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06/18/23 5:06:43 PM
#201:


yet another indignity for chris paul

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Sorozone
06/18/23 5:36:39 PM
#202:


Theyll probably have Booker play point.

But I have no idea. This team needed role players and a serviceable bench not another shooter.

Wizards got fleeced, not that they had much of a choice because of the NTC though.

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LeonhartFour
06/18/23 5:45:50 PM
#203:


Everybody was saying that the Wizards wouldn't get as much return for Beal as you'd think because that contract is such an albatross and they just want to get rid of it.

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Emeraldegg
06/18/23 5:47:29 PM
#204:


even so they managed to get less than I thought

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v_charon
06/18/23 5:47:41 PM
#205:


This is so abysmal. What is it with KD and teams like these.

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Sorozone
06/18/23 5:55:08 PM
#206:


v_charon posted...
This is so abysmal. What is it with KD and teams like these.

KD isn't orchestrating this one. This is 100% the new owner.

Even so, they go Beal for a box of scraps.

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Emeraldegg
06/18/23 6:03:10 PM
#207:


and somehow it might end up being a lose lose anyway

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changmas
06/18/23 6:49:38 PM
#208:


https://twitter.com/rohannadkarni/status/1670556229528174594?s=46&t=GLvOH2vb-KyGtAIkQT1H2w

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Leonhart4
06/18/23 6:55:23 PM
#209:


https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1670546090310139904

Looks like Chris Paul's tenure as a Wizard will be short-lived

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Sorozone
06/18/23 7:43:49 PM
#210:


https://twitter.com/JoshuaBRobbins/status/1670570705409196032

Suns are actually getting more out of this? What the.

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Football
06/18/23 8:14:46 PM
#211:


Strong feel for the game sounds like a nice way of saying he has no discernible skills to tweet about

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NBIceman
06/18/23 8:17:17 PM
#212:


Goodwin is a solid backup guard. But that's admittedly not a super sexy thing to put in the tweet either.

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MZero
06/18/23 9:23:33 PM
#213:


Well I like the starting lineup but the bench is still atrocious. Hopefully Ayton can be traded for a collection of roleplayers to a young team that wants to rebuild or something

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Sorozone
06/18/23 10:33:10 PM
#214:


Ayton needs to traded, or he just needs to change his whole mentality. I've always given him the benefit of the doubt, but when he continually shows you who he is, you have to guess that's who he is. Ayton with a fire under him could be good. We saw that in 2021, and in the playoff run.

I'm cautiously optimistic as of right now, but definitely need to see what the rest of this roster is going to look like. My dream is getting Kuzma somehow, and apparently he is going to be opting out, but if he wanted to come to the Suns dude is going to have take a serious paycut which I don't think he will do.

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Emeraldegg
06/19/23 12:55:55 AM
#215:


if by serious paycut you mean the minimum, yeah. The suns are over the cap just in their big 4.

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KommunistKoala
06/19/23 12:23:07 PM
#216:


rumors that Zion will be getting traded this week

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Leonhart4
06/19/23 12:24:46 PM
#217:


KommunistKoala posted...
rumors that Zion will be getting traded this week

I really hope he makes the Pelicans look dumb for this

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Leonhart4
06/19/23 1:29:34 PM
#218:


https://twitter.com/Suns/status/1488741619985641476

This Tweet takes on a whole new meaning now

Also Draymond is expected to opt out and enter free agency

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Leonhart4
06/19/23 3:29:25 PM
#219:


https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1670823435256176640

These are definitely the words of someone who has learned his lesson and will work to change his behavior

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Emeraldegg
06/19/23 3:37:07 PM
#220:


are you serious

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Sorozone
06/19/23 5:50:37 PM
#221:


Ja will probably never learn.

I mean it says indirectly, and not to give him any sort of benefit of the doubt, it seems his inner circle of friends and family are a major part why.

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LeonhartFour
06/19/23 5:55:03 PM
#222:


Chris Paul strongly suggested that Isiah Thomas was a factor in him being traded

we all know how well things go when you let Isiah run your team

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v_charon
06/20/23 10:21:02 AM
#223:


Leonhart4 posted...
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1670823435256176640

These are definitely the words of someone who has learned his lesson and will work to change his behavior


Ja broke his social media silence to refute this story. I would doubt its truthfulness because it makes very little sense, especially now that he's quickly said this is not true.

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neonreaper
06/20/23 12:29:15 PM
#224:


Tweets like those are pure yikes. I heard indirectly from someone who was perhaps once -upon-a-time someone who might have known something. People should just be shitting all over that.

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neonreaper
06/20/23 12:30:44 PM
#225:


Count me in the Im not sure this makes the Suns better camp for Beal.

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SeabassDebeste
06/20/23 12:37:49 PM
#226:


it's definitely unclear it makes the suns better but it's cool!

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SHINE_GET_64
06/20/23 1:14:27 PM
#227:


more rumors of Jazz offering their two picks (9th and 16th) for Pistons 5th

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NBIceman
06/20/23 1:53:52 PM
#228:


SHINE_GET_64 posted...
more rumors of Jazz offering their two picks (9th and 16th) for Pistons 5th
Which would make sense. Detroit's been linked most to Whitmore, Ausar, Hendricks, and Walker, and one of them will be there at 9.

Love to see the rumors of the Spurs trading for a second lottery pick gaining steam, too.

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Shattered
06/21/23 12:07:34 PM
#229:


Need the draft to be here. So tired of arguing with Magic fans over how much ridiculous overpay they want to do to move up from 6 to 3.

Latest argument was they wanted to offer 6, 11, 36, future 1st, WCJ, Cole, Isaac for 3 + Nurkic. And somehow I'm the bad guy for saying that is such a ridiculous overpay. I asked them what is WCJ worth in isolation and they said probably a top 10 pick and they still don't understand how it's an overpay

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Emeraldegg
06/21/23 12:33:47 PM
#230:


all 3 of those guys are probably worth at least a 1st so they're saying 6 1st round picks at minimum for moving up 3 spots, lol

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Shattered
06/21/23 12:49:55 PM
#231:


Yeah, WCJ is worth a top 10 pick for sure. Like if we were offered 5 or 7 for him, I likely say no.

Cole is worth like a mid-late 1st.

Isaac's mileage will vary. Could be worth a 1st, could be worth nothing due to severe injury concerns. His contract has heavy contract protections though on non guaranteed money so very easy to get out from if he does get hurt (could stretch waive his entire deal for 1.65m a year for 5 years)

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NBIceman
06/21/23 12:58:31 PM
#232:


Y'all should just trade that #11 to the Spurs for future picks so you don't have to worry about all this stuff.

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changmas
06/21/23 12:59:25 PM
#233:


No way anyone is giving up a 1st round pick for Isaac anymore. Hes spent substantially more time being a conservative grifter with Candace Owens than being a basketball player over the past 3 years and you have basically no assurances that hell ever be able to put together a full healthy season ever again

the other two Ill grant though i think there arent very many teams who would offer a first for Cole Anthony but maybe a rebuilding team would

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Shattered
06/21/23 1:15:28 PM
#234:


NBIceman posted...
Y'all should just trade that #11 to the Spurs for future picks so you don't have to worry about all this stuff.

Sure, if we can give you some extra picks and get Vassell lol

This is Scoot's shot chart in the G-league which is why I'm incredibly wary about giving up a massive package for him.

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Shattered
06/21/23 1:20:28 PM
#235:


changmas posted...
No way anyone is giving up a 1st round pick for Isaac anymore. Hes spent substantially more time being a conservative grifter with Candace Owens than being a basketball player over the past 3 years and you have basically no assurances that hell ever be able to put together a full healthy season ever again

the other two Ill grant though i think there arent very many teams who would offer a first for Cole Anthony but maybe a rebuilding team would

Yeah, Isaac is probably worth more to the Magic than anyone else at this point. Unless he was needed for salary matching purposes in a trade.

I would have said Cole wasn't worth anything at all until the turn of the year. But then he went and averaged 14.2 on 48.8 FG% / 40.9% from 3 on mostly self created stuff for the second half of the season. And that player is a valuable NBA level player.
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NBIceman
06/21/23 1:21:55 PM
#236:


Sure, if we can give you some extra picks and get Vassell lol
Think you might be overvaluing the #11 pick when OKC got it for three bad futures last year.

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Shattered
06/21/23 1:37:23 PM
#237:


Well yeah, that's why I said extra picks. I know it's highly unrealistic for you to trade away Vassell.

Magic may end up trading away the 11 pick with how the front office has been speaking but it's hard to ever know what they are going to do.

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Shattered
06/21/23 3:41:58 PM
#238:


Apparently the cost of the 11 pick from the Magic would be a veteran wing shooter (and presumably whatever other draft comp to even it out). That's what other front offices have told people anyway
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NBIceman
06/21/23 3:58:29 PM
#239:


There a source on that? Because I've been pushing the idea of McDermott + picks basically since the Spurs won the lottery.

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Shattered
06/21/23 4:03:53 PM
#240:


This is where it came from

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NBIceman
06/21/23 4:07:27 PM
#241:


Cheers.

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LeonhartFour
06/21/23 5:51:48 PM
#242:


The Celtics are working out a deal to acquire Porzingis from the Wizards

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colliding
06/21/23 5:54:18 PM
#243:


LeonhartFour posted...
The Celtics are working out a deal to acquire Porzingis from the Wizards

can't wait for the simmons take

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SeabassDebeste
06/21/23 6:00:08 PM
#244:


back off grant-stealers! we're gonna need his body for depth with 38yo al, rob, and porzingis up front...

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SeabassDebeste
06/21/23 6:34:44 PM
#245:


spoke too soon lmao apparently we're giving up grant now, which makes zero sense to me

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Shattered
06/21/23 10:21:10 PM
#246:


Info dump from a guy in a basketball chat who has Raptors intel and has been reliable in the past

Feel like everyone is just making up Raptors rumors. From what Im gathering. Portland wants OG, Toronto wants to trade Siakam but no one is willing to trade anything of value for pascal

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Shattered
06/21/23 10:24:43 PM
#247:


Oh.

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LeonhartFour
06/21/23 10:26:19 PM
#248:


colliding posted...
can't wait for the simmons take

https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/1671593044393758725

looks like he'll make a full recovery now that the deal has fallen apart though

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SeabassDebeste
06/21/23 10:26:58 PM
#249:


unfortunate. was starting to get a bad feeling when it didn't coalesce hours and hours after the leak.

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Emeraldegg
06/21/23 10:37:39 PM
#250:


https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1671707757467107328?s=46&t=8iNG5UVdfntZXEYAdUjFHQ

deal not dead yet

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