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Inohira 11/04/23 7:39:05 PM #1: |
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/04/up-to-30000-protesters-expected-for-pro-palestinian-rally-in-dc-on-saturday
Tens of thousands of pro-Palestinian protesters marched through downtown Washington DC on Saturday in what organizers hoped was the largest US demonstration of its kind since Israel began its bombardment of Gaza after Hamas attacked the country last month. Brian Becker, the director of Answer, told the crowd in Washington that US public support for the Palestinian people had entered a new era unlike any that had come before it. The change comes from us, he said. Were sending a strong message, a very strong message to Joe Biden: if you stand with genocide, we hold you guilty of genocide. People are mortified by the carnage, he said. And they are equally mortified that the Biden administration has insisted that there not be a cease-fire. Oof. --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giacomo_Hawkins 11/04/23 7:42:22 PM #2: |
So they'll . . . vote for Trump instead?
Abstain from voting altogether? --- Will the little voice in the back of my mind screaming "This is a bad idea" please yield the floor. --Mikey Chivalry be hanged, and so will you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkace77450 11/04/23 7:43:32 PM #3: |
Okay. And if that costs Biden the election, his opponent will surely cut support for Israel, demand Palestinians be treated humanely, continue funding Ukraine's fight against their Russian aggressors, ensure women regain bodily autonomy, and strengthen the institutions that uphold American democracy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 11/04/23 7:43:55 PM #4: |
Sounds like tens of thousands of people are stupid
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ssk9716757 11/04/23 7:44:05 PM #5: |
Giacomo_Hawkins posted...
So they'll . . . vote for Trump instead? Both would be bad, sounds like Biden should work harder to earn their votes --- "GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site." -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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a-c-a-b 11/04/23 7:48:26 PM #6: |
Fuck Biden but lets not pretend like any other U.S. administration wouldn't be doing the exact same thing.
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Solar_Crimson 11/04/23 7:50:12 PM #7: |
a-c-a-b posted...
lets not pretend like any other U.S. administration wouldn't be doing the exact same thing. --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sahel 11/04/23 7:50:17 PM #8: |
Giacomo_Hawkins posted...
So they'll . . . vote for Trump instead?https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1bde6a92.jpg --- "Games don't get worse over time. Only your expectations change. A game from 1999 is going to play the same in 2017." - Vegeta1000 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssk9716757 11/04/23 7:50:29 PM #9: |
I think a lot of people underestimate the power of lying. Republicans do it all the time. Just lie and let Dems think you wont vote for them and let them scramble to earn the votes
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the_crow13 11/04/23 7:52:59 PM #11: |
Thats their right as an American citizen, but I dont expect any viable American politician running for president to have a different position than Biden this election.
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Doe 11/04/23 7:53:42 PM #12: |
Let's fucking go
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brestugo 11/04/23 7:54:04 PM #13: |
ssk9716757 posted...
Both would be bad, sounds like Biden should work harder to earn their voteshttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5b3e97c3.jpg --- Putin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raiden2909 11/04/23 7:56:24 PM #14: |
This seems like a dumb idea.. You are willing to trade in politician whose party is at least somewhat sympathetic to your plight.. for a politician who himself and his party is completely against what you want to happen and is more then willing to pump more then enough money to ensure the exact opposite of what you want to have happen ends up happening ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoyoteTheGreat 11/04/23 8:00:44 PM #16: |
At the end of the day, there has to be some stopping point to keep the Democratic party from just becoming the Republican party. If voters can't use their votes to do this, what exactly is left? And the issue at stake here is literally "Is genocide and ethnic cleansing okay?". The message to the Democratic party should be that they can't put out candidates who think it is okay and will have our country actively fund those things. Pro-Israel democrats shouldn't be treated any different than anti-abortion democrats. There has to be a line in the sand for these kinds of things.
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cjsdowg 11/04/23 8:01:17 PM #17: |
People don't seem to understand what people are doing. This is the long game. Democrats know they can treat minorities like bad. Because Republicans are so horrible. So they are like we don't care about you, but at least we don't hate you.
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Humble_Novice 11/04/23 8:03:48 PM #19: |
Were these people even going to vote for Democrats to begin with? I distinctly remember Rose Twitter saying they wouldn't vote for Biden or the Democratic Party all the way from 2020 to now.
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darkace77450 11/04/23 8:04:53 PM #20: |
ssk9716757 posted... Both would be bad, sounds like Biden should work harder to earn their votes And doing so won't cost him any votes from pro-Israel liberals? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 11/04/23 8:05:10 PM #21: |
Humble_Novice posted...
Were these people even going to vote for Democrats to begin with? I distinctly remember Rose Twitter saying they wouldn't vote for Biden or the Democratic Party all the way from 2020 to now.ITP opposing ethnic cleansing is relegated to "Rose Twitter" --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mystereave 11/04/23 8:11:48 PM #22: |
I wish I knew more about geopolitics, so I could understand how we're supposed to actually get a cease-fire going, given how deep this conflict seems to run between both sides. Like, even if we have the presence to get Israel to chill, you'd still have to get Hamas to agree to something as well, and just at a cursory glance that doesn't sound so simple. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 11/04/23 8:13:44 PM #23: |
While I want a cease-fire too being pro-israel and pandering to those voters is more important to Biden.
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creativerealms 11/04/23 8:15:04 PM #24: |
Giacomo_Hawkins posted...
So they'll . . . vote for Trump instead?Probably abstain. Voting for Trump when you are pro-Palestine is counter productive. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 11/04/23 8:15:43 PM #25: |
Abstaining is voting for Trump
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itachi15243 11/04/23 8:16:29 PM #26: |
What fucking idiots
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runewalshPSiv 11/04/23 8:17:01 PM #27: |
Irony posted...
Sounds like tens of thousands of people are stupid Incredibly stupid. Do they not understand hamas is not going to stop just because Israel does? --- There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, a state of bliss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 11/04/23 8:17:44 PM #28: |
Shut the fuck up
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emblem-man 11/04/23 8:18:05 PM #29: |
Hamas should give themselves up and release the hostages as well
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Strand 11/04/23 8:18:53 PM #30: |
creativerealms posted...
While I want a cease-fire too being pro-israel and pandering to those voters is more important to Biden.Most voters want Biden to call for a ceasefire. https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2023/10/19/voters-agree-the-us-should-call-for-a-ceasefire-and-de-escalation-of-violence-in-gaza --- "I am a man of somewhat retiring, and I might even say refined, tastes, and there is nothing more unaesthetic than a policeman." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forty_Niners 11/04/23 8:23:23 PM #31: |
So either he listens to his constituents or he listens to the war mongers in his cabinet.
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creativerealms 11/04/23 8:23:49 PM #32: |
Irony posted...
Abstaining is voting for TrumpNot in this case. In the case of the Palestine issue both are equally terrible. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssk9716757 11/04/23 8:24:25 PM #33: |
emblem-man posted...
Hamas should give themselves up and release the hostages as well yes then israel will certainly stop killing Palestinians, just like they do currently in the West Bank where there is no Hamas --- "GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site." -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 11/04/23 8:26:02 PM #34: |
Strand posted...
Most voters want Biden to call for a ceasefire.I am well aware that the voting public, including Republican voters tend to be more progressive then politicians. Unfortunately that doesn't matter. We should live in a country where the people we vote for represent our interests but say that isn't the case. Because that's the current horrid state of our government. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nocturnal_traveler 11/04/23 8:32:00 PM #35: |
Pro-Palestine American voters are in the minority. The majority are either pro-Israel, or just don't give a shit.
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Doe 11/04/23 8:34:29 PM #36: |
creativerealms posted...
I am well aware that the voting public, including Republican voters tend to be more progressive then politicians. Unfortunately that doesn't matter. We should live in a country where the people we vote for represent our interests but say that isn't the case. Because that's the current horrid state of our government.So your solution is to... vote for the party that is less worse until one day the other one drops the voting pretense altogether... and then what? --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xlr_big-coop 11/04/23 8:35:31 PM #37: |
As they should, hope they don't forget about this within a year like most people do. We'll see if this really affects Biden next year.
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BunkerBoy 11/04/23 8:38:33 PM #38: |
xlr_big-coop posted... As they should, hope they don't forget about this within a year like most people do. We'll see if this really affects Biden next year.You're a Trump slurper, so kindly shut the fuck up ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssk9716757 11/04/23 8:40:53 PM #39: |
In a year when Dems lose theyll wonder why vote for the guy supporting the bombing because they other will support even more bombing didnt drive voters to the polls
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nocturnal_traveler 11/04/23 8:44:14 PM #40: |
ssk9716757 posted...
In a year when Dems lose theyll wonder why vote for the guy supporting the bombing because they other will support even more bombing didnt drive voters to the pollsAnd in even less than a year after that, people will wonder why the Republicans are doubling down on supporting the bombing while making their own citizens day to day lives worse. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssk9716757 11/04/23 8:48:04 PM #41: |
nocturnal_traveler posted...
And in even less than a year after that, people will wonder why the Republicans are doubling down on supporting the bombing while making their own citizens day to day lives worse. no one will wonder that --- "GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site." -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FlyEaglesFly24 11/04/23 8:49:11 PM #42: |
I have absolutely no problem with this. It is obvious at this point that security for Israel is tied to Palestinian freedom.
The terrorists that committed the October 7th massacres need to be hunted to the ends of the Earth and brought to justice. I would call on the entire Arab world to hand over the leaders of Hamas to be tried for that. There is a war to be fought until that happens, unfortunately. However, someone needs to remind the Israelis that if you really are going to be a light among the nations, a beacon of freedom and democracy in the Middle East, if thats going to be the platform you want to hang your hat on, then its high time they concede the religious nationalistic stuff in favor of a nationalism predicated on those ideals. That way when someone asks a Rabbi like Hillel to teach the Torah while standing on one foot and he replies Love your neighbor as you would yourself, their neighbors would actually be convinced that they mean it. Like that bullshit document that apparently leaked this week where they want relocate all of Gaza to Egypt. Thats bullshit, and will do nothing but set the peace process back a few decades. Nothing Jewish about it, and I condemn whoever wrote it. At the same time, its also important for the Free Palestine Movement to embrace that End Racism idea and do what they can to help curb the rising tide of antisemitism as well. (I know there are many that are already doing this, but it needs to be universal.) Otherwise, all you are doing is saying that you only want racism to end when you are the victim, and that never works. Obviously saying this is easy, doing it, not so much. End Rant --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trivialbeing 11/04/23 8:50:28 PM #43: |
ssk9716757 posted... Both would be bad, sounds like Biden should work harder to earn their votesBiden can coast on the fact that at least he's not Trump for only so long ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 11/04/23 8:50:44 PM #44: |
I'm sure Trump will back Palestine and not also make things far worse at home.
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nocturnal_traveler 11/04/23 8:50:53 PM #45: |
ssk9716757 posted...
no one will wonder thatI know. Because the media will just use fear mongering as a reason to make the bombings seem justified. People are stupid. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_Gear_Raxis 11/04/23 8:53:10 PM #46: |
I'm absolutely going to vote Dem still because the alternative is just that terrible, but fuck if the Dem's unbridled support for Isreal's ongoing genocide isn't stretching "vote blue no matter who" to its breaking point.
nocturnal_traveler posted... And in even less than a year after that, people will wonder why the Republicans are doubling down on supporting the bombing while making their own citizens day to day lives worse.No they won't. --- As the morning sun rises, my lingering memories fade. I no longer see your silhouette. It's too far gone into the haze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 11/04/23 8:53:16 PM #47: |
creativerealms posted...
Not in this case. In the case of the Palestine issue both are equally terrible.Well then I guess it's fine to doom hundreds of millions of Americans and destroy the country since both parties agree on capitulating to Israel! --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IceCreamOnStero 11/04/23 8:53:37 PM #48: |
"Do thing I want and I'll vote for you" is basic politics. What's the problem?
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Amakusa 11/04/23 8:53:54 PM #50: |
Irony posted...
Abstaining is voting for TrumpNot necessarily (I mean, stranger things have happened and it's not the only outcome), but Abstaining does revoke their right to complain when the person they don't want in charge wins. Abstaining is more or less saying you want the outcome of the vote out of your hands. --- I will rule the world, and find that truly good cup of coffee. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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