Current Events > Japan's PM Kishida to US Congress: You don't have to do it alone.

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itcheyness
04/11/24 6:32:09 PM
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https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/Indo-Pacific/Japan-s-Kishida-says-U.S.-not-alone-in-upholding-world-order

"I detect an undercurrent of self-doubt among some Americans about what your role in the world should be," the 66-year-old leader said in a speech to a joint session of Congress, which he delivered in English.

"This self-doubt is arising at a time when our world is at history's turning point. The post-Cold War era is already behind us, and we are now at an inflection point that will define the next stage of human history," he said.

The international order that the U.S. worked for generations to build is facing new challenges from those with values and principles very different from the U.S. and Japan, he said, pointing to China, Russia and North Korea.

"I want to address those Americans who feel the loneliness and exhaustion of being the country that has upheld the international order almost single-handedly. I understand it is a heavy burden to carry such hopes on your shoulders," he said.

"The U.S. should not be expected to do it all, unaided and on your own," he said.

"As the United States' closest friend, tomodachi, the people of Japan are with you, side by side, to assure the survival of liberty," the prime minister added.

"On the spaceship called 'Freedom and Democracy,' Japan is proud to be your shipmate. We are on deck, we are on task. And we are ready to do what is necessary," he said to big applause.

"You are not alone. We are with you."

What a lovely speech.

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Garioshi
04/11/24 6:33:27 PM
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itcheyness posted...
"I want to address those Americans who feel the loneliness and exhaustion of being the country that has upheld the international order almost single-handedly. I understand it is a heavy burden to carry such hopes on your shoulders," he said.
Not a single American is lonely and exhausted because of these things

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Bandit_Keith
04/11/24 6:44:10 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Not a single American is lonely and exhausted because of these things
Wrong. Speak for yourself only.

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Hospy
04/11/24 6:44:14 PM
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Pretty good speech
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ItsNotA2Mer
04/11/24 6:46:28 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Not a single American is lonely and exhausted because of these things

STFU.

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CyborgSage00x0
04/11/24 7:09:17 PM
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Damn. That's a nice speech.

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Zikten
04/11/24 7:11:03 PM
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At least we know if ww3 breaks out, Japan has our back
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Bugmeat
04/11/24 7:11:32 PM
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I will admit that I got a little misty eyed reading it. Very touching sentiment.


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Gwynevere
04/11/24 7:23:43 PM
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Maybe there's an undercurrent of self doubt in Americans because we routinely watch cops beat people to death, there's new shootings all the time, and our last presidential election was topped off by an attempted coup

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Robot2600
04/11/24 7:28:42 PM
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it's mutual.

if there's one thing americans love, it's Japan.

i mean really, we really do fucking love Japan even when they are weird.

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Horith
04/11/24 7:29:40 PM
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It's a lot of pretty words, but what's the actions Japan can even take in this instance? As far as military defense, their constitution literally prohibits them from even having a military or using war as a means to solve international disputes, and while they do have the Japanese Self-Defense Force it's not exactly controversy-free. And considering it was Shinzo Abe who wanted to amend Article 9 to legitimize JSDF's existence, that's not exactly an endorsement you want to have.

Economically Japan is currently ranked 4th, having fallen just behind Germany last year, and to say that Germany is an exceedingly distant 3rd is an understatement. China's economy is nearly 4 times that of Japan's, and the US' is nearly 8 times larger. And while Europe is at least somewhat backed by being somewhat unified under the EU, Japan doesn't have nearly that kind of political leverage.

Like, I love the sentiment. It's fantastic to try and reassure the US that we don't have to follow the foreign policy we had in the 70's and 80's where we were one of two dominant superpowers, and someone had to take on the role defending against the USSR's aggressive expansion of their 'dictatorship under the cloak of communism.' But man, just from a sheer military and economic standpoint, it's hard to justify feeling like anyone else could even contribute meaningfully.
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OwlRammer
04/11/24 7:31:44 PM
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"Since childhood, I have felt a connection to the United States, perhaps because I spent my first three years of elementary school at PS 20 and PS 13 in Queens, New York," he said.
"We arrived in the fall of 1963, and for several years my family lived like Americans. My father would take the subway to Manhattan where he worked as a trade official. We rooted for the Mets and the Yankees, and ate hot dogs at Coney Island," he said.
"After 60 years, I have a message for the good people of Queens. Thank you for making my family and me feel so welcome. I have never forgotten it," he said.
how cute

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
04/11/24 7:46:20 PM
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US Japan
The friendship that we need.

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Voidgolem
04/11/24 7:47:05 PM
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that's going to greatly upset the fuckin' weird demographic that all inexplicably live in ohio and kansas for some reason

Good speech though

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CADE_FOSTER
04/11/24 7:50:54 PM
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...
Damn. That's a nice speech.

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uwnim
04/11/24 8:04:07 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Not a single American is lonely and exhausted because of these things
The American people as a whole are exhausted. It is why you see so many people wanting the US to stop being so involved in the world militarily.

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tremain07
04/11/24 8:08:30 PM
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The world is watching and is scared to death that the US is gonna bring back the willfully ignorant bully that thinks the entire worled owes him money, Trump's behavior on the world stage was a fucking embrassment punching and threatening our allies while cozing up to our enemies. Dude knows Trump's owned by China too and if they give him some money he'll gladly look the other way if they wanna start some shit in Japan.

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St0rmFury
04/11/24 8:30:39 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Not a single American is lonely and exhausted because of these things
Lol

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thronedfire2
04/11/24 8:34:53 PM
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the rest of the world doesn't want to watch the train wreck that ruins the global supply chain

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Gritty
04/11/24 8:45:25 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Not a single American is lonely and exhausted because of these things
Empirically untrue
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CADE_FOSTER
04/11/24 8:49:34 PM
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Trump was a traitorous cancer and the fact that we could have him again is why the country really needs to be fixed
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GrandConjuraton
04/11/24 8:56:17 PM
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Hospy posted...
Pretty good speech


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El_Marsh
04/11/24 9:02:26 PM
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Don't turn your back is all I can say.

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TraurigAberWahr
04/11/24 9:10:15 PM
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He mustve watched these videos beforehand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE
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Fenriswolf
04/11/24 10:26:42 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
it's mutual.

if there's one thing americans love, it's Japan.

i mean really, we really do fucking love Japan even when they are weird.

Unless they threaten your economic dominance, like what happened in the 1980s, of course.

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legendary_zell
04/11/24 10:39:08 PM
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By the global order, he means neoliberal capitalism and economic domination
By freedom, he means neoliberal capitalism
At least when it comes to China and either Korea, almost all of the negative vibes historically have come from Japan.


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itcheyness
04/12/24 8:40:19 AM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
Trump was a traitorous cancer and the fact that we could have him again is why the country really needs to be fixed
True

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DragonClaw01
04/12/24 8:43:58 AM
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Gritty posted...
Empirically untrue
Empirically true. Our whole foreign policy has been based off keeping most of the world weak militarily and monopolizing power. It is a symbiotic relationship: the countries protected can focus more on domestic issues and America can pump its military (the biggest employer in the US and the biggest part of our discretionary budget). Plus America can't stand being told what to do on just about anything, so under this system they can boss everyone around without fear of being bossed around themselves. It is pretty much new world order, but America is the order. Things like the expansion of China and the war in Ukraine have put stress on the system a bit, but it still is very much in play and I can't see it going away any time soon

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Kaldrenthebold
04/12/24 8:46:37 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Not a single American is lonely and exhausted because of these things

Here's another dunk for the pile: lol stupid ass post

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Choco
04/12/24 9:46:42 AM
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i'm surprised ce is reacting positively to this speech

what happened to hating america

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mustachedmystic
04/15/24 7:43:21 AM
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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pacifist-japan-unveils-unprecedented-320-bln-military-build-up-2022-12-16/

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Daremo
04/15/24 7:49:16 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Not a single American is lonely and exhausted because of these things
Speak for yourself. The world's policeman's lot is not a happy one.

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WingsOfGood
04/15/24 7:58:58 AM
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Tomogachi?
So he is a digital pet?
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soulunison2
04/15/24 8:09:30 AM
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Bandit_Keith posted...
Wrong. Speak for yourself only.
damn bro you're still a trump shill after all these years ive been gone lmao

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Chicken
04/15/24 8:12:31 AM
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Gritty posted...
Empirically untrue
Do americans really believe the hero complex propaganda that their government spoon feeds them? America isnt the worlds peacekeepers, americas meddling in every country ever is the reason we dont have world peace.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
04/15/24 8:19:01 AM
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itcheyness posted...
"On the spaceship called 'Freedom and Democracy,' Japan is proud to be your shipmate.


He was probably watching Gundam before writing that speech


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soulunison2
04/15/24 8:20:48 AM
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Chicken posted...
Do americans really believe the hero complex propaganda that their government spoon feeds them? America isnt the worlds peacekeepers, americas meddling in every country ever is the reason we dont have world peace.

Some americans do like the brainwashed shills you see in this topic
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RedGenki
04/15/24 8:22:40 AM
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So when will Japan be giving the US giant Mech Suits?
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MangaBroski
04/15/24 8:29:02 AM
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On the spaceship called 'Freedom and Democracy,' Japan is proud to be your shipmate. We are on deck, we are on task. And we are ready to do what is necessary
Is this the guy who was also saying Japan would defend Taiwan? If it is, that guy just wants Japan to be allowed into military combat.

Less pessimistically, if Japan is a strong ally to the USA, they probably find themselves in a position of wanting to be even more secure, as Russia becomes more aggressive.
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XxZiomaxX
04/15/24 9:49:12 AM
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Chicken posted...
Do americans really believe the hero complex propaganda that their government spoon feeds them? America isnt the worlds peacekeepers, americas meddling in every country ever is the reason we dont have world peace.
Okay bud

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Xenogears15
04/15/24 9:57:35 AM
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Literally:

https://youtu.be/F7NOovxx3lg?si=ow7RfLCdRB_T5l5-

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cjsdowg
04/15/24 10:11:54 AM
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He wants to get taste of that American Imperialism. It figures before WW2 they were with the west in stabilizing the rest of Asia. Then in WW2 their were horrible in China.

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Daremo
04/15/24 11:33:00 AM
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Chicken posted...
Do americans really believe the hero complex propaganda that their government spoon feeds them? America isnt the worlds peacekeepers, americas meddling in every country ever is the reason we dont have world peace.
Have you seen the police? These are not mutually exclusive propositions.

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mustachedmystic
04/15/24 12:22:03 PM
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Sure, America is the sole reason we dont have world peace. I wonder what the Ukrainians would think of that.

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Uta
04/15/24 12:35:55 PM
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MangaBroski posted...
Is this the guy who was also saying Japan would defend Taiwan? If it is, that guy just wants Japan to be allowed into military combat.
He's LDP, and like most members of LDP he's in the ultra-nationalist Nippon Kaigi. So yeah, this speech is almost certainly him trying to drum up support to get Japan's warfighting sanctions lifted. Convert the SDF into a full standing military, pretend you're doing it for world peace, but really all they want is to start shooting at China and Korea again.

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Chicken
04/15/24 10:53:31 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Sure, America is the sole reason we dont have world peace. I wonder what the Ukrainians would think of that.
Russia is a bear. The US has been poking said bear since its inception.

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OmegaShinkai
04/15/24 10:58:12 PM
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Chicken posted...
Russia is a bear. The US has been poking said bear since its inception.
quintessential Russian victim complex bullshit
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