Poll of the Day > Phil Spencer wants to buy Nintendo

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papercup 09/19/23 10:42:52 AM #1:	https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/19/23880146/phil-spencer-microsoft-xbox-acquiring-nintendo The people that cheered on the Activision deal and want this to happen have absolutely no idea what they're in for if Microsoft ends up owning the industry. If this ever happens, I'm quitting gaming. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:976169979] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/19/23880146/phil-spencer-microsoft-xbox-acquiring-nintendoThe people that cheered on the Activision deal and want this to happen have absolutely no idea what they're in for if Microsoft ends up owning the industry. If this ever happens, I'm quitting gaming. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/19/23 11:01:52 AM #2:	Lol that's never gonna happen <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:976170292] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Lol that's never gonna happen </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/19/23 11:23:33 AM #3:	Isn't it a Japanese law that a big company like that can't be bought by a foreign entity? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:976170684] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Isn't it a Japanese law that a big company like that can't be bought by a foreign entity? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garlands_Soul 09/19/23 11:39:10 AM #4:	Glad that won't happen --- "I, Garland, will knock you all down!" <cite>Garlands_Soul posted [p:976170968] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Glad that won't happen </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler-X 09/19/23 11:42:25 AM #5:	That would destroy my entire interest in VG consoles. X-Box just keeps piling on the reasons for my dislike to increase into hate. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler-X posted [p:976171022] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>That would destroy my entire interest in VG consoles. X-Box just keeps piling on the reasons for my dislike to increase into hate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 09/19/23 11:43:49 AM #6:	Nichtcrawler-X posted... That would destroy my entire interest in VG consoles. X-Box just keeps piling on the reasons for my dislike to increase into hate. i hate the Michael soft X-Box!!!!!! --- im gay <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:976171052] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Nichtcrawler-X posted... </cite><quote>That would destroy my entire interest in VG consoles. X-Box just keeps piling on the reasons for my dislike to increase into hate.</quote>i hate the Michael soft X-Box!!!!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SinisterSlay 09/19/23 11:47:58 AM #7:	So we'd actually get Nintendo games on PC? And maybe Nintendo can take some money from their legal department and put it towards developing new hardware? It might actually be the best thing for Nintendo. As it is they are very toxic. But I'm pretty sure it would never be allowed, they are the third and only other console competitor. --- He who stumbles around in darkness with a stick is blind. But he who... sticks out in darkness... is... fluorescent! - Brother Silence Lose 50 experience <cite>SinisterSlay posted [p:976171130] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>So we'd actually get Nintendo games on PC? And maybe Nintendo can take some money from their legal department and put it towards developing new hardware?It might actually be the best thing for Nintendo. As it is they are very toxic.But I'm pretty sure it would never be allowed, they are the third and only other console competitor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PK_Spam 09/19/23 11:52:50 AM #8:	Maybe Metroid Girl will be in Fortnite alongside Xenoblade Boobs if that happens --- "You're not a good person, you'll never be one, you'll never even convince anyone to mistakenly believe you to be one." -HCE to me <cite>PK_Spam posted [p:976171206] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Maybe Metroid Girl will be in Fortnite alongside Xenoblade Boobs if that happens </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 09/19/23 11:53:41 AM #9:	Nintendo should buy Phil --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:976171225] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Nintendo should buy Phil </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shrek 09/19/23 11:59:47 AM #10:	Revelation34 posted... Isn't it a Japanese law that a big company like that can't be bought by a foreign entity? no --- if i wasn't important then why would you waste all your poison <cite>Shrek posted [p:976171341] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>Isn't it a Japanese law that a big company like that can't be bought by a foreign entity?</quote>no </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 09/19/23 12:04:18 PM #11:	SinisterSlay posted... So we'd actually get Nintendo games on PC? Is that really the take away? Or even what would happen if Microsoft did buy Nintendo? And maybe Nintendo can take some money from their legal department and put it towards developing new hardware? They are developing new hardware, all signs point to it releasing next year, that and we've known for a while now that nvidia is engineering a chip for the Switch 2 that's based on the 3080Ti architecture. It might actually be the best thing for Nintendo. As it is they are very toxic. Would it though? Nintendo is clearly very happy with their current domineering console market share, and thanks to the movie, Mario is currently enjoying a renaissance of popularity. Everything Nintendo releases on Switch prints money. And, are they toxic? Or are they just protective of their IPs, as they should be? But I'm pretty sure it would never be allowed, they are the third and only other console competitor. Hopefully it will never be allowed, yes. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:976171428] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>SinisterSlay posted... </cite><quote>So we'd actually get Nintendo games on PC? </quote>Is that really the take away? Or even what would happen if Microsoft did buy Nintendo?<quote>And maybe Nintendo can take some money from their legal department and put it towards developing new hardware?</quote>They are developing new hardware, all signs point to it releasing next year, that and we've known for a while now that nvidia is engineering a chip for the Switch 2 that's based on the 3080Ti architecture.<quote>It might actually be the best thing for Nintendo. As it is they are very toxic.</quote>Would it though? Nintendo is clearly very happy with their current domineering console market share, and thanks to the movie, Mario is currently enjoying a renaissance of popularity. Everything Nintendo releases on Switch prints money. And, are they toxic? Or are they just protective of their IPs, as they should be?<quote>But I'm pretty sure it would never be allowed, they are the third and only other console competitor.</quote>Hopefully it will never be allowed, yes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SinisterSlay 09/19/23 12:19:40 PM #12:	papercup posted... And, are they toxic? Or are they just protective of their IPs, as they should be? Well considering they keep losing money, and purposely sabotage any and all community good will. They operate illegally and seize money from YouTube. They are kind of a shit company in many ways. But has been proven over and over, American companies can't integrate with Japanese company culture. So if Microsoft could somehow buy them, it would destroy them. I mean just how many more times will they steal everyone's digital purchases before people learn? --- He who stumbles around in darkness with a stick is blind. But he who... sticks out in darkness... is... fluorescent! - Brother Silence Lose 50 experience <cite>SinisterSlay posted [p:976171699] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>papercup posted... </cite><quote>And, are they toxic? Or are they just protective of their IPs, as they should be?</quote>Well considering they keep losing money, and purposely sabotage any and all community good will. They operate illegally and seize money from YouTube. They are kind of a shit company in many ways. But has been proven over and over, American companies can't integrate with Japanese company culture. So if Microsoft could somehow buy them, it would destroy them.I mean just how many more times will they steal everyone's digital purchases before people learn? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 09/19/23 12:20:48 PM #13:	I need this to happen. --- Software Architect / Code Janitor / Professional Sheep Herder <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:976171720] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>I need this to happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 09/19/23 12:29:42 PM #14:	That would be terrible and hopefully illegal. <cite>Yellow posted [p:976171895] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>That would be terrible and hopefully illegal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 09/19/23 12:31:17 PM #15:	Didnt they already try and they got laughed out this is news that shouldnt even be news Arv wants to buy nintendo --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:976171923] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Didnt they already try and they got laughed out this is news that shouldnt even be news Arv wants to buy nintendo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SinisterSlay 09/19/23 12:35:10 PM #16:	ArvTheGreat posted... Didnt they already try and they got laughed out this is news that shouldnt even be news Arv wants to buy nintendo The same email this is based on also says they tried to buy Valve, and we're also laughed out since Gabe hates Microsoft. --- He who stumbles around in darkness with a stick is blind. But he who... sticks out in darkness... is... fluorescent! - Brother Silence Lose 50 experience <cite>SinisterSlay posted [p:976172006] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>ArvTheGreat posted... </cite><quote>Didnt they already try and they got laughed out this is news that shouldnt even be news Arv wants to buy nintendo</quote>The same email this is based on also says they tried to buy Valve, and we're also laughed out since Gabe hates Microsoft. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nade_Duck 09/19/23 12:37:10 PM #17:	buying activision was great because that company is a piece of shit and deserved having the rug pulled from under them. nintendo is overprotective about their IPs and dumb about the internet, that's it. there is nothing potentially good about this deal. --- http://i.imgur.com/ElACjJD.gifv "Most of the time, I have a whole lot more sperm inside me than most women do." - adjl <cite>Nade_Duck posted [p:976172045] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>buying activision was great because that company is a piece of shit and deserved having the rug pulled from under them. nintendo is overprotective about their IPs and dumb about the internet, that's it. there is nothing potentially good about this deal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/19/23 12:47:57 PM #18:	This would absolutely suck SinisterSlay posted... So we'd actually get Nintendo games on PC? And maybe Nintendo can take some money from their legal department and put it towards developing new hardware? This wouldnt happen. Hed basically just get rid of Nintendo consoles and put Nintendo IPs on whatever he wanted Not only that, but the console would be expensive I like Nintendo consoles where they are because theyre affordable, tbh --- Currently Playing - Nobody saves the World (Switch Edition) Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm the LinkPizza you'll see around <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:976172303] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>This would absolutely suckSinisterSlay posted...</cite><quote>So we'd actually get Nintendo games on PC? And maybe Nintendo can take some money from their legal department and put it towards developing new hardware?</quote>This wouldnt happen. Hed basically just get rid of Nintendo consoles and put Nintendo IPs on whatever he wanted Not only that, but the console would be expensive I like Nintendo consoles where they are because theyre affordable, tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 09/19/23 1:14:56 PM #19:	I'm sure he would lol --- not a lot, just forever <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:976172828] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>I'm sure he would lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 09/19/23 1:40:01 PM #20:	SinisterSlay posted... So we'd actually get Nintendo games on PC? And maybe Nintendo can take some money from their legal department and put it towards developing new hardware? It might actually be the best thing for Nintendo. As it is they are very toxic. But I'm pretty sure it would never be allowed, they are the third and only other console competitor. Man, this is a lot of bad takes in one post, wow. SinisterSlay posted... Well considering they keep losing money Wut. Nintendo makes money hand over fist, always has. Out of the gate, too, unlike MS and Sony, which normally take years for them to turn profits on their newest consoles. Nintendo is an extremely rich and lucrative company. Anyways, this won't happen, and good, as it would be disastrous for video games as we know it. Mergers and acquistions are rarely good for video games as a whole anyways. --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:976173306] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>SinisterSlay posted... </cite><quote>So we'd actually get Nintendo games on PC? And maybe Nintendo can take some money from their legal department and put it towards developing new hardware?It might actually be the best thing for Nintendo. As it is they are very toxic.But I'm pretty sure it would never be allowed, they are the third and only other console competitor.</quote>Man, this is a lot of bad takes in one post, wow.SinisterSlay posted... </cite><quote>Well considering they keep losing money</quote>Wut. Nintendo makes money hand over fist, always has. Out of the gate, too, unlike MS and Sony, which normally take years for them to turn profits on their newest consoles. Nintendo is an extremely rich and lucrative company. Anyways, this won't happen, and good, as it would be disastrous for video games as we know it. Mergers and acquistions are rarely good for video games as a whole anyways. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 09/19/23 1:44:47 PM #21:	After that, maybe he should buy Apple. --- not a lot, just forever <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:976173402] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>After that, maybe he should buy Apple. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SinisterSlay 09/19/23 1:50:48 PM #22:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... Man, this is a lot of bad takes in one post, wow. Wut. Nintendo makes money hand over fist, always has. Out of the gate, too, unlike MS and Sony, which normally take years for them to turn profits on their newest consoles. Nintendo is an extremely rich and lucrative company. Anyways, this won't happen, and good, as it would be disastrous for video games as we know it. Mergers and acquistions are rarely good for video games as a whole anyways. https://www.statista.com/statistics/216625/net-income-of-ni ntendo-since-2008/ They are starting their downswing again. We have to wait to see what happens --- He who stumbles around in darkness with a stick is blind. But he who... sticks out in darkness... is... fluorescent! - Brother Silence Lose 50 experience <cite>SinisterSlay posted [p:976173552] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite><quote>Man, this is a lot of bad takes in one post, wow.Wut. Nintendo makes money hand over fist, always has. Out of the gate, too, unlike MS and Sony, which normally take years for them to turn profits on their newest consoles. Nintendo is an extremely rich and lucrative company. Anyways, this won't happen, and good, as it would be disastrous for video games as we know it. Mergers and acquistions are rarely good for video games as a whole anyways.</quote>https://www.statista.com/statistics/216625/net-income-of-ni ntendo-since-2008/They are starting their downswing again. We have to wait to see what happens </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 09/19/23 1:51:12 PM #23:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... Man, this is a lot of bad takes in one post, wow. Wut. Nintendo makes money hand over fist, always has. Out of the gate, too, unlike MS and Sony, which normally take years for them to turn profits on their newest consoles. Nintendo is an extremely rich and lucrative company. Anyways, this won't happen, and good, as it would be disastrous for video games as we know it. Mergers and acquistions are rarely good for video games as a whole anyways. I agree with most of this, but I think acquisitions of talented smallish studios can be a good thing. It's hard to imagine Nintendo without Retro. --- not a lot, just forever <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:976173565] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite><quote>Man, this is a lot of bad takes in one post, wow.Wut. Nintendo makes money hand over fist, always has. Out of the gate, too, unlike MS and Sony, which normally take years for them to turn profits on their newest consoles. Nintendo is an extremely rich and lucrative company. Anyways, this won't happen, and good, as it would be disastrous for video games as we know it. Mergers and acquistions are rarely good for video games as a whole anyways.</quote>I agree with most of this, but I think acquisitions of talented smallish studios can be a good thing. It's hard to imagine Nintendo without Retro. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ConfusedTorchic 09/19/23 2:16:41 PM #24:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... Nintendo is an extremely rich and lucrative company. microsoft paid more for activision than nintendo is even worth lmao. nintendo, while lucrative, is not worth that much in the global space. about 57b. microsoft essentially gives the xbox division a blank check, and while they and everyone else would love to own nintendo, nintendo isn't for sale, the only way to get them at this point would be a hostile takeover, which is near impossible to even do in japan due to the myriad of protections specifically for that at most we're only ever going to see a partnership, which they already have. nintendo allows people to sign into their xbox account in various microsoft titles on the switch, which is just minecraft stuff iirc, and nintendo helped microsoft beat the ftc and cma with them agreeing to partner with microsoft on various abk titles. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc <cite>ConfusedTorchic posted [p:976174106] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite><quote>Nintendo is an extremely rich and lucrative company.</quote>microsoft paid more for activision than nintendo is even worth lmao.nintendo, while lucrative, is not worth that much in the global space. about 57b. microsoft essentially gives the xbox division a blank check, and while they and everyone else would love to own nintendo, nintendo isn't for sale, the only way to get them at this point would be a hostile takeover, which is near impossible to even do in japan due to the myriad of protections specifically for thatat most we're only ever going to see a partnership, which they already have. nintendo allows people to sign into their xbox account in various microsoft titles on the switch, which is just minecraft stuff iirc, and nintendo helped microsoft beat the ftc and cma with them agreeing to partner with microsoft on various abk titles. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 09/19/23 3:24:45 PM #25:	SinisterSlay posted... https://www.statista.com/statistics/216625/net-income-of-ni ntendo-since-2008/ They are starting their downswing again. We have to wait to see what happens That won't load for me, but I see the sentence how they are down this year from last, 3.25B vs 3.9B. That's not atypical, considering the Switch is at the end of it's life span. Normal revenue deviation that doesn't counter the fact that they are very rich. McSame_as_Bush posted... I agree with most of this, but I think acquisitions of talented smallish studios can be a good thing. It's hard to imagine Nintendo without Retro. This is true. A studio like Retro probably would never get off the ground without a big one like Nintendo bankrolling them. That makes sense for smaller acquisitions, but it becomes concerning when big publishers buy other big ones. ConfusedTorchic posted... microsoft paid more for activision than nintendo is even worth lmao. nintendo, while lucrative, is not worth that much in the global space. about 57b. lol no. Nintendo is worth just shy of $100B. MS bought Activision Blizzard for $69B, all cash (nice). Market cap isn't the same as actual worth, and Japan doesn't use the rampant market speculation that America does to value index a company. It's the 3rd largest company in Japan. People also seem to forget that it owns 1/3 of Pokemon, the most valuable IP in the world. --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:976175476] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>SinisterSlay posted... </cite><quote>https://www.statista.com/statistics/216625/net-income-of-ni ntendo-since-2008/They are starting their downswing again. We have to wait to see what happens</quote>That won't load for me, but I see the sentence how they are down this year from last, 3.25B vs 3.9B. That's not atypical, considering the Switch is at the end of it's life span. Normal revenue deviation that doesn't counter the fact that they are very rich.McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite><quote>I agree with most of this, but I think acquisitions of talented smallish studios can be a good thing. It's hard to imagine Nintendo without Retro.</quote>This is true. A studio like Retro probably would never get off the ground without a big one like Nintendo bankrolling them. That makes sense for smaller acquisitions, but it becomes concerning when big publishers buy other big ones.ConfusedTorchic posted... </cite><quote>microsoft paid more for activision than nintendo is even worth lmao.nintendo, while lucrative, is not worth that much in the global space. about 57b.</quote>lol no. Nintendo is worth just shy of $100B. MS bought Activision Blizzard for $69B, all cash (nice). Market cap isn't the same as actual worth, and Japan doesn't use the rampant market speculation that America does to value index a company. It's the 3rd largest company in Japan.People also seem to forget that it owns 1/3 of Pokemon, the most valuable IP in the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ConfusedTorchic 09/19/23 3:28:30 PM #26:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... Nintendo is worth just shy of $100B. just shy of 60b, actually. more specifically, 56.1b. and it's not speculation, it is their actual worth. that's the entire point behind valuations for a publicly traded company. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc <cite>ConfusedTorchic posted [p:976175545] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite><quote>Nintendo is worth just shy of $100B.</quote>just shy of 60b, actually. more specifically, 56.1b.and it's not speculation, it is their actual worth. that's the entire point behind valuations for a publicly traded company. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 09/19/23 3:32:09 PM #27:	ConfusedTorchic posted... just shy of 60b, actually. more specifically, 56.1b. Read the rest of the post. Market cap =/= worth, especially when talking about Japanese companies. You started off by scoffing at my (factual) claim that Nintendo is a very rich and lucrative company. Using what what one company paid to buy another isn't a counter-argument to this, and isn't even a good benchmark, since overpaying vs. actual worth always happens in company purchases. Just go ask Elon and Twitter. --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:976175606] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>ConfusedTorchic posted... </cite><quote>just shy of 60b, actually. more specifically, 56.1b.</quote>Read the rest of the post. Market cap =/= worth, especially when talking about Japanese companies.You started off by scoffing at my (factual) claim that Nintendo is a very rich and lucrative company. Using what what one company paid to buy another isn't a counter-argument to this, and isn't even a good benchmark, since overpaying vs. actual worth always happens in company purchases. Just go ask Elon and Twitter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ConfusedTorchic 09/19/23 3:36:22 PM #28:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... You started off by scoffing at my (factual) claim that Nintendo is a very rich and lucrative company. ConfusedTorchic posted... nintendo, while lucrative, is not worth that much in the global space. sure. CyborgSage00x0 posted... Using what what one company paid to buy another isn't a counter-argument to this, and isn't even a good benchmark it was an example lmao CyborgSage00x0 posted... Just go ask Elon and Twitter. elon offered way more than what twitter was even evaluated at, the elon/twitter scenario was created entirely due to elons big mouth, not anything else. CyborgSage00x0 posted... Market cap =/= worth, especially when talking about Japanese companies. it works the exact same way. for a publicly traded company, you go by market capitalization. and no, nintendo is not one of the big three in japan, it just barely made it to the 10 spot last year. the top 3 are toyota, nippon, and sony. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc <cite>ConfusedTorchic posted [p:976175696] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite><quote>You started off by scoffing at my (factual) claim that Nintendo is a very rich and lucrative company.</quote>ConfusedTorchic posted... </cite><quote>nintendo, while lucrative, is not worth that much in the global space.</quote>sure.CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite><quote>Using what what one company paid to buy another isn't a counter-argument to this, and isn't even a good benchmark</quote>it was an example lmaoCyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite><quote>Just go ask Elon and Twitter.</quote>elon offered way more than what twitter was even evaluated at, the elon/twitter scenario was created entirely due to elons big mouth, not anything else.CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite><quote>Market cap =/= worth, especially when talking about Japanese companies.</quote>it works the exact same way. for a publicly traded company, you go by market capitalization.and no, nintendo is not one of the big three in japan, it just barely made it to the 10 spot last year. the top 3 are toyota, nippon, and sony. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 09/19/23 3:46:20 PM #29:	Arv feels like theres so much mention of this so people on social media get their views everyone knew from when Xbox first started that they were sent to try and buy nintendo and other companies --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:976175921] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Arv feels like theres so much mention of this so people on social media get their views everyone knew from when Xbox first started that they were sent to try and buy nintendo and other companies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ConfusedTorchic 09/19/23 4:18:25 PM #30:	ArvTheGreat posted... Arv feels like theres so much mention of this so people on social media get their views everyone knew from when Xbox first started that they were sent to try and buy nintendo and other companies mhm and if anyone thinks that ever changed, or that anyone else also wouldn't want to buy them, is delusional. the email expresses that they wish nintendo, and valve, were for sale. wow. big deal. i also wish for things to be for sale that aren't. moreover, they even mention how hostile takeovers are not something they're even willing to engage in, and then they talk about how they were in consideration to buy tiktok, something we already knew they were considering back then, and how they were in talks to purchase wb games, and zenimax. of those two, they bought zenimax. this whole email is a non-issue about stuff we already knew about lmao --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc <cite>ConfusedTorchic posted [p:976176560] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>ArvTheGreat posted... </cite><quote>Arv feels like theres so much mention of this so people on social media get their views everyone knew from when Xbox first started that they were sent to try and buy nintendo and other companies</quote>mhmand if anyone thinks that ever changed, or that anyone else also wouldn't want to buy them, is delusional.the email expresses that they wish nintendo, and valve, were for sale. wow. big deal. i also wish for things to be for sale that aren't. moreover, they even mention how hostile takeovers are not something they're even willing to engage in, and then they talk about how they were in consideration to buy tiktok, something we already knew they were considering back then, and how they were in talks to purchase wb games, and zenimax. of those two, they bought zenimax. this whole email is a non-issue about stuff we already knew about lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jsb0714 09/19/23 8:19:53 PM #31:	SinisterSlay posted... Well considering they keep losing money... Well, that sealed it. You're completely clueless to reality. <cite>jsb0714 posted [p:976181150] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>SinisterSlay posted... </cite><quote>Well considering they keep losing money...</quote>Well, that sealed it. You're completely clueless to reality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 09/19/23 8:27:41 PM #32:	jsb0714 posted... Well, that sealed it. You're completely clueless to reality. That's why I stopped responding to him after the first time lol --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:976181303] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>jsb0714 posted... </cite><quote>Well, that sealed it. You're completely clueless to reality.</quote>That's why I stopped responding to him after the first time lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 09/19/23 9:22:13 PM #33:	McSame_as_Bush posted... I'm sure he would lol --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:976182263] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite><quote>I'm sure he would lol</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 09/20/23 3:37:58 AM #34:	I've said this before and I'll say it again, Nintendo would sooner burn down their entire company (and the video game industry in general) before they'd approve a corporate takeover --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:976187110] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>I've said this before and I'll say it again, Nintendo would sooner burn down their entire company (and the video game industry in general) before they'd approve a corporate takeover </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SoreChasm 09/20/23 4:24:21 AM #35:	I don't want Microsoft to own Nintendo, but I don't want Nintendo to own Nintendo, either. --- Never be afraid to show your emotions, even if they're fake. <cite>SoreChasm posted [p:976187431] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>I don't want Microsoft to own Nintendo, but I don't want Nintendo to own Nintendo, either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 09/20/23 8:30:45 AM #36:	Zareth posted... I've said this before and I'll say it again, Nintendo would sooner burn down their entire company (and the video game industry in general) before they'd approve a corporate takeover Indeed. If Nintendo ever actually gets taken over, I fully expect they'll just give up on making anything of quality purely for the sake of ruining that investment. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:976189497] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted... </cite><quote>I've said this before and I'll say it again, Nintendo would sooner burn down their entire company (and the video game industry in general) before they'd approve a corporate takeover</quote>Indeed. If Nintendo ever actually gets taken over, I fully expect they'll just give up on making anything of quality purely for the sake of ruining that investment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dmess85 09/20/23 10:00:22 AM #37:	Square Enix should buy Nintendo so the could do some kind of Mario Role Playing Game... imagine the possibilities! --- Previewing your message before you post is for suckers. --- <cite>Dmess85 posted [p:976190726] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Square Enix should buy Nintendo so the could do some kind of Mario Role Playing Game... imagine the possibilities! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SinisterSlay 09/20/23 10:01:21 AM #38:	Dmess85 posted... Square Enix should buy Nintendo so the could do some kind of Mario Role Playing Game... imagine the possibilities Nintendo litigiousness with squenix incompetence. Scary combo. Squenix, earn a cryptocurrency, Nintendo sues you for having a cryptocurrency. --- He who stumbles around in darkness with a stick is blind. But he who... sticks out in darkness... is... fluorescent! - Brother Silence Lose 50 experience <cite>SinisterSlay posted [p:976190757] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Dmess85 posted... </cite><quote>Square Enix should buy Nintendo so the could do some kind of Mario Role Playing Game... imagine the possibilities</quote>Nintendo litigiousness with squenix incompetence. Scary combo.Squenix, earn a cryptocurrency, Nintendo sues you for having a cryptocurrency. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/20/23 10:13:39 AM #39:	SinisterSlay posted... Nintendo litigiousness with squenix incompetence. Scary combo. Squenix, earn a cryptocurrency, Nintendo sues you for having a cryptocurrency. Square is just as bad as Nintendo when it comes to copyright. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:976190955] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>SinisterSlay posted...</cite><quote>Nintendo litigiousness with squenix incompetence. Scary combo.Squenix, earn a cryptocurrency, Nintendo sues you for having a cryptocurrency.</quote>Square is just as bad as Nintendo when it comes to copyright. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SinisterSlay 09/20/23 10:31:01 AM #40:	Revelation34 posted... Square is just as bad as Nintendo when it comes to copyright. I'm sure but too incompetent to do much about it --- He who stumbles around in darkness with a stick is blind. But he who... sticks out in darkness... is... fluorescent! - Brother Silence Lose 50 experience <cite>SinisterSlay posted [p:976191268] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>Square is just as bad as Nintendo when it comes to copyright.</quote>I'm sure but too incompetent to do much about it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 09/20/23 10:31:17 AM #41:	This is kind of funny, because Microsoft reportedly tried to buy Nintendo back in the early 2000s. Nintendo thought that MS was joking with them when they heard about it. SinisterSlay posted... Well considering they keep losing money, and purposely sabotage any and all community good will. Their last three years were literally their most profitable in the company's history. They had a profit of over $4 billion in fiscal 2021. Not revenue; profit. They haven't "lost money" (i.e. had a net negative year) in almost a decade, according to their financial reports. SinisterSlay posted... They operate illegally and seize money from YouTube. Well, first of all, what they did wasn't illegal. And more to the point, they haven't done that for years now. They abandoned their (admittedly dumb) Youtube policy of banning anyone from doing anything with Nintendo games unless they were part of the Creators program in 2018. Their only restriction now is that you can't post any game content before that game's release and you can't say that your videos are approved by Nintendo (unless they actually are), which are both perfectly understandable provisos; other than that, you are 100% free to make Youtube videos that use Nintendo games/IPs. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:976191272] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>This is kind of funny, because Microsoft reportedly tried to buy Nintendo back in the early 2000s. Nintendo thought that MS was joking with them when they heard about it.SinisterSlay posted... </cite><quote>Well considering they keep losing money, and purposely sabotage any and all community good will.</quote>Their last three years were literally their most profitable in the company's history. They had a profit of over $4 billion in fiscal 2021. Not revenue; profit. They haven't "lost money" (i.e. had a net negative year) in almost a decade, according to their financial reports.SinisterSlay posted... </cite><quote>They operate illegally and seize money from YouTube.</quote>Well, first of all, what they did wasn't illegal. And more to the point, they haven't done that for years now. They abandoned their (admittedly dumb) Youtube policy of banning anyone from doing anything with Nintendo games unless they were part of the Creators program in 2018. Their only restriction now is that you can't post any game content before that game's release and you can't say that your videos are approved by Nintendo (unless they actually are), which are both perfectly understandable provisos; other than that, you are 100% free to make Youtube videos that use Nintendo games/IPs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/20/23 10:35:40 AM #42:	darkknight109 posted... This is kind of funny, because Microsoft reportedly tried to buy Nintendo back in the early 2000s. Nintendo thought that MS was joking with them when they heard about it. Their last three years were literally their most profitable in the company's history. They had a profit of over $4 billion in fiscal 2021. Not revenue; profit. They haven't "lost money" (i.e. had a net negative year) in almost a decade, according to their financial reports. Well, first of all, what they did wasn't illegal. And more to the point, they haven't done that for years now. They abandoned their (admittedly dumb) Youtube policy of banning anyone from doing anything with Nintendo games unless they were part of the Creators program in 2018. Their only restriction now is that you can't post any game content before that game's release and you can't say that your videos are approved by Nintendo (unless they actually are), which are both perfectly understandable provisos; other than that, you are 100% free to make Youtube videos that use Nintendo games/IPs. Violating Fair Use to falsely claim copyright should be criminal. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:976191361] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>darkknight109 posted...</cite><quote>This is kind of funny, because Microsoft reportedly tried to buy Nintendo back in the early 2000s. Nintendo thought that MS was joking with them when they heard about it.Their last three years were literally their most profitable in the company's history. They had a profit of over $4 billion in fiscal 2021. Not revenue; profit. They haven't "lost money" (i.e. had a net negative year) in almost a decade, according to their financial reports.Well, first of all, what they did wasn't illegal. And more to the point, they haven't done that for years now. They abandoned their (admittedly dumb) Youtube policy of banning anyone from doing anything with Nintendo games unless they were part of the Creators program in 2018. Their only restriction now is that you can't post any game content before that game's release and you can't say that your videos are approved by Nintendo (unless they actually are), which are both perfectly understandable provisos; other than that, you are 100% free to make Youtube videos that use Nintendo games/IPs.</quote>Violating Fair Use to falsely claim copyright should be criminal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 09/20/23 11:10:29 AM #43:	Revelation34 posted... Violating Fair Use to falsely claim copyright should be criminal. The problem is Nintendo is based in Japan and Japan does not have a Fair Use exemption in their copyright laws. Hence, Nintendo's claims are valid under Japanese law. So Youtube has a choice - they can either enforce the claim for Japan only (i.e. block the videos in regions where Nintendo's claims can be enforced) or they can make life easy for themselves and just accept Nintendo's claims. Youtube being Youtube, it's not particularly surprising that they did the latter. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:976192022] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>Violating Fair Use to falsely claim copyright should be criminal.</quote>The problem is Nintendo is based in Japan and Japan does not have a Fair Use exemption in their copyright laws. Hence, Nintendo's claims are valid under Japanese law.So Youtube has a choice - they can either enforce the claim for Japan only (i.e. block the videos in regions where Nintendo's claims can be enforced) or they can make life easy for themselves and just accept Nintendo's claims. Youtube being Youtube, it's not particularly surprising that they did the latter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/20/23 12:32:06 PM #44:	darkknight109 posted... The problem is Nintendo is based in Japan and Japan does not have a Fair Use exemption in their copyright laws. Hence, Nintendo's claims are valid under Japanese law. So Youtube has a choice - they can either enforce the claim for Japan only (i.e. block the videos in regions where Nintendo's claims can be enforced) or they can make life easy for themselves and just accept Nintendo's claims. Youtube being Youtube, it's not particularly surprising that they did the latter. Youtube is an American company therefore a Japanese company has to abide by American law if they want to operate in America. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:976193654] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>darkknight109 posted...</cite><quote>The problem is Nintendo is based in Japan and Japan does not have a Fair Use exemption in their copyright laws. Hence, Nintendo's claims are valid under Japanese law.So Youtube has a choice - they can either enforce the claim for Japan only (i.e. block the videos in regions where Nintendo's claims can be enforced) or they can make life easy for themselves and just accept Nintendo's claims. Youtube being Youtube, it's not particularly surprising that they did the latter.</quote>Youtube is an American company therefore a Japanese company has to abide by American law if they want to operate in America. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 09/20/23 12:39:15 PM #45:	It's kinda funny how after 5 or whatever years the Switch has been out that Phil Spencer still does'nt have one... try a walmart like a poor person! --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:976193796] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>It's kinda funny how after 5 or whatever years the Switch has been out that Phil Spencer still does'nt have one...try a walmart like a poor person! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 09/20/23 1:08:49 PM #46:	Revelation34 posted... Square is just as bad as Nintendo when it comes to copyright. Yes but Square is so poorly managed that they'd never do anything about it. They expect everything they make to sell 30 million copies, then when it only sells 10 million they sell off half the company below market value. The fact that they still exist at all is kind of a miracle, they're literally held up by mobile gacha games and FFXIV. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:976194344] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>Square is just as bad as Nintendo when it comes to copyright.</quote>Yes but Square is so poorly managed that they'd never do anything about it. They expect everything they make to sell 30 million copies, then when it only sells 10 million they sell off half the company below market value. The fact that they still exist at all is kind of a miracle, they're literally held up by mobile gacha games and FFXIV. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 09/20/23 4:48:01 PM #47:	Revelation34 posted... Youtube is an American company therefore a Japanese company has to abide by American law if they want to operate in America. Doesn't work that way. Suppose, for instance, a Chinese content sharing platform, with subsidiaries in the US, was posting copyrighted material from an American company that didn't do business in China. Would they be allowed to do that if the sharing of that copyrighted material was in violation of US copyright law but not Chinese copyright law? Would American users be able to view and download that material without consequence? Answer: no (at least in theory; in practice, China considers all laws to be subject to its own whims on the subject). The US can (and famously has) go after people who violate its laws even if they live abroad. If you are providing content to the American market, you are subject to American laws; if you don't want to be subject to American laws, you must make reasonable efforts to restrict Americans from using your platform and viewing your content. In the same way, Youtube provides content to the Japanese market and is therefore subject to Japanese law. Notably, Google and Youtube also have offices and resources in Japan (it was actually their first overseas branch), which means that they can be punished in Japanese courts should they fail to comply with Japanese laws. Again, like the above, they could get around this by restricting viewership of the offending videos from Japanese audiences, but it's far easier for Youtube to just take Nintendo's side (far smarter to piss off a bunch of small content creators than a company with a 10 figure annual income) and remove the videos outright. Remember, it's up to Youtube as to how they enforce their own TOS. This is one of the areas where internet laws get really complicated in a hurry, because the "offender", the rights-holder, and the viewer can all live in different jurisdictions subject to different legal doctrines. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:976198975] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>Youtube is an American company therefore a Japanese company has to abide by American law if they want to operate in America.</quote>Doesn't work that way.Suppose, for instance, a Chinese content sharing platform, with subsidiaries in the US, was posting copyrighted material from an American company that didn't do business in China. Would they be allowed to do that if the sharing of that copyrighted material was in violation of US copyright law but not Chinese copyright law? Would American users be able to view and download that material without consequence?Answer: no (at least in theory; in practice, China considers all laws to be subject to its own whims on the subject). The US can (and famously has) go after people who violate its laws even if they live abroad. If you are providing content to the American market, you are subject to American laws; if you don't want to be subject to American laws, you must make reasonable efforts to restrict Americans from using your platform and viewing your content.In the same way, Youtube provides content to the Japanese market and is therefore subject to Japanese law. Notably, Google and Youtube also have offices and resources in Japan (it was actually their first overseas branch), which means that they can be punished in Japanese courts should they fail to comply with Japanese laws. Again, like the above, they could get around this by restricting viewership of the offending videos from Japanese audiences, but it's far easier for Youtube to just take Nintendo's side (far smarter to piss off a bunch of small content creators than a company with a 10 figure annual income) and remove the videos outright. Remember, it's up to Youtube as to how they enforce their own TOS.This is one of the areas where internet laws get really complicated in a hurry, because the "offender", the rights-holder, and the viewer can all live in different jurisdictions subject to different legal doctrines. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shrek 09/21/23 3:52:43 AM #48:	papercup posted... Yes but Square is so poorly managed that they'd never do anything about it. They expect everything they make to sell 30 million copies, then when it only sells 10 million they sell off half the company below market value. The fact that they still exist at all is kind of a miracle, they're literally held up by mobile gacha games and FFXIV. they also like to lie? they hyped up ff16 as selling excellently then in an earnings call it failed to meet expectations and it still hasn't sold as much as 15 did in its launch week which also was a failure to them --- if i wasn't important then why would you waste all your poison <cite>Shrek posted [p:976209558] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>papercup posted... </cite><quote>Yes but Square is so poorly managed that they'd never do anything about it. They expect everything they make to sell 30 million copies, then when it only sells 10 million they sell off half the company below market value. The fact that they still exist at all is kind of a miracle, they're literally held up by mobile gacha games and FFXIV.</quote>they also like to lie?they hyped up ff16 as selling excellentlythen in an earnings call it failed to meet expectations and it still hasn't sold as much as 15 did in its launch weekwhich also was a failure to them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 09/21/23 9:24:00 AM #49:	Shrek posted... they also like to lie? they hyped up ff16 as selling excellently then in an earnings call it failed to meet expectations and it still hasn't sold as much as 15 did in its launch week which also was a failure to them To me the biggest problem with Square is they don't know who they're making games for, and they don't know how to reach an audience. That Avengers game that I barely knew about is being taken off digital stores soon. They're making some Splatoon ripoff for some reason, that lacks all the charm and energy and appeal of Splatoon. Forspoken exists. They saw some success with Octopath Traveler, which really wasn't a bad game at all, it was just super repetitive in its chapter structure. But now they're pushing that 2D/3D HD hybrid artstyle on everything, which is honestly not the most appealing looking style and I wish they would step away from it. They put on a show for FF16 before its launch where they had influencers and developers talk about how great and amazing FF16 is for 3 hours, and in that entire time they showed like 10 minutes of actual gameplay. It just screams to me that they aren't confident in what they made. And add to that that old school FF fans didn't want it because it doesn't look or play like FF. Young people didn't want it because it's FF and FF is for boomers. I love FF and I haven't played 16 yet. I played the demo, and the demo was okay. I'll probably pick it up eventually. But it just feels like Square as a whole is completely out of touch. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:976212680] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>Shrek posted... </cite><quote>they also like to lie?they hyped up ff16 as selling excellentlythen in an earnings call it failed to meet expectations and it still hasn't sold as much as 15 did in its launch weekwhich also was a failure to them</quote>To me the biggest problem with Square is they don't know who they're making games for, and they don't know how to reach an audience. That Avengers game that I barely knew about is being taken off digital stores soon. They're making some Splatoon ripoff for some reason, that lacks all the charm and energy and appeal of Splatoon. Forspoken exists. They saw some success with Octopath Traveler, which really wasn't a bad game at all, it was just super repetitive in its chapter structure. But now they're pushing that 2D/3D HD hybrid artstyle on everything, which is honestly not the most appealing looking style and I wish they would step away from it. They put on a show for FF16 before its launch where they had influencers and developers talk about how great and amazing FF16 is for 3 hours, and in that entire time they showed like 10 minutes of actual gameplay. It just screams to me that they aren't confident in what they made. And add to that that old school FF fans didn't want it because it doesn't look or play like FF. Young people didn't want it because it's FF and FF is for boomers. I love FF and I haven't played 16 yet. I played the demo, and the demo was okay. I'll probably pick it up eventually. But it just feels like Square as a whole is completely out of touch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 09/21/23 9:42:59 AM #50:	I'm a huge JRPG guy, but I'll be honest, remakes aside I haven't seen anything I'd call interesting out of Squeenix since the PS2 days, and that's a long fuckin' time ago now. Their modern style of Final Fantasy just... doesn't really do it for me, and they stopped producing the smart, solidly designed, captivating games like Chrono Trigger or the Mana games (which really saw a drop off after the SNES/Super Famicom years). I dunno what changed at the company - maybe the Enix merger screwed up the corporate culture or something, but Square just doesn't seem to have the spark anymore. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:976212963] in Phil Spenc... [t:80570827]...</cite> <quote>I'm a huge JRPG guy, but I'll be honest, remakes aside I haven't seen anything I'd call interesting out of Squeenix since the PS2 days, and that's a long fuckin' time ago now. Their modern style of Final Fantasy just... doesn't really do it for me, and they stopped producing the smart, solidly designed, captivating games like Chrono Trigger or the Mana games (which really saw a drop off after the SNES/Super Famicom years).I dunno what changed at the company - maybe the Enix merger screwed up the corporate culture or something, but Square just doesn't seem to have the spark anymore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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