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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 9:34:05 PM
#147
It's not really that thorny.

You favor the original ruling, let Tiro redo his KO to kill the dude he specifically asked "will this guy screw me" about, given he has a way to stop said guy from screwing him on the board. Pretty cut and dry imo
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 9:28:59 PM
#144
Kain is hella overhyped and IMO Kuja is stronger than him overall

But he's more durable so he survives more than 3 seconds against UBW Archer
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 9:25:08 PM
#140
That being said I still don't know why Kuja was given more respect than Kain to begin with. Kain's way better against UBW Archer than Kuja is.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 9:22:34 PM
#138
I mean hell he even stripped away the Crono interception there before dropping KOs on your more important elements. This is not the look of an ability phase of someone who was not aware of what you had available. The only real question is whether he had the foresight to ask about Scion of Balance interactions-- he did, so there's not really all that much you can do if he plays with the proper information available to him.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 9:11:15 PM
#135
No, you were wrong. He did look into it and he got a bad ruling. With the right ruling it's clear he kills Kain over Kuja-- like if he's asking about it he knows that potential is there.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 9:07:52 PM
#132
I mean, that's a bad plan, you realize, right? Terry godkillers Kain, Kain's ability doesn't go off because it's SOB and he's dead.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 9:01:18 PM
#130
Kinda feel like Tiro gets screwed with any sort of "they cancel out" cop out ruling due to conflicting rulings because well, DC doesn't really have any counterplay to what's going down but what he's doing, and if that doesn't work, well, that's it for him. It's not like he could've played it differently and had an easier time-- his team just isn't really built to stop UBW (not many are).

That and, well, if Tiro was told that Kain's thing didn't work with UBW up, he has very very easy counterplay in that he simply just KOs Kain. You can't really assume he made a misplay if he was aware enough to ask the question. So I mean, the obvious solution is "favor the Lightning ruling, and let Tiro redo his ability phase since he clearly knew Scion was a thing and let him KO Dante + Kain instead"
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 5:21:54 PM
#92
He did not respect UBW to defeat everyone

Not enough faith in the bone of his sword.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 5:15:26 PM
#90
Anyway, I can only have so much sympathy for Tiro because I saw this threat coming a mile away and it was so easily countered by just killing Kain-- and why wouldn't you kill Kain he's way better than Kuja anyway!
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 5:10:20 PM
#89
Only ruling input I give that makes sense to the playerbase comes when I'm not actually an admin. Funny how that works, huh?
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 4:58:28 PM
#85
For the record the big reason I disagree with Scion altering rosterability status inherently is because it has Start of Battle timing, meaning it's not actually resolving before rosters are sent and thus can't actually alter rosterability status. That's kinda why the mechanics are weird on it.

Like say for example you used an ability nullifying Start of Battle used vs Kain. What happens then? Kain's in this weird state where if he's rostered, your roster works, and if he's not, your roster doesn't work, so it kinda needs to be in such a way where it's more like "here's a suggested number, and you send whatever roster you want, and if you don't obey the number you suffer consequences (if this ability goes off)"
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 4:49:28 PM
#83
But yeah if you gave DC bad precedent to begin with then I guess the ruling is straightforward-- I think Scion being ruled like that is dumb but what can you do.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 4:47:53 PM
#82
There are two ways I saw to interpret it, and strangely the points of contention for me aren't where you thought they were.

1. Archer wins because the way Kain enforces "balance" is by ejecting mercs that don't fit the stipulation set, because Kain isn't actually altering the game mechanics or whether specific rosters are legal or not

2. However, Kain was technically declared first, so if you resolve his Start of Battle with Pre-Battle timing, his non-targeted ejection technically happens before Archers

3. However, by the time Start of Battles resolve, Archer's UBW has already resolved, meaning resolving Kain's SoB roster ejection, which is non-targeted, modified to pre-battle timing, would have NORMALLY resolved before Archer's UBW, but because it starts as a Start of Battle and only changes timing if he's not rostered, it's too late at that point. Basically, Kain's Scion of Balance Start of Battle abilities exist in this point of limbo before Start of Battle but after Pre-Battle. (there's only a point of contention if Kain isn't rostered, otherwise, it just resolves as a Start of Battle and undoubtedly second, meaning Archer is protected)

In the end I come to the same conclusion you do (almost-- I'd have Kain successfully ejecting his own team since they aren't protected by UBW as he's not actually altering rosterability) but for different reasons.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 4:24:23 PM
#73
It definitely is interesting. I'll keep my thoughts on it to myself but I can see either way making sense.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 4:14:54 PM
#71
At least I think. I'm not actually sure how Alice's ability is supposed to work with regards to ability timing.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 4:12:53 PM
#70
Classic Tiro blunder as KOing Kain would've prevented Scion from going off due to his Passive being off while dead. Kain's a better target than Kuja too just on a combat approach but what can you do.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 2:02:12 PM
#67
Keep in mind if Dizzy as a PS uses her kidnap ability it'll KO or Kidnap her linked merc I believe
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 12:46:10 AM
#51
Done.

Roster: KOS-MOS, Wrex, The One True Dante, Bass.EXE, Liquid Snake, Yu Narukami, Kirby

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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 12:39:48 AM
#50
KOS-MOS correctly CALCULATES the mix is not disasteriffic
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/12/17 12:38:10 AM
#49
CATS attempts to take Dante's terrain and fails I guess. Or maybe he doesn't. He will not be shocked about what happened in any case.
Tira kidnaps CATS again, assuming the ruling that Tira doesn't KO an ally if she's KOed at the start of results is not overturned (and why would it be)
Bass brings Luster Candy, Link Ability, and Persona Norn
Kirby brings Parasol, Ninja, Wheel and Persona THOR
Yu brings Persona Isis
Rikku mixes Bass's Triforce of Courage onto Liquid's Master Miller, Liquid attempts to masquerade as enemy Dante's mentor and fails (roll CALCULATED disasteriffic chance)

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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/11/17 11:52:54 PM
#38
Everyone wants to fight Dante it seems.

Do not reduce roster size
Tira uses Discord Parade on Kirby
Kirby sucks up KOS-MOS, replacing the Tira ability slot he's bringing this week.

IN AD 2101 WAR WAS BEGINNING

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TopicHas anyone taken advantage of Amazon Prime Day?
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07/11/17 11:00:47 PM
#23
I got a dresser for 20% off. I guess that's a success.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/11/17 10:54:31 PM
#25
Choose not to reduce roster size.
Kirby brings Tira ability
Kirby goes Schizo

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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Doctor - Day 1
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07/11/17 10:47:52 PM
#68
Niles Crane
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TopicWant to buy a PS4. How good is the Prime Day Deal on it? (Pro Deals?)
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07/11/17 10:46:53 PM
#6
Well I kinda want one before Black Friday. FFXII is out and I wanna play it

But honestly the more I think about it the more I think that 60 FPS is must have and I'm gonna pass on this. I'll make do till Black Friday if necessary.
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TopicWant to buy a PS4. How good is the Prime Day Deal on it? (Pro Deals?)
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07/11/17 10:37:27 PM
#4
500 GB vs 1 TB is fairly minor. Mostly want the Pro for the FPS. Kingdom Hearts on 60 FPS looks awesome.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Wartime: Falling Into Infinity
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07/11/17 10:29:24 PM
#22
Tira goes Schizo
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 413: Brock's Got Big Balls! Joe's Got Big Balls!
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07/11/17 6:13:30 PM
#313
My favorite part is:

Panthera posted...
the main reason being that for some reason the US title belt had the straps torn off so it was just the front plate and Ambrose wanted the IC title because it had strap


This is a Lopenbooking approved basis for a feud right here.
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TopicHas anyone taken advantage of Amazon Prime Day?
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07/11/17 6:11:39 PM
#19
I guess I'll ask here too.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/

How good is this deal ($229 for a PS Slim + Uncharted 4) and am I likely to find any reasonable deal on a PS4 Pro anytime soon (before Black Friday)

Cause I'd really like a PS4 Pro over a Slim but paying nearly double for one is a high premium.
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TopicWant to buy a PS4. How good is the Prime Day Deal on it? (Pro Deals?)
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07/11/17 5:46:00 PM
#1
So there's this.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/

Which seems like a pretty good deal, especially since Uncharted 4 is a game I wouldn't mind having.

I kinda wanted a Pro since it's prettier and can run games at higher FPS, but I don't know if I want one to the tune of $170 more. Are there any deals on a Playstation 4 Pro on any websites whatsoever?

I feel like this is too good to pass up if I want a PS4 anytime soon unless A. This deal isn't that great and the $70 discount is kinda bogus. or B. It's feasible to get a Pro for less than $399 without waiting forever.

Anyone who has paid better attention to the price trends of the PS4 have any input here?
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TopicHas anyone taken advantage of Amazon Prime Day?
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07/11/17 5:20:45 PM
#16
The only deal I've considered all day was a small $35 work desk that was like... $5 off the normal price. I didn't bother because the discount was so paltry and it was much smaller than the kinda desk I actually wanted.

Total bust this year imo. May not even get Prime membership next year around this time.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Doctor - NOMINATIONS
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07/11/17 2:44:34 PM
#284
Psh. Booker was the king of the Smackdown Kingdom. He won his position through combat.

Lawler was always a bit more shaky cause it's unclear what he actually ruled, but I can only assume wrestling divine right gave him lordship over something.
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TopicHas anyone taken advantage of Amazon Prime Day?
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07/11/17 12:53:12 PM
#6
I've been following it. Deals seem a lot worse than last year in terms of things I actually want. Mostly been looking at furniture. Last year I got an entertainment center and a table/chair set for pretty good prices. This year I'm looking for some shelves, a desk-- but all the furniture is chairs and beds which I don't need.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 413: Brock's Got Big Balls! Joe's Got Big Balls!
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07/11/17 11:15:35 AM
#300
GFW's fault for thinking Del Rio is a draw to begin with. Should've had Lashley win.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Peacetime: The Final Experiment
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07/11/17 12:15:26 AM
#25
BTW Kirby is at 7. But he's at 8 now.
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TopicFate/Grand Order Topic 2: All Must Kneel to the King of Heroes!
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07/10/17 11:58:01 PM
#147
Well I'm amassing a stock of the materials. Just choosing not to use them all.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Peacetime: The Final Experiment
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07/10/17 11:55:10 PM
#23
Kirby's eyes are bright with determination.

Yu doesn't know why exactly Kirby cares so much about beating this white haired demon so much? This is clearly some ancient rivalry. Something somehow even worse than something like Dante having stolen his pizza, and honestly, he's not even sure Kirby himself knows why he must win, But he does know Kirby seems to care deeply about this match, and that's good enough for him. Yu sticks his fist out to Kirby.

"Let's get him."

Kirby nods and fist bumps Yu. American Kirby gameface is on.

It's showtime.

Yu S.Links with Kirby
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TopicFate/Grand Order Topic 2: All Must Kneel to the King of Heroes!
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07/10/17 11:43:31 PM
#145
This is why I'm intentionally reining in the leveling until I actually need it.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Peacetime: The Final Experiment
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07/10/17 11:31:24 PM
#21
Wrex: Booker.

Wrex gives Booker a sermon on Krogan vigor.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Peacetime: The Final Experiment
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07/10/17 11:13:59 PM
#20
KOS-MOS CALCULATES the risk of Mix being Disasteriffic if used vs The Dante Sparda!?!
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 110: Cleveland Steamer
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07/10/17 10:39:24 PM
#437
Knowing the past helps very little cause you need to go out of your way to get the information on the current candidates to even know how that past knowledge is relevant, which tends to come packaged with people explaining "oh such and such didn't work in the 90s"

I'm probably a better informed voter than your average voter, but that's just because I read a lot of sources. Taking college classes on politics or history has nothing to do with it. I know plenty of "college educated" people who don't fact check. Hell, in some cases the knowledge can backfire, as a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing. Someone who knows a little and thinks they know a lot is much worse than someone who knows nothing and acknowledges that fact.
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TopicMercenaries Draft Week 10 Peacetime: The Final Experiment
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07/10/17 10:29:44 PM
#11
@KanzarisKelshen if I use CALCULATIONS they won't go on CD right.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 110: Cleveland Steamer
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07/10/17 10:23:21 PM
#421
As someone who took several political science classes in college I'm kinda curious what I was supposed to have learned in there that makes me "more qualified to vote." I have a much better idea of how the government works than a random farmer dude, probably. I have an idea of what past presidents did in their terms. I don't think knowledge of checks and balances helps me lay down an educated vote.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 110: Cleveland Steamer
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07/10/17 10:01:20 PM
#411
I don't really think taking a class on history or politics makes you have a better idea of who to vote for at all. I feel like following current events and reading up on candidates and such trumps any class you can take on that end to such a degree that the classes are fairly irrelevant. I'll trust random farmer dude's vote over college guy if random farmer dude actually researches the candidates pretty easily.
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TopicFate/Grand Order Topic 2: All Must Kneel to the King of Heroes!
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07/10/17 8:30:24 PM
#132
I like the story supports because just rolling enemies is kinda boring, which would happen if I used a friend unit.

Also more friend points
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TopicMagic the Gathering Topic: Go Big or Go Home
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07/10/17 7:56:51 PM
#162
I mean yeah but they've always done that?

I'm just kinda confused why they weren't always expensive.
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TopicFinal Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age review zone
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07/10/17 6:41:54 PM
#42
Yeah I looked up the difference for interest's sake but didn't actually let it influence me at all

P sure I went

Vaan - Spear
Penelo - Pole
Fran - Daggers
Basch - Axe
Ashe - Katana
Balthier - Gun

Not positive on Fran. Might've just left her on bow.
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Topic~FIGHT!~ Neclord vs. Cadence
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07/10/17 6:18:50 PM
#23
Faith's schtick is disarming people I think she'd have the sword sooner rather than later.
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