Current Events > Beto O'Rourke endorses "Uncommitted" in Michigan's Democratic primary.

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What proof, ButteryMales?

I'm tempted to start marking you and letting the mods weigh in on whether that's my account or not.

Doesn't matter since I literally did not tell anyone how to vote in this topic. I didn't even claim Beto was right. All I did was defend Bernie. Biden supporters then proceeded to spam lies at me and ignore any proof I posted to the contrary.

No neutral observer doesn't see how BS that is.

...Why would they? Nothing I've posted is against the TOS.

People are on edge for good reason. The knee jerk reaction to any criticism of Biden at this stage, is expecting the person condones or tolerates Trump in some way.

Posting false information as fact is trolling, while persistently referring to users with false labels is flaming/harassment. And from experience I know you don't actually need to be aware that what you're posting isn't true, just being adamantly wrong and refusing to acknowkedge contradictory proof while continuing on is enough to be considered in violation.

Granted, the TOS may be more lax now. But similar behavior has been modded before.

But people being willing to drop morals for the sake of their political agendas is how we got Trump to begin with. There should at least be common decency on a personal level.

I've never claimed that Trump wasn't the worst modern president and a far inferior option to Biden. All I've said is that to some people neither meets their standards. Yet just for that rabid partisans associated me with an actual "both sides" guy who claims there's no difference between Trump and Biden as president. At that point they're transparently just shilling for their candidate and don't care how much they have to lie about anyone not 100% in line. Which is counterproductive since it wins no allies.

My allies are the *genuine* far left.

My allies are the *genuine* far left. Not the milquetoast types the American media calls the "left".

I find no redeeming value to any right-wing platform or policy.

You admit you're an alt, yet refuse to say who. That, in itself, could be considered trolling. Do you really wanna go down that route? When you admit you're an alt, you're inviting people to guess who.

I don't see the relevance when the other accounts will never be used again. When I switch it's permanent.

Why would literally anybody believe that when your "current" account is a 14 year old alt with barely two years of karma? That raises questions, no?

It's not like my earlier accounts would be recognized.

He posts the data of accounts made a decade apart with a nearly 1000 karma difference as if that somehow helps his case.

An easily debunked one, about as unprovoked as the guy trying to shit on Bernie earlier.

You and Sheen's account were made two years apart and you're both obnoxiously pro-Biden, got anything to tell us? No, you actually don't, it's just a coincidence since this line of logic is moronic.

But people being willing to drop morals for the sake of their political agendas is how we got Trump to begin with.

Can you be more specific?

Edit: I went back and you haven't even engaged with the topic on Beto and voting Uncommitted.

This isn't relevant to a Dem primary, though. That's the point. Beto agrees Trump would be worse and that Biden would be endorsed if he's the nominee, but until then, it seems fair to pressure him internally.

Im sure when Trump is elected he will stop supporting Israel

No it wasnt.

Im not pro-Biden.

And if your other accounts don't have a more consistent karma ratio... Why not? Why do all of your accounts apparently have incredibly low karma for otherwise old accounts?

Poll after poll shows a significant part of the Dem voter base disapprove of Biden's handling of Israel/Gaza, especially younger and non-white voters.

But CE is convinced they're all undercover Trumpers.

Whitmer also doesnt know what a primary is? Concerning. Its one thing for CEmen not to know.

Yes, she's the one who doesn't understand things...

So just to confirm, you think that if someone votes Uncommitted in this primary, that affects the November vote count. Youre wrong. This is really easy to look up.

In any case, it seems most likely Whitmer doesnt agree with the cause of the protest vote, which is why shes saying she is not sure what to expect. Like, she knows this primary does not affect the November election even if you dont.

As I said 100 posts ago, why would someone refuse to vote for Biden in April but vote for him in November.

Problem is bitching about how people vote in a primary also poisons the well. This whole discourse would reinforce someone's decision not to vote in the general a whole lot more than people voting Uncommitted in a primary would. Lashing out at light political opponents is not helpful.

The same reason anyone votes for one guy in the primary but a different guy in the general.

"I wanted someone else to be the nominee, but this guy is the best nominee actually available."

I think poisoning the well is a dumb idea.

Protest votes accomplish nothing and you risk radicalizing people to flat out not vote in the general election.

As I said 100 posts ago, why would someone refuse to vote for Biden in April but vote for him in November.

But if your goal is to push republican propaganda, nobody is stopping you.

But if your goal is to push republican propaganda, nobody is stopping you.

Lets be clear about one more thing, the best Republican propaganda ITT, besides the people actually saying not to vote in November, is supposed liberals making posts like this:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b4aaa1a9.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/905f908e.jpg

Why would "Trump is worse" make people vote for Trump?

Why would "Trump is worse" make people vote for Trump?

the most important message democrats can get out between now and the election is dont commit to Biden. Stay home. Consider alternatives. But do not commit to Biden.

After McCain lost the GOP abandoned morals and after Romney lost the GOP abandoned decorum.

If they had stuck to decency and high standards their candidate quality would not have dropped so far.

Why would "Trump is worse" make people vote for Trump?

the most important message democrats can get out between now and the election is dont commit to Biden. Stay home. Consider alternatives. But do not commit to Biden.

Its Biden or nothing you get Trump if you dont want Biden so suck it up princesses