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Zero_Destroyer 02/24/24 5:41:01 PM #1: |
https://michiganadvance.com/2024/02/24/beto-orourke-supports-uncommitted-campaign-in-michigans-tuesday-presidential-primary/
Former U.S. Rep. Beto ORourke (D-Texas) expressed support Friday for a campaign asking Democratic voters unhappy with President Joe Bidens handling of the Israel-Hamas war to vote uncommitted in Michigans Democratic presidential primary on Tuesday. ORourke said he read an opinion piece by Dearborn Mayor Abdullah Hammoud endorsing the campaign that was published in the New York Times this week, which he said was well-written and well-argued. The campaign has also been endorsed by U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Detroit) and former U.S. Rep. Andy Levin (D-Bloomfield Twp.). Not a huge flip considering Beto hasn't done anything of note since 2018 but it does demonstrate some of the moderate bench backing pressure on Biden over the Gaza situation. Considering the large Islamic bloc in Michigan I am interested to see how things shake out. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 02/24/24 5:42:21 PM #2: |
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Cheater87 02/24/24 5:43:20 PM #5: |
This war is going to sadly bite Biden in the ass it seems.
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Irony 02/24/24 5:43:20 PM #4: |
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Zero_Destroyer 02/24/24 5:44:14 PM #6: |
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This isn't relevant to a Dem primary, though. That's the point. Beto agrees Trump would be worse and that Biden would be endorsed if he's the nominee, but until then, it seems fair to pressure him internally. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 02/24/24 5:47:38 PM #7: |
Beta O'Rourke embarrassing himself? Must be a day that ends in -y. Zero_Destroyer posted... Not a huge flip considering Beto hasn't done anything of note since 2018 but it does demonstrate some of the moderate bench backing pressure on Biden over the Gaza situation. Considering the large Islamic bloc in Michigan I am interested to see how things shake out. Beta told Texans he would forcibly take their guns away. Not a voluntary buy-back, literally "I will take your guns". In Texas. lol @ calling him a "moderate" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zero_Destroyer 02/24/24 5:52:49 PM #8: |
streamofthesky posted...
Beta O'Rourke embarrassing himself? Must be a day that ends in -y. He was a standard suit fossil fuel dem for his career, I think his turn on guns was really the only broadly leftist position he took and it was in a primary. He's nowhere near as far to the left as, say, Tlaib. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zero_Destroyer 02/24/24 6:17:15 PM #9: |
Cheater87 posted...
This war is going to sadly bite Biden in the ass it seems.If the pressure is protracted and Biden calls for a ceasefire i don't think it'll harm his bottom line in November. As it stands I think the white house is rolling with the idea it won't hit them, but we'll see Tuesday. If the uncommitted ballot doesn't make an impact we'll know the direction they go in imo --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 02/24/24 6:33:18 PM #11: |
There is no form of Gaza protest some CEmen will find acceptable, they even get mad about symbolic voting in the primary
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1337toothbrush 02/24/24 6:36:43 PM #12: |
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SecretBase 02/24/24 6:43:40 PM #13: |
Well Biden didn't give Beto a job after the 2020 endorsement. >_>
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MarcyWarcy 02/24/24 6:51:38 PM #14: |
this administration could not have possibly fumbled their response to the war harder. i dont think its going to end up being biden's version of covid annihilating trump, but it's definitely several more nails in the coffin
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HorsemnBusiness 02/24/24 6:52:40 PM #15: |
Dammit I like him, but he really needs to shut the fuck up
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Ulfar 02/24/24 6:52:48 PM #16: |
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Ooooooranges 02/24/24 6:53:18 PM #17: |
This is good. Dems need to pressure Biden internally to stop supporting a genocide. Seems reasonable to me. If that's not reasonable to you, then you've got a very right wing approach to foreign policy.
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ablegator 02/24/24 6:59:02 PM #18: |
This better not be forgotten in November. Withholding your vote for Biden in a primary wont send the message. Doing it I November will.
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ssb_yunglink2 02/24/24 7:06:47 PM #19: |
ablegator posted...
This better not be forgotten in November. Withholding your vote for Biden in a primary wont send the message. Doing it I November will.Withholding a vote for Biden in the general sends the message that you want Trump. --- Hee Ho ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ablegator 02/24/24 7:09:34 PM #20: |
ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Withholding a vote for Biden in the general sends the message that you want Trump.No, it sends the message that Democrats need to run a real progressive. --- Why be stupid? Does it make you happy to be stupid? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wanderingshade 02/24/24 7:11:25 PM #21: |
The thing is I don't exactly trust Democrats to not stay in their feelings and stay home in the general. And I really think a bunch of them will.
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ssb_yunglink2 02/24/24 7:12:26 PM #22: |
ablegator posted...
No, it sends the message that Democrats need to run a real progressive.Ah yes, i cant wait for the progressive policies that 4 years of Trump will lead to. --- Hee Ho ... Copied to Clipboard!
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aarrgus 02/24/24 7:13:53 PM #23: |
ablegator posted...
No, it sends the message that Democrats need to run unpopular losers I fixed it for you. --- Last night I was lying in bed, staring at the stars, and I wondered... Where the **** is my roof? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 02/24/24 7:17:33 PM #24: |
Is the ask solely that the US stop giving weapons to Israel?
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ssk9716757 02/24/24 7:20:50 PM #25: |
ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Ah yes, i cant wait for the progressive policies that 4 years of Trump will lead to. Sounds like Biden better change course if he doesn't want Trump beating him then --- "GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site." -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssk9716757 02/24/24 7:22:02 PM #26: |
aarrgus posted...
I fixed it for you. Biden is unpopular --- "GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site." -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningThief 02/24/24 7:22:32 PM #27: |
Long as he's making it clear he's doing this for the primary and NOT the general election. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Flaming_Fire619 02/24/24 7:23:57 PM #28: |
ssk9716757 posted...
Sounds like Biden better change course if he doesn't want Trump beating him then If people are going to throw out every progressive thing Biden's done and pushed for for one subject, something that literally no other electable candidate would campaign on, and will not change and explicitly get worse under Trump, I don't really know what to say. Cutting the nose off to spite the face does not work especially when we've seen how many rights and protections were destroyed in just 4 years under Trump. --- Not changing until Shelton Benjamin wins the WHC Started: Jan. 10. 2009 http://myanimelist.net/profile/fantheflames ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssk9716757 02/24/24 7:29:08 PM #30: |
Flaming_Fire619 posted...
If people are going to throw out every progressive thing Biden's done and pushed for for one subject, something that literally no other electable candidate would campaign on, and will not change and explicitly get worse under Trump, I don't really know what to say. The thing is, Arab and Muslim Americans are used to shit being bad for us regardless of who the President is. I mean we lived through post-9/11 hysteria. We can take it. It's all the white liberals who are freaking out and chastising us for using the one bit of leverage we have to try and sway Biden. Obviously Trump winning would be bad, but Biden isn't going to do anything different unless he's forced to. --- "GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site." -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 02/24/24 7:34:05 PM #31: |
ablegator posted...
No, it sends the message that Democrats need to run a real progressive.Biden is absolutely a progressive President and has accomplished more in 4 years than Bernie could have ever dreamed of. --- lolAmerica ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningThief 02/24/24 7:36:38 PM #32: |
ssk9716757 posted... The thing is, Arab and Muslim Americans are used to shit being bad for us regardless of who the President is. I mean we lived through post-9/11 hysteria. We can take it. It's all the white liberals who are freaking out and chastising us for using the one bit of leverage we have to try and sway Biden. Obviously Trump winning would be bad, but Biden isn't going to do anything different unless he's forced to.This is not even close to being true. Anyone claiming the treatment is the same is either ignorant or speaking in bad faith. My post is entirely separate to the main topic on the primary election btw. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 02/24/24 7:38:21 PM #33: |
ssk9716757 posted...
The thing is, Arab and Muslim Americans are used to shit being bad for us regardless of who the President is. I mean we lived through post-9/11 hysteria. We can take it. It's all the white liberals who are freaking out and chastising us for using the one bit of leverage we have to try and sway Biden. Obviously Trump winning would be bad, but Biden isn't going to do anything different unless he's forced to.It's all fun and games until Trump enacts another Muslim ban, but this time it entails rounding up Muslims and putting them on a one way trip anywhere but here. --- lolAmerica ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssk9716757 02/24/24 7:46:26 PM #34: |
ClayGuida posted...
It's all fun and games until Trump enacts another Muslim ban, but this time it entails rounding up Muslims and putting them on a one way trip anywhere but here. Try not to sound so excited about it --- "GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site." -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 02/24/24 7:47:19 PM #35: |
emblem-man posted...
Is the ask solely that the US stop giving weapons to Israel?I ask because, if Biden says that we'll stop giving aid and weapons to Israel, and Israel continued one its current path, I just have doubts that people will suddenly be fine with Biden --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mistymermaid 02/24/24 7:49:24 PM #37: |
Irony posted...
Who Uncommitted is rumored to be the superstar wrestler Vacant. --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 02/24/24 7:49:40 PM #38: |
emblem-man posted...
I am because, if Biden says that we'll stop giving aid and weapons to Israel, and Israel continued one its current path, I just have doubts that people will suddenly be fine with BidenDo you think people dont actually care about the US role in the Gaza situation though? --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McMarbles 02/24/24 7:50:50 PM #39: |
ablegator posted...
This better not be forgotten in November. Withholding your vote for Biden in a primary wont send the message. Doing it I November will.Yeah, the message I dont actually give a shit about anything but moral masturbation. --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy VI Pixel Remaster (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 02/24/24 7:59:19 PM #40: |
Doe posted...
Do you think people dont actually care about the US role in the Gaza situation though? I'm sure people do. I just think that the loudest voices would actually want the US to become active against Israel, rather than becoming passive (stopping aid and weapons) --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningThief 02/24/24 8:06:38 PM #41: |
ssk9716757 posted... Sounds like Biden better change course if he doesn't want Trump beating him thenSounds like Trumpgressives trying to elect their dear leader by spreading to repeat 2016. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 02/24/24 8:13:45 PM #42: |
1337toothbrush posted...
Only took two posts to get "BUTWHATABOUT TRUMP?!?!?!?" That's kind of how reality works for people who are facing real consequences and who don't have the luxury of being moral grand standing keyboard warriors. --- "How is that a religious topic? That's just me talking about GOD." -Frostmourne ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 02/24/24 8:19:00 PM #43: |
Dark_Arbron posted...
That's kind of how reality works for people who are facing real consequences and who don't have the luxury of being moral grand standing keyboard warriors.It's literally the primary and the op-ed writer & constituents mentioned by Beto are exactly the kind of people "facing real consequences". Do you know how elections work in the US --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningThief 02/24/24 8:24:17 PM #44: |
Doe posted... It's literally the primary and the op-ed writer & constituents mentioned by Beto are exactly the kind of people "facing real consequences". Do you know how elections work in the USTo his defense there are literally Trumpgressives in this topic telling people not to vote in November. 1337toothbrush is a known Trumpgressive pretending to be a progressive and telling others to join him in November to not vote. That or his other gimmick of claiming to be a progressive who will vote, but oh so strongly sees the great value in others not voting in November. In otherwords, messaging to improve Trumps odds. People like 1337 isn't just talking about the primary, they mean the general too. Less people voting improves the Republicans odds. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 02/24/24 8:25:04 PM #45: |
Doe posted...
It's literally the primary and the op-ed writer & constituents mentioned by Beto are exactly the kind of people "facing real consequences". Do you know how elections work in the US I don't live in the US and there's a lot I don't know about its election mechanics. But given this discussion always comes down to "I don't want Trump either but I can't condone Biden's support of Israel, even though it's actually the US itself that supports Israel regardless of who the president is, so I'm going to abstain from voting and pretend that keeps my hands clean." So, what I said stands. If you are trying to convince people not to vote for Biden, the man with the best chance of beating Trump in November, then you are aiding Trump. Either directly or indirectly, whether you admit it or not. And given 1337toothbrush's history on 261, I'm not entirely sure which it is. --- "How is that a religious topic? That's just me talking about GOD." -Frostmourne ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 02/24/24 8:29:42 PM #46: |
Dark_Arbron posted...
I don't live in the US and there's a lot I don't know about its election mechanics.Okay. The primary is what either party has before the general election so its only Biden against other Democrat candidates right now. But Biden is the incumbent and the party thinks he is still the strongest candidate so no serious Democrat with power and stakes will run against him. With that in mind the point of the Uncomitted vote is to try to show with actual registered votes that people want Biden to change his policy on Gaza going into the general election. The outcome of the election ORourke is endorsing Uncommited in has a 0% possibility of impact on Biden v Trump in November. ORourke has in no way said people should not vote for Biden when it is Biden v Trump in November. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Background_Guy 02/24/24 8:37:48 PM #47: |
ablegator posted... No, it sends the message that Democrats need to run a real progressive.There were real progressives on the ballot in 2016 and 2020 and the Democratic voters did not want them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 02/24/24 8:38:22 PM #48: |
ssk9716757 posted...
Try not to sound so excited about itfafo --- lolAmerica ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 02/24/24 8:40:29 PM #49: |
ClayGuida posted...
fafoUh, so you are excited for marginalized groups to get mass deported if one on CE doesnt vote? --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ButteryMales 02/24/24 8:43:18 PM #50: |
ssb_yunglink2 posted... Ah yes, i cant wait for the progressive policies that 4 years of Trump will lead to.After 8 years of George W. Bush there was a Democratic supermajority which lead to ACA. ClayGuida posted... Biden is absolutely a progressive President and has accomplished more in 4 years than Bernie could have ever dreamed of.The parliamentarian struck down $15 minimum wage. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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