snooping a bit and saw theres a charm for Banishing the Troupe. Is it not possible to get both that charm and the maxed Grimmchild?
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CapnMuffin posted...

@Ulyanyx or anyone

I was snooping a bit and saw theres a charm for Banishing the Troupe. Is it not possible to get both that charm and the maxed Grimmchild?

Correct, you can only get one of the charms in a single playthrough.

IMO, neither of them are particularly useful in a late-game loadout, so don't fret about deciding based on that. However, I personally think the second boss that you fight when going the ritual route is the most interesting (and hardest) in the game, so I'd recommend at least giving that fight a try. If it's too hard/frustrating, the banishment option is always available. Each route gives you a separate achievement also.
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I'm glad I had two files at the end of the game so I could get all the new badges easily. One of those was my Steel Soul run, but it was easier the second time anyway.
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KainWind posted...

One of those was my Steel Soul run, but it was easier the second time anyway.

Still want to attempt that, but I'm going to save it as the very last achievement. Will probably do the speed runs ones first.
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i'm still really enjoying the game. haven't used a guide or anything yet. nothing has really given me trouble until i got to the Soul Master boss, who kicked my ass a number of times. took a break from him and went off exploring.
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oh n its pretty cool what happens after you beat the Mantis Lords.
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I'm going to try to start a speedrun this week -- specifically the 5 hour one. Need to plan out the perfect routes first, which will take some time.
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So I found The Path of Pain and promptly noped out of there. The normal platforming in that area was challenging enough.
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so my biggest (and only real) gripe with the game so far is there is a LOT of backtracking and going through areas I've already been due to lack of shortcuts and fast travel.

for example, i was exploring Deepnest and found the tram pass, so i decided to see where that took me. i went over to the area to use the item, explored the next two areas a bit until i got stuck and decided to head back to town. it took me a good 15 minutes to walk all the way back to the transportation, then starting from the bottom of Deepnest I had to work my way all the way up to the 'main' level, then over to the Mantis Lords, then up through that area and finally to the travel location.

if you could travel between benches it would be perfect.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

so my biggest (and only real) gripe with the game so far is there is a LOT of backtracking and going through areas I've already been due to lack of shortcuts and fast travel.

for example, i was exploring Deepnest and found the tram pass, so i decided to see where that took me. i went over to the area to use the item, explored the next two areas a bit until i got stuck and decided to head back to town. it took me a good 15 minutes to walk all the way back to the transportation, then starting from the bottom of Deepnest I had to work my way all the way up to the 'main' level, then over to the Mantis Lords, then up through that area and finally to the travel location.

if you could travel between benches it would be perfect.

There is an immediate fast travel item you get at some point, for which you can set your own waypoint.

Also, there's a Stag's Station in Deepnest, so you shouldn't have had to backtrack that long.
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The Admiral posted...

Also, there's a Stag's Station in Deepnest, so you shouldn't have had to backtrack that long.

do you mean the one on the far left side of the map, on the upper-right corner of the abandoned village? i did find that one, but for some reason i thought it was actually faster to just go up through the forgotten wastes. perhaps that was a mistake.
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Just finished my speedrun -- final time of just under 4 hours.

It wasn't really too hard other than the Watcher Knights, which I spent about 25 minutes of the run preparing for. The old achievement was under 3 hours, which would have been ridiculous.

All I have left is the Steel Soul runs, which I don't think should be too hard barring carelessness.
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Steel Soul isn't bad at all once you are familiar with the game. Steel Heart is annoying because of the colosseum, but it's doable.
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after having trouble with Soul Master initially i went back after getting a bit stronger (lvl 3 nail, charm to quick heal) and beat him on the first try. that charm to heal faster is so helpful for boss fights.
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The Admiral posted...

Just finished my speedrun -- final time of just under 4 hours.

It wasn't really too hard other than the Watcher Knights, which I spent about 25 minutes of the run preparing for. The old achievement was under 3 hours, which would have been ridiculous.

All I have left is the Steel Soul runs, which I don't think should be too hard barring carelessness.

i was looking over the achievement list last night and ... wow, those are not trivial to get at all. beat the game in < 4 hours, beat the game in < 20 hours w/100%, etc.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

The Admiral posted...

Just finished my speedrun -- final time of just under 4 hours.

It wasn't really too hard other than the Watcher Knights, which I spent about 25 minutes of the run preparing for. The old achievement was under 3 hours, which would have been ridiculous.

All I have left is the Steel Soul runs, which I don't think should be too hard barring carelessness.

i was looking over the achievement list last night and ... wow, those are not trivial to get at all. beat the game in < 4 hours, beat the game in < 20 hours w/100%, etc.

Once you know the game, the 20 hour at 100% achievement is not hard at all. You can play the game very leisurely and make that. Would have still been easy if it were 10 hours.

The 5 hour speedrun is only difficult because you're forced to be under-powered for some boss fights, which can really hold you up if you die a few times. This achievement used to be 3 hours, which was incredibly hard and left almost no room for error if you died.
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i think my in-game clock is at 15h and i haven't beaten any of those three masks yet. i have explored a butt-load and been to a bunch of places but i have no idea how far i am (%-wise). really trying to find as much stuff as i can w/o a guide tho
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playing HK blind is a magical experience, it just keeps expanding
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True. So many areas to explore, so many hidden things to find, and most of them are optional to beat the game, it just adds more to the atmosphere and the world. And the game is dirt cheap, for how much content it has!
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Has anyone tried Salt and Sanctuary? It's half off on Steam, it looks neat but I'm not too sure.
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stone posted...

Has anyone tried Salt and Sanctuary? It's half off on Steam, it looks neat but I'm not too sure.

It's fantastic.
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s0nicfan posted...

stone posted...

Has anyone tried Salt and Sanctuary? It's half off on Steam, it looks neat but I'm not too sure.

It's fantastic.

Yeah its good. Basically 2D Dark Souls with platforming elements.
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prettyprincess posted...

playing HK blind is a magical experience, it just keeps expanding

Definitely. The game isn't really cryptic at all, so someone can conceivably find almost everything just by normal exploration.
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stone posted...

Has anyone tried Salt and Sanctuary? It's half off on Steam, it looks neat but I'm not too sure.

i really enjoyed it. gave it a 4/5.

it's similar to HK in that it's a 2D action/platformer but with more RPG elements (you build a character) and less exploration / backtracking to find stuff.

STR builds dominate
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