Board 8 > What four games are on the "Video Games That Didn't Hold Up" Rushmore?

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ZenOfThunder
05/19/24 5:04:07 PM
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Which of these modern revivals of a classic video game commercial would you most like to see? - Results (50 votes)
Next Smash game's entire roster as mascots fighting; set to "Happy Together"
34% (17 votes)
17
SEGA runs brand new "Genesis Does What Nintendon't" ads for the Dreamcast Mini; attacks Nintendo anti-consumer practices
14% (7 votes)
7
Switch 2 commercial is two Japanese businessmen going door to door saying "Switch to the Switch 2;" the people slam the door in their faces
6% (3 votes)
3
Breath of the Wild 3 commercial, live action versions of the characters do a funny dance number
4% (2 votes)
2
Segata Sanshiro is back and he's pissed
12% (6 votes)
6
Gears of War Mad World commercial but it's the banana man from Fortnite instead of Marcus Fenix
2% (1 vote)
1
All 1000+ Pokemon are crushed inside of a bus (this is basically the Pokemon of the Year topic seres)
2% (1 vote)
1
PS3 baby is back and he's pissed
12% (6 votes)
6
Fire Emblem "poisoned his mutton" commercial but they are all hot anime babes (READ ToS BEFORE VOTING FOR THIS)
6% (3 votes)
3
Hikaru Utada is back and she's pissed
8% (4 votes)
4
This poll is now closed.
Discussion Topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80708068 (if you want to complain about this topic series do it here and not in the current topic)

Rules: If you list more than 4 things I'm gonna just tally the first 4 you say. If you list the same character multiple times it won't count. Be nice. Don't shove your personal definition of "Mount Rushmore" down others' throats. Have fun. If you're going to majorly change a vote please quote your old vote to make it easier for me.

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Games-that-didn't-hold-up-specific-rules: Needs to be an officially released game that was, at the time, a critical (and possibly commercial) success. Needs to have been revisited with a more critical eye since release and now either be considered mediocre, overrated or not well aged.

This should be common opinions, not just your own. If anyone comes out here swinging for something like OoT, SM64 or FFVII then feel free to lampoon them.

This one got a lot of noms so I am doing it but this is gonna end up being a VERY subjective Rushmore to some extent, I think. I asked ChatGPT for some examples and even it had some extremely spicy takes so I am expecting that no matter what this topic will get messy. I am anticipating a lot of arguing but overall everyone has been on their best behavior lately so let's see how this goes

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Reference Links:
I googled this and really just found a bunch of heavily opinionated takes with wildly different answers, so I won't bother linking anything this time. If you want some ideas I'd recommend just googling "overrated video games" and scrolling until you find some takes you agree with

PREVIOUS RESULTS:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uCR-viOTP-yKhRZnTyvaoXj7teKRA12gz7m-1rfmhoY/ (Sheet 1)
Racing Games: Gran Turismo, MK8D, MK64, F-Zero GX
Family Guy Episodes: Blue Harvest, Road to Rhode Island, PTV, Stewie Kills Lois
Metroidvanias: SotN, Super Metroid, Hollow Knight, Metrid Prime
Webcomics: Penny Arcade, xkcd, Homestuck, 8-bit Theater
VG commercials: Smash 64 Happy Together, Genesis Does What Nintendon't, Wii Would Like to Play, LttP Dance

YESTERDAY: Ton of fun and very nostalgic! Mildly competitive. We actually didn't have a ton of votes but the votes we did have were all great. A little competitive for 4th but mainly because I voted Segata Sanshiro at the last minute out of respect.

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UPCOMING RUSHMORES (nominations welcome):
5/20/24: Roguelike Games
5/21/24: Bad Songs
5/22/24: Celebrity Chefs
5/23/24: Disney Movies (Canon)
5/24/24: Video Games (4-day long special)
5/25/24: ZEN'S BIRTHDAY BREAK
5/26/24: ZEN'S BIRTHDAY BREAK
5/27/24: ZEN'S BIRTHDAY BREAK (Zen's Actual Birthday)
5/28/24: Sonic the Hedgehog Games (Zen's Birthday Present)
5/29/24: Fictional Evil Companies
5/30/24: Looney Tunes
5/31/24: Video Game Controller
6/1/24: ZEN IS GOING TO BALTIMORE
6/2/24: ZEN IS GOING TO BALTIMORE
6/3/24: Fictional Detectives
6/4/24: Ubisoft Games
6/5/24: Nick Jr. Shows
6/6/24: Board 8 Projects
6/7/24: Futurama Episodes
6/8/24: ZEN IS GOING TO SONIC SYMPHONY
6/9/24: Characters with Horns (nice)
6/10/24: Mega Man Robot Masters
6/11/24: Horror Movie Villains
6/12/24: Shonen Jump Protagonists (lmao)
6/13/24: Fictional Robots
6/14/24: Games with Female Protagonists
6/15/24: LGBT Video Game Characters
6/16/24: Fictional LGBT Couples
6/17/24: LGBT Movie Characters
6/18/24: Something for Juneteenth (WIP)
6/19/24: Crowdfunded Games
6/20/24: Stupid Video Game Names
6/21/24: Smash Bros Reveal Trailers
6/22/24: Strong Bad Emails
6/23/24: Fictional Toms
6/24/24: Fictional Ashleys
6/25/24: Fictional Sams
6/26/24: Fictional Elizabeths
6/27/24: Fictional Michaels
6/28/24: Fictional Ashleys
6/29/24: Fictional Jacks
6/30/24: 3D Platformers
7/1/24: Silent Protagonists
7/2/24: Indie Games
7/3/24: Moments in American History
7/4/24: Mount Rushmore 3 (4th of July Special)
7/5/24: Failed Presidential Candidates
7/6/24: WRPGs
WHILE YOU ARE VISITING BOARD 8, MAKE SURE TO PARTICIPATE IN POKEMON OF THE YEAR VOTING:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests?search=Pokemon%20of%20the%20Year

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RikkuAlmighty
05/19/24 5:07:06 PM
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Chrono Cross

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Mega_Mana
05/19/24 5:08:20 PM
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Fable
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

Might think of more later?

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ZenOfThunder
05/19/24 5:09:06 PM
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Mega_Mana posted...
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

the critics hated TP on release! an 8.8 from GameSpot! a trash score!

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ZenOfThunder
05/19/24 5:10:12 PM
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going to get an early vote in for BioShock Infinite because people turned on that shit HARD just a year or two later

I consider it the poster child for this Rushmore tbqh

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LightningStrikes
05/19/24 5:10:26 PM
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Was looking forward to this one!

Bioshock Infinite - The defining example surely?

Goldeneye 007 - I actually played through this this year and enjoyed it but this gets brought up a lot as an example.

Player Unknowns Battlegrounds (PUBG) - This won some game of the year awards, got a TGA nomination and months later its a joke.

Final Fantasy XV - Look, it sounds hard to believe now but there was a period here where a lot of people including on this board were adamant this was the best thing since sliced bread. Needless to say no longer the case! A bit softer on this one, could change later.

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Xeybozn
05/19/24 5:13:15 PM
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Goldeneye

Probably some other things too, need to think more.

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HaRRicH
05/19/24 5:13:18 PM
#8:


Metroid
Sonic 1
Crash Bandicoot
Super Mario Sunshine

I'll probably change these but I'm starting here.

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Leonhart4
05/19/24 5:14:19 PM
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GoldenEye 007
BioShock Infinite
Chrono Cross (infamously got a perfect score from GameSpot)
Street Fighter II

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LightningStrikes
05/19/24 5:15:12 PM
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LightningStrikes posted...
Was looking forward to this one!

Bioshock Infinite - The defining example surely?

Goldeneye 007 - I actually played through this this year and enjoyed it but this gets brought up a lot as an example.

Player Unknowns Battlegrounds (PUBG) - This won some game of the year awards, got a TGA nomination and months later its a joke.

Final Fantasy XV - Look, it sounds hard to believe now but there was a period here where a lot of people including on this board were adamant this was the best thing since sliced bread. Needless to say no longer the case! A bit softer on this one, could change later.

Actually yeah change FFXV to Chrono Cross. That Gamespot 10 has a lot to answer for!

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Xeybozn
05/19/24 5:16:39 PM
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Xeybozn posted...
Goldeneye

Probably some other things too, need to think more.

Add: Pokemon RBY

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ZenOfThunder
05/19/24 5:17:34 PM
#12:


Fallout 3 will be my second vote

I have gone back and played the shit out of 1, 2, NV and even 4, but every time I go back to 3 I end up quitting an hour or two in. IMO not a bad game but aged the worst in the whole franchise

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ctesjbuvf
05/19/24 5:18:45 PM
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Chrono Cross
Dragon Age: Inquisition
BioShock Infininite
Super Mario 64

Last one is controversial perhaps but it gets brought up often enough. Sunshine was very criticized at launch, it doesn't fit.

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Snake5555555555
05/19/24 5:20:10 PM
#14:


Well at least ChatGPT knows what's up with Halo 3 Believe

BioShock Infinite (I DON'T agree at all though, I think it's even more incredible now actually)
Assassin's Creed
Overwatch
Resident Evil 5 (another I don't agree with, and honestly don't even know if it fully fits here, but this is a hard one)


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ZenOfThunder
05/19/24 5:20:38 PM
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Man, when I googled "overrated games" the first thing I saw was Mario 64 and I was like "no one is gonna vote for that"

didn't take long!

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Dancedreamer
05/19/24 5:22:01 PM
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Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Resident Evil
Goldeneye 007

Not sure about the fourth...

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Leonhart4
05/19/24 5:22:08 PM
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I've heard the "FFVII has aged poorly" take for 20 years because of the Lego Popeye models as if people weren't making fun of them in 1997

I think FFVII and OoT are legit votes because those people do exist, even if they're a vocal minority

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Lopen
05/19/24 5:22:56 PM
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Goldeneye 007
Metroid
Bioshock Infinite
Final Fantasy IX

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Lopen
05/19/24 5:23:15 PM
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Snake5555555555 posted...
Halo 3 Believe

I'm so disappointed in myself forgetting it

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HaRRicH
05/19/24 5:23:27 PM
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SMS was criticized a lot at launch but I got 120 shines back then and now barely want to replay it. Might replace it with Brawl or Goldeneye but I wanna see where else the discussion goes.

I'm not sure I knew about Bioshock Infinite getting turned on. What was that about?

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05/19/24 5:29:15 PM
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LightningStrikes posted...
Player Unknowns Battlegrounds (PUBG) - This won some game of the year awards, got a TGA nomination and months later its a joke.
What? It launched the genre that became the most popular in the world. Sure it lost its crown as the #1 choice within that genre after a year, but it's still hugely popular (has been one of the three most-played games on Steam every day for six years running).


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tazzyboyishere
05/19/24 5:29:53 PM
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This one seems difficult to assess from an "objective" lens so I'll just use my personal top 4 that come to mind.

GoldenEye 007
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
Armored Core
Phantasy Star II

Games I played later on in their lifespan and had a bad time most notably because they felt too old. Sticking to games I probably would've liked if I played them when they were fresh.

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LightningStrikes
05/19/24 5:33:44 PM
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Ngamer posted...
What? It launched the genre that became the most popular in the world. Sure it lost its crown as the #1 choice within that genre after a year, but it's still hugely popular (has been one of the three most-played games on Steam every day for six years running).

There was literally a major campaign called fix PUBG launched months after it went 1.0, yeah its popular but not well regarded.

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bryans7
05/19/24 5:34:55 PM
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GoldenEye
Mario 64
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Tomb Raider

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Ngamer
05/19/24 5:36:20 PM
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I'd say

Super Smash Bros.
Donkey Kong 64
Mario Party 1
Chrono Cross

The Nintendo entries were all great ideas but poorly executed, and immediately improved on.


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Ngamer
05/19/24 5:39:11 PM
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LightningStrikes posted...
There was literally a major campaign called fix PUBG launched months after it went 1.0, yeah its popular but not well regarded.
Yes because it was buggy and almost unplayable at launch unless you had a high end machine. But the campaign worked and they got it running well even on lower-end machines, and as a result it maintained its player base for six+ years.


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Paratroopa1
05/19/24 5:40:20 PM
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So many of the answers other people have given are games that I either think DO still hold up or that I don't think were EVER good lol

except for this one:

Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
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XIII_Rocks
05/19/24 5:42:22 PM
#28:


Snake5555555555 posted...
Well at least ChatGPT knows what's up with Halo 3 Believe

I'd have 100% voted for this if I saw the topic. It's my favourite one. Got a soft spot for Gears of War mad world too. Others I'm out of the loop on really

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LiquidOshawott
05/19/24 5:43:44 PM
#30:


Wii Sports
Goldeneye 007
Morrowind
The Sims (1st one)

there have some

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AbsolutelyNoOne
05/19/24 5:46:43 PM
#31:


BioShock Infinite
Metroid 1
Chrono Cross
Mortal Kombat (1992)

People have elaborated on BI and CC already. Metroid 1 is a game I hear get called from the stone age by Metroid fans all the time, and I can't think of another game quite like it where literally no one will tell you to play the original over its remake. Back in the FG topic I mentioned not wanting MK1 on the rushmore in spite of its absurd importance because the game itself has aged terribly. That thing is hard to go back to.

Other games I want to mention: Super Mario Kart, Brawl, GoldenEye, Sonic Adventure (even though I personally still like it), probably some Final Fantasy games, Overwatch

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squexa
05/19/24 5:47:43 PM
#32:


Bioshock Infinite
Resident Evil 5
Goldeneye 007
TLOZ: Skyward Sword

I'm guessing the lack of votes for SS is because gamers turned on it so fast that we don't even consider it to be held in high regard to begin with?

And RE5 is the most striking example to me. In about 15 years IGN went giving RE5 a 9.3 to publishing this:
https://www.ign.com/articles/the-resident-evil-game-that-cant-be-remade

If Capcom were to make a faithful remake of RE5, it would be a complete shitshow in the review threads.

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ZenOfThunder
05/19/24 5:50:05 PM
#33:


everyone hated SS even before it came out, its fate was set in stone

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Paratroopa1
05/19/24 5:51:31 PM
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AbsolutelyNoOne posted...
literally no one will tell you to play the original over its remake.
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Underleveled
05/19/24 5:58:33 PM
#35:


Goldeneye 007
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (note I don't agree with this one but I recognize that enough people think so for it to be Rushmore worthy)
Zelda 1
I guess people are saying Chrono Cross so I'll go with that

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DomaDragoon
05/19/24 5:59:09 PM
#36:


  • Altered Beast
  • Mortal Kombat 1992
  • Chrono Cross
  • Goldeneye 007

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ZenOfThunder
05/19/24 6:01:37 PM
#37:


not sure if I wanna vote Brawl or Smash 4 here

Smash 4 made me retroactively love Brawl in a weird way

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Hbthebattle
05/19/24 6:11:22 PM
#38:


Metroid
The Legend of Zelda
Goldeneye 007
Mortal Kombat 1992

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MacArrowny
05/19/24 6:33:11 PM
#39:


Goldeneye
Fallout 3
Metroid

Chrono Cross doesn't fit this at all, IMO! Fans absolutely hated it at launch, and it took years for its reputation to improve.

squexa posted...
I'm guessing the lack of votes for SS is because gamers turned on it so fast that we don't even consider it to be held in high regard to begin with?
SS performed poorly even in its GotY poll on GameFAQs. Its reputation has probably gotten a bit worse over time, but not that much.

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squexa
05/19/24 6:47:51 PM
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MacArrowny posted...
SS performed poorly even in its GotY poll on GameFAQs. Its reputation has probably gotten a bit worse over time, but not that much.

The game still got 93 on Metacritic, so it fit the "critical success" at launch criteria that's listed and the Switch rerelease that fixed a lot of issues still dropped to 80 so there was a clear critical re-evaluation. Compare that with other games like Xenoblade that launched with 92 and its rerelease only fell to 89.

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Xtlm
05/19/24 6:51:58 PM
#41:


Why did people go from liking to hating Bioshock I?

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WhiteLens
05/19/24 6:57:15 PM
#42:


GoldenEye 007
Mortal Kombat (1992)
Fatal Fury
Street Fighter

I'm gonna guess that Street Fighter 1 was a novel game in 1987 that people realized was complete ass 4 years later.

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EatMan
05/19/24 6:58:47 PM
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There is no timeline where Mario 64 doesn't hold up

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redrocket
05/19/24 6:59:48 PM
#44:


Ok, Im gonna say it

Metal Gear Solid 4

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tazzyboyishere
05/19/24 7:13:15 PM
#45:


I don't think the BioShock Infinite hate happened to the degree people sometimes say. It's still quite well regarded, just not to the pedigree of the original.

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LiquidOshawott
05/19/24 7:16:29 PM
#46:


I dont even get Bioshock Infinite as a choice. Is it just a deeper thought of the plot? Game is still playable

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Paratroopa1
05/19/24 7:18:58 PM
#47:


WhiteLens posted...


I'm gonna guess that Street Fighter 1 was a novel game in 1987 that people realized was complete ass 4 years later.
I was actually just talking to someone yesterday who said he played it contemporarily and didn't like it, and then SFII came out and blew him away
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jcgamer107
05/19/24 7:19:20 PM
#48:


I don't like this one. I knew GoldenEye would (unfairly) get lots of votes. Seeing Mario 64 & Pokmon RBY is even worse.

EatMan posted...
There is no timeline where Mario 64 doesn't hold up
thank you I feel slightly better now

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swordz9
05/19/24 7:21:28 PM
#49:


Super Mario 64
Goldeneye 007
Final Fantasy IV
The Legend of Zelda
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LiquidOshawott
05/19/24 7:22:27 PM
#50:


jcgamer107 posted...
I don't like this one. I knew GoldenEye would (unfairly) get lots of votes. Seeing Mario 64 is even worse.

thank you I feel slightly better now

Honestly we probably could fill out this Rushmore with a ton of games from the PS1/N64 era. Just because of the polygons and control schemes that things such as dual analog made obsolete

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