Board 8 > Super Smash Bros. Mafia - Topic 9: Full-Force Neutral Attack

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This is a series of posts spanning only 9 minutes starting Post 5.263

So one of the only couple of times Joyrock was live posting for ten minutes in topic, where he tested Cody's claim then immediately went back to his previous vote.

I dunno, I feel like using Joyrock's alignment as a defense of Cody is a really weak defense. Obviously we should make case for why Cody is scum, and not for why Cody can or can't be town. I just think if you're ruling Cody out based on Joyrock, then I'm not sure I buy that.

What was the thing that made Cody feel coached?

I am also not worried because Cody has a fish that will eat him eventually seeing as none of my fish people are dead.

Pretty sure scum Cody just backs up the gun and shoots a villager don't you

i mean i don't think it's wholly unreasonable or impossible for cody to be scum with a tracker action and lea to be telling the truth, i just don't see ample enough evidence to make it more probable than lea being scum and we probably need the info too much not to make this lynch

on the bright side lea, you're at the beach and can pay no more heed to our miserable lot. enjoy!

##Vote: Lea

Also if I publicly vocalize some suspicion toward you Chris, do you think it will help you survive night 1?

Also for the record I do lean neutral at best on Chris right now.

I still lean towards Red being my ideal lynch for the day at this point. I've liked Lea enough to not want to go after her at this point.

Why

what has Chris done to make you think he is scum

I'm still not sold on Marth, and he very strongly moved attention off him. He also downplayed Marth's reads at the end of topic 1 that included himself in "Solid Town" alone, when Marth never really backed down from those reads from what I saw.

In my hazy state the only thing Ive really been able to track is the line chris is walking down regarding his views on red. Everything else has been peripheral

So I was surprised that Cody not only wasnt following it but seemed to have missed it entirely

##Vote:Cody

Idk I didnt like him relying on this marth stuff. Feels superficial

Also Chris, since I seem to be mostly live posting with you at the moment, if I didn't come in and focus on rereading Plum and looking through Cody stuff, where would you have liked to solve toward?

What seems the most interesting after Lea's flip?

I want Sbell to explain how he considered shooting me N2

Because that seems like a slip, because scum absolutely would have considered shooting me N2.

His arguments against me seem to stem from me watching Chris, but his claim of considering shooting me N2 contradict that

Who would you watch Sbell?

Do you not think after yesterday it is likely nobody visits chris? Are you really thinking it is a nonsensical play?

correct. I think scum doesn't touch Chris after day 2.

I think scum males a poor play in using a watch item on Chris in hopes to find the doc.

I also think Town Plum comes in with a less defensive posture.

Why would scum not touch chris after day 2. Did he not look towny after that day?

He is confirmed town. They would assume any watches or saves would be on Chris imo.

i expected chris to die last night tbh im on plum's side here

which is why Plum coming in with a watch on Obv town chris is just the worst way for Plum to use that power night 2.
And it only makes sense from a scum standpoint.

Oh shoot, I forgot to mention this in my opening post, but I have a super hectic schedule tomorrow on Tuesday with FFXIV raid stuff since the new raid tier is dropping, and I will likely be very very not here for most of the day/night. Just wanted to get that out there before tomorrow in case anyone asks about my activity level.

All the more important if anyone wants me to look at specific interactions or people tonight, I should have a lot of time to review stuff.

Answer Chris as well please, as that has to do with my prior question to you.

I'm sorry, I meant for SBell to answer your question, not for you to answer me, lol. But thanks for the input. I am doing a Red ISO right now and will post notes in a bit.

Who claimed backup?

So it's Cody.

##Vote: Cody

Finally got a scan with actual information. The "backup" role is a mafia role and it's called resurrect.

I'll support that.

##Vote: Cody

Again I understand some people may say "scum cody can't win in endgame because fish" but I don't want to repeat the same mistakes as last game.

Let me claim my actual role, full honesty, yet again.

Town clairvoyant. At the end of each DAY PHASE, I get a beetle in my inventory. I can choose to send it out to scout the scum team. I pick one of the 3 priorities (high, normal, low). I can do this for each beetle if I have multiple. If it sees an item used, I see it. If it does NOT see an item used, an item the scum team used is randomly selected from other priorities. More on this in a second.

On night 1, I did nothing. Every single thing I discussed with Chris yesterday was absolute bullshit. If you want to kill me for that, I understand and I won't argue. I melted down a little because I think my role is neat and wanted to stay alive. I think that's a little defensible, but hey.

On night 2, I had 2 beetles. I sent both out, one high and one normal. The "high" beetle returned a Deku Nut, and I was told what it did. Target stunned, but no passive abilities are stopped. This is almost assuredly telling me that Lea is their roleblocker so we kill her today and move on.

The normal beetle returned nothing. Zero. No items. This means scum has a ninja something-or-other (possible given watchers and trackers and me going around) or only used the Deku Nut last night.

This leads to a lot of easy conclusions. Unless Goldeens are ninja fish, Chris is confirmed town and if he's scum we lynch Kirby. Who even cares. SBell is confirmed town.

Cody, MZero, Wallz, and Plum are like 99% confirmed town unless scum is self targeting to trick us. Possible, but we don't consider that today. Occulam's Razor.

If you guys stop the BS and just listen to me and Corrik, the POE becomes impossible to lose from -- Chang, Corrik, Crescent, Lea, and Red (sorry Corrik, just being thorough!).

Lynch Lea -> Crescent -> Red -> Chang in that order and we almost assuredly win. If you have to kill me to confirm my role and this lynch order, I won't argue with anyone about it anymore. Just do it tomorrow after Roleblocker Lea dies so town power can finish things off.

Listen to the correct POE and learn from last game.

Starscream

Also did Cody explain why he named his Chris? Because I wasn't told where it came from

Finally got a scan with actual information. The "backup" role is a mafia role and it's called resurrect.

Cody you have been accused of being scum. How do you plead?