Poll of the Day > Boebert is a Grandmother at 36...

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/lauren-boebert-now-36-old-152353310.html

Do you think that's too young for a GiLF? (Poll Question)

I like the slapfights between her and Large Marge

everything about this is gross.

Im 33 and I dont feel like Im old enough to have a kid yet

She is 36? She looks 50.

and praised high rural teen birth rates as evidence that these communities "value life,"

And, of course, not that those communities have utterly ineffectual sex ed, poor access to contraception, and a complete dearth of things to do other than bang each other. Nope, must be that they're all choosing not to have abortions (which, of course, means nobody else should be able to choose to have one).

36 is definitely young but not necessarily too young.

26 would be too young.

36 is actually the youngest possible age a grandparent can be without being legally questionable, provided that both parties had children at age 18.

My mom was a grandma at 37

frankly its none of our business

Nope.

How improper! That's too young.

How horrible.

Zareth posted...

36 is actually the youngest possible age a grandparent can be without being legally questionable, provided that both parties had children at age 18.

If the gestation periods were less than 6 months, and each mother-to-be got pregnant right on her 18th birthday, sure. And even then, the grandmom-to-be would be about to turn 37. Somehow I don't think the math lines up.

I'm 39, she looks much older than me

Zareth posted...

36 is actually the youngest possible age a grandparent can be without being legally questionable, provided that both parties had children at age 18.

Depends on specific local AoC laws and the sperm donor's age. In Colorado's case, anyone 17 or older is fair game across the board, anyone 15 or 16 can have sex with anyone less than 10 years older than them, and anyone under 15 can have sex with anyone less than four years older than them. There's also a spousal exemption, and 16 or 17-year-olds can marry with parental consent. There doesn't seem to be an absolute minimum age. That means a girl can legally get pregnant as soon as she's physically capable of doing so, so long as the father is less than 4 years older. You could hypothetically get a 20-yar-old grandmother, provided the grandfather was only 24.

adjl posted...

You could hypothetically get a 20-yar-old grandmother

I'm going to need you to do the math on this one.

There's a bit of hypocrisy from Boebert in that there are children born out of wedlock involved here.

But frankly I don't care at all.

Boebert is a garbage human being, but her being a young grandma has pretty much nothing to do with it.

LonelyStoner posted...

I'm going to need you to do the math on this one.

Youngest recorded mother was under 10, so ADJL is not wrong.

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

Youngest recorded mother was under 10, so ADJL is not wrong.

Technically, no. I think the situation would be a bit different for Boebert if she had a pregnant 10 year old daughter who's daughter then also became pregnant at 10.

LonelyStoner posted...

Technically, no. I think the situation would be a bit different for Boebert if she had a pregnant 10 year old daughter who's daughter then also became pregnant at 10.

Well then shed be a great-grandmother.

Cacciato posted...

Well then shed be a great-grandmother.

God dammit.

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

Youngest recorded mother was under 10, so ADJL is not wrong.

Lina Medina gave birth at age 5 years, 7 months, and 21 days. She was less than 5 years old when she became pregnant.

She's apparently still alive and 89 years old. She has never revealed the identity of the father.

LonelyStoner posted...

I'm going to need you to do the math on this one.

So long as both the grandmother and mother were younger than 9.75 when they got pregnant (which is unusual and profoundly unhealthy, but not unheard of), they'd give birth before turning 11, which means the grandmother would be 20 at the time of her first grandchild's birth.

This is, of course, an absolutely hideous hypothetical situation that should never happen, but is not actually illegal under Colorado's laws so long as the father in both cases is less than four years older than the mother.

adjl posted...

So long as both the grandmother and mother were younger than 9.75 when they got pregnant (which is unusual and profoundly unhealthy, but not unheard of), they'd give birth before turning 11, which means the grandmother would be 20 at the time of her first grandchild's birth.

This is, of course, an absolutely hideous hypothetical situation that should never happen, but is not actually illegal under Colorado's laws so long as the father in both cases is less than four years older than the mother.

this is the world republicans want

https://youtu.be/RAA1xgTTw9w

Nade_Duck posted...

this is the world republicans want

https://apnews.com/article/child-marriage-west-virginia-bill-defeated- 4d822a23b5ffd70f5370a36cc914cfb0

Child marriage ban bill defeated in West Virginia House

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) A bill that would have prohibited minors from getting married in West Virginia was defeated Wednesday night in a legislative committee.

The Republican-dominated Senate Judiciary Committee rejected the bill on a 9-8 vote, a week after it passed the House of Delegates.

The vote came shortly after the bills main sponsor, Democratic Del. Kayla Young of Kanawha County, testified briefly before the committee. She said that since 2000 there have been more than 3,600 marriages in the state involving one or more children.

Currently, children can marry as young as 16 in West Virginia with parental consent. Anyone younger than that also must get a judges waiver.

For now, there will be no floor for the age of marriage in WV, endangering our kids, Young wrote on Twitter after the vote.

In a rebuke, Cabell County Democratic Sen. Mike Woelfel reminded the committee after the vote that Wednesday was International Womens Day.

Some of the bills opponents have argued that teenage marriages are a part of life in West Virginia.

Kanawha County Republican Sen. Mike Stuart, a former federal prosecutor who sided with the majority, said his vote wasnt a vote against women. He said his mother was married when she was 16, and six months later, I came along. Im the luckiest guy in the world.

The bill would have established that 18 is the age of consent and removed the ability of a minor to obtain consent through their parents, legal guardians, or by court petition. Existing legal marriages, including those done in other states, would have been unaffected.

According to the nonprofit group Unchained At Last, which seeks to end forced and child marriage, seven states have set the minimum age for marriage at 18, all since 2018. Supporters of such legislation say it reduces domestic violence, unwanted pregnancies and improves the lives of teens.

Although recent figures are unavailable, according to the Pew Research Center, West Virginia had the highest rate of child marriages among the states in 2014, when the states five-year average was 7.1 marriages for every 1,000 children ages 15 to 17.

i miss harambe.

Nade_Duck posted...

this is the world republicans want

https://www.newsweek.com/wyoming-ending-child-marriage- sparks-republican-outrage-1780501

Wyoming Limiting Child Marriage Sparks Republican Outrage

The Wyoming Republican Party is seeking to kill a bill working its way through the state Legislature proposing to raise the state's legal marriage age to 16, arguing that putting "arbitrary" limits on child marriage interferes with parental rights and religious liberty.

The billwhich already passed the Republican-controlled Wyoming House of Representatives on a 36-25 vote late last monthproposes banning state residents from marrying anyone under the age of 16, while requiring anyone under the age of 18 seeking to get married to receive written consent from their parents under the eye of a competent witness.

The debate has been a longstanding one in Wyoming.

Currently, Wyoming is one of just eight states in the countryincluding California, Michigan, Mississippi, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Washington and West Virginiawithout a minimum age requirement for marriage, and it currently ranks among the top ten states in the country for child marriages, according to a 2021 study by advocacy group Unchained at Last.

Efforts to raise the age of marriage in the state have consistently stalled. For years, now-retired Laramie Democratic Representative Charles Pelkey sponsored legislation to raise the age of marriage to 18, only to fail with every effort.

It's also a common practice across the country, even now: While the number of child marriages nationally has been in steady free fall over the last few decades, just seven states to date have voted to ban it entirely, even as countries like the Philippines passed national laws banning the practice.

Other states, like Tennessee, have actually sought to go in the opposite direction, with Republicans there seeking last year to eliminate any limits on marriage entirely until public outrage forced them to reverse course.

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https://www.newsweek.com/tennessee-bill-proposes- eliminating-marriage-age-requirements-1695209

Tennessee GOP Proposes Bill Eliminating Age Requirements for Marriage

Tennessee Republicans are moving forward with a bill that would eliminate age requirements for marriage in the state.

The bill, HB 233, is scheduled to be heard in the House Civil Justice Committee on Wednesday and would establish common-law marriage between "one man" and "one woman," but it does not include a minimum age requirement. Opponents of the bill said it could open up the possibility of child marriages. The current age for marriage in the state is 17 with parental consent, according to WKRN.

"So, all this bill does is give an alternative form of marriage for those pastors and other individuals who have a conscientious objection to the current pathway to marriage in our law," the bill's sponsor, Republican Representative Tom Leatherwood, was quoted by WKRN.

There is no federal legislation in the United States regarding the minimum age for marriage, and states are allowed to set their own parameters. Currently, child marriage is legal in 44 states and nearly 300,000 children were married between 2000 and 2018 across the country, according to United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF).

Democratic Representative Mike Stewart, who is on the subcommittee that passed the bill, said since there is no explicit age limit on the legislation, it could open up the possibility of covering up child abuse, WKRN reported.

"It should not be there as it's basically a get out of jail free card for people who are basically committing statutory rapeI mean it's completely ridiculous, so that's another reason why this terrible bill should be eliminated," Steward said.

No, but she's not worthy of the designation.

GGuirao13 posted...

No, but she's not worthy of the designation.

Wat.

Zareth posted...

36 is actually the youngest possible age a grandparent can be without being legally questionable, provided that both parties had children at age 18.

Pregnancies last 9 months, so I was thinking 37.5

^legally questionable? What if both kids were teens/kids?

If two 16 yos bonk are they both pedo?

Lokarin posted...

If two 16 yos bonk are they both pedo?

No.

Revelation34 posted...

Wat.

i believe the user is saying that she isnt hot enough to be a gilf

Lokarin posted...

If two 16 yos bonk are they both pedo?

Ostensibly, yes (technically ephebo, but nobody actually bothers making that distinction unless they're trying to justify bonking a high schooler), but it doesn't have the same pathological connotations as it does when applied to adults. Kids liking kids is normal and healthy. Adults liking kids, not so much.

captpackrat posted...

Currently, Wyoming is one of just eight states in the countryincluding California, Michigan, Mississippi, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Washington and West Virginiawithout a minimum age requirement for marriage, and it currently ranks among the top ten states in the country for child marriages, according to a 2021 study by advocacy group Unchained at Last.

That's weird for those states, especially California. If I had to guess for Cali, it likely never happens to make a law about it. Maybe.

I'm in NM, and no clue. Wild west mentality and never bothered to make a law of it?

But yeah, this is why the other states are called Y'all-queda.

I guess it's easier to not destroy your life having a baby at 17 when your family is rich.

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

That's weird for those states, especially California. If I had to guess for Cali, it likely never happens to make a law about it. Maybe.

https://www.calhealthreport.org/2021/09/10/california-laws-dont-prevent-minors-from-marrying-adults/

In 2018, California Sen. Jerry Hill (D-San Mateo) proposed a law, SB 273, that would have barred all marriages under age 18. The proposal faced unexpected pushback from several civil rights groups, including Planned Parenthood, the American Civil Liberties Union and the Childrens Law Center of California.

In a statement opposing the proposed ban, the ACLU said California already has sufficient legal and policy protections in place to protect youth from abuse, and that the data did not indicate that coerced marriage of minors is a widespread problem. Enacting the ban on marriages of minors could drive young people already in abusive relationships further underground, and parents intent on coercing minor children into marriage could simply resort to unofficial ceremonies away from the scrutiny of the courts. Additionally, removing the option to marry before age 18 could prevent young people who want to marry from doing so, the organization said.

Once married, minors in California also become emancipated, allowing them to divorce, hire an attorney and access services for adults, the ACLU said. This is not the case in all states.

Ultimately, lawmakers voted to allow marriages involving minors to continue, but they strengthened the review process for petitions involving youth under age 18. Stipulations include requiring family court staff to interview the parties intending to marry and the parents or guardian separately. Staff also must report to the countys Child Protective Services office if they suspect abuse or coercion.

^Huh. Did not expect pushback from PP or ACLU.

I guess that makes sense, in a way, since CA law already makes the process extremely vetted and thorough.

Everything is relative, but it's not too bad.

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

^Huh. Did not expect pushback from PP or ACLU.

I guess that makes sense, in a way, since CA law already makes the process extremely vetted and thorough.

Yeah, that seems like it's a case of "because the law didn't prevent it, we added other safeguards, and those might be undermined by making it illegal." Though I'm not sure I fully agree with the "they'll just get married unofficially" justification. They can already do that, and the whole point of making child marriage illegal is to close the marital loophole on statutory rape, which an unofficial marriage wouldn't circumvent. That said, the fact that it's PP and ACLU pushing back and not some creepy evangelist cult does help reassure me that the goal is actually to maximize child welfare instead of grasping at straws to justify retaining loopholes for the sake of permitting child exploitation.