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I kinda think the w100 really need that immune to friendly fire thing that Marisa has
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Also on the speed things

1. The stacking debuffs + buffs will probably put Dante as slower than the majority of the enemy team without timehax, which would frankly be acting as damage control at that point.
2. Donte's Devil Trigger while not having anti-gravity properties here does retain its time slowing abilities, so he can in fact keep up with this white haired wannabe.
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We said the Devil May Cry series, which to my knowledge does not have a "2"
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Team Chrom

I'd normally have Seph styling all over Raziel, but Raziel with +50% params can probably land some hits on Seph, which is not good because that Soul Reaver HURTS, even if you're Sephiroth. Not sure what he does during his first life, but I'm thinking taking out everyone that isn't Seph is more likely than not as non Sephs are one shot by the reaver I think.

And then taking out Seph with the second life is doable, especially since he probably has Chrom as backup the second time around, who if nothing else is a good distraction making it easier still for Raziel to get a hit in, and reasonably tanky + able to sustain himself. And I don't buy the enemy team having full knowledge of Raziel's parameter boost either cause that's kinda silly.
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I don't think Dante's go to is gonna be Vergil's sword anymore than I think it's gonna be range cheese. Dude used it fairly sparingly while he had it in DMC4, and I see no reason why he's treating this fight like a life or death situation to begin with. He's probably gonna be starting with his showy stuff, which means Rebellion for prop shredder jokes, or Nevan if he wants to make chopper jokes
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Hell yeah Hind-D hype

You're my hero Alany
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Imo Chrom would just kick Geralt's ass if he found him alone anyway. Aether !! is really good in a duel and he's got a strong set of sustain weapons there. Would really need to be Yuffie or Seph that found him, or for Geralt to have laid a trap (which is hard to do if Chrom isn't advancing) for it to be a clear loss for Chrom.
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Also any attempt for Dante to mega-style could get interrupted by Wrex's force push. I think the only way Dante has a chance here is if he's as played by my lame ass friend who never uses melee and just spams gunfire (guy was very good at that DMC game that doesn't exist). But in a pure range battle he loses to KOS-MOS anyway. As is I don't see why he doesn't just go down the tower right into the fray sooner rather than later. Dante literally has ran down that tower before, and he's not one to back down from a fight where he's outnumbered.
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Will Dante really fight the helicopter by Pandora spam

I think he more likely bounds off the side of the Temen-Ni-Gru to style into the chopper, using Nevan while making some manner of crack about a chopper, then vaults off of it, slides down to engage the enemy team.

UNFORTUNATELY for Dante this is a supernatural double parameters helicopter that can already take like 20 rockets with normal parameters for some reason, so he can't just wreck it effortlessly. It probably takes some damage and Dante goes spilling downward, needing to kickflip off the side of the tower to regain his balance, falling right into the thick of the enemy team

OR he catches eye of that poseur down there, and heads straight in to teach that foul mouthed pup a lesson in style and how to rep that trenchcoat.
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I think Chrom would be willing to abandon his partner if Raziel said this was a good plan. Especially for the first life. Chrom has gone along with plans like this hatched by The Avatar/Robin a few times.
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I don't think Dante has much time or even inclination to bust out Pandora from the beginning. If he ignores Dante, but you can call him Donte the demon killer, he's going to get grappled.

But he's gonna get grappled by his cutting wit first. One FUCK YOU! is all it's going to take for Dante to run down the tower and engage in melee.
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X_Dante_X posted...

i thought the hind d would be sweet for attacking a tower but dante has the kalina ann, that kinda gun like canonically fucks the hind d

Kalina Ann's rockets don't really home so it's not as good for this

Also this is a double parameters Hind D!
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Dante from DmC is strong

Dragging skyscraper Mundus around - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZYxfesVYBg#t=13m12s
Punching Mundus hard enough to send him reeling - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZYxfesVYBg#t=14m07s (followed by him propelling through Mundus's body fast enough to cut through the true version of Mundus inside, grab vergil, and fly out the other side, outpacing an explosion in the process)
Getting launched by Mundus and smashed into a skyscraper while remaining conscious (followed by him recovering pretty damn fast from nearly getting his heart ripped out)- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs9GNSKrQ7g#t=2m43s
Casually no selling assault rifles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TUB9GM45t0#t=3m40s

After that clip of being shot, same video, you have the stage which is fairly ridiculous in its own right-- I wouldn't necessarily take the time slowing moments seriously as I believe there's some explanation related to Mundus being pissed off creating hellrift nonsense setting off Dante's Devil Trigger (which does have a similar time slowing effect) to blame for those (despite their convenience), but take the other things seriously, like keeping up with a speeding car while using his grappling devil arm, or ripping a propeller off a helicopter, or tossing a bus to form a bridge.

I would put DmC Dante as likely having more raw power than Dante classic, while having enough durability, reaction times, and speed of his own to be able to keep up with Dante for some time, though the feats favor Dante classic in those regards.

Now this slight hype package isn't really to claim that DmC Dante is going to beat Dante outright-- just that he can probably hang with him to a reasonable extent, especially in the early parts of the fight where Dante is probably not taking the oppostion very seriously. I'd put him around the level of Nero, who holds his own with Dante reasonably well (). He has a similar fighting style to Nero with his grappling techniques and the same ridiculous strength feats Nero has, so yeah, very similar in my eyes. And Dante is almost certainly going after this poseur first, given he's ripped off his coat and has an attitude on him.

What then gives his team the advantage is:

Destructive power of KOS-MOS's guns, and Kirb-MOS's, which should be sufficient to keep even 'unnerfed' Dante down, as well as their Down Dex and Down Force ether abilities, which can debuff Dante's speed and attack. KOS in particular has the durability and self-repairing nanomachines to keep going for a long time, and Kirb-MOS's Thor persona gives him substantial physical resist, at least.
Bass's ability to buff all parameters of his party for the whole fight with Luster Candy (3x casts give his entire party +60% speed, attack, defense, and lasts infinite duration) as well as Bass's ability through his persona to single target fullheal while being super durable himself, and to do an inverse Luster Candy debuff on Dante with Debilitate, debuffing him even further.
Double parameters A HIND-D?! serving as a dangerous distraction for a while and probably goading Dante into a disadvantageous position
Yu's partywide full heals, which will need to be dealt with, but may not be done in a timely manner due to Dante having so many foes to deal with
Wrex's durability and crowd control with his biotics (a force push to disorient Dante, and a stasis to freeze him for a bit of a reprieve if he gets too crazy), as well as the huge damage output of his two shotguns-- the claymore in particular ignores over a large portion of Dante's defense due to its shredder rounds, as well as the stunning capabilities of the Striker assault rifle

tl;dr the Dante mirror, which likely takes place first, takes a while to resolve, and buffs + debuffs should bring Dante down to a reasonable level, allowing KOS-MOS and Kirb-MOS to deal the finishing blows on Dante with support from Yu and CC from Wrex
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Well if you choose Seeegggaaa, which implicitly is in the pool, you become Neptune which I believe is what was picked. Not that it matters-- the way the ability was copied all of the Neptunias are equivalent.
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Well just taking it in a mechanics sense

Yuffie is copying an ability that changes the name in the write-up, but not the combat write-up

So really, Yuffie should be Neptune, but have the same combat write-up Yuffie normally would-- basically you'd have Neptune as she appears in FFVII with some materia, KH moves, etc etc

As it is, Yuffie's name has to mean something for it to have any purpose at all, so I think it makes more sense to have Yuffie with the abilities of a Hyperdimension character, based on what this write-up is.

So as I said Yuffie tapping into her inner kawaii moeblob animu powers makes the most sense given how it's written. What exactly that means is ??? and frankly in this matchup probably kinda irrelevant as I see the Samus guns doing the heavy lifting anyway but you know.
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For the record I would have made Sell-out make it "Neptune is as she appears in FFVII, KH, etc etc" if I was resolving the ability, I think. Not that that's less confusing but I feel like that's a better analogue to what the ability is doing.
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Sure. I mean, I didn't always watch Talking Smack either cause it's still effort.

But I watched it more often when it was after SD than I ever watched 205 Live after SD, or Talking Smack after 205 Live. Like a good Smackdown would motivate me to watch Talking Smack cause I'd be hype from the show. It's a neutral to watching 205 Live as the shows are unrelated, and then with the one hour break I no longer care enough about Talking Smack to turn the Network on.
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Well Talking Smack is a natural transition from Smackdown, and not "a wrestling show" in the traditional sense.

Like I wouldn't ever wanna watch WWE Superstars immediately after Smackdown, but I'd be just as likely to watch say Total Divas as I would be at any given time.

Anyway this is just anecdote-- I just think there's a lot more potential benefit to having Talking Smack after SD than 205 Live, which is arguably hurt by it.
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I feel like you'd have a better case if Smackdown was actually on the network. There's effort put into watching it no matter what day it's on. It's not "just keep watching!' no matter what the day
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Yuffie form switched into a Neptunia character cause mercs

Now personally I'm taking a bit of a liberal approach with what that actually means, cause I'm not having Yuffie without a giant throwing star and I'm not letting you tell me otherwise
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I know I probably don't speak for the typical WWE Network viewer but I would probably watch 205 live a lot more if it was on Wednesday or Thursday. After a 2 hour wrestling show I don't really want to watch anymore wrestling-- that's the big reason I don't watch 205 Live much at all.

Course I won't have WWE Network in 2 weeks and am not paying for it now so what does my opinion matter.
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It's FF7 Yuffie in my mind

She's just tapped into her kawaii moeblob animu powers
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Yuffie as she appears in Hyperdimension Neptunia with a set of Samus's Weapons

GREAT NINJA.
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Yeah they should have used Talking Smack as the filler for the gaps in their feuds where they say their "THIS GUY SAID THIS ON TWITTER LOL" garbage
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GREAT NINJA Yuffie joins without a roster slot
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Turns out trying to literally murder Strowman is not good babyface behavior after all
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Punk returning to WWE would kinda kill any appeal his character had anyway I feel.

I would like to see Punk back in wrestling at some point, just not with WWE
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scarletspeed7 posted...

#123 - Shredder

Yay, Shredder was not eviscerated like the other TMNT vill--

scarletspeed7 posted...

So I have very little to say about the character. And because of that, I will take the advice of someone who posted in the last thread and not write him up.

Awww
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I'd take FFXII's soundtrack over FFT's on the whole, in spite of FFT having a fair deal more standout tracks. All of FFT's non super awesome music kinda blends together in my head.
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I think the only notable thing the NXT crowd has ever done that wasn't generic cheers or a negative thing was count off seconds in squash wins for Baron Corbin. That was really cool and actually got him over (well, more than he would've been anyway) rather than trying to get the audience over.

I think more people have become vocal about disliking them because the product isn't as good now so an obnoxious crowd can actually bring it down a lot easier. That and it becomes more clear that they're just doing it to do it because the show isn't as good. But it's probably a little bit of both that and them continuing to try and push the envelope.
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XII's soundtrack is really good in game. Tons of pleasant sounding diverse tracks that enhance the environments you're in. Not many standout tracks for out of context listening-- I can name less than 5 off the top of my head-- but it's probably one of my favorites while actually playing the game.
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There's a big difference between appreciating a crowd who is into what's going on on screen, and a crowd that is into showing they're into what's going on screen.

Whether NXT crowds jumped the shark or they were always like that and it just became more glaring as the overall quality and uniqueness of the product decreased, I don't think they were a big part of the draw at any point. They were just less annoying before.
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NXT got over in spite of its crowd not because of it
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In addition to things already mentioned, Vampires are way more fleshed out in terms of their strengths, powers, and weaknesses than Werewolves who are basically just dogmen with enhanced physical attributes who are weak to silver.

It's like comparing Superman to The Incredible Hulk.
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StifledSilence posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

trdl23 posted...

No Stop, Collaborate, Listen?

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Well doing a match trade in the first two rounds against an ability spam team with most of their abilities down was a bad move no matter what the learning curve of your team is, just by inspecting the recharges on the other team.
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Bonus 85
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Muhammad Hassan
Double Feature
James Storm
Breezango
Kurt Angle
Cesaro
Brock Lesnar
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Got

Vivi's Black Mage Staff OSB
Mustadio's Stoneshooter BSB
Seymour's Robes SSB

That's probably the first good draw I got since retiring from this game. Still not coming back just yet, but it's cool!
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Alucard

Don't see Vanille having the patience for good chess fundamentals
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Soul Ripped Lich King + Double Params Zero

Hm okay yeah actually that was prob a robbery. Oh well.
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If it makes you feel better Tom, I'm pretty sure you would have lost that anyway even with Zero
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Johnbobb posted...

It arbitrarily gets rid of the show's best characters

Seriously. Bugged me so much. By the end of that season the only living character I liked was Chanel No. 3
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Personally my take is this.

You see the sent in rosters
You resolve the post rosters effects
You fix the roster as needed, removing invalid roster choices.

Fairly certain M4 precedent was to this end too, in that you could declare a merc who was not on your team at roster time as part of your roster, running under the assumption that a possession effect was going to occur post rosters would take them to your side, with the possessed merc being considered an invalid roster choice with no replacement if the possession didn't resolve or hit who you expected for whatever reason.

I don't recall who asked this about what hypothetical merc situation would cause this, but I feel like it may even have come up.
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

No. Removals explicitly, well, remove a merc from their team

Well, I mean, you can't really argue that

Unless you're claiming a pre-battle possession of your merc from your own team would remove him from your team.
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I concur Drak. I think someone short circuited Kanzaris.
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KOS-MOS calculated a 99.998% chance Timeline 4 would not occur.
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