Board 8 > Super Smash Bros. Mafia - Topic 9: Full-Force Neutral Attack

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Hmmm

If plum is scum with Ulti, he would have known not to claim there was a roleblock. Considering items are limited, that could make sense as I don't think we've had any other hard hitting power claims

Obellisk posted...

Because I've lost all confidence in being able to read anyone this game. It seems all I'm good at doing is playing devils advocate at lynch time and being right.

also that didnt stop you from shooting death >_>

Sheep full claim please and ty

MZero posted...

also that didnt stop you from shooting death >_>

yeah well, I still had a little confidence after that reread that Death was totally scum. And I still feel bad about it.

However flipping death should have stopped the lynching of Lea. sure she didn't help herself but that claim as uncountered protection should have been left alive.

sheep claiming some unexplained protection role now is extremely lynchable.

Anyway mzero is probably scum how unfortunate

I do think slow doctor and bg is a bit light on protection though

SirChris posted...

Anyway mzero is probably scum how unfortunate

Wat

Just wanted your reaction tbh lol

Obellisk posted... what type of protection is [sheep] trying to claim?

Sorry, not full claiming. I can prevent a kill on someone else by taking a night action. Like I said, Scum can play around it if they know what it is exactly, and we don't really gain anything by me revealing it entirely. If you're gonna lynch me over that then so be it, but I don't think the full role is enough to convince anyone who wants to do so anyway so I'd rather keep it hidden and make Scum take risks on future nights.

Do you get a choice over which actions you take which night, or is the trophy you get that night pre-set, SBell?

I'm fairly SBell can only be Scum if there's 4 scum (which I seriously doubt with how powerful Town seems), since I don't think there's a scum extra kill in a five scum game. That said, I think that does mean one of Plum and Cody is probably Scum? There's a hell of a lot of scanning here.

Sbell is scum. Okay that clears that up.

There are so many problems with sbells claim.

Take it up with Kirby.

I'd love to hear the problems with my claim.

please don't stop.

like what is scum gaining by changing that vig claim at a likely Mylo situation?

I don't really see a problem, Corrik. Walk me through it.

Also, ISO is underway, MZero feels way too high energy D1, did a bunch of good stuff with Marth and just seemed to be trying hard to solve stuff. If this is scuMzero then he's had a massive shift in tone and effort very recently.

Can I get a count of who thinks ulti is town atm

I'm feeling good about Ulti as Town

Also not getting much more from MZero other than a wish this game had like three less topics. I'm not touching that lynch with a bargepole while Crescent/Chang/Corrik are still alive. SBell and Ulti are now looking pretty strongly paired with their claims so last scum is probably just Cody with an outside chance of Plum

Just want to state for the record that I am pretty openly confused about this game and who the scum are so when I inevitably get this wrong don't be too mad tbh

I am totally lost in space and that's with the free space of joyrock that I forced through day 2

Obellisk posted...

I'd love to hear the problems with my claim.

please don't stop.

A. You said IT repeatedly for your actions like they were RNG and not chosen as targets by you.

Nope.

B. When someone said why didn't you kill plum night 3, you said you didn't because you are getting stuff wrong and decided not to basically. Which implies night 3 you could have shot plum and had another shot.

Nope.

C. You didn't say what your options were openly for night 2 and night 3. You just said you had options night 1.

Nope.

D. You now have an excuse to move multiple nights and didn't disclose the track night 1 which was relevant as far as tracker backup and watcher claims.

Nope.

SirChris posted...

Can I get a count of who thinks ulti is town atm

Everyone with 2 thumbs.

Corrik7 posted...

Everyone with 2 thumbs.

Oh no what happened to mzero's hands

If SBell is Scum and Ulti is Town, what happened to Plum last night, Corrik? Or is Plum also scum?

E. I pointed out how you couldn't be a vig because the game could end by the end of day 2 if there is 4 scum. Your claim has magically changed so that you couldn't have shot night 1 now.

Also didn't someone ask why you didn't shoot night 1 and you answered them out of this claim territory? You also, conveniently the night after a bunch of rolecops probably went out and identified the doctor, shot the doctor.

Sheep007 posted...

If SBell is Scum and Ulti is Town, what happened to Plum last night, Corrik? Or is Plum also scum?

Ultis role isn't what he is saying it is or they have a way around it. It's really just that simple. Ultis role is gamebreaking in current explanation unless there is a way around it.

ok i see were claiming here so lemme get this in before work

Zelda, Hyrules Wise Princess, BLUE Team Numerical Psychic

Each night I passively see the number of people who visited me. once per game i can choose a night and learn the name of the person who visits me first (highest prio action)

n1 0 visits
n2 1 visit (and i had used my one shot to learn the name, it was indeed chris who visited himself with the goldeen)
n3 0 visits

woohoo fun nobody ever visits me :(

and despite Zelda literally having magic powers like telepathy, my ability flavor comes from her having encountered a defective motion-sensored bomb salesman and being smart enough to find a unique use for them where others would not (Literally what the hell kirby). Each night she sets up defective motion-sensored bombs and then counts how many were triggered the next morning to see how many people visited. apparently the motion sensor part works but not the explosion part. Once per game she can set up the real explosive one but all it does is make a small explosion so i can wake up and see the face of the person visiting me while they run away

Corrik7 posted...

A. You said IT repeatedly for your actions like they were RNG and not chosen as targets by you.

Nope.

I'm not doing it. the trophy is. I pick the targets.

Corrik7 posted...

B. When someone said why didn't you kill plum night 3, you said you didn't because you are getting stuff wrong and decided not to basically. Which implies night 3 you could have shot plum and had another shot.

Nope.

I was asked why I didn't shoot plum night 2 instead of death. not night 3.

Corrik7 posted...

C. You didn't say what your options were openly for night 2 and night 3. You just said you had options night 1.

Nope.

Correct, i didn't say what other options might have existed elsewhere. Very good.

Corrik7 posted...

D. You now have an excuse to move multiple nights and didn't disclose the track night 1 which was relevant as far as tracker backup and watcher claims.

Nope.

Yes I felt it was very relevant. but since Cody claimed a backup track and no one claimed anything else against him and I knew he did nothing based on my track night 1 I decided that it wasn't worth mentioning. I've been riding plum as a liar for days. I've also been saying we have too much investigative roles FOR DAYS.

Odds on Corrik seething in scumchat right now about how town is overpowered after mine and SBell's claims?

As much as I wanted cody to be scum with Chris after my day 1 reread, the track showing him go nowhere sorta cleared that up. Night 1 I'd expect if scum, cody would have been used to send in some type of action.

I want the dead to help me lol

[6] Marth - (Chris), (Lea), (Ulti), Cody, (Ulti), Lea, Death, Ulti, Peaf, Joyrock
[4] Joyrock - (Chris), Marth, SBell, Crescent, Chang
[2] Crescent - (Marth), Chris, Wallz
[1] Red - (Peaf), (Chris), (Ulti), (Lea), (Corrik), Corrik, (Lea)

Lean scum, town, town, town, town, lean town
Lean scum, town, neutral, town
Neutral, town
Lean town

Peaf what about this got you killed buddy

He was wrong about joyrock and he only expressed one other scum read. Hm.

Cop
Tracker
Watcher
Summoner with a 1-use Watch or Track (I got to pick which one was used)
Motion Detector plus extra
Backup 1shot

Is that all the investigative roles claimed or am I missing one?

What would Mr peaf think of Marth flipping town.

Interestingly it was all town voting crescent day 1. Hrm.

SirChris posted...

Interestingly it was all town voting crescent day 1. Hrm.

still holding my breath.

Peaf had crescent as neutral, and walls last wall post noted he thought crescent was in their scum meta. Wall is wet behind the ears but he has a good head on his shoulders.

Obellisk posted...

still holding my breath.

For?

I am definitely not a motion detector but good try

changmas posted...

I am definitely not a motion detector but good try

I mean. that's sorta hiw it reads. you are told when there is motion on you.

Obellisk posted...

I mean. that's sorta hiw it reads. you are told when there is motion on you.

Sbell that's called a nerfed psychic

Tomato /Tomato

No one says one of those, notably.

Anyway crescent probably just scum who I am wrong about if the night kills are any indication.

not trying to misinterpret the role, just making it easier to understand for us common folk.

Corrik7 posted...

E. I pointed out how you couldn't be a vig because the game could end by the end of day 2 if there is 4 scum. Your claim has magically changed so that you couldn't have shot night 1 now.

Also didn't someone ask why you didn't shoot night 1 and you answered them out of this claim territory? You also, conveniently the night after a bunch of rolecops probably went out and identified the doctor, shot the doctor.

I could have shot night 1. I chose not to.

Cody not going anywhere n1 is probably clearing so cody/sbell has to be the team for Cody to be scum imo

I guess Cody could be a ninja but probably claims something passive if that were the case

SirChris posted...

I guess Cody could be a ninja but probably claims something passive if that were the case

Can a ninja be targeted for a fish?

MZero posted...

Wat

you sneaky little devil

Obellisk posted...

Can a ninja be targeted for a fish?

Ninja just means they can't be tracked or watched.

[7] Joyrock - (Ulti), (Chris), (Chris), Ulti, Chris, Death, (Lea), Cody, Lea, Chang, Corrik
[3] Ulti - (Chris), MZero, Wallz, (SBell), Ctes, (Chris),(Death), (Chris), (Chris), (Cody)
[1] Chris - Red, (Ulti), (Lea), (SBell)
[1] Lea - (Ulti), (Plum), (Corrik), (Chang), Plum, (Corrik), (Ulti), (Chris)
[1] Red - (Ulti), (Lea), (Chris), (Chris), (Joyrock), (Chris), Joyrock, (Ulti), (Cody), (Corrik), (Plum)
[0] Crescent - (Lea)
[0] Cody- (SBell), (Chris), (Chang), (Joyrock)
[0] Plum - (Ulti)
[0] Wallz - (Ulti)
[0] Corrik - (Chris)

Starting to think if ulti is town scum was just letting town be wrong day 2 until suddenly town wasn't wrong tbh

Obellisk posted...

I could have shot night 1. I chose not to.

You just said your options were a track or watch night 1.

Sbell is scum. So is sheep. I've heard enough of this nonsense.

Changs claimed role is only with existing information in the game.

And Chris you would have to quite a questionable scum team if Crescent is being allowed to dictate the kills, especially just based on anyone who suspects her.

So what team would fit that mold?

Joyrock, Sbell, Chang. ????, Crescent?

Their is no way I could see red letting Crescent dictate the actions personally. Nor ulti or you or me or etc.