Board 8 > Super Smash Bros. Mafia - Topic 9: Full-Force Neutral Attack

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Player List
1. changmas (Zelda)
2. SirChris (Hero)
3. Cody11533 (Rosalina & Luma)
4. Corrik7 (Samus)
5. Crescent-Moon (Ike)
6. Lea (Lucina)
7. MZero (Joker)
8. Obellisk (Sora)
9. Masterplum (Daisy)
10. Sheep007 (Lucario)
11. UltimaterializerX (Peach)
12. wallmasterz (Mario)

KO'd
LD1 - UnderUrMattress (Donkey Kong) - BLUE TEAM Tracker
KN1 - PeaceFrog (Kirby) - BLUE TEAM 1-Shot Gunsmith
LD2 - RuneterranSnap (Little Mac) - RED TEAM Godfather (Used: 1x Role Cop)
KN2 - ctesjbuvf (Jigglypuff) - BLUE TEAM Cop
KN2 - htaeD (Min Min) - BLUE TEAM Slow Doctor

With 12 players, it takes 7 votes to lynch. Day ends on Sunday at 7 PM EDT, approximately 18 hours from now.

I re-read d1 since I was on a trip and not able to pay super close attention.

sbell was consistent in saying he didnt approve of the Marth lynch. Sbell was also the second person to vote joyrock. Killing death is rough but based on d1, sbell looks really good.

chang has been questionable. He seemed to hedge his bets d1. In one post he says something like Im ok with Marth being the lynch even though slightly lean town on Marth and Chang was the 4th vote on joyrock when it was 6-3 Marth. Before chang dropped his vote, Chang said to joyrock why do you feel like you cant influence the vote? Wall had all these votes on him and with a single post all but one person unvoted him then joyrock was like nah I cant change anything and Chang went noooope and voted joyrock.

long story short sbell drew lines in the sand d1 and had the better joyrock vote, Chang was wishy washy and somewhat noncommittal. Chang also said they were fine with Marth being lynched despite thinking Marth was probably town. Crescent was also adamant about not liking joyrock but I think thats consistent with her scum game if a teammate is laying an egg.

Chris probably actually is indy, which means I'll have choice words with Kirby after the game regarding what went on day 2.

There is 0.0% chance at all that if all town alive have fish that a random scum dies. And it would have to be a random scum because if not then the scum might have died prior and made it worthless.

Also, that also doesn't account for whether Chris has already given one to scum. It also doesn't account for that Chris can't give one to himself. Also, it would confirm everyone in the game town that was town.

Chris role is even more of a lie than Ultis which is impressive. So, Chris is lying.

Pair that with Chris assuming scum would be 4 and not 5 (when 4 is below 25-33% thresholds), Chris is indy.

So that's some shit. Claim your real role, Chris.

No

...and I'm not trying to out any possible still existing protection (and I acknowledge leas less than thrilling attempt to defend herself) but does an every other day Doc make sense with Scum Kill, My Shot and a possible DayVig shot that could have been handed out? (not that protection can prevent a dayvig necessarily).

Is it so wild of a thought that the game has. bodyguard?

Well, anyone with a semblance of mafia knows you are lying about your role. I hope it's just because scum Chang asked and you wanted to throw him off. I'm not that dumb though. If you weren't confirmed not scum, I'd be burying you right now. Still pretty bs if you are indy and you got through that unscathed also, but I digress.

Indy occultfish. if at any point in the game everyone has a fish, you win.

Then lynch me idc

Basically I am not going to sit here arguing my role pm with you. If anyone has anything else to discuss its fine but if you want to say I am lying about my role then I won't put up a fight tbh I will just ignore you

SirChris posted...

Basically I am not going to sit here arguing my role pm with you. If anyone has anything else to discuss its fine but if you want to say I am lying about my role then I won't put up a fight tbh I will just ignore you

Willfully not like the gamefaqs feature

SirChris posted...

No

No what? No you wont claim your real role?

Obellisk posted...

Indy occultfish. if at any point in the game everyone has a fish, you win.

It ironically is probably an indy arsonist. For Chris to have "all town alive have a fish" it means he himself couldn't be alive. It's broken logic.

He needs everyone alive to have a fish before he unleashes it. I guarantee you. Cody and whoever confirm. It does NOT tell you who gives you a fish. Chris offered it up thinking if he did people would be more amenable to keeping him alive.

wallmasterz posted...

No what? No you wont claim your real role?

The No was to the entire post. I have already full claimed

Anyway just to clarify I myself start with a fish and it's all alive players not just town.

Anyways, not diverting off of Lea for this. Chris is either town lying about his role or Indy. Either way, we will get to that bridge tomorrow.

@Cody11533

Confirm you are not told who gave you the fish please.

Corrik7 posted...

Chris probably actually is indy, which means I'll have choice words with Kirby after the game regarding what went on day 2.

There is 0.0% chance at all that if all town alive have fish that a random scum dies. And it would have to be a random scum because if not then the scum might have died prior and made it worthless.

Also, that also doesn't account for whether Chris has already given one to scum. It also doesn't account for that Chris can't give one to himself. Also, it would confirm everyone in the game town that was town.

Chris role is even more of a lie than Ultis which is impressive. So, Chris is lying.

Pair that with Chris assuming scum would be 4 and not 5 (when 4 is below 25-33% thresholds), Chris is indy.

So that's some shit. Claim your real role, Chris.

Deciding whether to modkill or not based on alignment is bad hosting

Also not to argue with mafia expert corrik but arsonists do not typically inform their victims of their status

MZero posted...

Deciding whether to modkill or not based on alignment is bad hosting

The fact he would have absolutely been if scum this game and he wasn't shows this happened. And mods tend to do this on the regular.

But, we aren't here to discuss that.

SirChris posted...

Also not to argue with mafia expert corrik but arsonists do not typically inform their victims of their status

Arsonists don't generally give out confirmable completely harmless I swear fish.

Corrik7 posted...

Arsonists don't generally give out confirmable completely harmless I swear fish.

Yes. That is correct. They do not do this.

So Chris being indy means there isn't 5 scum.

4 scum...

Here is the problem with 4 scum though.

Lynch scum day 1. Shoot scum night 1 with vig. Lynch scum day 2 and peaf gunsmith scum day 2.

Scum is dead before the 2nd day ends with 1 night phase.

= /

The game was originally 15 so bumping it up to 17 by adding a 5th scum feels super swing with two extra shots flying around. Mine is technically a third but is unusual to see happen as it's more of a gimmick than actual power

Hmmmm....

If it is 5 sbell being scum is insane to give scum 5/17 and kp

It's kinda hard to view sbell as town if scum is 4. The game could end almost instantly.

Corrik7 posted...

It's kinda hard to view sbell as town if scum is 4. The game could end almost instantly.

4 with extra kp in 17 makes sense yeah

Also I did say none of you would believe the claim so I can't exactly blame any of you when what I predicted came to pass

Assuming you are town, what if the extra kill wasn't scum but town's that scum acquired???

Cody claimed he goes to the dead for 1 use abilities right.

Hmmmm...

This requires a lot of scum being very truthful about what they are doing though at the core. Hmmm idk. Cody knew where Lea went though supposedly.

Aight nevermind that doesn't work.

Corrik almost every game: "this role couldn't exist, it simply isn't possible within the confines of the game"

Someone flips and the role is real: "ah, well, nevertheless it shouldn't exist!!1!!"

Corrik7 posted...

Assuming you are town, what if the extra kill wasn't scum but town's that scum acquired???

Cody claimed he goes to the dead for 1 use abilities right.

Hmmmm...

This requires a lot of scum being very truthful about what they are doing though at the core. Hmmm idk. Cody knew where Lea went though supposedly.

Aight nevermind that doesn't work.

The gunsmith was a day shot too

My concern is we are missing peaf's gunsmith which we should probably ponder peaf's town list day 1 hard just in case tomorrow. He maybe holstered but shouldn't assume that

If 4 scum, sbell being town is basically impossible since we know peaf was town.

But if 4 scum, Chris is indy so does that change things... hmmmm. You could eliminate scum in 2 days, but the indy remains so game isn't over. Hmmm. Then again what if scum kills the indy night 1 with the night kill. Game still ends day 2.

Yeah no, sbell can't be town if 4 scum regardless if indy or not.

Corrik I would just like to point out that I managed to avoid being detected as a serial killer for 10 game days and win the last time I was indy

I am pretty sure I don't need to claim fish occultist lol

SirChris posted...

Corrik I would just like to point out that I managed to avoid being detected as a serial killer for 10 game days and win the last time I was indy

I am pretty sure I don't need to claim fish occultist lol

Wifom

now I'm definitely scum?

this has taken a turn

Obellisk posted...

now I'm definitely scum?

this has taken a turn

If 4 scum, to be fair. Not if 5.

Corrik7 posted...

Wifom

No

The play you are suggesting is below my skill floor.

Search your feelings you lnoe it to be true

Corrik7 posted...

If 4 scum, to be fair. Not if 5.

well I'll hold my breath for 5 then.

The good thing is when Lea flips scum.

The poe is
Sheep, Crescent, Chang, Sbell.

I'm assuming it's Sheep Crescent and Chang as the final 3. But if it's just final 2, the mislynch there won't hurt to narrow it down to Sbell.

SirChris posted...

No

The play you are suggesting is below my skill floor.

Search your feelings you lnoe it to be true

I think secretly you are nodding your head that I am on to you and tipping your fedora.

Side note: Crescent hasn't done shit this game and usually she is telling us how much she has to carry us and is so much better than us while sucking up to Chris.

Corrik7 posted...

Side note: Crescent hasn't done shit this game and usually she is telling us how much she has to carry us and is so much better than us while sucking up to Chris.

don't think that's alignment indicative here i think it's related to the big wall she posted on day about IRL stuff

well I've been wrong about everything except not lynching Marth. I wouldn't even say I was right about joyrock because I was only on him day 1 to try to stop the Marth lynch.

anyways not sure how much i'll be around for the next 6 hours so

##Vote: Lea

Corrik7 posted...

@Cody11533

Confirm you are not told who gave you the fish please.

I can confirm I was not told who gave me the fish, it just said I received a Goldeen.

Also hi Sheep.

Cody11533 posted...

I can confirm I was not told who gave me the fish, it just said I received a Goldeen.

Shocked Pikachu face

Are you doubting that the Goldeen came from Chris, or just what the fish may do?

Cody11533 posted...

Are you doubting that the Goldeen came from Chris, or just what the fish may do?

I think it is highly possible Chris is an independent. Those fish are not harmless. And that he didn't have to reveal he was giving them out, but did so in fact to obfuscate his role as being town and fun, quirky, gimmicky instead of the actual sinister nature it is.

Basically, I believe he is dousing you all in oil and will light everyone on fire when the time is right to win. The oil is just you holding a goldeen in this case.

But, I'm not 100% on it. But, it does line up with Chris immediately assuming scum was a 4 man team despite the fact that the game requires 5 to be 25-33% for the scum team which is normal.

Why would you hold the goldeen it's a fish